Craig_ Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 If you were banned from having another job then who would want to be an MP? ?60k is miniscule compared to what these people would expect to earn in the 'real' world. I'm not justifying the greed and corruption but it's easy to see why MPs look to other incomes. People who're actually interested in working for those who they represent?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Broken down- ?38 per hour pre tax You didn;t have to answer such a cheeky question...but cheers. Not even sure where I was going with it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 People who're actually interested in working for those who they represent?! True but, for the same reason very few people do unpaid or low-paid work for the community, folk want value for money for their skills...and they have bills to pay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Why not build a massive halls of residence type of thing for MP's and let them stay there? Would cut down on London residence allowances and any ability to scam the system, imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctor jambo Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 You didn;t have to answer such a cheeky question...but cheers. Not even sure where I was going with it! NO odds to me frankly- more than a policeman, less than a kitchen fitter/mechanic/ any feckin tradesman I can find Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RosscoC Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 If you were banned from having another job then who would want to be an MP? ?60k is miniscule compared to what these people would expect to earn in the 'real' world. I'm not justifying the greed and corruption but it's easy to see why MPs look to other incomes. As I said before - no one is forcing them to be MPs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pans Jambo Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Rifkind steps down... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-31603202 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgiewave Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Rifkind steps down... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-31603202 A bad day for Watsonians. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Rifkind steps down... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-31603202 Cue Boris Johnson.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 A bad day for Watsonians. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgiewave Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Siempre al acecho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMaganator Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 :rofl: http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/02/24/natalie-bennetts-car-crash-interview_n_6741572.html?utm_hp_ref=uk More air time for the Greens please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Why not build a massive halls of residence type of thing for MP's and let them stay there? Would cut down on London residence allowances and any ability to scam the system, imo. Every MP has an office in the Palace of Westminster. If we cut the number of MPs by half, we can convert the offices into wee bedsits with a bed, a wet room and a study with a desk so they can attend Parliament. The rest of the time should be spent in their bloody constituency working for the public that voted for them. No more second houses malarky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMaganator Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Every MP has an office in the Palace of Westminster. If we cut the number of MPs by half, we can convert the offices into wee bedsits with a bed, a wet room and a study with a desk so they can attend Parliament. The rest of the time should be spent in their bloody constituency working for the public that voted for them. No more second houses malarky. We're trying to attract the best and the brightest here... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctor jambo Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 We're trying to attract the best and the brightest here... No, you aren't Some are trying to attract socialist loons to whom this would be acceptable (as making some kind of anti- rich statement) Some are trying to attract the already successful, to whom this would be irrelevant as they are already loaded and have a city lodging And the others don't win enough seats for us really to give a crap where they stay or even if they turn up,as their numbers are too small to effect voting anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zico Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 :rofl: http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/02/24/natalie-bennetts-car-crash-interview_n_6741572.html?utm_hp_ref=uk More air time for the Greens please Listened to that earlier, absolutely hilarious - 5 grand to build a house! She'd be better doing what other Aussies do in the UK; work in a bar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMaganator Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 I have always loved this image of Salmond from 1999. Seems I am not the only one. Can you help? "My Desperate Search To Find The Woman Who Alex Salmond Fed A Solero To In 1999" http://www.buzzfeed.com/jamieross/do-you-want-a-flake-and-an-independent-scotland-with-that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBJambo Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 I have always loved this image of Salmond from 1999. Seems I am not the only one. Can you help? "My Desperate Search To Find The Woman Who Alex Salmond Fed A Solero To In 1999" http://www.buzzfeed.com/jamieross/do-you-want-a-flake-and-an-independent-scotland-with-that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBJambo Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 I have always loved this image of Salmond from 1999. Seems I am not the only one. Can you help? "My Desperate Search To Find The Woman Who Alex Salmond Fed A Solero To In 1999" http://www.buzzfeed.com/jamieross/do-you-want-a-flake-and-an-independent-scotland-with-that That's a disturbing picture. (Mod edit) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psychedelicropcircle Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 ^^^^the things you resort to when the media can't find things to bash the snp with. Anyway x2 didn't I see you post a link to the snp and prison strike fiasco which (again) wasn't accurate. Hope you've not joined the Labour Party policy of deletion of media misinformation!