Guest Bilel Mohsni Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 I've never liked Ally McCoist... I ken loads of folk think he's some kind of hero and shit, but I've always thought he was a ridiculous parody of Scotland and football. I want Sevco to fail, because I despise them, but... I also despise the filthy deranged Orcs from Govan... Go figure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeylandJambo Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 I've never liked Ally McCoist... I ken loads of folk think he's some kind of hero and shit, but I've always thought he was a ridiculous parody of Scotland and football. I want Sevco to fail, because I despise them, but... I also despise the filthy deranged Orcs from Govan... Go figure I find myself agreeing with everything you've said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paolo Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 I've never liked Ally McCoist... I ken loads of folk think he's some kind of hero and shit, but I've always thought he was a ridiculous parody of Scotland and football. I want Sevco to fail, because I despise them, but... I also despise the filthy deranged Orcs from Govan... Go figure Cheeky chappie = ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tartofmidlothian Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 Cheeky chappie = ****. The Rangers situation doesn't make me as annoyed as it did two years ago, they've been punished to a pretty heavy extent and financially dealt a big blow. Got a fair amount of respect for the fans who have stuck by them, in fact. I'm happy to see them head as far up shit creek as possible if it helps us out next season, though, and McCoist is the most objectionable thing about them by a mile at the moment. Hopefully his staying there next season also works in our favour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 (edited) I'll stick neck out and predict the fans will slowly slowly work towards fan ownership as part of establishing RFC as a credible club. Its time, long overdue Rangers (okay...new club etc I know) came into the 21st century to be a force for good in Scotland. I'm actually not sure now whether being a "sectarian" club (allegedly) isn't now no longer the worst thing about them now they are Spiv Central. With us as developing role models and many "decent" (I'm guessing being out of touch now) fans surely disgusted by the last 2 years maybe we'll see some change. Over to you Gers fans. Edited February 22, 2014 by Mikey1874 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paolo Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 I'll stick neck out and predict the fans will slowly slowly work towards fan ownership as part of establishing RFC as a credible club. Its time, ling overdue Rangers (okay...new club etc I know) came into the 21st century to be a force for good in Scotland. I'm actually not sure now whether being a "sectarian" club (allegedly) isn't now no longer the worst thing about them now they are Spiv Central. With us as developing role models and many "decent" (I'm guessing being out of touch now) fans surely disgusted by the last 2 years maybe we'll see some change. Over to you Gers fans. The problem is, they think it is their right to win trophies and challenge Celtic, even if it means trampling over everyone else in the process and outspending everyone else. They will have difficulty achieving this with fan ownership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 The problem is, they think it is their right to win trophies and challenge Celtic, even if it means trampling over everyone else in the process and outspending everyone else. They will have difficulty achieving this with fan ownership. Indeed. That's the main issue in the way. They need to address that one but I agree with you - most likely they'll be seduced by "success". But as much as I dislike the old firm the potential exists for them to be a great club and if fan ownership is the future they could be the biggest to do it around here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Brown Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 BBC website, don't understand wat resolutions 9 & 10 mean but the fans are certainly wising up to it all. ST sales are going to be intersting, very muc catch-22 situattion. "Rangers fans groups have sought assurances about the club's future after it was announced that they are aiming to borrow ?1.5m. Chief executive Graham Wallace told the club website that the funds for working capital were not an indication of a threat of a second administration. But the Rangers Supporters Association, Assembly and Trust have asked Wallace for clarification. They say he had claimed at their annual meeting they had sufficient funds. Responding to the proposed loan by directors and/or selected shareholders, the fans groups said in a statement: "It is of great concern that, at the club's AGM in December 2013, Graham advised there was sufficient cash in the business for the club to be able to continue to trade in the short to medium term - yet two months later, we require a loan for working capital. "We would also like assurances that the club have explored all options for attracting fresh investment and this is the best deal available to the club. "On the day that the club launched a survey on listening to fans, they have ignored shareholding fans' overwhelming opposition to resolutions nine and 10 at the club AGM. "Resolution nine seems to be being used to increase the influence of certain shareholders without affording the same option to others, which is an affront to shareholder democracy and rights." The supporters' concerns relate to the ability, stated in resolution nine , of the directors "to allot relevant securities...up to an aggregate nominal amount of ?217,000...and up to an aggregate nominal amount of ?66,000 to employees and directors... and comprising equity securities up to an aggregate nominal amount of ?434,000." Resolution 10 refers to the empowerment of directors to allot "equity securities and sale of treasury shares for cash...by way of a rights issue only...in favour of holders of Ordinary Shares in the capital of the Company and to holders of any other equity securities as required by the rights of those securities or as the Directors otherwise consider necessary". