mutley Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 Do people still read his shite? He's clueless. He certainly knows nowt about lifts. Never worked at ibrox but surely they can just upgrade the control panel and door operator if required. Keeping the old car, machine, guides etc. and as for the bit about the wiring? Peanuts in the grand scale of things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sam Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 He certainly knows nowt about lifts. Never worked at ibrox but surely they can just upgrade the control panel and door operator if required. Keeping the old car, machine, guides etc. and as for the bit about the wiring? Peanuts in the grand scale of thingsI think whoever his source is just feeds him pish to see if he is stupid enough to believe it. Either that or he makes it up as he goes along. His blogs seem to be getting more ridiculous the longer all this rangers nonsense continues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamboelite Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 There was some talk of major safety concerns about the Club Deck there. Has it been open this season? I would doubt that Ashley would see spending lots of money on Ibrox as a good investment. I would suggest if Bertie can get a safety cert then it unlikely the Club deck has any real issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We_are_the_Hearts Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 Boyd will score 50 goals, Ashley will pump his billions in, etc. common theme here. Your not Rangers any more!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Usf266r Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 I'm going to make a point of swerving this thread now.no criticism of those who contribute however i'm exhausted with the ups and downs.it's so drawn out and only consistent in its inconsistencies.i'll just believe it when it's confirmed in the news,if ever.it's like waiting on jr ewing getting what's due,so my big sister tells me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 I'm going to make a point of swerving this thread now.no criticism of those who contribute however i'm exhausted with the ups and downs.it's so drawn out and only consistent in its inconsistencies.i'll just believe it when it's confirmed in the news,if ever.it's like waiting on jr ewing getting what's due,so my big sister tells me. Not sure what you are waiting on. They would be bust now had it not been for Ashley's emergency funding. The question is whether that continues and the SFA turn a blind eye to the restrictions they tried to impose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jock _turd Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 According to "The Herald" Ally has been given the nod to scout for new talent in the January transfer window! I thought they had money problems down ibrox way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feeno Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 According to "The Herald" Ally has been given the nod to scout for new talent in the January transfer window! I thought they had money problems down ibrox way? Need to try everything and anything to keep those crowds up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 According to "The Herald" Ally has been given the nod to scout for new talent in the January transfer window! I thought they had money problems down ibrox way?You think they will be buying without selling? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sam Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 Super Salary admits to liquidation. http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/kids-keep-sane-protect-trolls-4722012 Ally talking pish again as I'm pretty sure they kept loads of there players. Sounds to me he is trying to make out that it's been much harder for them than us. When in reality they have the 2nd biggest budget in scottish football and it's his poor management and lack of any imagination in the transfer market that is hindering them this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zico Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 According to "The Herald" Ally has been given the nod to scout for new talent in the January transfer window! I thought they had money problems down ibrox way?Wee Stevie's getting Champ Man 15 for his Christmas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamboman1512 Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 Wee Stevie's getting Champ Man 15 for his Christmas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
portobellojambo1 Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 (edited) There was some talk of major safety concerns about the Club Deck there. Has it been open this season? I would doubt that Ashley would see spending lots of money on Ibrox as a good investment. It could explain where this Irishman is getting his figure from, of around ?18 million, which was the approximate cost of installing the club deck at Ibrox (sure, a major part of the costing was equipment which had to be brought in for the installation, have some recollection that specialist equipment was needed which was located, at the time, in South America). Take the original cost, replicate it in an up to date story, stick it in print and it will sell to at least half of the OF divide. The only reason Ashley would upgrade the stadium would be if the intention was to continue to use it as a football/sporting arena. I would think that if he is simply looking to make money it would go to the highest bidder for the land in the event of a sale scenario, irrespective of what the buyers intended using said land for. Edited November 30, 2014 by