Dens Park Pitch Debacle

[luckydug]

11 hours ago, milky_26 said:

the issue is dundee could end up in either of the top or bottom 6. previously games would have carried over when those teams knew if they were in the top or bottom 6.

Shouldn't matter .

Sporting integrity(no laughing at the back now) should take preference.

If this situation causes a rethink on league structure its a bonus imo. 

[livi]

Dundee Football Club

 

@DundeeFC

 

Further Pitch Inspection- Motherwell Following this morning’s scheduled pitch inspection the referee has deemed there will be a further inspection at 1pm this afternoon. #thedee

 

 

[GorgieFifeLife]

If it needs another inspection then there is a high chance it will be off which is a joke.  They should be ordered to play all remaining games at Forfar or somewhere and in midweek with a 2 day gap if required.

[Mikey1874]

Scottish football putting the fans first again. 

[OmiyaHearts]

Seen the video of the pitch inspection. No way is that game on.

Edited April 6 by OmiyaHearts

[ToadKiller Dog]

Games being off may help Dundee towards planning approval for the new stadium with the council . 

Not saying any conspiracy just a side thought .

Questions need to be asked as tannadice gets the same rain , Northend junior pitch same area , Sunday footballers and kids football at fairmuur pitches ,all haven't had the same level of issue. 

Certainly the spfl should be opening a review into the situation now at farce levels .

[Fxxx the SPFL]

Kick them out the league will make up for the fax fiasco

[milky_26]

17 minutes ago, OmiyaHearts said:

Seen the video of the pitch inspection. No way is that game on.

 

i doubt that pitch will be playable

[part_time_jambo]

On 05/04/2024 at 12:02, jamboinglasgow said:

 

If that happened, does that mean their game v Rangers which is due for Wednesday would have to be moved back a week or would Dundee have to play two games in three days?

Whatever suits Rangers best.

[jamboinglasgow]

35 minutes ago, OmiyaHearts said:

Seen the video of the pitch inspection. No way is that game on.

 

Dont know how they expecting that pitch to dry out in 2 hours. 

[part_time_jambo]

19 hours ago, been here before said:

Dundee v Motherwell: Visitors angered by SPFL's Airdrie closed doors plan

 

The SPFL's suggestion of playing Motherwell's Scottish Premiership game against Dundee behind closed doors at Airdrie is "nuts", says Fir Park chief executive Brian Caldwell.

 

The Dens Park pitch will be inspected on Saturday at 11:00 BST after ongoing heavy rain left the game in doubt.

 

The surface was deemed playable on Thursday and has been protected since by covers hired from Celtic.

 

But with the SPFL needing to finalise their post-split fixtures, they are eager that the game is played this weekend regardless.

Caldwell says moving the game to Sunday, or even Monday, has been mooted - neither of which appeal to Motherwell.

 

"We're a spectator sport, we have to look after our own supporters, we have to make sure they're at the game, so our position has been quite clear to the SPFL that this is not our fault," he said.

 

"This is nothing to do with this club so why should we have the hassle of it all?

 

"Our position is that we play on Saturday at Dens or we reschedule the game, and if that means that the post-split fixtures are delayed, then so be it because playing behind closed doors is just ridiculous.

 

"I think if they go down that line and they try and force us into doing that we will just stand firm and not do it. And I think Scottish football will support us with that."

 

Dundee said on Friday that the city had endured 17mm of rain overnight and that the planned Saturday morning pitch inspection would continue.

Dens Park has already had four matches postponed this season due to a waterlogged pitch.

Dundee are scheduled to host Rangers next Wednesday in a rescheduled fixture, with just two rounds of matches due before the split.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/68734390

 

 

Obviously the above is wholly conditional on @Mikey1874 providin a different link (probably from Twatter) to make the above officially true 

 

The "keep off the grass" sign in the BBC article isn't working.

[Gundermann]

51 minutes ago, OmiyaHearts said:

Seen the video of the pitch inspection. No way is that game on.

 

Looks fine to me.

 

[milky_26]

journalist scott burns on twitter is saying the game goes ahead

 

 

Edited April 6 by milky_26

[Malinga the Swinga]

Well, let's see how the game goes. Suppose wind will dry pitch out so as long as it doesn't rain, they might be okay.

[Saint Jambo]

Pitch looks terrible. Ref clearly under huge pressure to let game go ahead.

