The Rangers soap opera goes on and on.

[soonbe110]

2 hours ago, Blackford Hearts said:

Proof that they have not learned anything from being liquidated. 

 

(The) Rangers' recent financial loss (£14million) will not impact Steven Gerrard's budget, says managing director Stewart Robertson.

 

http://bbc.in/2JA81YU

 

Maybe because he doesn’t have a budget. 

[Blackford Hearts]

13 minutes ago, soonbe110 said:

Maybe because he doesn’t have a budget. 

Perfect answer!!! ?

[Bridge of Djoum]

On 30/10/2018 at 14:17, CJGJ said:

https://www.rangersnews.uk/news/financial-gap-between-rangers-and-celtic-revealed/

 

Also info about us, Aberdeen etc

 

Info also on wages thread

''us'', aye?

[JohnB]

A good read from Wings Over Scotland regarding Scottish Media reporting and Rangers:

https://wingsoverscotland.com/the-sleepy-watchmen/#more-107296

[NANOJAMBO]

1 hour ago, JohnB said:

A good read from Wings Over Scotland regarding Scottish Media reporting and Rangers:

https://wingsoverscotland.com/the-sleepy-watchmen/#more-107296

He's calling out journos ,as if it's journalism's fault. He should be calling out the SFA & SPFL. 

[Dirty Deeds]

5 hours ago, NANOJAMBO said:

He's calling out journos ,as if it's journalism's fault. He should be calling out the SFA & SPFL. 

In the end it's up to the Rangers fans to question the current model.  

 

If they don't and then don't step up when the money dries up,  hell mend them.

[kirkierobroy]

8 hours ago, NANOJAMBO said:

He's calling out journos ,as if it's journalism's fault.

 

Journalism is what he focuses on, so it's a fair call.

 

WoS guy is a bit of a roaster, but different from Mad Phil Mac Collygoon in that he always gives the sources and references he's talking about. He's bang on the money here, though doesn't wade into the wider football ramifications as you say; SPFL.SFA sitting on their hauns, your own fruity Edinburgh derby being used to deflect attention from Rangers' financial swamp (and Celtic's charming flare-chucking, poppy-mocking, IRA-lauding visit to Dens).

[Dunks]

Not sure how to link to Twitter, but Channel 4 had an interview lined up with Stevie G today to talk about a film being made about his life. Few minutes before the interview and an aide tells them not to mention his wife, Neil Lennon or sectarianism in football. The aide then left and never came back and Stevie G never showed either.

 

Odd behaviour.

 

[Dunks]

It was Ciaran Jenkins @C4Ciaran

 

[Scnorthedinburgh]

34 minutes ago, Dunks said:

It was Ciaran Jenkins @C4Ciaran

 

There you go

 

[PeterintheRain]

On 05/11/2018 at 01:03, NANOJAMBO said:

He's calling out journos ,as if it's journalism's fault. He should be calling out the SFA & SPFL. 

 

 He's pointing out that the same institutions which lie to us day after day when it comes to politics are the same ones who lie day after day when it comes to sport.     

 

   For some reason there's some deluded people still in Scotland who believe the EBC and the anti-SMSM.   The whole sevco saga proves what a bunch of liars they are.  If a, "journalist" can't report the facts about deadgers then why trust them to report the facts about Scotland in the EU. The GERS lie. The vanishing Oil and Whiskey revenues.  Why Norway is so much richer than us. etc.

 

   The whole Rangers > Sevco saga is case study in the Yoon media.   That's why he attacks the media.  

 

   He also attacks the GFA when they deserve it. Over the disaster of TV deals, International defeats and endless pandering to glasgow bigotry.

[brunoatemyhamster]

1 hour ago, Dunks said:

Not sure how to link to Twitter, but Channel 4 had an interview lined up with Stevie G today to talk about a film being made about his life. Few minutes before the interview and an aide tells them not to mention his wife, Neil Lennon or sectarianism in football. The aide then left and never came back and Stevie G never showed either.

