Malinga the Swinga Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 If Dumbarton are paying an annual budget of ?200k to their players (in total), the teams in Div 2 and Div 1 must be paying less. Why did Rangers decide to stump up hundreds of thousands, if not millions, in winning leagues that they were always going to win. Just madness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paolo Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 (edited) Kevin Kyle on Radio Scotland said he was paid ?100,000 a year at Rangers in the third division and most players were on ?3-400k Whilst the rest of division were probably on expenses or ?5,000 a year, as part timers. Edited December 17, 2014 by Claudia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJ1970 Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 That answers my question perfectly. That doesn't answer the question at all. One of the I Murrays is a sad bigoted loser and the other one played for Hibs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Grimes Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 That doesn't answer the question at all. One of the I Murrays is a sad bigoted loser and the other one played for Hibs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corryjambo Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 If Dumbarton are paying an annual budget of ?200k to their players (in total), the teams in Div 2 and Div 1 must be paying less. Why did Rangers decide to stump up hundreds of thousands, if not millions, in winning leagues that they were always going to win. Just madness. Because they believe "They are the people" and the idiots who support them would not have accepted them simply signing players that would have won them the lower leagues. No, they had to sign the kind of players they perceived were "good enough" to play for them and to hell with the consequences. That attitude is still there hence their desperate hope that someone with off the radar wealth will come along and allow the manager a war chest to go out and have another spending spree. They will never learn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paolo Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 That doesn't answer the question at all. One of the I Murrays is a sad bigoted loser and the other one played for Hibs. I don't agree with his politics, but a bit harsh.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Remember when we were called a circus under Vlad? Vlad's brainfarts look like sober decision making in comparison to this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paolo Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Remember when we were called a circus under Vlad? Vlad's brainfarts look like sober decision making in comparison to this. The problem was, Vlad was serving up nuts, rather than lamb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobNox Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 She's a lovely creature. Is that no Craigy's bird, the one that was with him when he appeared in court a couple of weeks ago? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobNox Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 He looks happy to be there[emoji1] Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Looks like he just farted and followed through! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
My son's a Jambo Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 New Phil maccy post claims failure to agree comes down to Fat Ally refusing a confidentiality clause. McCoist must Stay! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbee647 Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Because they believe "They are the people" and the idiots who support them would not have accepted them simply signing players that would have won them the lower leagues. No, they had to sign the kind of players they perceived were "good enough" to play for them and to hell with the consequences. That attitude is still there hence their desperate hope that someone with off the radar wealth will come along and allow the manager a war chest to go out and have another spending spree. They will never learn This sums it up, they also believed they had to win the Scottish and League Cups, there sense of entitlement and the WATP attitude is what inevitably will kill them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torino calcio Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 New Phil maccy post claims failure to agree comes down to Fat Ally refusing a confidentiality clause. McCoist must Stay! That would make sense as Fatty will need to jusify his fleecing of Rangers in order to minimize the possibility of physical assault by the aggrieved bears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaza_1986 Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Sky sources say despite resigning, Rangers boss Ally McCoist is preparing for the next game as normal. A sausage supper & a pay rise, then. Steeling paddy powers Twitter accounts banter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Comedian Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 If Dumbarton are paying an annual budget of ?200k to their players (in total), the teams in Div 2 and Div 1 must be paying less. Why did Rangers decide to stump up hundreds of thousands, if not millions, in winning leagues that they were always going to win. Just madness. Bawheid-ery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deevers Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 The body language at their forth coming AGM will be interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Remember when we were called a circus under Vlad? Vlad's brainfarts look like sober decision making in comparison to this. Spot on Geoff, Rangers are a three ring circus with clowns in every ring. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Robbo Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Does anyone know how our wage bill stands up to The Rangers and what our top player is on? Over at Bears Den I'm reading figures of ?9k a week for Ian Black! That's just ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feeno Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 I think Chuck Green and co had to fire big wages at these no mark players to hide thay they where funneling out even more dough out the back door. Misdirection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feeno Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 (edited) doubler. Edited December 17, 2014 by Feeno Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETTY29 Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 (edited) I think Chuck Green and co had to fire big wages at these no mark players to hide thay they where funneling out even more dough out the back door. Misdirection.I think if they had say reduced their wage bill to a mere ?3m for each season, the spivs would still have managed to take the ?4m spare out. Edited December 17, 2014 by DETTY29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulie Walnut Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Does anyone know how our wage bill stands up to The Rangers and what our top player is on? Over at Bears Den I'm reading figures of ?9k a week for Ian Black! That's just ridiculous. Ian Black left Hearts and had zero offers on the table, mainly due to him being injured. He received notification Rangers wanted to speak to him regarding a contract and was