Gods a Jambo Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 To be fair it looked far worse at the game as the Celtic fans were coming in from all angles, I honestly thought they were trying to make their way round the stand to section G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deevers Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 Link e-mailed off to the BBC Sportscene and Sportsound! I wonder if they will make any comment on it. Don't hold your breath! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinger Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/football/spl/2011/05/13/celtic-and-hearts-set-for-the-dock-over-bigoted-songs-during-night-of-hate-at-tynecastle-86908-23127142/ Can you post videos on the site in this link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 The rate of pay is irrelevant. They are employed by the club at considerable expense to maintain order and ensure public safety, if they are not up to the job then the club should be asking for their money back as they are clearly not getting what they are paying for. I worked as a steward a while back when I was skint and as far as I can see the point about the rate of pay is that the club is getting what it's paying for They're buying a cheap, basic service which is sufficient for everyday purposes where disorder and threats to public safety are limited to isolated incidents and all that is required is usually telling daft laddies to calm down or escalating matters to your supervisor or straight to the police. To be sure you're keep order in circumstances like the Roseburn last Wednesday you would need to pay premium prices for a premium service. Essentially you'd be asking the security firm to provide you with dozens of the more professional, full-time security people who work as night club bouncers and the like and they're not going to work for minimum wage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Romanov Saviour of HMFC Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 The rate of pay is irrelevant. They are employed by the club at considerable expense to maintain order and ensure public safety, if they are not up to the job then the club should be asking for their money back as they are clearly not getting what they are paying for. Let's get real for a second though. Nobody is going to get their head kicked in for a fiver an hour when the police are barely doing **** all. An employee was on here the other day saying they are advised not to tackle invaders as they'll be held liable for injuries or something so I'd imagine the same applies in this case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bean counter Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 Someone needs to speak to Peter Lawwell and while agreeing with his comments this morning ask as part of Celtics commitment to it how many fans have been banned from Parkhead this season for unacceptable behaviour, how many of this number were due to the investigation and action his chairman promised after the disgraceful poppy banner incident then show him the video and ask his thought on the "sniper", man in black hat kicking steward and the mass "we are the IRA" and what action he and the club will take to identify and ban those involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Merse Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 Let's get real for a second though. Nobody is going to get their head kicked in for a fiver an hour when the police are barely doing **** all. An employee was on here the other day saying they are advised not to tackle invaders as they'll be held liable for injuries or something so I'd imagine the same applies in this case. It's not the employees really, it's the employers. They need to hire people who are willing/capable to handle certain circumstances, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The People's Chimp Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 Lets see the media pick up on this : Filmed from very close to my seat in Section P. Had an excellent view of the muppets... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Better call Saul Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 HORRIBLE LITTLE C U NEXT TUESDAYS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Romanov Saviour of HMFC Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 It's not the employees really, it's the employers. They need to hire people who are willing/capable to handle certain circumstances, Without doubt. There is no point having a go at the folk who are working though. They aren't to blame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deevers Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 It's not the employees really, it's the employers. They need to hire people who are willing/capable to handle certain circumstances, Sad to say - but it's not Stewards that are required in the Roseburn Stand when Celtic come calling but a very heavy police presence and a zero tolerance approach. The easy answer, however is for the club to give Celtic Supporters the minimum possible allocation and for no tickets to be allocated unless the recipients details are fully verified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bill Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 I wonder if Charlie Could've-been Nicholas thinks that Celtic should be banned from next season's Europa Cup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busbybomb Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 Do we think anybody will be remotely interested in this. It looks like a pushing match , hardly a riot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlad-Stupid Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 Showed a viTim at work this video. He said it was the fault of the guy that ran on the pitch and the nasty songs we'd been singing. Completely blameless in his opinion He reckons we should be done for inciting it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