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RosscoC Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 That's a disturbing picture. (Mod edit) What does that even mean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 That's a disturbing picture.(mod edit)Ridiculous statement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMaganator Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 ^^^^the things you resort to when the media can't find things to bash the snp with. Anyway x2 didn't I see you post a link to the snp and prison strike fiasco which (again) wasn't accurate. Hope you've not joined the Labour Party policy of deletion of media misinformation!!!!!Just a bit of bantz mate. Chill out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djf Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Survation have Labour 6 points up tonight. Meaty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Survation have Labour 6 points up tonight. Meaty. In Scotland or UK wide? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToadKiller Dog Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 (edited) In Scotland or UK wide?Latest poll of polls is in this http://scotgoespop.blogspot.co.uk/2015/02/snp-lead-by-17-in-new-poll-of-polls.html?m=1 Still healthy lead gir SNP but a wee bit back for Murphy new Scittish labour project Think the 6% is UK wide Edited February 24, 2015 by ToadKiller Dog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMaganator Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Survation have Labour 6 points up tonight. Meaty.That's pretty high for survation? Is it not? I thought they were pretty SNP heavy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussieh Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 :rofl: http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/02/24/natalie-bennetts-car-crash-interview_n_6741572.html?utm_hp_ref=uk More air time for the Greens please Forgot the manifesto, shes going to undo all the good work Patrick Harvey has done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMaganator Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Forgot the manifesto, shes going to undo all the good work Patrick Harvey has done.Thought he did well during the referendum. He's on Scotland 2015 at the moment - a debate on the future of oil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussieh Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Thought he did well during the referendum. He's on Scotland 2015 at the moment - a debate on the future of oil Cheers, didnt know it was on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboX2 Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 ^^^^the things you resort to when the media can't find things to bash the snp with. Anyway x2 didn't I see you post a link to the snp and prison strike fiasco which (again) wasn't accurate. Hope you've not joined the Labour Party policy of deletion of media misinformation!!!!! Link I posted was from the Scotsman. What part of the government buying off a unions right to strike was inaccurate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussieh Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 Thought he did well during the referendum. He's on Scotland 2015 at the moment - a debate on the future of oil He carries himself well. Hope he gets rewarded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psychedelicropcircle Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 Link I posted was from the Scotsman. What part of the government buying off a unions right to strike was inaccurate? Read something about the prison officers association saying it wasn't a no strike deal will see if I can find link p.s if I'm wrong I'll do wot jimbob won't and issue a JKB apology! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboX2 Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 Read something about the prison officers association saying it wasn't a no strike deal will see if I can find link p.s if I'm wrong I'll do wot jimbob won't and issue a JKB apology! SPA and the Justice Secretary said it was. Any limitation to the right to strike would be a very disappointing and disturbing issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToadKiller Dog Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 Labour Baron prefers a coalition with the Tory party than the SNP . This view clearly is more prelevant in the party than they are letting on . http://www.thenational.scot/politics/peer-inflames-row-after-saying-labour-better-off-with-conservatives-than-snp-in-coalition.503 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToadKiller Dog Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 Again the letter from the head of the prison officers Union to the Scotsman over the lies about a no strike deal .http://scotsnewsonline.info/10168/letter-to-scotsman-editor-from-prisoner-officer-association/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMaganator Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 Labour Baron prefers a coalition with the Tory party than the SNP . This view clearly is more prelevant in the party than they are letting on . http://www.thenational.scot/politics/peer-inflames-row-after-saying-labour-better-off-with-conservatives-than-snp-in-coalition.503 Hmm, working with a party that wants what's best for the UK (despite disagreeing on how that's best achieved) - or working with a party that wants to destroy Britain. It's a no-brainer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMaganator Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 Again the letter from the head of the prison officers Union to the Scotsman over the lies about a no strike deal .http://scotsnewsonline.info/10168/letter-to-scotsman-editor-from-prisoner-officer-association/What are the lies? Have they not signed a deal agreeing not to strike for 2 years without facing a financial penalty? