boag1874 Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 2 hours ago, milky_26 said: the germans are in uproar as well regarding their kits and it also includes nike. every german kit has been made by adidas but from 2027 they will be made by nike. it is being said it is unpatriotic etc moving from a german manufacturer to an american one The thought of Germany not playing in an Adidas kit just doesn’t feel right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 Best comment I have seen on this is in of all places the Daily Telegraph. I would have expected outrage on the Farage etc scale. But "Too, too cross-making England beat Aberaijan 5-1 in the Under-21s yesteraday, with Harvey Elliott scoring twice.Perhqps Baku felt cholly , for his collar was turned up, hiding the cross on the new England kit. (Azerbaian's badge bears a little crescent). Those angry at the cross not being red, as on England's flag, should also condemmn the bad habit of supporters' St George's flags being overprinted with "England". It is a crime against vexillology. And this week's 130-page Football Governance Bill talks, surely mistakenly of "club crests". Crests are heraldic devices borne on top of helms (seldom worn on the football field). Everyone seems to be talking at cross purpses" Good to discover a new word and correct definition of a familliar one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannymack Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 23 hours ago, Alex MacDonald said: For decades they assumed the Union Jack was the English flag, thousands still do. Look at the footage of Wembley in 1966, how many St George’s Crosses are there? The vast majority are Union Jacks. For the Admiral England kits of the late 70’s and early 80’s, they’re white, blue and red, to tie in with the colours of the UJ. England introduced red into their kits in the late 1940s and continued to do so throughout the 1950s and onwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gorgie Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 Personally couldn't give a shit, don't care much for international football. I don't know or understand the reason for the change but from what ive seen on social media, those that love it are the type of people that think men can be women & women can be men. Those that hate it are right wing racists. Surely there is some middle ground? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bazzas right boot Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 7 minutes ago, The Gorgie said: Personally couldn't give a shit, don't care much for international football. I don't know or understand the reason for the change but from what ive seen on social media, those that love it are the type of people that think men can be women & women can be men. Those that hate it are right wing racists. Surely there is some middle ground? Nah, gotta pick a side and get REALLY angry about something that effects about 0.2% of the population and will not effect your life in any meaningful or tangible way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmaroon Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 6 hours ago, Gundermann said: Examples please? And being arrested while flying one of your flags there while also throwing nazi salutes, intimidating Muslims or beating up gay people doesn't count. So evey white person that happens to fly his countries flag comes under your f****** abomination of a post. The problem isn't the flag fliers, it's the knee-jerk arseholes who condemn everyone because there are a few idiots that do the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I P Knightley Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 8 hours ago, Tommy Brown said: This is the bit where I am lost. Why have Nike decided to put some stupid looking meaningless logo in it's place? The FA signed it off. If they didn't want it, they'd have said no to it. Their president must hate England; often seen wearing the red of Wales, so I understand. They've used crosses with the proportions of the St George flag loads of times with different colours and no one thought to weep over it. Good old social media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmaroon Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 9 hours ago, boag1874 said: WHIT Show an example of someone being arrested for waving a national flag? 9 hours ago, PortyJambo said: Do you, aye? 7 hours ago, Gundermann said: Examples please? And being arrested while flying one of your flags there while also throwing nazi salutes, intimidating Muslims or beating up gay people doesn't count. PS To Gundermann: One of "my " flags? What a judgemental cretinous knee-jerk comment. My flag is the St Andrews Cross, so stick your bigotry where the sun don't shine. You try to .ake a reasoned post and the rats come out from the intellectual darkness of there ideological stones. https://gbr01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fyoutube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DMz1fwd-lXn8%26si%3DuT_fA-nyeCf6No7O&data=05|02||603cf99cefbc45e5348f08dc4b669675|84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa|1|0|638468151193956823|Unknown|TWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D|0|||&sdata=roRhsqndgXstqWcvuKUnturrE%2BOzFoCg65dTqRE5RwM%3D&reserved=0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boag1874 Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 13 minutes ago, colinmaroon said: PS To Gundermann: One of "my " flags? What a judgemental cretinous knee-jerk comment. My flag is the St Andrews Cross, so stick your bigotry where the sun don't shine. You try to .ake a reasoned post and the rats come out from the intellectual darkness of there ideological stones. https://gbr01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fyoutube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DMz1fwd-lXn8%26si%3DuT_fA-nyeCf6No7O&data=05|02||603cf99cefbc45e5348f08dc4b669675|84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa|1|0|638468151193956823|Unknown|TWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D|0|||&sdata=roRhsqndgXstqWcvuKUnturrE%2BOzFoCg65dTqRE5RwM%3D&reserved=0 Ok so, absolutely 0 evidence that he’s been arrested for waving the national flag and not for causing bother then? Gotcha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr ewing Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 Where does the gold colour come from on the scarves and the commemorative flag? Looks like Motherwell colours 😍. