jambovambo Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 Phil predicts ... https://www.philmacgiollabhain.ie/serious-professional-disagreement/#more-8815 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Grimes Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 Phil predicts ... https://www.philmacgiollabhain.ie/serious-professional-disagreement/#more-8815 That's even more unreadable than normal... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malinga the Swinga Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 TBF to the board, there may be one lunatic and one crook on the boad but there are some decent Rangers men who have put a lot of their own money in and who stand to lose a fortune. How anyone thought it was a good idea to support a King led concert party must need their head examined. He , of course, has put nothing in and I wouldn't be surprised if he tries negotiate a "walking away deal" with the board because no one will go near that club/board while King is around. Shame. Nope, disagree. There are no decent Rangers/Sevco supporters. Those that have put money in are simply knuckle dragging bigots who have more money, they are not decent or else they would put a stop to the bile that spews forth every home game. That they sit and do nothing makes them as guilty as those singing the banned songs. If they lose all the money invested, then I have no sympathy because they believed a convicted criminal would bring glory to a new club, and they have no one to blame but themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malinga the Swinga Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 That's even more unreadable than normal... nope, it really isn't. Financial director struggling to meet payroll while King and chums hide away from meetings and deflect blame for chaos elsewhere. If they had stuck with Ashley, who has real money, then they may have been better off. See pretty easy really. We will never know of course, but thems the choices you make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lincon Premier Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 Nope, disagree. There are no decent Rangers/Sevco supporters. Those that have put money in are simply knuckle dragging bigots who have more money, they are not decent or else they would put a stop to the bile that spews forth every home game. That they sit and do nothing makes them as guilty as those singing the banned songs. If they lose all the money invested, then I have no sympathy because they believed a convicted criminal would bring glory to a new club, and they have no one to blame but themselves. 100% correct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alicante jambo Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 Nope, disagree. There are no decent Rangers/Sevco supporters. Those that have put money in are simply knuckle dragging bigots who have more money, they are not decent or else they would put a stop to the bile that spews forth every home game. That they sit and do nothing makes them as guilty as those singing the banned songs. If they lose all the money invested, then I have no sympathy because they believed a convicted criminal would bring glory to a new club, and they have no one to blame but themselves. Great post malinga Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETTY29 Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 nope, it really isn't. Financial director struggling to meet payroll while King and chums hide away from meetings and deflect blame for chaos elsewhere. If they had stuck with Ashley, who has real money, then they may have been better off. See pretty easy really. We will never know of course, but thems the choices you make. Their Financial Director is Andrew Dickson, EBT holder, EBT administrator and once Head of Football Admin who was responsible that all player remuneration packages document were lodged with SPFL and SFA within 14 days of them being signed, amended. He was also responsible for keeping the SFA fully up t date on Rangers social tax affairs and signing off that Rangers met all licensing commitments. He also sat on the SFA Licensing Committee. Hope is sweating more than anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboz Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 Nope, disagree. There are no decent Rangers/Sevco supporters. Those that have put money in are simply knuckle dragging bigots who have more money, they are not decent or else they would put a stop to the bile that spews forth every home game. That they sit and do nothing makes them as guilty as those singing the banned songs. If they lose all the money invested, then I have no sympathy because they believed a convicted criminal would bring glory to a new club, and they have no one to blame but themselves. Post of the week!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobNox Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 Phil predicts ... https://www.philmacgiollabhain.ie/serious-professional-disagreement/#more-8815 The one thing that is undoubtedly true in that piece is that Rangers February payroll is due next week. At least the Warburton management team will presumably only receive a pro-rata payment up until last Monday, when they apparently handed in their resignations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
...a bit disco Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 John James takes another potshot... Despite Celtic winning 6-0 against their ?bogey team? ICT, the prevailing narrative is being dominated by The Warburton Hokey Cokey. There are those who believe this situation is as transparent as mud. Allow me to edify them. Robertson sat down with Dave Lockwood on Monday. His objective was to seamlessly remove Warburton, Weir and McParland from their duties. He inquired whether Nottingham Forest would be prepared to hire their wayward manager and his sidekick. McParland?s dismissal was non-negotiable. To facilitate and expedite matters, Robertson was prepared to waive any compensation from Forest. Robertson had evidently received instructions to make this offer from Dave King. At this point Lockwood thanked Robertson for his time and arranged a follow up meeting for later in the week to give him some time to brief his clients and solicit their responses. Resignation was not on the table at any time. By the time they sat down for a second meeting, the Forest opportunity had gone south. Warburton was prepared to continue until such time as an offer from another club became available. King was not prepared to accept this. He instructed Robertson to push for their resignations. When Lockwood protested that this was not within his gift, the meeting came to an abrupt end. King then made a unilateral decision to dismiss Warburton by