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAYEL Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 Labours Plan " Hard working familes " " Stop the tories -vote labour " Promise this , promise that Right then jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RosscoC Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 Hmm, working with a party that wants what's best for the UK (despite disagreeing on how that's best achieved) - or working with a party that wants to destroy Britain. It's a no-brainer. So why are more of them not being more open about it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToadKiller Dog Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 Hmm, working with a party that wants what's best for the UK (despite disagreeing on how that's best achieved) - or working with a party that wants to destroy Britain. It's a no-brainer. The Tory party want what's best for the UK yeah pull the other one . You are correct in one respect the modern Labour Party has more in common with the Tory party than Labours former grass roots hence the decline in labour membership in Scotland . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToadKiller Dog Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 What are the lies? Have they not signed a deal agreeing not to strike for 2 years without facing a financial penalty? In not a no strike deal it's the resolution to a dispute over pay , the POA are still able to strike if say a officer is unfairly sacked . The paper and politicians played it as a no strike at all agreement which is clearly wrong and aimed at creating political capital . I would have thought a Tory as yourself would be happy at the government /POA agreement . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussieh Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 The Tory party want what's best for the UK yeah pull the other one . You are correct in one respect the modern Labour Party has more in common with the Tory party than Labours former grass roots hence the decline in labour membership in Scotland . I thought they had already merged, dont know where the Tories end and Liebour begin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMaganator Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 The Tory party want what's best for the UK yeah pull the other one . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djf Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 It's quite enjoyable watching Cameron tie himself in knots to explain why receiving funding from Unions is 'bad' but receiving donations from rich donors is 'a-ok'. He has nowhere to go and even the most rabid Conservative commentators are admitting that it's a terrible line of attack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboX2 Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 In not a no strike deal it's the resolution to a dispute over pay , the POA are still able to strike if say a officer is unfairly sacked . The paper and politicians played it as a no strike at all agreement which is clearly wrong and aimed at creating political capital . I would have thought a Tory as yourself would be happy at the government /POA agreement . It's still a limiting of the right to strike and is a worrying tactic being used by government in negotiating with Unions to say you can get a pay rise for loosing rights. Its in effect a deal like the shares for rights nonsense the Tories have peddled this parliament. You gain a financial reward for limited rights. Frankly, as someone who's interests in politics are based on the left, its not pro-workers rights to limit the right to strike. They cant strike on pay for two years. The deal could change and they can't strike. If they do the debt collectors will be sent in to get this ?2000 bonus the POA members got. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 So Tories and Labour are now the same, except the SNP would only consider a coalition/supply and confidence with Labour. When do they become different again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 It's still a limiting of the right to strike and is a worrying tactic being used by government in negotiating with Unions to say you can get a pay rise for loosing rights. Its in effect a deal like the shares for rights nonsense the Tories have peddled this parliament. You gain a financial reward for limited rights. Frankly, as someone who's interests in politics are based on the left, its not pro-workers rights to limit the right to strike. They cant strike on pay for two years. The deal could change and they can't strike. If they do the debt collectors will be sent in to get this ?2000 bonus the POA members got. Sensing furious backtracking here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboX2 Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 I thought they had already merged, dont know where the Tories end and Liebour begin. Ask Sturgeon. She wants to create a progressive coalition with Labour at Westminster after May this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rand Paul's Ray Bans Posted February 25, 2015 Author Share Posted February 25, 2015 If a prison officer wants to sell his or her right to strike for two years for ?2000, then all power to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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