Even More SNP Nonsense

[Doogz]

1 hour ago, jambo lodge said:

Was yesterday's stunt by the SNP MP's a deliberate attempt to bury bad news about how the Scottish Government has been  blocking Freedom of Information requests. The Herald suggest that Ministers are running a twin track approach delaying or stopping requests from journalists likely to cause embarrassment to the government whilst releasing information to those who happen to be onside. The control freakery of the Murrells

 

That is a very interesting point particularly when you consider:

Q1: Which powers currently with Holyrood are being moved to Westminster as part of their "Brexit Power Grab"?
A1: None, these powers are currently with Brussels.

 

Q2: Will the powers moving from Brussels to Westminster remain there?
A2: That isn't the plan. The plan is for the powers to transition to the Devolved governments over a period of time.
Westminster have offered a "sunset clause" time limit on these powers which would put a 2-year time limit on the power to make new regulations and a 5-year limit on the regulations.
Labour have even proposed reducing the "sunset clause" to a total of 3 years.

 

Q3: If Scotland gains independence how do the SNP want Scotland to use these powers on-going?
A3: They don't - they want Scotland to re-join the E.U. which means these powers will transfer back to Brussels.

 

Q4: So ,why are the SNP making such a song & dance around powers that they don't currently have and would, if given the opportunity, pass back to Brussels?
A4: Attempting to bury bad news seems a fairly reasonable suggestion.

[Don Dan]

7 minutes ago, Doogz said:

 

That is a very interesting point particularly when you consider:

Q1: Which powers currently with Holyrood are being moved to Westminster as part of their "Brexit Power Grab"?
A1: None, these powers are currently with Brussels.

 

Q2: Will the powers moving from Brussels to Westminster remain there?
A2: That isn't the plan. The plan is for the powers to transition to the Devolved governments over a period of time.
Westminster have offered a "sunset clause" time limit on these powers which would put a 2-year time limit on the power to make new regulations and a 5-year limit on the regulations.
Labour have even proposed reducing the "sunset clause" to a total of 3 years.

 

Q3: If Scotland gains independence how do the SNP want Scotland to use these powers on-going?
A3: They don't - they want Scotland to re-join the E.U. which means these powers will transfer back to Brussels.

 

Q4: So ,why are the SNP making such a song & dance around powers that they don't currently have and would, if given the opportunity, pass back to Brussels?
A4: Attempting to bury bad news seems a fairly reasonable suggestion.

 

Exactly. If you watched the theatre and SNP actors yesterday it’s plain it was a coordinated stunt. Your post highlights some of the contradictions and hypocrisy of the SNPs push for independence. 

[Space Mackerel]

28 minutes ago, Doogz said:

 

That is a very interesting point particularly when you consider:

Q1: Which powers currently with Holyrood are being moved to Westminster as part of their "Brexit Power Grab"?
A1: None, these powers are currently with Brussels.

 

Q2: Will the powers moving from Brussels to Westminster remain there?
A2: That isn't the plan. The plan is for the powers to transition to the Devolved governments over a period of time.
Westminster have offered a "sunset clause" time limit on these powers which would put a 2-year time limit on the power to make new regulations and a 5-year limit on the regulations.
Labour have even proposed reducing the "sunset clause" to a total of 3 years.

 

Q3: If Scotland gains independence how do the SNP want Scotland to use these powers on-going?
A3: They don't - they want Scotland to re-join the E.U. which means these powers will transfer back to Brussels.

 

Q4: So ,why are the SNP making such a song & dance around powers that they don't currently have and would, if given the opportunity, pass back to Brussels?
A4: Attempting to bury bad news seems a fairly reasonable suggestion.

 

Thought you were trying to convince yourself to vote Yes as you first stated on this thread?

 

Have you been telling little porkies Doogz?

[Hasselhoff]

1 hour ago, Space Mackerel said:

 

I lifted this

 

I'm not sure if Ali is a lad or lassie but it definitely has Nazi tendencies, he's got a Union flag and picture of Liz the German in his avatar. 

 

 

Nationalists have so little to do with their time and can't keep their mind off the subject of independence, there is every chance this is a fake account. Picking British symbols and then saying something racist, pass to everyone's favourite gutter media analyst and it's on his website in no time. 

 

The owner of a B&B said something negative about the SNP walkout yesterday, in no time he was receiving 1 star reviews for his business from people saying that he was racist towards Scottish people etc. 