 

Odd behaviour.

 

Any questions about 15 year olds?

Suppose it is C4 and not the Police.

 

[ghkjambo]

I’m not surprised that very little attention is being paid by the Scottish media to their losses. However, I am pretty sure that UEFA will be taking a closer look next year. I reported a conversation on here with a UEFA insider before the deadline this season which I was confident would see them disqualified. That turned out to not be the case but I believe the auditors insistence on the going concern clause that was recently included will haunt Sevco. The failure of NOAL to provide promised funds last year is a huge issue for the repeated claim this year. I think King will have to be away before next season or he (NOAL) will be ponying up the shortfall in an elaborate manner in order to meet FFP regulations. They have crossed a very important rubicon...

[Mysterion]

Surprised not to see any reference to SwissRamble after his Rangers finance tweets today.

 

Here’s the link (lots of info and graphs)

https://twitter.com/swissramble/status/1059723979496263680?s=21

[jamboz]

36 minutes ago, Mysterion said:

Surprised not to see any reference to SwissRamble after his Rangers finance tweets today.

 

Here’s the link (lots of info and graphs)

https://twitter.com/swissramble/status/1059723979496263680?s=21

 

They are bams of the highest order.  Every revenue stream increased for them last year but the still made record losses. 

 

But it is still nothing to see here as far as the fans, media and footballing authorities are concerned. 

 

Imagine the outcry first first of all from our support and also the media if this was the reality at Hearts. 

 

The sooner they they go pop again the better for everyone, themselves included. 

Edited November 7, 2018 by jamboz

[...a bit disco]

42 minutes ago, Mysterion said:

Surprised not to see any reference to SwissRamble after his Rangers finance tweets today.

 

Here’s the link (lots of info and graphs)

https://twitter.com/swissramble/status/1059723979496263680?s=21

 

Read it earlier but really couldn't be arsed copying and pasting that lot!

 

 

[N Lincs Jambo]

Wages as a %age of turnover is 74%. Can't see them getting a UEFA licence next season.

[Strachsuit]

On 04/11/2018 at 23:35, JohnB said:

A good read from Wings Over Scotland regarding Scottish Media reporting and Rangers:

https://wingsoverscotland.com/the-sleepy-watchmen/#more-107296

 

[Strachsuit]

2 hours ago, N Lincs Jambo said:

Wages as a %age of turnover is 74%. Can't see them getting a UEFA licence next season.

 

Of course they will. Remember it's the GFA that make the decision on the licence!

[buzzbomb1958]

45 minutes ago, Strachsuit said:

 

Of course they will. Remember it's the GFA that make the decision on the licence!

If the thug Messiah has any thing to do with spending % of turnover will be a lot higher leaving them with a much larger deficit than last season ,seem to be the only club in eufa competition who get a licence while trading at massive losses

[Jamboelite]

But “Rangers” is plainly a fundamentally unviable business, the corporate equivalent of a desperate gambler chasing after unrecoverable losses by putting down bigger and bigger bets with money he doesn’t have. The stands are already packed, so there’s no scope for cramming in any more paying customers to watch those enthralling draws with Kilmarnock. And costs can only escalate exponentially in the pursuit of the fantasy of the shiny gold Champions League ring.

Yet the scrutineers of the press look on unmoved as history repeats itself."

 

Good comments

[FWJ]

Sorry to be so thick about all this, but who is carrying these losses?  Have they got a big overdraft getting more loans?  How does it work?

[NANOJAMBO]

16 hours ago, Dunks said:

Not sure how to link to Twitter, but Channel 4 had an interview lined up with Stevie G today to talk about a film being made about his life. Few minutes before the interview and an aide tells them not to mention his wife, Neil Lennon or sectarianism in football. The aide then left and never came back and Stevie G never showed either.