faking his resignation. His objective was to avoid paying ?1.2m in compensation. He then briefed Jim Traynor to peddle the lie that Warburton had resigned on Monday when nothing could be further from the truth. Warburton had diligently undertaken his duties while wheels were turning in the background. King achieved the desired result, but everyone knows that he has pulled a fast one and will be hoist by his own petard when an employment tribunal rips him a new one. This debacle, the latest in a long line of omnishambles that go back to the failed 48 hour appointment of a director in March 2015, was not unexpected. King is a convicted career criminal. He should have no part to play in any UK plc. Not one NOMAD was prepared to work with the glib and shameless perjurer due to his 41 convictions for tax evasion and his three month suspended sentence for lying in another court. King has no respect whatsoever for the law, including employment law. He masquerades as an accountant, despite receiving no more than a leaving certificate when he left school at 16. He is not an educated man. He is white trailer park trash; pond scum in a tailored suit. He has bribed, lied and cheated his way in the world in a turbulent environment where the rule of law was a moveable feast. He has no sense of right or wrong. He lives by a mantra of shaft or be shafted. He has shafted Warburton, Weir & McParland. No amount of spin from fellow liar Jim Traynor can change these prosaic facts. If King had one gram of integrity he would fall on his sword. He cannot even spell integrity. As Traynor engages in black propaganda to tarnish Warburton?s reputation, the unedifying spectacle of choosing a successor is in full swing. I revealed that Billy Davies had been tapped up to take the job, on a probationary basis until the close season. This information was provided by John Gilligan when imbibing an ?up to my knees in Fenian blood? Bloody Mary at The Louden Tavern, where most of the regulars are on parole or arrive on horseback. However, Alex McLeish has now thrown his hat in the ring. He has been unemployed since May 2 of last year after an unsuccessful 10 games in charge of Egyptian team, Zamalek SC. He is a guy who has been on a down slope of a career for the best part of a decade. He should hang his head in shame for his abject failure in an Egyptian backwater stadium that had a capacity of 16,000, all of whom were baying for his blood. But shame does not register with Alex McLeish. His ?1.7m EBT included the ?gift? of a luxurious apartment in The West End of Glasgow. He admitted that if it were not for EBT his charges would not have won the title in 2003. However his admission of dual contract cheating would be no impediment to a coaching position with Rangers. All one requires is a brass neck, asbestos gloves and an ability to work in a burning building. As Kenny Macintyre and Richard Wilson cried in their beer last night on Radio Scotland, they urged King to pay Aberdeen the ?700,000-?800,000 required to release McInnes. King, Murray & Gilligan don?t have enough twigs to spark a fire, never mind pay the thick end of a cool million. Stupidity is not the exclusive preserve of Radio Scotland. Hugh Keevins. who has been getting by on the same soundbites for the best part of two decades, opined that Our Eck might demur as he would not wish to risk his reputation. Would that be the same reputation that saw him summarily sacked from a provincial Egyptian club? Keevins must have been playing to the gullibillies who frequent his show.He often does. No self-respecting manager would go anywhere near King and his rogue board. This is an opportunity for the unemployed and the unemployable. All we need now is for Barry V Ferguson to toss his hat into the ring. In an EBT pissing contest his ?2.5m gives him first dibs on the Ibrox electric chair. When all else fails, send in the clown. https://johnjamessite.com/2017/02/14/the-ibrox-electric-chair/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August Landmesser Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 John James takes another potshot... Great description of King in that piece - definitely a Proper Rainjurs Man. I would Kevin Keegan it if they got Barry the Crab in as manager though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
...a bit disco Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 Great description of King in that piece - definitely a Proper Rainjurs Man. I would Kevin Keegan it if they got Barry the Crab in as manager though... Bummer Broon as his assistant. The Dream Team! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 Great description of King in that piece - definitely a Proper Rainjurs Man. I would Kevin Keegan it if they got Barry the Crab in as manager though... And just to think they told a real billionaire to GTF and ended up with the lying king instead. Just proves that the common garden variety orc isn't the most clever of sub-species. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busby1985 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 New drinking game. Every time you hear or read a piece about Rangers, you take a shot every time someone says "proper Rangers man or men". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 And just to think they told a real billionaire to GTF and ended up with the lying king instead. Just proves that the common garden variety orc isn't the most clever of sub-species. Two actually, Ashley plus the yank that wasn't rangers enough! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo dans les Pyrenees Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 Bummer Broon as his assistant. The Dream Team! It's at times like these, that proapur Rainjurs men most long for the times that Uncle Wattie sat in the stand and used his first team coach, Iain I could have been world class if I hadn't been tackled badly once Durrant as a punchbag. The deluded fools. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 John James article was interesting and the sequence makes sense. But he's having a wet dream thinking there will be an employment tribunal. If the case is that clear they'll be forced to a settlement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XB52 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 John James takes another potshot... https://johnjamessite.com/2017/02/14/the-ibrox-electric-chair/ Wow, that is fantastic reading (assuming it's true). He certainly doesn't hold back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