portobellojambo1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holyrood_Hearts Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 There was some talk of major safety concerns about the Club Deck there. Has it been open this season? I would doubt that Ashley would see spending lots of money on Ibrox as a good investment. It was definitely open for the Scotland v Georgia game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutchmul Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 Re the state of Ibrokes, part of the roof fell down during a game last season(google it), fortunately no one was hurt. They have done no work on it for over 3 years other than work that absolutely needed to be done. This is a building that is open to the elements so you scrimp on maintenance at your peril, look at what the budge said about the work required at tynecastle, so is the 18/20 million figure realistic? possibly It's no secret that it is in a poor state, how poor? Well, that's always a guess unless you have access to surveyors reports and maintenance records. There have always been rumours about asbestos in some of the stands, if that's true and major maintenance/repairs are required, that adds a massive cost onto the bill. Mike ashley is only in this for what he can get from the retail side, he has no interest in buying the club. Once he gets what he wants, sown up watertight, he'll be offski. Re sevco signing players in january? they'll be lucky to hold onto the players they already have. They are burning through cash, unless someone is willing to just give them cash to burn, they will not be signing players in january. only way I can see players coming in is if ashley lets them have a couple of toon players on loan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alva-Jambo Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 They have 50? players and the extra cost them the eight million they need to survive next year financially. So if Sally buys players he will need to get rid of a few dead wood lads. PS Killie to stuff them today, go on the Killie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tasavallan Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 You think they will be buying without selling? As was seen at ER at end of last season, players with contracts and on good money may decide to stay put, at least to the summer. Who can Sevco sell in January apart from McLeod and Wallace? Methinks the high wage bill may turn around and bite Sally in his ever expanding bum. Does anyone believe that the likes of Elbows, Miller, Black, etc. will voluntarily leave in January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tasavallan Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 They have 50? players and the extra cost them the eight million they need to survive next year financially. A quick check of their squad shows a total of 20 players over 21 years of age. That number cannot be cheap to maintain. In comparison Hearts have only 12 players over 21, whom I expect will be on average lower money than their Hun counterparts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
269miles Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 As was seen at ER at end of last season, players with contracts and on good money may decide to stay put, at least to the summer. Who can Sevco sell in January apart from McLeod and Wallace? Methinks the high wage bill may turn around and bite Sally in his ever expanding bum. Does anyone believe that the likes of Elbows, Miller, Black, etc. will voluntarily leave in January. Nope. They don't do walking away . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Gilbert Wauchope Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 There was some talk of major safety concerns about the Club Deck there. Has it been open this season? I would doubt that Ashley would see spending lots of money on Ibrox as a good investment. It would depend on what he wanted it for. The redevelopment of Highbury gives a good example of what can be done with older stadia, even if they're listed buildings. If Ashley was inclined to take the ground, get the Huns out and sell on for redevelopment, perhaps with outline planning permission, he'd have the potential to make a huge financial killing. Of course, it's likely that he plans no such thing - but it might crossed someone's mind! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ERJEAN51 Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 14000 at Ibrox today with at least a 10th of that Killie fans. That won't help the bank balance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarmerTweedy Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 Am I right in seeing that they have about 51 players on the books? The difference , the ?8Million, seems to be mostly getting spent on them. Get the player total to 20, and they will balance their books . Mind , I don't care, and I suspect neither does Ashley, who will simply mop up the assets for pennies. 51 players isn't an unreasonable number. I'd be surprised if we've got many less than that. I'm guessing you're confusing total number on the books with first team squad size. IIRC, first team squad costs were about ?7m for 2012-13. There clearly are significant savings to be made there, but not ?8m! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Dawn Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 G Walking away at the debt dome. Still at least Mike's been quick in getting his brand plastered all over the Stadium :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobNox Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 (edited) As was seen at ER at end of last season, players with contracts and on good money may decide to stay put, at least to the summer. Who can Sevco sell in January apart from McLeod and Wallace? Methinks the high wage bill may turn around and bite Sally in his ever expanding bum. Does anyone believe that the likes of Elbows, Miller, Black, etc. will voluntarily leave in January. They won't walk in January, because they will never manage to find a better deal, so Sevco will probably struggle to reduce the wage bill over the remainder of this season. But If they are all out of contract at the end of the season then they will leave at that time if Rangers want them to, the question will be who do they replace them with? The fans will no doubt expect to see some big signings, but the reality is that, without a serious injection of capital, Rangers will be mainly looking at out of contract players coming in on much lower deals than the players they replace. That is hardly going to put them in a place where they can seriously compete with Celtic, even assuming they are back in the same division as Celtic. Edited November 30, 2014 by RobNox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 (edited) Keith Jackson is tweeting that WH Ireland will be Rangers next NOMAD http://wh-ireland.co.uk/wh-ireland Green, Whyte and now Ireland whatever next? The Sons of Struth will be planning their next boycott amid claims of their traditions being eroded once more. Edit: I note that WH Ireland was established in 1872, the same year as a now deceased football club. Edited December 1, 2014 by Footballfirst Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 Keith Jackson is tweeting that WH Ireland will be Rangers next NOMAD http://wh-ireland.co.uk/wh-ireland Green, Whyte and now Ireland whatever next? The Sons of Struth will be planning their next boycott amid claims of their traditions being eroded once more. Edit: I note that WH Ireland was established in 1872, the same year as a now deceased football club. It's a small world in the Nomad business. It seems that WH Ireland took over clients and assets from a company called Pritchard Stockbrokers which was in administration in 2012. http://wh-ireland.co.uk/news/wh-ireland/transfer-of-client-stock-assets-under-management-from-pritchard-stockbrokers-limited-to-wh-ireland-limited Some may have heard of Pritchard's before as Craig Whyte was its company secretary. I won't say any more about the reasons for Pritchard's administration in light of current legal proceedings, but a Google search of Pritchard's and Whyte might give some background. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanmillar Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 Hope the die again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fort Vallance Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 14000 at Ibrox today with at least a 10th of that Killie fans. That won't help the bank balance. And Killie getting 50% after expenses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
269miles Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 It's a small world in the Nomad business. It seems that WH Ireland took over clients and assets from a company called Pritchard Stockbrokers which was in administration in 2012. http://wh-ireland.co.uk/news/wh-ireland/transfer-of-client-stock-assets-under-management-from-pritchard-stockbrokers-limited-to-wh-ireland-limited Some may have heard of Pritchard's before as Craig Whyte was its company secretary. I won't say any more about the reasons for Pritchard's administration in light of current legal proceedings, but a Google search of Pritchard's and Whyte might give some background. Cheers for that . I did as you suggested and noticed this - The stockbroker, who note their banker in their latest annual accounts as Lloyds Banking Group, reported profits of just ?18,077 for the year to June 30, 2011, against a loss of ?9355 a year earlier That'll be the same bank that was trying to flog Rangers (RIP) ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJGJ Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 Rangers get just one eighth from Sports Direct compared to their previous deal with JJB ?...Ban called for by Union of Fans "That means for every ?10 spent by Rangers fans on merchandise, the club receives only around 75p. The accounts also reveal that Rangers Retail has an obligation to purchase stock at a higher price than it is able to be sold at. "In the second half of the year covered by the accounts, it appears that the portion of profit due to the club is ?2k. "For comparative purposes, the much maligned JJB agreement, our previous retail deal, made the club a minimum of ?4.8m a year over the term of the deal, over eight times the amount we are making from Sports Direct. "David Somers [the Rangers chairman] stated recently that Rangers 'make quite a lot of money' from the Sports Direct deal, but that is not how the accounts read in our analysis. In fact, despite the loyalty of the Rangers fans seeing ?7.6m spent on retail in the year covered by the accounts, the club's share of that spending is ?590k. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/30284514 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 Rangers get just one eighth from Sports Direct compared to their previous deal with JJB ?...Ban called for by Union of Fans "That means for every ?10 spent by Rangers fans on merchandise, the club receives only around 75p. The accounts also reveal that Rangers Retail has an obligation to purchase stock at a higher price than it is able to be sold at. "In the second half of the year covered by the accounts, it appears that the portion of profit due to the club is ?2k. "For comparative purposes, the much maligned JJB agreement, our previous retail deal, made the club a minimum of ?4.8m a year over the term of the deal, over eight times the amount we are making from Sports Direct. "David Somers [the Rangers chairman] stated recently that Rangers 'make quite a lot of money' from the Sports Direct deal, but that is not how the accounts read in our analysis. In fact, despite the loyalty of the Rangers fans seeing ?7.6m spent on retail in the year covered by the accounts, the club's share of that spending is ?590k. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/30284514 If the Orcs take this to heart and turn on Ashley he'll be off. Even if he comes out and changes the deal they will still have lost faith in him if they ever had any in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