surprised as anybody when he showed up and was offered 4k a week basic. The funniest thing in all of this is he would have played for less than half of his HMFC deal of 3k a week just to earn a living. Very similar to the old stories that came out of Leeds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Quite funny listening to Radio Scotland. Some believe Rangers board want NcCoist at AGM to take some of the heat off themselves and if he had been punted, then they would have got the flack. Also, Ian Murray stating Hearts were massive favourites in his eyes to win league as they had better players than Rangers. He thinks the gap will increase, not decrease over coming weeks. Hope he is right. It is completely possible, if we win all our games between now and the Rangers game (so win that) and Rangers get beaten by Hibs (very possible.) Then there will be an 18 point gap between us and them by mid-January. And that does not take into account of any points deductions which could happen to Rangers for a number of reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobNox Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 It is completely possible, if we win all our games between now and the Rangers game (so win that) and Rangers get beaten by Hibs (very possible.) Then there will be an 18 point gap between us and them by mid-January. And that does not take into account of any points deductions which could happen to Rangers for a number of reasons. I think it is very possible that Rangers will drop even more 'silly' points against the lower teams in the league. They seem to be in a bit of meltdown at the moment and the McCoist situation and other off-field developments are hardly likely to help things. Added to that they may see players leave in January with no money to bring in replacements. Since we beat them in the league, they have scraped a home win against Cowdenbeath thanks to a deflected goal, and were outplayed at QoS, not to mention throwing away a 2 goal lead against Alloa in the Petrofac semi. I would expect Hibs to beat them in the league, but can also see them struggle in other games and maybe drop more points. While it is inevitable that we will drop points in games we would expect to win, as things stand Rangers will drop even more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musemic Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 It is completely possible, if we win all our games between now and the Rangers game (so win that) and Rangers get beaten by Hibs (very possible.) Then there will be an 18 point gap between us and them by mid-January. And that does not take into account of any points deductions which could happen to Rangers for a number of reasons. Of course it's possible that we could win all our games before the game at Ibrox, but it's also possible (though less likely) that Sevco will win all theirs. Let's not get too much ahead of ourselves - just start off by taking 3 points off Alloa on Saturday then concentrate on the Cowden game and so on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Australis Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Took a look at Rangers media. They are blaming everyone except David Minty Murray. No wonder they are going down the plug hole. I am loving every minute of dead zombie sevco about to die again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETTY29 Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Took a look at Rangers media. They are blaming everyone except David Minty Murray. No wonder they are going down the plug hole. I am loving every minute of dead zombie sevco about to die again. They are fecked because of their fixed cost base and fan aspirations. That lies clearly at the the door of Murray and themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambo mark Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 I don't think Salary is going to leave having signed a confidentiality agreement. He'll want to leave and spill all. The board won't want him to leave and spill all, so will have to cough up an inordinate amount of money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alwaysthereinspirit Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Ian Black left Hearts and had zero offers on the table, mainly due to him being injured. He received notification Rangers wanted to speak to him regarding a contract and was surprised as anybody when he showed up and was offered 4k a week basic. The funniest thing in all of this is he would have played for less than half of his HMFC deal of 3k a week just to earn a living. Very similar to the old stories that came out of Leeds. I remember the Player/agent supposed talk at Leeds prior to them walking in to meet the owner. Agent to player "We won't let them bully us. 10,000 a week is what we'll ask for" Owner "we'll offer you 15,000 a week. Agent "15,000" Owner "fine 20,000" Agent "what" Owner "ok 25,000 but that's our final offer, take it or leave it" Agent "we'll take it" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ERJEAN51 Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Can't wait to see their attendance at the weekend. 28,000 no doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve444 Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 just some more creditors needing paid. 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Abbey Craig Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 An absolutely hilarious day and it just kept coming. I am surprised the the quote from HibbyHun Paterson in the Hootsman was missed though ?Of course it is a no-win situation for the SFA but they laid down a marker when they put Rangers down and demonstrated that even one of the biggest clubs in the country would be held accountable and treated like everyone else,? he said. ?They can?t turn around and bend the rules now and that could become a major problem.? Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear. http://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/spfl-lower-divisions/sfa-rangers-verdict-could-hurt-scottish-football-1-3636349 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jammy T Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 We did the same for a bit when that Pedro loon was around did we not? Then latterly we went the other way and would agree terms with a player then when he had the contract to sign the salary was lower than agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 4 Ever Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Took a look at Rangers media. They are blaming everyone except David Minty Murray. No wonder they are going down the plug hole. I am loving every minute of dead zombie sevco about to die again. Is there any evidence to show Murray is to blame for anything though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guess The Crowd Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 (edited) I remember the Player/agent supposed talk at Leeds prior to them walking in to meet the owner. Agent to player "We won't let them bully us. 10,000 a week is what we'll ask for" Owner "we'll offer you 15,000 a week. Agent "15,000" Owner "fine 20,000" Agent "what" Owner "ok 25,000 but that's our final offer, take it or leave it" Agent "we'll take it" http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2012/feb/28/seth-johnson-england Seth Johnson, previously of Derby, was the player in question. An oft-repeated story, but, according to this article, not actually true! Edited December 17, 2014 by Guess The Crowd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strachsuit Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Is this where Ashley makes a last minute offer to loan them the money to punt McCoist and pay this months wages with the loan secured by the Big Hoose and Murray Park? Yeah, probably. PMGB suggesting that Ashley will take up an in-house share offer in order to get up to 29.9% so he doesn't need to make a formal offer to own the club. That would raise ?6m plus player sales making another ?2m (optimistic and simplistic if you ask me). I think that you're probably right and MA will now get his hands on the Big Hoose as a security. He's getting everything in place. Remember Sevco need to pay him back his ?3m in March! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alwaysthereinspirit Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2012/feb/28/seth-johnson-england Seth Johnson, previously of Derby, was the player in question. An oft-repeated story, but, according to this article, not actually true! Yeah figured. To funny to be 100% accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7628mm Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 It is completely possible, if we win all our games between now and the Rangers game (so win that) and Rangers get beaten by Hibs (very possible.) Then there will be an 18 point gap between us and them by mid-January. And that does not take into account of any points deductions which could happen to Rangers for a number of reasons. The way things look to me The Rangers should be more worried about the 3 teams below them at the moment rather than worry about catching us. If they were to get a points deduction then they may well be lucky to make a play off place. Falkirk are currently in 4th spot 9 points behind them. We just need to be concentrating one game at a time and looking for 3 points at each time of asking. Undoubtedly a very interesting holiday period awaits. HHGH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paolo Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Can we not play them on the 23rd of December instead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frodoker Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Yeah, probably. PMGB suggesting that Ashley will take up an in-house share offer in order to get up to 29.9% so he doesn't need to make a formal offer to own the club. That would raise ?6m plus player sales making another ?2m (optimistic and simplistic if you ask me). I think that you're probably right and MA will now get his hands on the Big Hoose as a security. He's getting everything in place. Remember Sevco need to pay him back his ?3m in March! OK I am just up but.... Is he just ignoring the 9 or 10% agreement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frodoker Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 (edited) Yeah, probably. PMGB suggesting that Ashley will take up an in-house share offer in order to get up to 29.9% so he doesn't need to make a formal offer to own the club. That would raise ?6m plus player sales making another ?2m (optimistic and simplistic if you ask me). I think that you're probably right and MA will now get his hands on the Big Hoose as a security. He's getting everything in place. Remember Sevco need to pay him back his ?3m in March! OK I am just up.... Is he just ignoring the 9 or 10% limit agreement? Oops sorry for double post Edited December 18, 2014 by frodoker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroughtyJambo Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 OK I am just up.... Is he just ignoring the 9 or 10% limit agreement? Oops sorry for double post Yup. I heard the same thing. Get it done by mid January and then when he goes to the meeting at the end of the month. He tells Doncaster, etc he's the only man willing to save the rangers and to hell with owning two teams! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Burgundy Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Yup. I heard the same thing. Get it done by mid January and then when he goes to the meeting at the end of the month. He tells Doncaster, etc he's the only man willing to save the rangers and to hell with owning two teams! Surely he has bigger fish to worry about than the SFA if that's his tactics. What about uefa? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gasman Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 OK I am just up but.... Is he just ignoring the 9 or 10% agreement? Part of that agreement is that he would have no influence over the running of the Club, but as he's already forced out two directors, and replaced them with two of his own guys then - yeah - I think it's safe to say he's ignoring the agreement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas-voss Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Surely he has bigger fish to worry about than the SFA if that's his tactics. What about uefa?Only becomes a problem if both are competing in the same tournament Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamboelite Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Only becomes a problem if both are competing in the same tournament It comes down to the same wuestion why is MA there ? If its purely asset stripping and securing the profitable parts then he doesnt need to buy shares, a few loans with security to property does that for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strachsuit Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Great time for ashley to buy shares tbh.. 19th December 2012:.......70p 19th December 2013:.......34p 17th December 2014:.......17p Ah, but next year he'll get them for 8p! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETTY29 Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 (edited) The key question of the SFA is why did they insert the clause about dual ownership. What are they trying to stop, especially if they are going to back down at the first opportunity? Which they did by allowing the increase from 3 to 10% in the first place. Let's assume MA gets 29% control. This means - the SFA has indicated ok, but MA has to go through protocol. - If not, then subject to rules, the SFA do something similar to the Championship (or was it the FA) qith Leeds give him a timescale to sell up and move away from Rangers completely. Cynic in me says by end 2016 in line with MA NUFC exit plans. - Suspend Rangers licence until he exits Rangers. Sub question is why do they have rules with pinishments if they significantly defer from, notably one team Edited December 18, 2014 by DETTY29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I P Knightley Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 (edited) Great time for ashley to buy shares tbh.. 19th December 2012:.......70p 19th December 2013:.......34p 17th December 2014:.......17p They should put that as an example of a half-life on the schools' science curriculum. The Rangers share price is toxic and has a half-life of one year. Edited December 18, 2014 by I P Knightley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alva-Jambo Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Could be a great time for ANY punter to by them for a trading gamble if, if, he was serious about getting them into Europe in a couple of years time. But, who can tell what his plans are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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