 

The rage from Motherwell if they don't win the game will be quite funny. You could probably script the manager's interview right now, blaming the pitch. Winning manager will give it the old 'same for both teams' routine. Let the clichés flow.

[Samuel Camazzola]

Just put the match outcome to a vote. That's what the league likes to do, isn't it? 

[theshed]

Hopefully a Dundee win then to keep hibs in bottom 6 

[milky_26]

1 minute ago, Saint Jambo said:

Pitch looks terrible. Ref clearly under huge pressure to let game go ahead.

 

The rage from Motherwell if they don't win the game will be quite funny. You could probably script the manager's interview right now, blaming the pitch. Winning manager will give it the old 'same for both teams' routine. Let the clichés flow.

the bigger issue will happen if any players pick up any injuries due to the pitch

[Australis]

Just win Dundee, keep the lowlife leith filth in the bottom 6 please.

 

[Mikey1874]

10 minutes ago, milky_26 said:

journalist scott burns on twitter is saying the game goes ahead

 

 

 

 

[ginger jambo98]

More sand on the pitch than Broughty Ferry Beach, Dunes Park, home of the New Arabs !

[jamboinglasgow]

 

If there are any injuries in this match there could be a big fall out from it

[jamboinglasgow]

If there is any injuries in this game, could cause some serious fallout from it 

[Mikey1874]

Will be pressure on referee to abandon the game if the pitch is shit

 

 

[Nookie Bear]

Considering the condition of some Fir Park pitches in the past they would be well advised to shut up and get on with it. 

[OTT]

Thats shocking the pitch is in that state. 

 

Ball isn't even bouncing. Can't help but think the ref has been told to pass the inspection. 

 

Doesn't look remotely fit for purpose. 

[leginten]

Not sure why Motherwell say they are pleased with the outcome of the pitch inspection while at the same they’re expressing deep concern. Seems a bit contradictory.

 

They either want it played or they want it off. 

[Philfigo]

3 minutes ago, Nookie Bear said:

Considering the condition of some Fir Park pitches in the past they would be well advised to shut up and get on with it. 

They have had some shocker pitches in the past, so aye get on with it.

[jamboinglasgow]

5 minutes ago, Nookie Bear said:

Considering the condition of some Fir Park pitches in the past they would be well advised to shut up and get on with it. 

 

To be fair, Motherwell actually did something to fix it and has been good since then.

[Nookie Bear]

11 minutes ago, jamboinglasgow said:

 

To be fair, Motherwell actually did something to fix it and has been good since then.

And Dundee will hopefully sort theirs. 
 

Clubs don’t have the money to do the most basic improvements - they just  gambled and lost. 

[Nookie Bear]

As a fan I would rather watch football on a poor grass pitch than a state of the art artificial pitch. 

[whodanny]

Just hope Spittal disnae get crocked.

[Armageddon]

Dundee v Motherwell game

and somehow Celtic are involved??? 
 

Dundee are a corrupt shambles 😂😂😂 Hope they die.

[Hearts of Vladland]

David Dickinson is a consultant for Sports Labs who look after football pitches, also the referee today. I wonder if Sports Labs were the consultants for Dundee trying to sort the pitch, if so, no chance that was getting called off today.

[periodictabledancer]

According to some on line chat I got from my lad, the drainage pipes at Dens are ony 4 inches below the surface ( apparently they're supposed to be much deeper) so the ground is filling from the bottom up and can't be drained. The shallowness of the level of the pipes means they can't even stick a garden fork in it because of the risk of damage. 

Edited April 6 by periodictabledancer

[hughesie27]

Pitch looks fine looking at the warm ups 

[Shooter McGavin]

Pitch looks fine to me 👍🏻

 

[Jim_Duncan]

57 minutes ago, Shooter McGavin said:

Pitch looks fine to me 👍🏻

 

 

Deteriorating slightly, though.

 

[naeclue]

Looking forward to Rangers complaining about the pitch after complaining when the game was postponed....

[The Treasurer]

Imagine the fall out if sevco either drop points or lose a player to injury, due to the state of the pitch 

[Deevers]

The pitch there has been a disgrace for decades. A tattie patch. They’ve done little or nothing to sort it out. 

Edited April 7 by Deevers

[theshed]

55 minutes ago, naeclue said:

Looking forward to Rangers complaining about the pitch after complaining when the game was postponed....

