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Roxy Hearts
28 minutes ago, Cruyff said:

:rofl:Is that mankyjaikit back? 

Jesus wept! If it's not bad enough with triple J and manaliveits105 it's dopeyjr9! Unionists ffs!

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JudyJudyJudy
5 minutes ago, Roxy Hearts said:

Jesus wept! If it's not bad enough with triple J and manaliveits105 it's dopeyjr9! Unionists ffs!

Terrible when people have opposing views isn’t it Roxy ! 😂😂 

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JudyJudyJudy
1 hour ago, doddsyJR9 said:

Aye indeed, Too many leftist oirish gimps hiding everywhere.

Oh this place is hooching with “lefties” aka  champagne Socialists . 

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JudyJudyJudy
11 minutes ago, Roxy Hearts said:

Jesus wept! If it's not bad enough with triple J and manaliveits105 it's dopeyjr9! Unionists ffs!

That dodsy guy has fair  livened up this place . It was beginning to resemble a morgue . 

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17 minutes ago, JudyJudyJudy said:

That dodsy guy has fair  livened up this place . It was beginning to resemble a morgue . 

Well he gave me a good laugh. Hope he puts up more post's,  cheered me up no end....🤣🤣

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JudyJudyJudy
3 minutes ago, micole said:

Well he gave me a good laugh. Hope he puts up more post's,  cheered me up no end....🤣🤣

 

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That thing you do
54 minutes ago, JudyJudyJudy said:

Terrible when people have opposing views isn’t it Roxy ! 😂😂 

It is when they are wrong and they cant see it and it holds Scotland back.

 

Scotland can and must go its own way.

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Roxy Hearts
12 hours ago, JudyJudyJudy said:

That dodsy guy has fair  livened up this place . It was beginning to resemble a morgue . 

Thanks to your contributions!

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il Duce McTarkin
12 hours ago, That thing you do said:

 

Scotland can and must go its own way.

 

Posted from the comfort of Mexico.

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jack D and coke
12 hours ago, micole said:

Well he gave me a good laugh. Hope he puts up more post's,  cheered me up no end....🤣🤣

We need more drunk posting imo 😀

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That thing you do
8 minutes ago, il Duce McTarkin said:

 

Posted from the comfort of Mexico.

Ever asked why I went overseas? 

 

Ill tell you. I lived in Berlin for 2 years prior to completing an Ethical Hacking Masters. I couldnt pass security clearance needed for the industry (which often involved UK Gov or MOD) because I didnt have 10 years continuous residence in the UK.

 

Thus, I forged my career abroad. I happen to know that the plan for the IT Security industry on independence is to revert rules to European norms which would allow me to come and work in Scotland.

 

Quite apart from that, my undergrad included Economics and we had sessions on the economics of an independent Scotland and it was very clear that Scotland was a viable self sustaining nation.

 

Unless you take citizenship of a foriegn country being based outside the UK/Scotland does not make your point of view any less valid.

 

 

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27 minutes ago, That thing you do said:

Ever asked why I went overseas? 

 

Ill tell you. I lived in Berlin for 2 years prior to completing an Ethical Hacking Masters. I couldnt pass security clearance needed for the industry (which often involved UK Gov or MOD) because I didnt have 10 years continuous residence in the UK.

 

Thus, I forged my career abroad. I happen to know that the plan for the IT Security industry on independence is to revert rules to European norms which would allow me to come and work in Scotland.

 

Quite apart from that, my undergrad included Economics and we had sessions on the economics of an independent Scotland and it was very clear that Scotland was a viable self sustaining nation.

 

Unless you take citizenship of a foriegn country being based outside the UK/Scotland does not make your point of view any less valid.

 

 

 

Couldn't make it here, knows the details of a security plan that'll never come in to force, decided Scottish Independence was the righteous path as a teenager and believes their opinion on breaking up the UK is as valid as someone who will live with the consequences.

 

 :terrific:  

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il Duce McTarkin
31 minutes ago, pablo said:

 

Couldn't make it here, knows the details of a security plan that'll never come in to force, decided Scottish Independence was the righteous path as a teenager and believes their opinion on breaking up the UK is as valid as someone who will live with the consequences.

 

 :terrific:  

 

:spoton:

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That thing you do
2 hours ago, pablo said:

 

Couldn't make it here, knows the details of a security plan that'll never come in to force, decided Scottish Independence was the righteous path as a teenager and believes their opinion on breaking up the UK is as valid as someone who will live with the consequences.

 

 :terrific:  

I will live with the consequences too if I come back. Until Im a citizen of another country, my voice is as valid as anyones. I still pay UK taxes after all.

 

Wasnt a case of couldnt make it either. Was a case of ludicrous rules only the UK has on security clearance (at least in Europe)

 

 

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JudyJudyJudy
5 hours ago, pablo said:

 

Couldn't make it here, knows the details of a security plan that'll never come in to force, decided Scottish Independence was the righteous path as a teenager and believes their opinion on breaking up the UK is as valid as someone who will live with the consequences.