portobellojambo1 Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 I would like to know if our club is willing to close the Roseburn when these horrible cretins come to town. The so called federation of Hearts supporters were on the HMFC main site before the game, where are they now? Too much of a hot potato to get involved? Sorry, IL, you haven't got a clue what you are talking about in relation to this. You may or may not have noticed there was a much heavier police presence around Tynecastle Wednesday night, you may or may not have noticed that there was a distinct lack of Celtic supporters buses on Gorgie Road Wednesday night. This was all as a result of discussions involving HMFC's security head, the FHSC and Lothian and Borders police. The FHSC are sick feckin fed up of HMFC being portrayed as the bad guys, mini feckin Rangers fans, etc. etc. and are sick fed up of the lax attitude towards visiting OF fans at Tynecastle (more so Celtic fans than Rangers fans, because trouble in and around Tynecastle is most prevalent when Celtic are in town). What you may not be aware of either is that there were also large numbers of plain clothes police officers inside Tynecastle on Wednesday, with a specific job to do. That was to identify those making unacceptable comments and/or actions, and pass the information onto security and uniformed officers. The idea was that they would then be arrested, depending on the numbers involved, as they made their way to the concourses or as they left the ground and split up into smaller groups. This information obviously couldn't be openly broadcast pre match, otherwise the operation could fail. This, again, all followed discussions based around the portrayal of Hearts fans, and also the manner in which we are treated when we go to Parkhead. As the video shows arrests were being made within the Roseburn end of the ground, around the concourse area, in fact one could argue the operation could have gone perfectly, as was hoped. While everyone accepts there is an element in our support whose views all may not agree with, the hope was that on the night their input would be so minimal (other than the waving of a few flags, and the odd song which would piss off the animals in the Roseburn) that the real problem makers (the visitors) would cop the full whack on Wednesday night. Unfortunately one feckin trumpet screwed everything up, by deflecting all coverage away from the real problem, and giving the media the opportunity to crucify HMFC and its supporters in the process. Not HMFC'c fault, not the FHSC's fault, not L & B's fault, in fact not even Neil Lennon's fault (irrespective of what you think of the odious little shop front). One person is to blame on Wednesday.We just have to hope that L & B have captured enough additional video evidence to use if necessary in any ongoing investigations into events on Wednesday, and I'm talking now about what went on in the Roseburn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Romanov Saviour of HMFC Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 Sorry, IL, you haven't got a clue what you are talking about in relation to this. You may or may not have noticed there was a much heavier police presence around Tynecastle last night, you may or may not have noticed that there was a distinct lack of Celtic supporters buses on Gorgie Road last night. This wall all as a result of discussions involving HMFC's security head, the FHSC and Lothian and Borders police. The FHSC are sick feckin fed up of HMFC being portrayed as the bad guys, mini feckin Rangers fans, etc. etc. and are sick fed up of the lax attitude towards visiting OF fans at Tynecastle (more so Celtic fans than Rangers fans, because trouble in and around Tynecastle is most prevalent when Celtic are in town). What you may not be aware of either is that there were also large numbers of plain clothes police officers inside Tynecastle on Wednesday, with a specific job to do. That was to identify those making unaccpetable comments and/or actions, and pass the information onto security and uniformed officers. The idea was that they would then be arrested, depending on the numbers involved, as they made their way to the concourses or as they left the ground and split up into smaller groups. This information obviously couldn't be openly broadcast pre match, otherwise the operation could fail. This, again, all followed discussions based around the portrayal of Hearts fans, and also the manner in which we are treated when we go to Parkhead. As the video shows arrests were being made within the Roseburn end of the ground, around the concourse area, in fact one could argue the operation could have gone perfectly, as was hoped. While everyone accepts there is an element in our support whose views all may not agree with, the hope was that on the night their input would be so minimal (other than the waving of a few flags, and the odd song which would piss off the animals in the Roseburn) that the real problem makers (the visitors) would cop the full whack on Wednesday night. Unfortunately one feckin trumpet screwed everything up, by deflecting all coverage away from the real problem, and giving the media the opportunity to crucify HMFC and its supporters in the process. Not HMFC'c fault, not the FHSC's fault, not L & B's fault, in fact not even Neil Lennon's fault (irrespective of what you think of the odious little shop front). One person is to blame on Wednesday. Will the Federation be putting pressure on for Celtics allocation to be cut to the minimum? As far as I can see, that's what we all want and will take away the need for undercover police men and all that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bean counter Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 I thought Celtic brought their own stewards when they came to Tynecastle, is that still the case ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASSASSIN Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 well i wonder if all the bull$4it about them being the best fans in the world is still being spread disgusting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamgerrard Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 I have contacted the police about that video also contacted the spl and informed the scottish sun of it and its link i want our club to be cleared heres the number for the scottish sun 0141 4205200 the sun have been looking for that footage witch now hopefully hammer celtic aswell