 

 

 

[Hasselhoff]

2 hours ago, Space Mackerel said:

 

Current SNP links to Nazism please? 

Should I post Prince Harry playing Nazis too not so long ago too? 

 

As for someone asking for links between the SNP and the Nazis:

 

"Propaganda tries to force a doctrine on the whole people... Propaganda works on the general public from the standpoint of an idea and makes them ripe for the victory of this idea." Adolf Hitler wrote these words in his book Mein Kampf (1926), in which he first advocated the use of propaganda to spread the ideals of National Socialism

 

SNP want to try and make people feel cheated, second class citizens, hard done by etc. in order to make them ripe for victory. 

 

"The Nazi regime used propaganda effectively to mobilize the German population to support its wars of conquest until the very end of the regime"

 

The introduction of the phrase "SNPBad" to idly discard any negative story about the SNP wouldn't have looked out of place in the Nazi's playbook. Just need to look at their FOI behaviour in the report yesterday to see how dodgy they are. Some of what they do is good, not denying that, but why continue with the deception in order to get indy? If they have to lie and avoid proper debate, they're hiding something. 

 

 

[Pans Jambo]

6 minutes ago, Hasselhoff said:

 

As for someone asking for links between the SNP and the Nazis:

 

"Propaganda tries to force a doctrine on the whole people... Propaganda works on the general public from the standpoint of an idea and makes them ripe for the victory of this idea." Adolf Hitler wrote these words in his book Mein Kampf (1926), in which he first advocated the use of propaganda to spread the ideals of National Socialism

 

SNP want to try and make people feel cheated, second class citizens, hard done by etc. in order to make them ripe for victory. 

 

"The Nazi regime used propaganda effectively to mobilize the German population to support its wars of conquest until the very end of the regime"

 

The introduction of the phrase "SNPBad" to idly discard any negative story about the SNP wouldn't have looked out of place in the Nazi's playbook. Just need to look at their FOI behaviour in the report yesterday to see how dodgy they are. Some of what they do is good, not denying that, but why continue with the deception in order to get indy? If they have to lie and avoid proper debate, they're hiding something. 

 

 

Aye and £300 million for our NHS plastered onto the side of a bus isnt propaganda?

 

Labour isnt working isnt propaganda?

 

Better together wasnt a bare faced lie?

 

Stay and lead? WTF was that one?

 

Brainwashing is strong in this one...

[Gorgiewave]

10 hours ago, shaun.lawson said:

 

 

Bookmarked. What's the SNP's lead after 11 years in government? 15% or so, isn't it?

 

As for what happened yesterday, I couldn't give a guff if it was staged or not. Almost everything that happens at PMQs is staged. The contempt shown towards Scotland by this government and by Brexiteers everywhere has been breathtaking. And on this forum, it seems as though some don't want Scotland to have any representation at all. It's "do as you're told, and be quiet".

 

The reality is this. The vast majority of Brexit supporters (you proudly among them) couldn't give a flying **** about Scotland. They don't want Brexit; they want Englandexit. To them, Britain is England, the UK is England. In the process, they're slowly but surely destroying the Union, and they should be ashamed.

 

Still, on a lighter note: I hope you're enjoying your young, diverse, socialist government in Spain. The good guys (and gals) always win in the end.  

 

Good luck to England at the World Cup, Shaun. Scotland, England, Wales, Northern Ireland and Gibraltar all have my support. A soft spot for Malta and Cyprus.

 

Brexit is best for everybody.

 

The new Minister of Culture has already resigned for tax evasion. It's more like a continuity government in that sense.

 

Have you seen this article, Shaun? It's worth a read.

 

https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/06/donald-trumps-north-korean-policy-succeeding/

 

Edited June 14, 2018 by Gorgiewave

[Boris]

2 hours ago, jambo lodge said:

Sadly at the moment there is no credible opposition party to vote for.

 

So that makes it ok to vote for them?  You know you abhor them but feel the opposition isn't credible, so instead you lend weight to them?

 

That's some sort of masochistic Stockholm syndrome thing you got going on there!

[jambo lodge]

8 minutes ago, Boris said:

 

So that makes it ok to vote for them?  You know you abhor them but feel the opposition isn't credible, so instead you lend weight to them?