 

Odd behaviour.

 

He's only been at Rangers for 5 minutes and has achieved nothing there - yet. The relevance of Rangers to his  football career is minimal to say the least  (other than getting a bigger TV audience by mentioning Rangers ?). The details about his wife are potentially dynamite( but are already in the public domain anyway but maybe not widely known outside of Liverpool ) and won't put him in a good light but that is nothing compared to the death threats he received from a Liverpool gangster  (when he was wanted by Chelsea) and the subsequent death of said gangster and the comments made by his father in a criminal trial as a defence witness for said gangster.

 

I'd have thought Lennon/sectarianism was nothing compared to the above. 

[We_are_the_Hearts]

5 minutes ago, NANOJAMBO said:

He's only been at Rangers for 5 minutes and has achieved nothing there - yet. The relevance of Rangers to his  football career is minimal to say the least  (other than getting a bigger TV audience by mentioning Rangers ?). The details about his wife are potentially dynamite( but are already in the public domain anyway but maybe not widely known outside of Liverpool ) and won't put him in a good light but that is nothing compared to the death threats he received from a Liverpool gangster  (when he was wanted by Chelsea) and the subsequent death of said gangster and the comments made by his father in a criminal trial as a defence witness for said gangster.

 

I'd have thought Lennon/sectarianism was nothing compared to the above.  

What's the drill with his wife?

[NANOJAMBO]

1 hour ago, We_are_the_Hearts said:

What's the drill with his wife?

Just Google Gerrard and pancake. That should get you what you need. 

[The Future's Maroon]

6 minutes ago, NANOJAMBO said:

Just Google Gerrard and pancake. That should get you what you need. 

It did indeed. I wonder if true?!

[Footballfirst]

You can also Google Gerrard and Phil Collins, a case which has similarities with that of England cricketer Ben Stokes.

[NANOJAMBO]

3 minutes ago, Footballfirst said:

You can also Google Gerrard and Phil Collins, a case which has similarities with that of England cricketer Ben Stokes.

Was that the Xmas singalong ? 

[NANOJAMBO]

14 minutes ago, The Future's Maroon said:

It did indeed. I wonder if true?!

The stuff about his old man being a character witness for a gangster is much more interesting - and true. That's when it became known the Gerrard's had used this guy to "deal "with a  death threat. 

[south morroccan]

Probably just gossip but you could Google Alex Curran and an ex Celtic and Derby player who can't spell his first name 

[Meadows]

1 hour ago, south morroccan said:

Probably just gossip but you could Google Alex Curran and an ex Celtic and Derby player who can't spell his first name 

 

Quite a common surname ? 

[Joey J J Jr Shabadoo]

2 hours ago, NANOJAMBO said:

The stuff about his old man being a character witness for a gangster is much more interesting - and true. That's when it became known the Gerrard's had used this guy to "deal "with a  death threat. 

When Chelsea were after him and stevie g stayed out of "loyalty"? 

[Dunks]

5 hours ago, south morroccan said:

Probably just gossip but you could Google Alex Curran and an ex Celtic and Derby player who can't spell his first name 

 

Was that around the same time a 16yo became pregnant following an alleged intervention in the box by Mr G?

[Footballfirst]

Statement o'clock at Ibrox Towers, this time about Willie Collum. If only all clubs were able to complain when a nonsensical refereeing decision goes against them, then it might lead to some changes.

https://rangers.co.uk/news/headlines/daniel-candeias/

CLUB RESPONSE TO SCOTTISH FA’S DECISION TO DISMISS OUR APPEAL:

 

RANGERS are extremely disappointed with the decision of the Scottish FA’s Judicial Panel to dismiss our appeal against the second yellow card shown to Daniel Candeias in the closing seconds of last Saturday’s match against St Mirren.