 

 :terrific:  

👍👍

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i wish jj was my dad

What is the connection with Humza's brother in law to a debate about independence? Seen a few posts about it.   

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JudyJudyJudy
1 hour ago, Roxy Hearts said:

I clicked the link and it's about that idiot Penny Mordaunt's brother! Your heroine or hero! Is drug policy reserved or devolved?

Some of it is devolved ? So what’s your point ? Does it matter ? 

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JudyJudyJudy

 

The clue for mentioning this news is in the thread title. It's not rocket science.

 

Now  imagine if it was Sunaks relations up to alleged all sorts? I'm sure there would rightly be some furore about that On this . In fact he can't fart without it being vigorously condemned on this

 

Mr Yousaf is spear heading the Indy campaign so one expects him and his friends / family to be squeaky clean. He is leading a UK party and his bro in law has been charged for serious drug offences. Standards in public office

 

Looks like the cultists are very much up their usual apologist behaviours.

 

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JudyJudyJudy
4 minutes ago, Japan Jambo said:

 

Drugs in Dundee? Who knew?

Yes seems so , Quelle surprise . Even got “ celebrity” alleged dealers 

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Japan Jambo
1 minute ago, JudyJudyJudy said:

Yes seems so , Quelle surprise . Even got “ celebrity” alleged dealers 

 

Guess advocating for consumption rooms was just promoting the family business?

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i wish jj was my dad

Humza is using his position as FM to enable drug dealing? 

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spirt of 98

SNP really have Hibsed it! 
 

Camper vans

stupid policies

Unelected FM

etc 

 

SNP out! 

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JudyJudyJudy
46 minutes ago, Japan Jambo said:

 

Guess advocating for consumption rooms was just promoting the family business?

 

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i wish jj was my dad

Still don't see any connection with Humza's brother in law's behaviour to independence. 

Just the same as Sturgeon's sister's online behaviour didn't. Or for that matter, Tony Blair's laddie getting melted had no bearing on his politics. Neither did BJ's faither's domestic abuse. 

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Independence isn't a priority for as much of electorate as it previously was. The SNP are for the first time in over a decade being scrutinised on policy and performance. Which is a good thing obviously. 

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Seymour M Hersh
8 minutes ago, pablo said:

 

Independence isn't a priority for as much of electorate as it previously was. The SNP are for the first time in over a decade being scrutinised on policy and performance. Which is a good thing obviously. 

 

Not for the cult it's not! 

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1 hour ago, Seymour M Hersh said:

 

Not for the cult it's not! 

 

No, not the Cult. But there were a lot of voters who will be broadly speaking be pro Independence who will have realised that as a realistic scenario, it's over for the foreseeable. 

 

These same voters who will have cast their vote for the SNP for patriotic reasons. Standing up for Scotland etc will be aware of the shit show over the last few years in particular, and are switching to Labour as the only meaningful vote they have. Hence SNP predicted to lose seats at the next GE while support for Independence is pretty solid.

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JudyJudyJudy
20 minutes ago, pablo said:

 

No, not the Cult. But there were a lot of voters who will be broadly speaking be pro Independence who will have realised that as a realistic scenario, it's over for the foreseeable. 

 

These same voters who will have cast their vote for the SNP for patriotic reasons. Standing up for Scotland etc will be aware of the shit show over the last few years in particular, and are switching to Labour as the only meaningful vote they have. Hence SNP predicted to lose seats at the next GE while support for Independence is pretty solid.

Sounds about right . 

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Malinga the Swinga
1 hour ago, Seymour M Hersh said:

 

Not for the cult it's not! 

Nope, the cultists are now concerned about resurgent Labour which is why, after largely ignoring them, they've started to try and pick fault with the party.

Deflector shields are at full pelt as the realisation hits home that Humza and SNP are sleep walking into oblivion (as are the Tories).

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Dirty Deeds

Labour look set to pick up a lot of independence voters at the next general election.

 

Future hopes of independence will then require the SNP sorting itself out, stopping the gesture politics, make a clear case for independence and work with Westminster if they stay in control at Holyrood.

 

Labour on the other hand need to deliver for all the UK without losing their key English centre-right voters. A tricky balance.

 

If Labour move further to the right and the SNP sort themselves out, independence becomes inevitable but it's a long game.

 

Whatever happens, a Labour government now is greatly preferable to the Tories.

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JudyJudyJudy
55 minutes ago, Malinga the Swinga said:

Nope, the cultists are now concerned about resurgent Labour which is why, after largely ignoring them, they've started to try and pick fault with the party.

Deflector shields are at full pelt as the realisation hits home that Humza and SNP are sleep walking into oblivion (as are the Tories).