 

That's some sort of masochistic Stockholm syndrome thing you got going on there!

Never said that but its a practical reality of where we are in the UK. As a former card carrying Liberal it saddens me to see the state of the Labour and Liberal parties.

[...a bit disco]

More power to us.

 

 

Since yesterdays 'walkout'.

[Boris]

Just now, jambo lodge said:

Never said that but its a practical reality of where we are in the UK. As a former card carrying Liberal it saddens me to see the state of the Labour and Liberal parties.

 

Apologies, that's how it came across.

 

Point I was trying to make is that credibility or not, voting for someone against the Tories is (imo) important, as they are, again IMO, the biggest threat to our country (be that Scotland or the UK) by miles.

[Thunderstruck]

34 minutes ago, Pans Jambo said:

Aye and £300 million for our NHS plastered onto the side of a bus isnt propaganda?

 

Labour isnt working isnt propaganda?

 

Better together wasnt a bare faced lie?

 

Stay and lead? WTF was that one?

 

Brainwashing is strong in this one...

 

Anyone who believes something written on a campaign bus or in a political prospectus needs his head checked. See the examples below. 

 

Hindsight is a wonderful thing so...

 

Labour wasn’t working - you may have heard of the Winter of Discontent. 

 

The post-2014 economic reality suggests that we are better together. 

 

I suggest that you focus on your own party and ask them the questions about...

 

Fracking - banned or not?

 

FoI - is that a law that applies to everyone else?

 

Local Govt - why is Scottish spending falling (fast) while English spending is growing? That might help you understand who is closing libraries. 

 

The £Trillions of oil income - where is it?

 

 

 

 

 

[jack D and coke]

51 minutes ago, Hasselhoff said:

 

 

Nationalists have so little to do with their time and can't keep their mind off the subject of independence, there is every chance this is a fake account. Picking British symbols and then saying something racist, pass to everyone's favourite gutter media analyst and it's on his website in no time. 

 

The owner of a B&B said something negative about the SNP walkout yesterday, in no time he was receiving 1 star reviews for his business from people saying that he was racist towards Scottish people etc. 

 

 

 

They said the Scots walked out and they won’t be missed. A hideously stupid thing to say on your business Twitter account and especially being so close to the border and probably getting hundreds if not thousands of Scottish guests every year. 

And cmon man don’t try make out Brit nats don’t also exercise such behaviour. It’s one of the worst traits suggesting it’s all a one way street. Brit nats are more violent than indy supporters imo and every bit as nasty as some of the idiotic nationalists up here. 

[Space Mackerel]

54 minutes ago, Hasselhoff said:

 

 

Nationalists have so little to do with their time and can't keep their mind off the subject of independence, there is every chance this is a fake account. Picking British symbols and then saying something racist, pass to everyone's favourite gutter media analyst and it's on his website in no time. 

 

The owner of a B&B said something negative about the SNP walkout yesterday, in no time he was receiving 1 star reviews for his business from people saying that he was racist towards Scottish people etc. 

 

 

 

 

I am postive there are hundreds of fake accounts playing both sides, you would have to be a fool not to believe that. Same rules apply then when its an Indy "supporter" getting the finger pointed at then? 

 

As for the B&B owner, you have to a complete and utter arsehole to link your business to your political thoughts, that'll be his lesson learned then. 

[Space Mackerel]

15 minutes ago, ...a bit disco said:

More power to us.

 

 

Since yesterdays 'walkout'.

 

 

 

Superb!! The Tory Party is the best Indy recruiting sergeant known to man! 

 

 

[Space Mackerel]

18 minutes ago, jambo lodge said:

Never said that but its a practical reality of where we are in the UK. As a former card carrying Liberal it saddens me to see the state of the Labour and Liberal parties.

 

You can thank Jo Swinson for that up here. She came out with a right clanger yesterday about putting Welsh voters first. 

Wullie wants a 2nd ref on Brexit but not on independence? 

 

 

[Thunderstruck]

1 minute ago, Space Mackerel said:

 

 

 

Superb!! The Tory Party is the best Indy recruiting sergeant known to man! 

 

 

 

Yet, with the “hated” Tories in power and the added bonus of untold mineral wealth, you failed to convince the large majority of Scots that independence was viable. 