 

Rangers afforded the governing body the opportunity to let common sense prevail and we are surprised they have chosen not to do so by correcting what was, and what remains an inexplicable decision by the match referee, Willie Collum. Rangers shall now seek a fundamental review of the rules relating to red cards which result from two bookings of a player in a game.

 

If one of these decisions is obviously wrong, it must be possible to correct that mistake. It is wrong that players’ livelihoods and careers can be impacted without the opportunity of redress, especially when the official responsible for the miscarriage of justice is allowed to continue as though beyond question or reproach.

It defies belief that this same referee, who got it so blatantly wrong last Saturday, is awarded one of the biggest matches in Scottish football this weekend while Daniel Candeias is denied the right to go to his work. This, frankly, is unacceptable.

 

Furthermore, it is understood that a number of people within the Scottish FA are in no doubt Mr Collum’s judgment was flawed and Rangers shall also now be submitting a formal complaint about the performance of this referee. The manner in which he reacted to an incident involving our player made it obvious he did not give due consideration to his decision.

 

This is by no means the first time errors of judgment have been made in matches involving this official and clearly there is an underlying issue which requires to be addressed.

[Footballfirst]

King is back in court on TOP business next Friday, this time in front of the Inner House (Appeal court) judges.

 

It may relate to Lady Wolffe's decision on the competence or otherwise of TOP's complaint of King being in contempt of court.

 

INNER HOUSE ROLLS – FIRST DIVISION

Friday 16th November – Single Bill at 10.00am

P341/17 Pet: The Panel for Takeovers and Mergers for orders under section 955 – Dentons UK – Lindsays

[soonbe110]

46 minutes ago, Footballfirst said:

Statement o'clock at Ibrox Towers, this time about Willie Collum. If only all clubs were able to complain when a nonsensical refereeing decision goes against them, then it might lead to some changes.

https://rangers.co.uk/news/headlines/daniel-candeias/

CLUB RESPONSE TO SCOTTISH FA’S DECISION TO DISMISS OUR APPEAL:

 

RANGERS are extremely disappointed with the decision of the Scottish FA’s Judicial Panel to dismiss our appeal against the second yellow card shown to Daniel Candeias in the closing seconds of last Saturday’s match against St Mirren.

 

Rangers afforded the governing body the opportunity to let common sense prevail and we are surprised they have chosen not to do so by correcting what was, and what remains an inexplicable decision by the match referee, Willie Collum. Rangers shall now seek a fundamental review of the rules relating to red cards which result from two bookings of a player in a game.

 

If one of these decisions is obviously wrong, it must be possible to correct that mistake. It is wrong that players’ livelihoods and careers can be impacted without the opportunity of redress, especially when the official responsible for the miscarriage of justice is allowed to continue as though beyond question or reproach.

It defies belief that this same referee, who got it so blatantly wrong last Saturday, is awarded one of the biggest matches in Scottish football this weekend while Daniel Candeias is denied the right to go to his work. This, frankly, is unacceptable.

 

Furthermore, it is understood that a number of people within the Scottish FA are in no doubt Mr Collum’s judgment was flawed and Rangers shall also now be submitting a formal complaint about the performance of this referee. The manner in which he reacted to an incident involving our player made it obvious he did not give due consideration to his decision.

 

This is by no means the first time errors of judgment have been made in matches involving this official and clearly there is an underlying issue which requires to be addressed.

This is the type of of rant that Vlad was crucified by media/SFA for making 10 years ago. Wonder if the SFA will take any action? The media won’t. 

[Don Dan]

49 minutes ago, Footballfirst said:

Statement o'clock at Ibrox Towers, this time about Willie Collum. If only all clubs were able to complain when a nonsensical refereeing decision goes against them, then it might lead to some changes.

https://rangers.co.uk/news/headlines/daniel-candeias/

CLUB RESPONSE TO SCOTTISH FA’S DECISION TO DISMISS OUR APPEAL:

 

RANGERS are extremely disappointed with the decision of the Scottish FA’s Judicial Panel to dismiss our appeal against the second yellow card shown to Daniel Candeias in the closing seconds of last Saturday’s match against St Mirren.