givememychoice Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 OK, so they are calling on a boycott of the merchandising? That will suit MA fine, not Rangers though because they have to buy the unsold stock...would be funny though if this was the tipping point. A boycott meaning Rangers have to buy too much stock thus going bust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jammy T Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 There's a big difference having some land to develop next to Islington in London compared with a shitip in Govan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 lifted straight from JKB??? Comedy gold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tasavallan Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 There's a big difference having some land to develop next to Islington in London compared with a shitip in Govan My mate from Maryhill came up with a "get rich" plan, when Minty was trying to get the casino built in Govan. Buy cheap tenement houses around greyskull and when the casino comes the price will sky rocket. He was working in far east Russia and would buy a property every trip home with his bonus. He must have had a portfolio of about 6-10 properties all bought at bottom dollar and as we all know Minty lost out and the property value for Govan went down to almost zero. Made as much money there as his investment in a Belgian ostrich farm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 No, they had that info before it was posted on here.I did wonder if we had lifted it from elsewhere first. Funny regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewB Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 Yep, not as funny as C. Green racing one of his horses at a French meeting the other day, it's name was "Ibrox". Tried to cut corners by racing across the middle of the track; stewards turned a blind eye. Jockey was too fat to guide it properly. Fell down theatrically - but then (sadly) died. Then rose again. Then fell again and died again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strachsuit Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 PMGB's latest ramblings: http://www.philmacgiollabhain.ie/welcome-to-the-pity-party/#more-5369 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambovambo Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 I bet that's pretty accurate, to be fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkishcap Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 Fair cheered me up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tasavallan Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 PMGB's latest ramblings: http://www.philmacgiollabhain.ie/welcome-to-the-pity-party/#more-5369 ALMOST BUT NOT QUITE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts007 Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 will they Boycott Fester Road? they are seeeeething at being charged ?28 for a ticket Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 4 Ever Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 will they Boycott Fester Road? they are seeeeething at being charged ?28 for a ticket would like a Hibs win in that game! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts007 Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 would like a Hibs win in that game! yep,as long as we keep winning as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I P Knightley Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 My mate from Maryhill came up with a "get rich" plan, when Minty was trying to get the casino built in Govan. Buy cheap tenement houses around greyskull and when the casino comes the price will sky rocket. He was working in far east Russia and would buy a property every trip home with his bonus. He must have had a portfolio of about 6-10 properties all bought at bottom dollar and as we all know Minty lost out and the property value for Govan went down to almost zero. Made as much money there as his investment in a Belgian ostrich farm. And to bring it full circle, in that photo on the front of the Record, Whyte bears an uncanny resemblance to a Belgian ostrich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETTY29 Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 (edited) Whytes fortunes have changed, He got better Burds back then.. I wonder if he ever paid the plastic surgeons bills. Edited December 2, 2014 by DETTY29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 Whytes fortunes have changed, He got better Burds back then.. I think we might find that Rangers payed for her (bottom Burd) and her Boob job!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 DETTY29 on the same wave length there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 He's a player alright. I think she might have grasp something of his there hence the big smile!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Future's Maroon Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 Whytes fortunes have changed, He got better Burds back then.. It hardly looks like the same person? (Whyte I mean obviously) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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