now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottish_chicP Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 Absolutely scum of the earth! It makes me so angry that they are pleading all this nonsense about getting the "shame" out of Scottish football. Actually raging watching that video Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Order Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 What I want to know is, would Hearts not have CCTV of this? When this kicked off I'm sure that a number of cameras must have been turned towards that area of the stadium and I'm sure it must have been recorded. Hearts should get the footage out there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bert Le Clos Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 Let's get real for a second though. Nobody is going to get their head kicked in for a fiver an hour when the police are barely doing **** all. An employee was on here the other day saying they are advised not to tackle invaders as they'll be held liable for injuries or something so I'd imagine the same applies in this case. The club needs to employ tougher security. Especially for matches against Hibs, Celtic and Rangers. However I don't buy into the argument that stewards should do sweet FA just becuase they don't get paid a fortune. They've taken the job knowing what could possibly happen. They can't decide to take their money when the going's easy and do nothing when it gets tough. If everybody had the same opinion that they were underpayed so they'll do nothing, then nothing would ever get done. But I agree that the responsibility should fall at the door of Hearts to employ a better company, or the company to not employ 5ft 2in women. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Bishop Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 Unbelievable response from a chief sports reporter for NATIONAL not Glasgow news on Twitter after is sent video in response to him declaring his love for Lennon: jamiejj29 jamie j29 @STVRaman are you going to report this then or are you too scared??? STVRaman Raman Bhardwaj @jamiejj29 I always find it strange when people tell others how to do their job. Do I tell you how to do your job? No. End of. @jamiejj29 @STVRaman Totally expected response from a west coast panderer hope you are proud of one of your big 2 teams. Clown #mickeymousejournalist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikescotland Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 How do they manage it though? I mean, every time something happens (death threats/bombs apart) they've played the victim card and the only things reported show fans of other clubs in a bad light. I'm including the way they seem to manage to get uefa to listen to them moaning about the huns singing songs they dinnae like. why is it such a one way street for them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 You do know that Septic have another get out of jail free card here? They'll immediately blame HMFC for selling them the tickets and say that these supporters wouldn't have got them had Septic sold them the tickets and Hearts paid that fecking booking fee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 Sad to say - but it's not Stewards that are required in the Roseburn Stand when Celtic come calling but a very heavy police presence and a zero tolerance approach. The easy answer, however is for the club to give Celtic Supporters the minimum possible allocation and for no tickets to be allocated unless the recipients details are fully verified. The sheer manpower involved in a heavy enough police presence would make this hugely expensive Depending on how many concessions there were the total value of ticket sales in the Roseburn Stand on Wednesday would have been a little over or under ?100,000 Even last Wednesday's additional security costs would have made a noticable dent in that and the kind of operation you're talking about would mean that you'd have to start wondering whether letting any Celtic fans in at all was worthwhile. Especially if you could sell any of the roseburn to Hearts supporters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamhammer Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 The police were all on the Roseburn concourse dealing with a disturbance in there. They were seriously outnumbered. I think folk forget for every person arrested that is 2 cops out of the picture. In situations like Wednesday night your only chance of an arrest is using CCTV footage afterwards, a la Manchester. I wasn't in that stand on Wednesday but was at the last game v Celtic at Tyney and I can tell you straight there is no way you could make an arrest when you are being attacked from all sides. Haven't seen anything like it since West Ham in the 80's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottish_chicP Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 I posted it on my facebook page and so many Celtic fans defending it saying a steward grabbed a girl by the throat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Treasurer Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 Sad to say - but it's not Stewards that are required in the Roseburn Stand when Celtic come calling but a very heavy police presence and a zero tolerance approach. The easy answer, however is for the club to give Celtic Supporters the minimum possible allocation and for no tickets to be allocated unless the recipients details are fully verified. You're spot on. If they bleat about getting a reduced allocation then HMFC only need to say that due to previous incidents the level of security required to sufficiently police a full Roseburn stand would not be cost effective Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bainy Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 This is no different from the Hearts fan that punched Lennon yet the Scottish Media is only reporting that ginger twats incident! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamgerrard Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 we should be passing on this info to all forms of media ive just been in contact with bbc,sun,record,spl,police,mirror LETS FIGHT BACK NOW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartbeat Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 No been on since wednesday until today so forgive me if been covered Mate told me that on the radio coming home from game they alleged the smellies had rioted because a steward had pulled a female out by the hair? From that video the stewards were too but keeking themselves to do much more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oh ah grantona Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 sky sports emailed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