...a bit disco Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 John James article was interesting and the sequence makes sense. But he's having a wet dream thinking there will be an employment tribunal. If the case is that clear they'll be forced to a settlement. Knowing what Rangers are like though he might have to threaten King into submission by instigating one though. All in all, happy days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETTY29 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 Alex Smith was on the radio saying along the lines that Warburton needs to step away and allow the legal process to follow it's natural route with a view to both parties seeking a mutual agreement as soon as possible. This will also allow the whoever the new Rangers manger is the opportunity to be fully focused on getting on with the job. PMcG now tweeting representatives of the 3 have sent a letter to Rangers with a potential sequence of legal events. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambovambo Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 John James article was interesting and the sequence makes sense. But he's having a wet dream thinking there will be an employment tribunal. If the case is that clear they'll be forced to a settlement. Yep, steps-of-court job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
269miles Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 Knowing what Rangers are like though he might have to threaten King into submission by instigating one though. All in all, happy days. I can't see how they can win anything unless they go through a tribunal. I can't see any reason why Sevco will offer to settle. King had made his position clear and with his reputation , he won't back down IMO. First steps, win the tribunal. Second step seize assets to get paid. Sevco have no cash to pay this and King must be hoping he will have sold his shares and moved on before this comes to a conclusion. The only reason (IMO) they have been sacked is to slash the wage bill - ergo , there is nothing to pay them. Unless they delay it until next year's ST money rolls in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzzbomb1958 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 Rumours abound that sevco are struggling to make February wage bill,looks like the begging bowl will be passed around again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 I can't see how they can win anything unless they go through a tribunal. I can't see any reason why Sevco will offer to settle. King had made his position clear and with his reputation , he won't back down IMO. First steps, win the tribunal. Second step seize assets to get paid. Sevco have no cash to pay this and King must be hoping he will have sold his shares and moved on before this comes to a conclusion. The only reason (IMO) they have been sacked is to slash the wage bill - ergo , there is nothing to pay them. Unless they delay it until next year's ST money rolls in. Announcing a settlement is not a major humiliation for King. If it's obvious they didn't resign then lawyers will advise settlement. Simple. Maybe a macho way to deal with things last week but they can make it a good news story with some spin about getting a director of football (already in press) and new guys in meantime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 Two actually, Ashley plus the yank that wasn't rangers enough! Your right, I'd forgot about the yank, didn't he get threatening emails from the great unwashed? They really are as thick as mince aren't they? They tell not one but two real billionaires to GTF and end up with the likes of Chuckles & King. If there ever was a movie to be made about the last 4 years, the script would get turned down for being way too far fetched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamboelite Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 Why settle if King has no stand point then lawyers will instruct the three to go for the full amount. King may we say yes to full payment eventually but the press release must say a settlement had been agreed and everyone is told to keep quiet. Not sure what King gains here if he doesnt have a leg to stand on then all he is doing is adding legal costs to the payment and delaying the inevitable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 Why settle if King has no stand point then lawyers will instruct the three to go for the full amount. King may we say yes to full payment eventually but the press release must say a settlement had been agreed and everyone is told to keep quiet. Not sure what King gains here if he doesnt have a leg to stand on then all he is doing is adding legal costs to the payment and delaying the inevitable. Maybe King isn't planning on being around long enough for a court case, in which case it'll be someone else's problem. Didn't chuckles do similar with the contracts with Ashley, he knew he'd be long gone by the time the preverbal hit the fan, so therefore not his problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJGJ Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 It is in the interests of the sacked employee to reach a settlement should they be hoping to obtain employment soon. It's partly about income and having a new job before any agreement could lessen any pay out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Z Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 It is in the interests of the sacked employee to reach a settlement should they be hoping to obtain employment soon. It's partly about income and having a new job before any agreement could lessen any pay out. I don't see why, when the lion's share of the claim here will be the amount specified in the buyout clause. Mitigating your losses through obtaining new employment has nothing to do with a fixed value like a buyout, just your day-to-day wage, which will be a tiny fraction of any claim made against Sevco. Since the focus is the buyout not being paid, with day-to-day wage of far less importance, the amount of time that passes will have next to no practical impact on the amounts of the managerial staff's damages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 It's in the interests of Warburton to get what he is due. He has some powerful voices on his side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizmo Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 Why settle if King has no stand point then lawyers will instruct the three to go for the full amount. King may we say yes to full payment eventually but the press release must say a settlement had been agreed and everyone is told to keep quiet. Not sure what King gains here if he doesnt have a leg to stand on then all he is doing is adding legal costs to the payment and delaying the inevitable. I wonder if Warburton will make a claim above the wages (and that unpaid bonus if that was true) for his reputation being damaged by this. What King gains, right now, is kicking any payout to the management team into the long grass and making