 

Rangers afforded the governing body the opportunity to let common sense prevail and we are surprised they have chosen not to do so by correcting what was, and what remains an inexplicable decision by the match referee, Willie Collum. Rangers shall now seek a fundamental review of the rules relating to red cards which result from two bookings of a player in a game.

 

If one of these decisions is obviously wrong, it must be possible to correct that mistake. It is wrong that players’ livelihoods and careers can be impacted without the opportunity of redress, especially when the official responsible for the miscarriage of justice is allowed to continue as though beyond question or reproach.

It defies belief that this same referee, who got it so blatantly wrong last Saturday, is awarded one of the biggest matches in Scottish football this weekend while Daniel Candeias is denied the right to go to his work. This, frankly, is unacceptable.

 

Furthermore, it is understood that a number of people within the Scottish FA are in no doubt Mr Collum’s judgment was flawed and Rangers shall also now be submitting a formal complaint about the performance of this referee. The manner in which he reacted to an incident involving our player made it obvious he did not give due consideration to his decision.

 

This is by no means the first time errors of judgment have been made in matches involving this official and clearly there is an underlying issue which requires to be addressed.

 

 

Surely they are bringing the game into disrepute by this statement. 

It was nice of Rangers to have “afforded” the governing body a chance to correct their mistake. ?

Edited November 8, 2018 by Dannie Boy

[Mikey1874]

Unless Collum explains his reasons no one can say if the booking was wrong. Lots of assumptions being made. 

[Don Dan]

Rangers were allowed to appeal the decision, despite the rules stating that red cards as a result of double bookings can only be contested in cases of simulation i.e. diving, or mistaken identity.

How come? Would anyone else be allowed to do this?
 

[SUTOL]

4 minutes ago, Dannie Boy said:

Rangers were allowed to appeal the decision, despite the rules stating that red cards as a result of double bookings can only be contested in cases of simulation i.e. diving, or mistaken identity.

How come? Would anyone else be allowed to do this?
 

 

Maybe there appeal was on mistaken identity.

 

 

They should blame their player though for getting booked the first time, for jumping into the crowd.

That's his own fault and no ambiguity about whether he did it or what he did. 

 

 

[Don Dan]

1 minute ago, SUTOL said:

 

Maybe there appeal was on mistaken identity.

 

 

They should blame their player though for getting booked the first time, for jumping into the crowd.

That's his own fault and no ambiguity about whether he did it or what he did. 

 

 

 

Very true.

[Hagar the Horrible]

4 minutes ago, Dannie Boy said:

Rangers were allowed to appeal the decision, despite the rules stating that red cards as a result of double bookings can only be contested in cases of simulation i.e. diving, or mistaken identity.

How come? Would anyone else be allowed to do this?
 

Can we appeal the Hugh Dallas decision when Rangers were in trouble, or Mike being clothedlined at Ibrox, Or any of the multitude of assaults their keeper still gets away with?  Are Rangers becoming the new Celtic, always cheated never defeated?

 

Its a conspiracy?

 

Poor Calamero....sorry Candeias

[Footballfirst]

Disciplinary Rule 72

 

No team official under SFA jurisdiction shall "in any manner likely to lead to publicity (i) criticise the decision(s) and/or performance(s) of any or all match official(s) in such a way as to indicate bias or incompetence on the part of such match official; or (ii) make remarks about such match official(s) which impinge on his character".

 

I think that's the one that Steve Clark was deemed to have violated.

 

I'd suggest that the TRFC statement falls foul of both (i) and (ii).

[Mikey1874]

Part of Kilmarnock's complaint was that other incidents had taken place. Gerrard has criticised decisions. 

[Mikey1874]

In case anyone missed it Carlos Pena is coming back to Rangers after being sacked by his Mexican loan club.