portobellojambo1 Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 Will the Federation be putting pressure on for Celtics allocation to be cut to the minimum? As far as I can see, that's what we all want and will take away the need for undercover police men and all that. The next FHSC meeting isn't until June/July now AG, but I would imagine Wednesday night's events will be discussed in depth at the next meeting. However, such a decision regards ticket allocation I would think can only be made by HMFC (I'm honestly not sure how much pressure can be put on the club from the FHSC). I think they have to allocate visiting teams some tickets, but I'm sure the club will look at all options available to them regards the actual number, and will potentially have to discuss such things with the police (i.e. for such things as segregation if the additional seats are allocated to HMFC fans). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 You reckon maybe adopting a slightly less hysterical approach might have helped matters? The video is being watched in the STV newsroom right now. Continue being offensive to folk if you wish, but expect any sympathy for decent Hearts fans who have been caught up in this to diminish very quickly if you continue being a confrontational [Mod Edit]. Jamie was obviously that there wasn't a newsflash! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
super_vlad Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 You do know that Septic have another get out of jail free card here? They'll immediately blame HMFC for selling them the tickets and say that these supporters wouldn't have got them had Septic sold them the tickets and Hearts paid that fecking booking fee. Yep, all celtic have to say is we warned you this would happen if you sell tickets directly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Brightside Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 Yep, all celtic have to say is we warned you this would happen if you sell tickets directly! I thought Hearts only sold tickets to Ragers and Celtic season ticket holders and they had to take their season ticket to the ticket office as proof? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Bishop Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 You reckon maybe adopting a slightly less hysterical approach might have helped matters? The video is being watched in the STV newsroom right now. Continue being offensive to folk if you wish, but expect any sympathy for decent Hearts fans who have been caught up in this to diminish very quickly if you continue being a confrontational [Mod Edit]. Hardly being offensive or even confrontational I would call it being very frustrated and extremely pissed off that we as Hearts fans are having to raise these issues and go with begging bowls in hand to show that some of us are genuine and we should not all be tarred with the same brush as 1 arsehole.Ths should be reported along with the Lennon incident as it imo is much much worse. I have since deleted my last post however there is no way on this earth that this will be raised on the Glasgow national news this evening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Bishop Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 Jamie was obviously that there wasn't a newsflash! Great post Geoff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gods a Jambo Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 You reckon maybe adopting a slightly less hysterical approach might have helped matters? The video is being watched in the STV newsroom right now. Continue being offensive to folk if you wish, but expect any sympathy for decent Hearts fans who have been caught up in this to diminish very quickly if you continue being a confrontational [Mod Edit]. I think you're a bit out of order in your response to the guy. I can see where he is coming from and share his frustration, I assume you work in the media, hence your "hysterical" response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Walter Bishop Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 It was very confrontational and that's down to your frustration - but this video only came to light this morning and there's not been a bulletin broadcast yet! I don't agree that this is worse than Lennon's safety being comprimised by that nutcase on Wednesday night but I also passionately believe that the other unsavoury aspects to that night should not be allowed to be brushed under the carpet because of it. I include our support's singing of the Billy Boys in that statement. Time will tell what coverage this evidence receives. I too have my fears it will not see the light of day, but we cannot allow ourselves to boil over in a Celtic-like way. Of course its down to frustration, especially when idiots like Charlie Nicholas are coming out saying we should be banned from Europe! There is nobody in the Scottish media that has the balls to highlight this video as it would alienate half an audience. We live in a sad society where 2 football clubs from Glasgow are running the show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 I thought Hearts only sold tickets to Ragers and Celtic season ticket holders and they had to take their season ticket to the ticket office as proof? That may be the case as well, but it wouldn't stop them using it, particularly as they have a lot more than 3500 ST holders. Lawwell has no shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gods a Jambo Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 I expect you would want to be afforded common courtesy in your workplace - there is no profession where your standing legitimately allows others to be rude to you. I too share the exact frustrations of yourself and Jamiej. I also understand that you are far more likely to get anywhere with people if you respect them and interact with them in a reasonable fashion. To be fair i didnt think his point was made in a bad way, his reaction to the reply maybe let him down a bit. Considering he was just frustrated and the point of your post was to tell him to how to approach future situations, I think you let yourself down when you called him a "confrontational [Mod Edit]". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 I don't think anyone will give a toss but I admire anyone who sweats blood to get this into the public domain. What is our club doing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deevers Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 It was very confrontational and that's down to your frustration - but this video only came to light this morning and there's not been a bulletin broadcast yet! I don't agree that this is worse than Lennon's safety being comprimised by that nutcase on Wednesday night but I also passionately believe that the other unsavoury aspects to that night should not be allowed to be brushed under the carpet because of it. I include our support's singing of the Billy Boys in that statement. Time will tell what coverage this evidence receives. I too have my fears it will not see the light of day, but we cannot allow ourselves to boil over in a Celtic-like way. Borthers, I think you have to accept that many people posting on here just now are very emotive about incidents that happened on Wednesday night. The unfortunate thing is the that Scottish Media generally are not seen as being either impartial or fair minded by many people here. There is the problem - how do you approach people who you feel don't play fair and don't always tell the truth without being confrontational. The problem is that they are living in their own little cocoon in Glasgow and are only really interested in representing the interests of the two big Glasgow clubs as positively as possible. That why frustration leads to whats seen as a confrontation style by some folk when dealing with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 I spoke at length to my mate who was on duty on Wednesday night and it was carnage. A huge ruck in the Roseburn followed by the chaos in the stands. His point was that for every person lifted it takes two officers out to remove them and process them. L&B simply don't have enough bodies on the ground, even at a Cat A game, to cover that kind of aggro. They'd love to be able to steam in and lift folk for singing offensive songs etc but they simply haven't got the people to do it. His point was with the state of the art CCTV that Hearts have they could and should be warning ST holders about their conduct with the threat of bans etc. Controversial stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Treasurer Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 It was very confrontational and that's down to your frustration - but this video only came to light this morning and there's not been a bulletin broadcast yet! I don't agree that this is worse than Lennon's safety being comprimised by that nutcase on Wednesday night but I also passionately believe that the other unsavoury aspects to that night should not be allowed to be brushed under the carpet because of it. I include our support's singing of the Billy Boys in that statement. Time will tell what coverage this evidence receives. I too have my fears it will not see the light of day, but we cannot allow ourselves to boil over in a Celtic-like way. I think we would gain more credibility and respect if, as you suggest, we highlight and acknowledge that we are by no means blameless in this whole affair. If then the club are seen to actively take steps to address the situation it would leave the OF's pathetic attempts to get their own house in order exposed for the sham that it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Tolbooth Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 Watching this the things that sprung to mind were : Where were the police and how slow were they to react. I only saw two officers at the start of the mayhem and they quickly disappeared down the exit tunnel. What the footage doesn't show you is the amount of people brawling down the tunnel and at the food kiosks, and this is why the police were quick to head down the tunnel to get at the heart of the problem. Showed a viTim at work this video. He said it was the fault of the guy that ran on the pitch and the nasty songs we'd been singing. Completely blameless in his opinion He reckons we should be done for inciting it! Always the victims eh? Parasites! The trouble was sparked off because they tried to rob our food kiosks again, which is why the majority of the trouble happened on the concourse, with this in mind, and with the Celtic fans claims that it was because of the fan who attacked Lennon which sparked the trouble off, then the people who were trying to raid the kiosks at the time wouldn't even have seen what happened on the pitch, because they weren't at their seats! Sweep sweep sweep sweep sweep sweep sweep...................oh, and deflect! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
269miles Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 What the footage doesn't show you is the amount of people brawling down the tunnel and at the food kiosks, and this is why the police were quick to head down the tunnel to get at the heart of the problem. Always the victims eh? Parasites! The trouble was sparked off because they tried to rob our food kiosks again, which is why the majority of the trouble happened on the concourse, with this in mind, and with the Celtic fans claims that it was because of the fan who attacked Lennon which sparked the trouble off, then the people who were trying to raid the kiosks at the time wouldn't even have seen what happened on the pitch, because they weren't at their seats! Sweep sweep sweep sweep sweep sweep sweep...................oh, and deflect! Because the Celtic fans were outraged at the attack on Lennon. It must be true because Andy Masturbator clearly said so on Sky at the time. Naturally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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