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XB52 Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 1 hour ago, colinmaroon said: PS To Gundermann: One of "my " flags? What a judgemental cretinous knee-jerk comment. My flag is the St Andrews Cross, so stick your bigotry where the sun don't shine. You try to .ake a reasoned post and the rats come out from the intellectual darkness of there ideological stones. https://gbr01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fyoutube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DMz1fwd-lXn8%26si%3DuT_fA-nyeCf6No7O&data=05|02||603cf99cefbc45e5348f08dc4b669675|84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa|1|0|638468151193956823|Unknown|TWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D|0|||&sdata=roRhsqndgXstqWcvuKUnturrE%2BOzFoCg65dTqRE5RwM%3D&reserved=0 Go on a rant after getting pulled up for talking shite😀😀. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooperstar Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 1 hour ago, colinmaroon said: PS To Gundermann: One of "my " flags? What a judgemental cretinous knee-jerk comment. My flag is the St Andrews Cross, so stick your bigotry where the sun don't shine. You try to .ake a reasoned post and the rats come out from the intellectual darkness of there ideological stones. https://gbr01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fyoutube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DMz1fwd-lXn8%26si%3DuT_fA-nyeCf6No7O&data=05|02||603cf99cefbc45e5348f08dc4b669675|84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa|1|0|638468151193956823|Unknown|TWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D|0|||&sdata=roRhsqndgXstqWcvuKUnturrE%2BOzFoCg65dTqRE5RwM%3D&reserved=0 😂 ****in hell Colin! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hmfc1965 Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 1 hour ago, colinmaroon said: PS To Gundermann: One of "my " flags? What a judgemental cretinous knee-jerk comment. My flag is the St Andrews Cross, so stick your bigotry where the sun don't shine. You try to .ake a reasoned post and the rats come out from the intellectual darkness of there ideological stones. https://gbr01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fyoutube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DMz1fwd-lXn8%26si%3DuT_fA-nyeCf6No7O&data=05|02||603cf99cefbc45e5348f08dc4b669675|84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa|1|0|638468151193956823|Unknown|TWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D|0|||&sdata=roRhsqndgXstqWcvuKUnturrE%2BOzFoCg65dTqRE5RwM%3D&reserved=0 Do you really think your everybody arrested post was reasoned? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooks Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 1 hour ago, colinmaroon said: PS To Gundermann: One of "my " flags? What a judgemental cretinous knee-jerk comment. My flag is the St Andrews Cross, so stick your bigotry where the sun don't shine. You try to .ake a reasoned post and the rats come out from the intellectual darkness of there ideological stones. https://gbr01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fyoutube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DMz1fwd-lXn8%26si%3DuT_fA-nyeCf6No7O&data=05|02||603cf99cefbc45e5348f08dc4b669675|84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa|1|0|638468151193956823|Unknown|TWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D|0|||&sdata=roRhsqndgXstqWcvuKUnturrE%2BOzFoCg65dTqRE5RwM%3D&reserved=0 What was he arrested for ? Are you sure it was for waving a flag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooperstar Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 20 minutes ago, Sooks said: What was he arrested for ? Are you sure it was for waving a flag Didn't even wave it. Just had it on his person. Definitely did not try to cause bother by antagonising the group of Pro-Palestine protestors. Innocent mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooks Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 Just now, Sooperstar said: Didn't even wave it. Just had it on his person. Definitely did not try to cause bother by antagonising the group of Pro-Palestine protestors. Innocent mate. Thatchers Britain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 Back to worrying about the team now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 England beat at football. Tiny wee embroidered flag on the back of the shirt collar to blame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas-voss Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 6 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: Back to worrying about the team now. Watched a discussion about them earlier best forwards and attacking central midfielders in the world.Every team should fear them only concern who partners Stones. England nil 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 10 minutes ago, Cade said: England beat at football. Tiny wee embroidered flag on the back of the shirt collar to blame. Weighed them down 😆 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooks Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 44 minutes ago, Cade said: England beat at football. Tiny wee embroidered flag on the back of the shirt collar to blame. We all have them to bear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
periodictabledancer Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 51 minutes ago, Cade said: England beat at football. Tiny wee embroidered flag on the back of the shirt collar to blame. This guy.