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETTY29 Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 (edited) The problem is, they think it is their right to win trophies and challenge Celtic, even if it means trampling over everyone else in the process and outspending everyone else. They will have difficulty achieving this with fan ownership. Id be concerned about what fan ownership at Ibrox would mean for the Scottish game. Reading FF Wallace comments, he (Wallace) had to get 'Irish based blogger' into his statement. Naturally while factually correct, there was no need for such a comment. Another guy who in any other part of his life probably wouldnt give two hoots about nationality but knows he has to play to the masses. I just can only see things getting worse under fans ownership. Edited February 22, 2014 by DETTY29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davieholt Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 "We would also like assurances that the club have explored all options for attracting fresh investment and this is the best deal available to the club." They still don't get it. Still clinging to the belief that there is a white knight out there willing to financially stiff himself in the orc cause ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Grimes Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 Its time, long overdue Rangers (okay...new club etc I know) came into the 21st century to be a force for good in Scotland. I'm actually not sure now whether being a "sectarian" club (allegedly) isn't now no longer the worst thing about them now they are Spiv Central. Its still the worst thing about them by a long way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
269miles Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 BBC website, don't understand wat resolutions 9 & 10 mean but the fans are certainly wising up to it all. ST sales are going to be intersting, very muc catch-22 situattion. "We would also like assurances that the club have explored all options for attracting fresh investment and this is the best deal available to the club. . This is the club that banks with Metro Bank (who they ?) because no one else will touch them with a barge pole. If the directors didn't loan them the dosh who would ? They probably couldn't get a secured loan from a "normal" financial institution given the legal spat over who owns the stadium. Sevco fans are beyond stupid now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al_hearts65 Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 It makes me more grateful everday for the work of FOH and the financial support of Ann Budge and the nearly 8000 pledgers that our great club will come through our administration without this kind of baggage. Thank you one and all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Swanson Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 Plucky minnows "The Rangers" hold out for a 3:3 draw against the mighty Stenhousemuir ... Hmfc the team for me ... Will save a bit of money this week with the ref having to hand back his penalty bonus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Swanson Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 (edited) Oops Edited February 22, 2014 by hogsonmaman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deevers Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 Loans from dodgy money lenders at extortionate interest rates prob made them go cap in hand to Laxey & the kray twins for a bailout. The D.record can print all the crap they want, but white collar Fc Newco fans know how disturbing their finances really are if their going down this road to raise working capital.. The record calling it a "windfall".. Now that is a parody on payday loan... Ha ha Hmfc the team for me ... No doubt there will be a hefty rate of interest on the loans they've managed to acquire. Question is - will these be repaid from the next season ticket sale? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil D. Corners Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 Plucky minnows "The Rangers" hold out for a 3:3 draw against the mighty Stenhousemuir ... Hmfc the team for me ... A win for the Pars brings the gap down to 21 points. Might delay any potental Admin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJGJ Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 I suspect those loans may be repaid in shares (on the quiet). The more shares Laxey achieve the better because they are real asset strippers .. They are to be converted to shares later which will strengthen the grip the current regime have................However there are questions as to whether they have the authority to do so based on the AGM and the clauses undertaken which were supposed to limit the issue of such shares without all people being able to bid/obtain the shares not just those in control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konrad von Carstein Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 He'll no be popular with his brothers in ayrshire the night .. While it may be tongue in cheek, that tweet says EVERYTHING, about the game here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil D. Corners Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 There won't be an admin event during this season now imho.. Hmfc the team for me ... Meh. Got to agree. My comment was more an observation. Personally think rangers losses were due to spiv payments and things will look better in the next accounts. But I know nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konrad von Carstein Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 'sake THIS is what is wrong with the game in Scotland, I really thought it was some numpty having laugh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory House M.D. Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 Yeah, referee's in other countries are avid rugby fans with no football ties. Somehow, I think on a scale of things that are wrong with scottish football, this is down there with the lack of lobster in the kiosks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konrad von Carstein Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 You are a worse poster than Winnie....true story....Self 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory House M.D. Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 If you choose to believe that an amateur referee making a tongue in cheek remark about a professional referee is "everything that is wrong with the game" then that is your Perogative. It certainly wouldn't top my list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_jambo Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 Nearly all our refs support Rangers or Celtic. Deal with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deevers Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 Oh it's not tongue in cheek, he meant it alright. Here he is in his Fc Newco top.. He's a referee remember. He's now locked his twitter, but too late. Ha ha.. Hmfc the team for me ... He's obviously looking to be fast tracked onto the senior list! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i wish jj was my dad Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 (edited) While it may be tongue in cheek, that tweet says EVERYTHING, about the game here! Spot on. Doubt this will be reported in MSM though. Edited February 23, 2014 by i wish jj was my dad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boof Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 Just wait until Morrison gets fast-tracked now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gigolo-Aunt Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 Oh it's not tongue in cheek, he meant it alright. Here he is in his Fc Newco top.. He's a referee remember. He's now locked his twitter, but too late. Ha ha.. Hmfc the team for me ... That's a lovely strip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bilel Mohsni Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 That's a lovely strip. It's the Motherwell strip in Rangers' colours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gigolo-Aunt Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 Colours can make a football strip. Its in my top 3 Rangers tops. The one with the Escape to Victory ties at the neck from around 1997 was the best though - a cracker of a football top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bilel Mohsni Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 Colours can make a football strip. Its in my top 3 Rangers tops. The one with the Escape to Victory ties at the neck from around 1997 was the best though - a cracker of a football top. Aye, okay Gig, seeing as you're not trolling or anything man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tartofmidlothian Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 Loyalties aside, did he not give Stenny a pen to deny Rangers full points? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gigolo-Aunt Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sterling Archer Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 The majority of people support Rangers and Celtic, it's not exactly surprising if the majority of referees do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.J Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 The majority of people support Rangers and Celtic, it's not exactly surprising if the majority of referees do. It's fair to say that each and every one of us have a preference between the two clubs, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sterling Archer Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 It's fair to say that each and every one of us have a preference between the two clubs, too. Absolutely. What fun is it if you only support a shite team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davieholt Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 It's fair to say that each and every one of us have a preference between the two clubs, too. Really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sterling Archer Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 Really? You're kidding? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.J Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 Really? Everyone I know does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 (edited) The appeal by HMRC to the UTTT re the "big tax case" starts tomorrow and is due to last for around four weeks. http://www.justice.gov.uk/downloads/tribunals/tax-and-chancery-upper-tribunal-/hearings-register.pdf (see pages 13-15, Each of the Murray group companies is listed separately) The tribunal is being held in public in HMRC's offices at 126 George Street so feel free to go along. I might go along later in the week. It is interesting that Judge Colin Bisopp who leads the tribunal was in the news last week when he ruled on Chris Moyles tax evasion scheme. Here is his report from the preliminary hearing last year. http://www.bailii.or...TCC/2013/B6.pdf Edited February 23, 2014 by Footballfirst Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davieholt Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 Nope. Detest them both equally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bilel Mohsni Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 Nope. Detest them both equally Me too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 The appeal by HMRC to the UTTT re the "big tax case" starts tomorrow and is due to last for around four weeks. http://www.justice.g...gs-register.pdf (see pages 13-15, Each of the Murray group companies is listed separately) The tribunal is being held in public in HMRC's offices at 126 George Street so feel free to go along. I might go along later in the week. It is interesting that Judge Colin Bisopp who leads the tribunal was in the news last week when he ruled on Chris Moyles tax evasion scheme. Here is his report from the preliminary hearing last year. http://www.bailii.or...TCC/2013/B6.pdf Waw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TyphoonJambo Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 It's fair to say that each and every one of us have a preference between the two clubs, too. Sorry but I'm out!!! They both disgust me equally. I would quite honestly rather fist my own Ass, double handed and dry before I admitted any allegiance to either of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musemic Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 Nope. Detest them both equally this for me too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davieholt Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 The appeal by HMRC to the UTTT re the "big tax case" starts tomorrow and is due to last for around four weeks. http://www.justice.g...gs-register.pdf (see pages 13-15, Each of the Murray group companies is listed separately) The tribunal is being held in public in HMRC's offices at 126 George Street so feel free to go along. I might go along later in the week. It is interesting that Judge Colin Bisopp who leads the tribunal was in the news last week when he ruled on Chris Moyles tax evasion scheme. Here is his report from the preliminary hearing last year. http://www.bailii.or...TCC/2013/B6.pdf FF what, if any, are the implications to The Rangers or the game generally if HMRC win the appeal? I can see things getting hot for Murray, MIM and, perhaps, some teams down south who allegedly used EBTs but am I missing something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 Everyone I know does. I so miss their clashes. They define football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.J Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 I so miss their clashes. They define football Exactly, Geoff. A lot of people flat out lying to themselves on this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Currahee! Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 Nope. Detest them both equally This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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