Unless they still have this cover they got from Celtic the game will probably be off. Weather warning for torrential rain on Tuesday so that will be the park unplayable again unless like I said this cover keeps the pitch dry 

[RobNox]

The real issue for me with this situation is that the SPFL were considering a contingency plan whereby the game would be played behind closed doors at a neutral venue if the pitch was deemed unplayable.  Reason being that they need to get all the fixtures played before making the post-split draw and they couldn't reschedule the game for this mid-week as Dundee are playing Rangers, so a postponed fixture would have to take place after the final weekend before the split. 

 

But, imagine if it was Rangers or Celtic who were due to face Dundee this past weekend.  Does anyone think that in a million years, the SPFL would have ordered the game to be played behind closed doors at a neutral venue if Dens was deemed to be unplayable?

 

[Jim_Duncan]

8 minutes ago, RobNox said:

The real issue for me with this situation is that the SPFL were considering a contingency plan whereby the game would be played behind closed doors at a neutral venue if the pitch was deemed unplayable.  Reason being that they need to get all the fixtures played before making the post-split draw and they couldn't reschedule the game for this mid-week as Dundee are playing Rangers, so a postponed fixture would have to take place after the final weekend before the split. 

 

But, imagine if it was Rangers or Celtic who were due to face Dundee this past weekend.  Does anyone think that in a million years, the SPFL would have ordered the game to be played behind closed doors at a neutral venue if Dens was deemed to be unplayable?

 

Highlights the farce that is the split. 
 

And, no, no way would they play a game behind closed doors if the OF were involved. 
 

Scottish football is run by and for two clubs. 

[RobNox]

4 hours ago, Deevers said:

The pitch there has been a disgrace for decades. A tattie patch. They’ve done little or nothing to sort it out. 

Stewart Kettlewell made a very valid point in my opinion when talking about the state of the pitch at Dundee.  Motherwell invested c £1.2m on a new pitch not so long ago, money which could have been invested in player signings.  Dundee have invested nothing to try an improve their pitch, so they gain an advantage in terms of playing budget, yet their pitch is a total disgrace.

[FarmerTweedy]

55 minutes ago, RobNox said:

Stewart Kettlewell made a very valid point in my opinion when talking about the state of the pitch at Dundee.  Motherwell invested c £1.2m on a new pitch not so long ago, money which could have been invested in player signings.  Dundee have invested nothing to try an improve their pitch, so they gain an advantage in terms of playing budget, yet their pitch is a total disgrace.

A few years ago, we were having a lot of problems with our pitch too. We completely relaid it at one point and within a few months it was in a terrible state again, as the problems literally went very deep, to knackered drainage and subsoil that had compounded to virtually concrete over decades. We spent around £1m to sort out our pitch.  It's clear that Dundee need to spend a similar amount on theirs, but don't want to with their planned move to a new stadium. 

[RobNox]

1 minute ago, FarmerTweedy said:

A few years ago, we were having a lot of problems with our pitch too. We completely relaid it at one point and within a few months it was in a terrible state again, as the problems literally went very deep, to knackered drainage and subsoil that had compounded to virtually concrete over decades. We spent around £1m to sort out our pitch.  It's clear that Dundee need to spend a similar amount on theirs, but don't want to with their planned move to a new stadium. 

You're absolutely right, our pitch was pretty bad for a long time, even despite re-laying it on more than one occasion.  The difference for us was when we invested in the hybrid pitch, it did indeed cost us around £1m, but our pitch now looks so much better.  Was talking about the same to one of my mates at the Killie game, the pitch looked in fantastic condition.

[Deevers]

8 hours ago, FarmerTweedy said:

A few years ago, we were having a lot of problems with our pitch too. We completely relaid it at one point and within a few months it was in a terrible state again, as the problems literally went very deep, to knackered drainage and subsoil that had compounded to virtually concrete over decades. We spent around £1m to sort out our pitch.  It's clear that Dundee need to spend a similar amount on theirs, but don't want to with their planned move to a new stadium. 

The move to any new stadium might be years away. The SFA should be putting a gun to their head with this. If it’s not sorted pronto they should be demoted. The pitch is an absolute disgrace.

[Thomaso]

A hybrid pitch should be mandatory in the SPL top league 

[Nookie Bear]

2 hours ago, Thomaso said:

A hybrid pitch should be mandatory in the SPL top league 

How much does it cost? Can’t remember what we paid.