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the posh bit Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 Great to see they got pumped at home wearing their purple flags. ABE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malinga the Swinga Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 I believe Southgate has terrible record against top ten teams, 25% win rate, for England. Hope he stays long term. Can't understand why Man United would be looking at him as next manager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HopeDiouf Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 13 hours ago, colinmaroon said: PS To Gundermann: One of "my " flags? What a judgemental cretinous knee-jerk comment. My flag is the St Andrews Cross, so stick your bigotry where the sun don't shine. You try to .ake a reasoned post and the rats come out from the intellectual darkness of there ideological stones. https://gbr01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fyoutube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DMz1fwd-lXn8%26si%3DuT_fA-nyeCf6No7O&data=05|02||603cf99cefbc45e5348f08dc4b669675|84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa|1|0|638468151193956823|Unknown|TWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D|0|||&sdata=roRhsqndgXstqWcvuKUnturrE%2BOzFoCg65dTqRE5RwM%3D&reserved=0 Not very shocked to see you falling for wild conspiracy theories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gundermann Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 14 hours ago, colinmaroon said: So evey white person that happens to fly his countries flag comes under your f****** abomination of a post. The problem isn't the flag fliers, it's the knee-jerk arseholes who condemn everyone because there are a few idiots that do the same. That's some non-seqitur. You found any examples of arrests for flying those flags yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the posh bit Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 11 hours ago, Malinga the Swinga said: I believe Southgate has terrible record against top ten teams, 25% win rate, for England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ski Nae Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gundermann Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 54 minutes ago, Ski Nae said: Hehe! Beat me to it. Win, win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToadKiller Dog Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 A big banner planned about the issue at ibrox next weekend I hear . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 2 minutes ago, ToadKiller Dog said: A big banner planned about the issue at ibrox next weekend I hear . Very appropriate. 🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooks Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 1 minute ago, ToadKiller Dog said: A big banner planned about the issue at ibrox next weekend I hear . Hope so always good viewing when they make complete arseholes of themselves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Findlay Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 St George's country of birth. Then surely it's this flag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooks Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 2 minutes ago, John Findlay said: St George's country of birth. Then surely it's this flag. Interesting . Puts a whole new slant on when they sing that song about how they would rather be a Pakistani ( abbrev ) than a Turk , while decked out in shan wee plastic bowler hats with the main mans cross on them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_A wehatethehibs Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 27 minutes ago, John Findlay said: St George's country of birth. Then surely it's this flag. It was Greek at that time, meaning Englands new flag should actually be the St Andrews cross Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooks Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 Anyway back on topic . I like the progressive move away from the traditional with the wee flag . Would have maybe painted them in a different light to the almost global image of their travelling supporters being a bunch of violent bigoted morons , but unfortunately the reaction has put the kybosh on that . Never mind , it probably would not have changed most peoples views of them anyway ABE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionDJambo Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 In my opinion, it wouldn't do any harm to stop playing national anthems before, or after, a football match, or any other sporting event. Too much nationalism in sport, flags on football strips are an probably an unnecessary addition. They already have the crests of the football associations on them. Not worth getting worked up about. I'm particularly mystified as to why they have the national anthems of both the winning driver and country of origin of the winning car in Formula 1. Many of the car manufacturers don't operate their Formula 1 teams from the country from which the car is branded either. Mind you, it used to always amuse me to hear the British and German anthems being played when Hamilton was winning regularly. Goodness knows how some English fans coped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDK2020 Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 On 22/03/2024 at 17:21, Pasquale for King said: Hilarious, they also struggle to tell the difference between their two flags and both political parties have changed the colours over the years. What a trivial thing to get worked up about but tells you everything you need to know about them. Trivial? Have you seen our dressing room floor thread yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JG_1874 Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 Could you imagine if the St Andrews Cross was changed on the Scotland Top!!! The clans would be burning Westminster down claiming it was their fault!! Whatever the intentions of the FA & Nike where it’s not going down well with the fans, however let’s see if the sell out or just take up shelf space! meanwhile the folk calling England Fans as snowflakes are the same on the Rangers Logo challenge giving it all sorts ! a lot more going on in the world than a flag or logo ffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westbow Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 21 hours ago, SectionDJambo said: In my opinion, it wouldn't do any harm to stop playing national anthems before, or after, a football match, or any other sporting event. Too much nationalism in sport, flags on football strips are an probably an unnecessary addition. They already have the crests of the football associations on them. Not worth getting worked up about. I'm particularly mystified as to why they have the national anthems of both the winning driver and country of origin of the winning car in Formula 1. Many of the car manufacturers don't operate their Formula 1 teams from the country from which the car is branded either. Mind you, it used to always amuse me to hear the British and German anthems being played when Hamilton was winning regularly. Goodness knows how some English fans coped. The nationalism only becomes a problem when certain types of individual attach themselves to it. Never seems to kick off with spectators at the olympics