 

Sturgeon was asking yesterday for holiday reading suggestions. This is only a pamphlet but it would be a good start:

 

https://www.robertwalters.co.uk/career-advice/how-to-resign-professionally.html

 

 

 

 

[Space Mackerel]

1 minute ago, Thunderstruck said:

 

Yet, with the “hated” Tories in power and the added bonus of untold mineral wealth, you failed to convince the large majority of Scots that independence was viable. 

 

Sturgeon was asking yesterday for holiday reading suggestions. This is only a pamphlet but it would be a good start:

 

https://www.robertwalters.co.uk/career-advice/how-to-resign-professionally.html

 

 

 

 

 

Its only halftime pal, another 45 mins to go and its technically 0-0

[Thunderstruck]

1 minute ago, Space Mackerel said:

 

Its only halftime pal, another 45 mins to go and its technically 0-0

 

Eh naw, it was 1-0 and in the words of Roy Orbison “It’s Over”. 

 

You want to blame the length of the grass - it’s about the only excuse not yet spouted by the losers. 

[jambo lodge]

13 minutes ago, Space Mackerel said:

 

You can thank Jo Swinson for that up here. She came out with a right clanger yesterday about putting Welsh voters first. 

Wullie wants a 2nd ref on Brexit but not on independence? 

 

 

Sorry Spacey but I am all for leaving that terrible unelected institution in Brussels.

[Space Mackerel]

1 minute ago, Thunderstruck said:

 

Eh naw, it was 1-0 and in the words of Roy Orbison “It’s Over”. 

 

You want to blame the length of the grass - it’s about the only excuse not yet spouted by the losers. 

 

Didn't know referendums were the best of 3, are we having VAR too?   

[Doogz]

 

1 hour ago, Space Mackerel said:

 

Thought you were trying to convince yourself to vote Yes as you first stated on this thread?

 

Have you been telling little porkies Doogz?

 

Is that you "misunderstanding" the English language again ?

I've said consistently I'm open to being persuaded around the case for independence: I just don't see anything to persuade me benefits outweigh the risks.

 

 

On ‎23‎/‎05‎/‎2018 at 23:11, Doogz said:

 

I don't necessarily want an independent Scotland - I want Scotland to be as prosperous as possible regardless of being part of a union with the rest of the UK or part of Europe- what makes you think we will be more prosperous outside the UK and how long will this take ? Do we need to be part of the EU to accomplish this?

 

So what do you think about the SNP operating a 2 tier system on FOI requests ?

Is this the sort of more open democratic society you want in an independent Scotland ?

 

[Space Mackerel]

3 minutes ago, jambo lodge said:

Sorry Spacey but I am all for leaving that terrible unelected institution in Brussels.

 

Lets be 100% honest, who actually gave a single, shiny shite about the EU before the right wing of Tory party raised its head around 2015? 

 

Answer: No one. 

[jack D and coke]

25 minutes ago, Space Mackerel said:

 

I am postive there are hundreds of fake accounts playing both sides, you would have to be a fool not to believe that. Same rules apply then when its an Indy "supporter" getting the finger pointed at then? 

 

As for the B&B owner, you have to a complete and utter arsehole to link your business to your political thoughts, that'll be his lesson learned then. 

There’s fake accounts galore  Christ this place is and was full of them from weirdo hibs fans before we went bust. Trying to get info and cause bother. There’s even fake Hearts twitter accounts stirring up shit all the time saying they hear racist chanting and shite like that. 

Youd have to be a bit of a thicky to believe all those tweets are from real indy supporters. 

[Space Mackerel]

4 minutes ago, jack D and coke said:

There’s fake accounts galore  Christ this place is and was full of them from weirdo hibs fans before we went bust. Trying to get info and cause bother. There’s even fake Hearts twitter accounts stirring up shit all the time saying they hear racist chanting and shite like that. 

Youd have to be a bit of a thicky to believe all those tweets are from real indy supporters. 

 

Looks like there’s a few fake Sevco supporters on this forum too pal ?

[...a bit disco]

35 minutes ago, Space Mackerel said:

 

 

 

Superb!! The Tory Party is the best Indy recruiting sergeant known to man! 

 

 

 

 

Shamelessly swiped from Twitter...

 

Donald Dewar:Father of Devolution

John Bercow:Father of Independence

 

 

A man's a man, for a' that...