 

 

[NANOJAMBO]

On 07/11/2018 at 17:32, Joey J J Jr Shabadoo said:

When Chelsea were after him and stevie g stayed out of "loyalty"? 

Yes. 

[NANOJAMBO]

On 08/11/2018 at 16:11, Footballfirst said:

Statement o'clock at Ibrox Towers, this time about Willie Collum. If only all clubs were able to complain when a nonsensical refereeing decision goes against them, then it might lead to some changes.

https://rangers.co.uk/news/headlines/daniel-candeias/

CLUB RESPONSE TO SCOTTISH FA’S DECISION TO DISMISS OUR APPEAL:

 

RANGERS are extremely disappointed with the decision of the Scottish FA’s Judicial Panel to dismiss our appeal against the second yellow card shown to Daniel Candeias in the closing seconds of last Saturday’s match against St Mirren.

 

Rangers afforded the governing body the opportunity to let common sense prevail and we are surprised they have chosen not to do so by correcting what was, and what remains an inexplicable decision by the match referee, Willie Collum. Rangers shall now seek a fundamental review of the rules relating to red cards which result from two bookings of a player in a game.

 

If one of these decisions is obviously wrong, it must be possible to correct that mistake. It is wrong that players’ livelihoods and careers can be impacted without the opportunity of redress, especially when the official responsible for the miscarriage of justice is allowed to continue as though beyond question or reproach.

It defies belief that this same referee, who got it so blatantly wrong last Saturday, is awarded one of the biggest matches in Scottish football this weekend while Daniel Candeias is denied the right to go to his work. This, frankly, is unacceptable.

 

Furthermore, it is understood that a number of people within the Scottish FA are in no doubt Mr Collum’s judgment was flawed and Rangers shall also now be submitting a formal complaint about the performance of this referee. The manner in which he reacted to an incident involving our player made it obvious he did not give due consideration to his decision.

 

This is by no means the first time errors of judgment have been made in matches involving this official and clearly there is an underlying issue which requires to be addressed.

By any chance, is  there a court case involving Scotland's newest senior club pending ? 

 

That briefing is dripping with arrogance and a sense of entitlement. 

[RobNox]

On 06/11/2018 at 23:30, Mysterion said:

Surprised not to see any reference to SwissRamble after his Rangers finance tweets today.

 

Here’s the link (lots of info and graphs)

https://twitter.com/swissramble/status/1059723979496263680?s=21

 

Some interesting info.

 

I presume the £2.4m debt that we have is the money owed to Bidco, which will be paid by FoH, so won't come out of our revenues.  Presumably also the £4m debt at Hibs is the money they owe STF, and which is being repaid at £500k per annum, out of Hibs revenues.  The Hibs numbers are from last year's accounts, so presumably their debt will be down to £3.5m this year.

 

That means that by the time FoH has repaid Bidco around the end of next season, Hibs will still have £2.5m to repay STF, costing them £500k per annum for another 5 years.  Meanwhile we will have the benefit of up to £1.5m per annum from FoH to supplement our income.

[Footballfirst]

Lady Wolffe's latest ruling on the competency of a contempt charge goes against King.

 

https://www.scotcourts.gov.uk/docs/default-source/cos-general-docs/pdf-docs-for-opinions/2018csoh105.pdf?sfvrsn=0

 

In the instant proceedings, a very full procedure has been adopted: the respondent has had due notice of the alleged contempt (in the form of the minute) and has had opportunity to respond (in the form of answers). Further, the proof to follow will be indistinguishable from a full proof in a commercial action and all of the procedures, safeguards and formalities that that entails. In my view, the procedural argument is without merit.
 

Decision
[79] The respondent’s plea to the competency falls to be repelled. I shall reserve meantime all question of expenses

 

An appeal to the Inner House of the Court of Session is due to be heard on Friday

[jambovambo]

Excellent news.