with counties that despise each other (guaranteed someone is frantically searching examples to contrary). You see a lot of flags in town hanging from peoples windows. Usually been there a while, a bit ragged and manky looking. Strange way of professing their love for a country or cause. My favourite though is grown adults tying a flag round their neck and wearing it like a cape, I mean, do they check the mirror when leaving the house saying "looking gooood" and maybe doing the finger gun thing? In conclusion, anyone getting worked up about flags should maybe clean the window panes once in a while- they look gross. Same goes for stickers in cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmiyaHearts Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 German fans meltdown over Nike, England fans meltdown over a cross and even our own board releasing a statement over a sticker / cloth. The football World is infested by fragile minds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooks Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 3 hours ago, JG_1874 said: Could you imagine if the St Andrews Cross was changed on the Scotland Top!!! The clans would be burning Westminster down claiming it was their fault!! Whatever the intentions of the FA & Nike where it’s not going down well with the fans, however let’s see if the sell out or just take up shelf space! meanwhile the folk calling England Fans as snowflakes are the same on the Rangers Logo challenge giving it all sorts ! a lot more going on in the world than a flag or logo ffs Nobody gave a flying **** when Diadora changed the Scotland flag on our strip a few years ago . What are you talking about ? Nobody would care Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannymack Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 On 23/03/2024 at 15:38, boag1874 said: The thought of Germany not playing in an Adidas kit just doesn’t feel right A bit like Austria and Puma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannymack Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 DEARY ****ING ME !!! 🤣🤣🤣 This lot are absolutely bonkers !!!! Certified " not right in the heed " Hope Isreal bring out a maroon and white Star of Davie kit for next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooks Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 12 minutes ago, dannymack said: DEARY ****ING ME !!! 🤣🤣🤣 This lot are absolutely bonkers !!!! Certified " not right in the heed " Hope Isreal bring out a maroon and white Star of Davie kit for next season. I feel very sorry for what has happened to the Palestinian people with pretty much no say whatsoever in their fate . Their land just handed over from their colonial masters in the UK via the UN to USA backed Israel . Can you imagine being a normal Palestinian guy just trying your best to make bread for your family in a poor desert area ? Then all of a sudden the land that your family has scratched a living on going back millennia is suddenly tossed from one new owner to the next ? Awful The utter garbage that some moron is making and selling to idiot Celtic fans in your post is akin to spivs in wartime I think it totally cheapens the desecration of human rights , genocide , and terrorist actions of those on Hamas and Israels side to produce and profit from garbage like this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooperstar Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 2 hours ago, Sooks said: I feel very sorry for what has happened to the Palestinian people with pretty much no say whatsoever in their fate . Their land just handed over from their colonial masters in the UK via the UN to USA backed Israel . Can you imagine being a normal Palestinian guy just trying your best to make bread for your family in a poor desert area ? Then all of a sudden the land that your family has scratched a living on going back millennia is suddenly tossed from one new owner to the next ? Awful The utter garbage that some moron is making and selling to idiot Celtic fans in your post is akin to spivs in wartime I think it totally cheapens the desecration of human rights , genocide , and terrorist actions of those on Hamas and Israels side to produce and profit from garbage like this Decent wee earner though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim_Duncan Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 3 hours ago, dannymack said: DEARY ****ING ME !!! 🤣🤣🤣 This lot are absolutely bonkers !!!! Certified " not right in the heed " Hope Isreal bring out a maroon and white Star of Davie kit for next season. Maybe all the plucky Irish freedom fighters in the GB will wear them when they’re over in Gaza fighting for the cause? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim_Duncan Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 2 hours ago, Sooks said: I feel very sorry for what has happened to the Palestinian people with pretty much no say whatsoever in their fate . Their land just handed over from their colonial masters in the UK via the UN to USA backed Israel . Can you imagine being a normal Palestinian guy just trying your best to make bread for your family in a poor desert area ? Then all of a sudden the land that your family has scratched a living on going back millennia is suddenly tossed from one new owner to the next ? Awful The utter garbage that some moron is making and selling to idiot Celtic fans in your post is akin to spivs in wartime I think it totally cheapens the desecration of human rights , genocide , and terrorist actions of those on Hamas and Israels side to produce and profit from garbage like this I was thinking of selling half and half Celtic/ISIS ones. You fancy getting in for 20%? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonel Kurtz Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 7 minutes ago, Jim_Duncan said: I was thinking of selling half and half Celtic/ISIS ones. You fancy getting in for 20%? They had a IRA/ETA ONE struggle banner in Spain tears ago THen honestly couldnt grasp why the Guarda Civil knocked lumps out of them THey also thought they would be well received in Barcelona despite thebrown shirts being blessed by the catholic as they sailed out of Galway Despiite also what they believe the International Brigade were just that There used to be a monument to THeEDinburgh dead which was removed to make way for a Polish bear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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