Edited June 14, 2018 by ...a bit disco

[Pans Jambo]

39 minutes ago, Thunderstruck said:

 

Anyone who believes something written on a campaign bus or in a political prospectus needs his head checked. See the examples below. 

 

Hindsight is a wonderful thing so...

 

Labour wasn’t working - you may have heard of the Winter of Discontent. 

 

The post-2014 economic reality suggests that we are better together. 

 

I suggest that you focus on your own party and ask them the questions about...

 

Fracking - banned or not?

 

FoI - is that a law that applies to everyone else?

 

Local Govt - why is Scottish spending falling (fast) while English spending is growing? That might help you understand who is closing libraries. 

 

The £Trillions of oil income - where is it?

 

 

 

 

 

Ive been asking where all the oil trillions have went for years as well!

 

Laying off millions of heavy industry workers in the 80's

M25

M1/M6 upgrades

Channel Tunnel

Heathrow expansion

Falklands war

Jubilee line

1st bombing holiday in Iraq

NHS expansion (naw, not that one)

 

Still, it seems to be running out every year unyet they keep on pumping it and seem to continually find new fields as well.

 

Here's another slogan:

 

'It's our oil'

 

McCrone anyone?

 

& BTW, the SNP is not 'my own'party. Fed up saying that just because folk want Independence to better their country doesn't automatically make you a big SNP supporter.

Edited June 14, 2018 by Pans Jambo

[Doogz]

12 minutes ago, Space Mackerel said:

 

Lets be 100% honest

 

Sadly you're incapable of this.

 

12 minutes ago, Space Mackerel said:

who actually gave a single, shiny shite about the EU before the right wing of Tory party raised its head around 2015? 

 

Incorrect Answer: No one. 

 

FTFY:

There have been calls for a referendum on the EU off & on since the original referendum in 1975.

You may also remember it the Brexit referendum was an election promise from Cameron back in January 2013 .....

Also, the EU was maybe mentioned "once or twice" during the independence referendum back in 2014.

 

Anyhoo:

So what do you think about the SNP operating a 2 tier system on FOI requests ?

Is this the sort of more open democratic society you want in an independent Scotland ?

[Pans Jambo]

Just now, Doogz said:

So what do you think about the SNP operating a 2 tier system on FOI requests ?

Is this the sort of more open democratic society you want in an independent Scotland ?

Missed this.

 

Whats the back story here?

[Adam Murray]

2 hours ago, Doogz said:

 

That is a very interesting point particularly when you consider:

Q1: Which powers currently with Holyrood are being moved to Westminster as part of their "Brexit Power Grab"?
A1: None, these powers are currently with Brussels.

 

Q2: Will the powers moving from Brussels to Westminster remain there?
A2: That isn't the plan. The plan is for the powers to transition to the Devolved governments over a period of time.
Westminster have offered a "sunset clause" time limit on these powers which would put a 2-year time limit on the power to make new regulations and a 5-year limit on the regulations.
Labour have even proposed reducing the "sunset clause" to a total of 3 years.

 

Q3: If Scotland gains independence how do the SNP want Scotland to use these powers on-going?
A3: They don't - they want Scotland to re-join the E.U. which means these powers will transfer back to Brussels.

 

Q4: So ,why are the SNP making such a song & dance around powers that they don't currently have and would, if given the opportunity, pass back to Brussels?
A4: Attempting to bury bad news seems a fairly reasonable suggestion.

 

 

A lot of good points, which are conveniently being overlooked 

[jambo lodge]

21 minutes ago, Space Mackerel said:

 

Lets be 100% honest, who actually gave a single, shiny shite about the EU before the right wing of Tory party raised its head around 2015? 

 

Answer: No one. 

I saw through the farce that was and is the European " Project" in the 1975 vote and haven't changed my mind about it since. What I cannot understand is the SNP's ludicrous position of wanting to take power from Westminster in an independence vote and then give power back to the unelected Commission.  

[Doogz]

5 minutes ago, Pans Jambo said:

Missed this.

 

Whats the back story here?