Yes the cultists , in their desperation are trying to moderate this thread , as it appears any discussion about the prime Indy leader is off bounds !! On a Indy thread 🧵 😂

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jack D and coke
1 hour ago, Dirty Deeds said:

Labour look set to pick up a lot of independence voters at the next general election.

 

Future hopes of independence will then require the SNP sorting itself out, stopping the gesture politics, make a clear case for independence and work with Westminster if they stay in control at Holyrood.

 

Labour on the other hand need to deliver for all the UK without losing their key English centre-right voters. A tricky balance.

 

If Labour move further to the right and the SNP sort themselves out, independence becomes inevitable but it's a long game.

 

Whatever happens, a Labour government now is greatly preferable to the Tories.

No labour don’t need to give a flying **** what anyone here wants. We all know that lol. 
Keep the SE happy and pander to the right wing press barons.
Job done. 

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5 hours ago, i wish jj was my dad said:

Still don't see any connection with Humza's brother in law's behaviour to independence. 

Just the same as Sturgeon's sister's online behaviour didn't. Or for that matter, Tony Blair's laddie getting melted had no bearing on his politics. Neither did BJ's faither's domestic abuse. 

 

At the end of the day, how do you argue against representative democracy for an electorate that's held no sway in a GE for half a century?

 

You can't, so you're left with slinging mud and acting the ****

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23 minutes ago, jack D and coke said:

No labour don’t need to give a flying **** what anyone here wants. We all know that lol. 
Keep the SE happy and pander to the right wing press barons.
Job done. 

 

The last GE where Scotland made a difference was before I was born. I reach my half century this year.

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jack D and coke
19 minutes ago, ǝǝɥʇᴉɯS said:

 

The last GE where Scotland made a difference was before I was born. I reach my half century this year.

Scotland is a tiny minority that no uk govt has to pay the slightest bit attention to. Keith didn’t even know anyones name up here🤣
They don’t need our votes at all. 
Crazy that some people think we hold any sway whatsoever in the result. 

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2 hours ago, Dirty Deeds said:

Labour look set to pick up a lot of independence voters at the next general election.

 

Future hopes of independence will then require the SNP sorting itself out, stopping the gesture politics, make a clear case for independence and work with Westminster if they stay in control at Holyrood.

 

Labour on the other hand need to deliver for all the UK without losing their key English centre-right voters. A tricky balance.

 

If Labour move further to the right and the SNP sort themselves out, independence becomes inevitable but it's a long game.

 

Whatever happens, a Labour government now is greatly preferable to the Tories.

 

Exactly, not only are the SNP shit at governing Scotland, shit as

 opposition in Westminster they're absolutely shit at delivering Independence.

 

Their message last week about vote SNP to prevent a Tory government was yet another nonsense that anyone can see.

 

They'd be better off writing off the next election, sitting back and then adopting the approach of see, Labour are no different/better than the Conservatives. 

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Hagar the Horrible
3 minutes ago, pablo said:

 

Exactly, not only are the SNP shit at governing Scotland, shit as

 opposition in Westminster they're absolutely shit at delivering Independence.

 

Their message last week about vote SNP to prevent a Tory government was yet another nonsense that anyone can see.

 

They'd be better off writing off the next election, sitting back and then adopting the approach of see, Labour are no different/better than the Conservatives. 

You don't run a campaign saying vote for us because we are not some hateful scary monster hiding under the bed, especially when you are a scarier monster.  Vote for us because we urnay toareez, is not a campaign tactic that will work neither will vote for us coz we wull be Freeee.  Labour don't have a manifesto other than not being Conservative but are no longer Corbynite just Torylite, so a safe bet, even if its just for 1 term.  The Lib-dems search for what the populist peoples choice which  is then matched to their mantra  to pick up the scraps.  The Greens are barking mental, and anybody gives them their second vote is wasted, it would be better voting for lentils.

 

The SNP for the good of the economy needs to wiped out, but more so at Holyrood

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Nucky Thompson

I think the SNP would stand a better chance of gaining independence if they changed to a more centre right party

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3 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said:

I think the SNP would stand a better chance of gaining independence if they changed to a more centre right party

 

But hey, what do you know about politics nuck? 😁

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Nucky Thompson
11 minutes ago, ǝǝɥʇᴉɯS said:

 

But hey, what do you know about politics nuck? 😁

Somebody else told me :biggrin2:

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il Duce McTarkin
37 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said:

I think the SNP would stand a better chance of gaining independence if they changed to a more centre right party

 

We need more centre right parties imo.

 

Enough of this wishy-washy, minority pandering, goonery.

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Hagar the Horrible

This guy is like Prince Andrew of the SNP.  what an embarrassment, who will be jailed first, his brother-in-law or his Mammy?

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Lord Montpelier
35 minutes ago, Hagar the Horrible said:

This guy is like Prince Andrew of the SNP.  what an embarrassment, who will be jailed first, his brother-in-law or his Mammy?

Give him a break, he's only on 170k per year. 

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