it look like he is aware of the demands of the unwashed. He has one eye on the payroll issue and one eye on the season ticket sales. He most certainly cannot sell them on another bogus claim of "going for 55"! This is all about short-term survival, with King seeing their only survival route some European qualification and run. That is far from a certainty, surely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alicante jambo Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 Dramatic day at rangers headline on sky sports news ill report when i.sed what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 STV claiming Rangers will go down the DoF route. https://stv.tv/sport/football/1380749-rangers-will-appoint-director-of-football-after-warburton-exit/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxteth O'Grady Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 STV claiming Rangers will go down the DoF route. https://stv.tv/sport/football/1380749-rangers-will-appoint-director-of-football-after-warburton-exit/ They need somebody to pick the team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alicante jambo Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 Confirm they will go down DOF route.Been inundated with applications for job.Load of garbage really hardly dramatic news jim white. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 Lets Rangers start again. Positive before season tickets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milky_26 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 STV claiming Rangers will go down the DoF route. https://stv.tv/sport/football/1380749-rangers-will-appoint-director-of-football-after-warburton-exit/ but but but, we've been told many times that model does not work in this country Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jodami Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 It is in the interests of the sacked employee to reach a settlement should they be hoping to obtain employment soon. It's partly about income and having a new job before any agreement could lessen any pay out. I take it you are accepting that they were actually sacked then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juan Jose Carricondo Perez Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 I wonder if the media dinosaurs will still question a DoF role in football now that one if their beloved is going down that route! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanks Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 Maybe they are going to go down the 'made redundant' route? Would explain the sudden support for a director of football and 'head coach' approach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJGJ Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 The truth hurts but then again most of the time you would not know what the truth is Educate is my mantra but you are a tough cookie. Still I'll keep trying whilst you post your fantasies on this subject Still waiting on Rangers going bust but you keep telling the world it's true....you and the other Celtic fans have been found out as talking rubbish but are not brave enough to admit it so attack anyone who dares to pull you up Oh and just for those looking in it's not pro Rangers to post the truth...it's just the truth like it or not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJGJ Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 I take it you are accepting that they were actually sacked then. Why are you asking me ? You can read a statement just as I can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another Robbo Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 Why settle if King has no stand point then lawyers will instruct the three to go for the full amount. King may we say yes to full payment eventually but the press release must say a settlement had been agreed and everyone is told to keep quiet. Not sure what King gains here if he doesnt have a leg to stand on then all he is doing is adding legal costs to the payment and delaying the inevitable. Assuming the plan all along was to ditch Warburton then King may have just succeeded in delaying paying him off until the season ticket money comes in.This would also allow him to point the finger at Warburton for not getting to 55 and sell the fans on the dream this will happen next year now they have a DOF. There may also be some facts that have not emerged yet that makes King think he has a decent chance of winning any case against him. Or anything really...this isn't called a soap opera for nothing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deevers Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 STV claiming Rangers will go down the DoF route. https://stv.tv/sport/football/1380749-rangers-will-appoint-director-of-football-after-warburton-exit/ Bet your bottom dollar it will be someone cheap and desperate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 I think the biggest risk to Rangers at the moment will be if the Ibrox 3 go to court and seek to ring fence the quoted ?1.2m compensation plus any other outstanding payments, e.g. Warbarton's claimed ?500K bonus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 I think the biggest risk to Rangers at the moment will be if the Ibrox 3 go to court and seek to ring fence the quoted ?1.2m compensation plus any other outstanding payments, e.g. Warbarton's claimed ?500K bonus. Rangers should settle The English League Managers Association, reported to be helping / representing Warburton will take Rangers all the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 They have no jurisdiction in Scotland . Just need to assist. Negotiating a settlement doesn't need to be someone living in Scotland. Can fund the best lawyers. Warburton's union. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonbe110 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 Bet your bottom dollar it will be someone cheap and desperate.Bomber! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeftBack Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 STV claiming Rangers will go down the DoF route. https://stv.tv/sport/football/1380749-rangers-will-appoint-director-of-football-after-warburton-exit/ On BBC coverage: Managing director Stewart Robertson says the club have not spoken to anyone about the manager's job and that they "want to be a modern football club". But what about the bygone days of yore? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jodami Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 Why are you asking me ? You can read a statement just as I can. I asked you because you mentioned sacking in your post. I read your statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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