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2018/06/13/snp-operated-secret-foi-regime-making-harder-journalists-msps/

https://www.express.co.uk/scotland/973851/Scotland-news-nicola-sturgeon-snp-foi-request-freedom-of-information-secret-scotland

http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/16287484.SNP_ministers_found_to_be_operating_secret_twin-track_FOI_regime/

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/snp-ministers-withholding-information-delaying-12701501

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/snp-special-advisers-screen-freedom-of-information-responses-5v9dkwmlw

 

 

[Adam Murray]

1 minute ago, Doogz said:

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2018/06/13/snp-operated-secret-foi-regime-making-harder-journalists-msps/

https://www.express.co.uk/scotland/973851/Scotland-news-nicola-sturgeon-snp-foi-request-freedom-of-information-secret-scotland

http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/16287484.SNP_ministers_found_to_be_operating_secret_twin-track_FOI_regime/

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/snp-ministers-withholding-information-delaying-12701501

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/snp-special-advisers-screen-freedom-of-information-responses-5v9dkwmlw

 

 

 

 

Msm Doogz c'mon, if it's not in The National, Wings over Bath or Infowars, it can't be true!

[Space Mackerel]

9 minutes ago, Pans Jambo said:

Missed this.

 

Whats the back story here?

 

Me too, I wonder where he got it though? 

 

£5 says its off The Daily Express. 

[Space Mackerel]

3 minutes ago, Adam Murray said:

 

 

Msm Doogz c'mon, if it's not in The National, Wings over Bath or Infowars, it can't be true!

 

By the way Adam, InfoWars is a far right, Trump supporting, anti Clinton, pro gun lobby, nowt to do with anything here. 

[Don Dan]

https://www.totalpolitics.com/articles/diary/nicola-sturgeon-starts-snp-conference-rare-car-crash-interview

 

Sturgeon cant remember very important numbers relating to a possible Scotland future independence cost but somehow immediately knows the rise in SNP members. It’s a good numbers day today it seems!

[Doogz]

3 minutes ago, Adam Murray said:

 

 

Msm Doogz c'mon, if it's not in The National, Wings over Bath or Infowars, it can't be true!

 

Well done you predicted Spaceys reply - don't worry though he's loaded so can easily afford to lose the fiver

[Space Mackerel]

12 minutes ago, jambo lodge said:

I saw through the farce that was and is the European " Project" in the 1975 vote and haven't changed my mind about it since. What I cannot understand is the SNP's ludicrous position of wanting to take power from Westminster in an independence vote and then give power back to the unelected Commission.  

 

Do you find this info graphic useful? 

 

 

[HaymarketJambo]

Just now, ...a bit disco said:

More power to us.

 

 

Since yesterdays 'walkout'.

 

SNP BAD. 

[Boris]

15 minutes ago, jambo lodge said:

I saw through the farce that was and is the European " Project" in the 1975 vote and haven't changed my mind about it since. What I cannot understand is the SNP's ludicrous position of wanting to take power from Westminster in an independence vote and then give power back to the unelected Commission.  

 

But were a card carrying Liberal?

 

The most pro-european party.

[Space Mackerel]

1 minute ago, Boris said:

 

But were a card carrying Liberal?

 

The most pro-european party.

 

 

 

Well spotted Boris  

[Pans Jambo]

17 minutes ago, Doogz said:

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2018/06/13/snp-operated-secret-foi-regime-making-harder-journalists-msps/

https://www.express.co.uk/scotland/973851/Scotland-news-nicola-sturgeon-snp-foi-request-freedom-of-information-secret-scotland

http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/16287484.SNP_ministers_found_to_be_operating_secret_twin-track_FOI_regime/

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/snp-ministers-withholding-information-delaying-12701501

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/snp-special-advisers-screen-freedom-of-information-responses-5v9dkwmlw

 

 

So, Scotgov been found wanting and a report has said as much, made recommendations and they have now been adopted and implemented by the government.

 

Heres a quote from one of your links:

 

Joe Fitzpatrick, minister for parliamentary business Joe Fitzpatrick, said: “Being open and transparent is a priority set out in our current Programme for Government.

“We welcomed and cooperated fully with the Scottish Information Commissioner’s review and are happy to accept his recommendations in full to support our continued improvement.

“As the report highlights, we have already implemented a number of changes that have resulted in significant improvements to our FoI performance.

"In the first five months of 2018 we responded to 93 per cent of FoI requests on time, exceeding the 90 per cent target set by the Information Commissioner and a 10% increase on last year.

“Outside the FoI process, last year the Scottish Government responded to over 5,000 queries from journalists in a matter of hours.”

 

Just not the big scandal you hoped it was eh?

Edited June 14, 2018 by Pans Jambo

[Thunderstruck]

24 minutes ago, Pans Jambo said:

Ive been asking where all the oil trillions have went for years as well!

 

Laying off millions of heavy industry workers in the 80's

M25

M1/M6 upgrades

Channel Tunnel

Heathrow expansion

Falklands war

Jubilee line

1st bombing holiday in Iraq

NHS expansion (naw, not that one)

 

Still, it seems to be running out every year unyet they keep on pumping it and seem to continually find new fields as well.

 

Here's another slogan:

 

'It's our oil'

 

McCrone anyone?

 

& BTW, the SNP is not 'my own'party. Fed up saying that just because folk want Independence to better their country doesn't automatically make you a big SNP supporter.

 

You are talking of the past and would you have us believe that not a penny of public expenditure or regional assistance took place within Scotland. 

 

I was referring to Salmond’s promise (that means forthcoming or in the future) of £Trillions of oil income. What happened to that?

 

If the SNP is not your party, I look forward to reading your criticism of their many and ongoing failures. 

[Space Mackerel]

14 minutes ago, Doogz said:

 

Well done you predicted Spaceys reply - don't worry though he's loaded so can easily afford to lose the fiver

 

I was right, there was a Daily Express link in there.

 

You owe me 10 sheets. 

[Doogz]

2 minutes ago, Space Mackerel said:

 

I was right, there was a Daily Express link in there.

 

You owe me 10 sheets. 

But not just the express .... thanks for playing :-)

 

and £10 from a £5 bet .... no danger you passed "mafs" :-D

 

 

Edited June 14, 2018 by Doogz

[Space Mackerel]

5 minutes ago, Pans Jambo said:

So, Scotgov been found wanting and a report has said as much, made recommendations and they have now been implemented by the government.

 

Heres a quote from one of your links:

 

Joe Fitzpatrick, minister for parliamentary business Joe Fitzpatrick, said: “Being open and transparent is a priority set out in our current Programme for Government.

“We welcomed and cooperated fully with the Scottish Information Commissioner’s review and are happy to accept his recommendations in full to support our continued improvement.

“As the report highlights, we have already implemented a number of changes that have resulted in significant improvements to our FoI performance.

"In the first five months of 2018 we responded to 93 per cent of FoI requests on time, exceeding the 90 per cent target set by the Information Commissioner and a 10% increase on last year.

“Outside the FoI process, last year the Scottish Government responded to over 5,000 queries from journalists in a matter of hours.”

 

Just not the big scandal you hoped it was eh?

 

Talking about FOI requests, transparency, honesty and government, did these Brexit Impact assessments ever get released by the Torys down South?  

[jambo lodge]

12 minutes ago, Boris said:

 

But were a card carrying Liberal?

 

The most pro-european party.

I know…….always been a bit of a rebel though.

[Boris]

3 minutes ago, Thunderstruck said:

 

You are talking of the past and would you have us believe that not a penny of public expenditure or regional assistance took place within Scotland. 

 

I was referring to Salmond’s promise (that means forthcoming or in the future) of £Trillions of oil income. What happened to that?

 

If the SNP is not your party, I look forward to reading your criticism of their many and ongoing failures. 

 

Not much the SNP can do about that whilst Westminster looks after that.  Who is to say that an independent Scotland would operate it's oil fields differently and then increase revenue from it?

[Pans Jambo]

Just now, Thunderstruck said:

 

You are talking of the past and would you have us believe that not a penny of public expenditure or regional assistance took place within Scotland. 

 

I was referring to Salmond’s promise (that means forthcoming or in the future) of £Trillions of oil income. What happened to that?

 

If the SNP is not your party, I look forward to reading your criticism of their many and ongoing failures. 

See the post above. I looked into one of these 'failures' only to find that they had put their hands up, admitted it and put in corrective steps to address it. A bit crap that eh?

 

You do know any/all oil wealth goes directly to the treasury in London?

 

And what are these big public expenditure projects that Scotland benefitted from in the 70's, 80's and 90's? You know, when we were being referred to as the 'sick man of Europe'?

 

I look forward to reading about these and many other success stories.

[Boris]

Just now, jambo lodge said:

I know…….always been a bit of a rebel though.

 

Aye, fair play.

 

I used to quite like the Liberals, peaking when Charlie K was in charge.  They seemed genuinely radical.  Then Clegg punctured that ideal.