Footballfirst Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 (edited) A series of stills from the highlights show the poor decision making by Clark. Ball played over the top, Clark already looking to retreat. A few frames later, Halkett is signalling that Clark should be out to clear. The ball is maybe 5 yards from the box, with Duk further away from the ball, but with the closing distance in favour of Clark. Duk finally gets within playing distance of the ball. It's inside the box FFS. It should have been an easy clearance. Edited December 9, 2023 by Footballfirst Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PapaShango Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 24 minutes ago, Footballfirst said: A series of stills from the highlights show the poor decision making by Clark. Ball played over the top, Clark already looking to retreat. A few frames later, Halkett is signalling that Clark should be out to clear. The ball is maybe 5 yards from the box, with Duk further away from the ball, but with the closing distance in favour of Clark. Duk finally gets within playing distance of the ball. It's inside the box FFS. It should have been an easy clearance. It’s the keepers ball all day long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzyonthefence Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 27 minutes ago, Footballfirst said: A series of stills from the highlights show the poor decision making by Clark. Ball played over the top, Clark already looking to retreat. A few frames later, Halkett is signalling that Clark should be out to clear. The ball is maybe 5 yards from the box, with Duk further away from the ball, but with the closing distance in favour of Clark. Duk finally gets within playing distance of the ball. It's inside the box FFS. It should have been an easy clearance. Christ, the ball virtually ended up in the same spot in the box where Clark was standing in the first place, ffs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gorgierulesapply88 Posted December 9, 2023 Author Share Posted December 9, 2023 37 minutes ago, Footballfirst said: A series of stills from the highlights show the poor decision making by Clark. Ball played over the top, Clark already looking to retreat. A few frames later, Halkett is signalling that Clark should be out to clear. The ball is maybe 5 yards from the box, with Duk further away from the ball, but with the closing distance in favour of Clark. Duk finally gets within playing distance of the ball. It's inside the box FFS. It should have been an easy clearance. But but but I'm wrong and it wasn't his fault 🤣🤣🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gorgierulesapply88 Posted December 9, 2023 Author Share Posted December 9, 2023 (edited) 41 minutes ago, Footballfirst said: A series of stills from the highlights show the poor decision making by Clark. Ball played over the top, Clark already looking to retreat. A few frames later, Halkett is signalling that Clark should be out to clear. The ball is maybe 5 yards from the box, with Duk further away from the ball, but with the closing distance in favour of Clark. Duk finally gets within playing distance of the ball. It's inside the box FFS. It should have been an easy clearance. @Scott Leitch @basscomstill laughing? Edited December 9, 2023 by gorgierulesapply88 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Leitch Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 5 minutes ago, gorgierulesapply88 said: @Scott Leitch @basscomstill laughing? I mind that picture in the sun of Rudi spitting at Lennon... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruickie's Moustache Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 Similar to Wednesday. My view is that there is an overall problem with modern goal keeping coaching. In day gone by keepers weren't afraid to rush out and go head first into an attackers feet. If needed outside the box a striker may get the old Schumacher treatment. These day they are coached to move out, plant and try make themselves big. Not saying that is wholly wrong but some goalies have forgotten that there are times, as the last man, you just have to get to the ball and commit everything you have at stopping the attacker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gorgierulesapply88 Posted December 9, 2023 Author Share Posted December 9, 2023 4 minutes ago, Cruickie's Moustache said: Similar to Wednesday. My view is that there is an overall problem with modern goal keeping coaching. In day gone by keepers weren't afraid to rush out and go head first into an attackers feet. If needed outside the box a striker may get the old Schumacher treatment. These day they are coached to move out, plant and try make themselves big. Not saying that is wholly wrong but some goalies have forgotten that there are times, as the last man, you just have to get to the ball and commit everything you have at stopping the attacker. Paul Gallagher, may or may not be a good GK Coach. He was a mediocre GK at best. Much like Zander Clark. We've changed coaches in the backroom staff and he's one who's always survived. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malinga the Swinga Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Footballfirst said: A series of stills from the highlights show the poor decision making by Clark. Ball played over the top, Clark already looking to retreat. A few frames later, Halkett is signalling that Clark should be out to clear. The ball is maybe 5 yards from the box, with Duk further away from the ball, but with the closing distance in favour of Clark. Duk finally gets within playing distance of the ball. It's inside the box FFS. It should have been an easy clearance. A 10 step jog along box and he could have waited to simply pick it up. Alternatively, a jog out and blooter it out the park. What he shouldn't have done is run backwards Edited December 9, 2023 by Malinga the Swinga Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruickie's Moustache Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 6 minutes ago, gorgierulesapply88 said: Paul Gallagher, may or may not be a good GK Coach. He was a mediocre GK at best. Much like Zander Clark. We've changed coaches in the backroom staff and he's one who's always survived. Not sure it's Gallagher who is the issue. Just an overall change in the coaching philosophy. It will be the way It's coached these days for getting your badges and doing CPD etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 He’s utter shit. The third Huns goal in the League Cup semi was an embarrassment. Tavenier basically told him exactly where he was hitting it and then stuck it in that corner. Clark went the other way. Mutant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hearts00 Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 Oh man, now I see that again, that is terrible from Clark. On back of a shocker during the week. Times up mate, CG has to he back in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Famous 1874 Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 Goalies ball all day for their winner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diadora Van Basten Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Footballfirst said: A series of stills from the highlights show the poor decision making by Clark. Ball played over the top, Clark already looking to retreat. A few frames later, Halkett is signalling that Clark should be out to clear. The ball is maybe 5 yards from the box, with Duk further away from the ball, but with the closing distance in favour of Clark. Duk finally gets within playing distance of the ball. It's inside the box FFS. It should have been an easy clearance. As bad as Marshall at the Humphries goal at Tynecastle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 He was standing a yard away from where Duk first touched the ball at the 2nd goal, thats two goals in two games he’s been out of position that’s cost us two draws. I would honestly sell him in January if anyone would have him, unlikely as that may sound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saxondale Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 I'm not his biggest fan, but a bizarre time to dedicate a thread to him. He pulled off one very good stop today, and he was not too blame for the winner (although he did hesitate, but ultimately he made the right decision to get back on his line - he wouldn't have got there before Duk if he came out all the way). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flem Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 Get him to ****. Hearts number 1 is craig Gordon as soon as he is fit this imposter doesn’t get a look in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruickie's Moustache Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 22 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: He was standing a yard away from where Duk first touched the ball at the 2nd goal, thats two goals in two games he’s been out of position that’s cost us two draws. I would honestly sell him in January if anyone would have him, unlikely as that may sound. Sorry to be a pedant but Clark was actually in a good position. He just failed to capitalise on it and, especially today, moved himself inexplicably out of that decent position into a worse one !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzyonthefence Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 4 minutes ago, saxondale said: I'm not his biggest fan, but a bizarre time to dedicate a thread to him. He pulled off one very good stop today, and he was not too blame for the winner (although he did hesitate, but ultimately he made the right decision to get back on his line - he wouldn't have got there before Duk if he came out all the way). He was already there and just had to stay there to simply pick the ball up! See above pics! 100% his fault. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 Just now, Cruickie's Moustache said: Sorry to be a pedant but Clark was actually in a good position. He just failed to capitalise on it and, especially today, moved himself inexplicably out of that decent position into a worse one !!! Fair point, but then moved out of position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 7 minutes ago, saxondale said: I'm not his biggest fan, but a bizarre time to dedicate a thread to him. He pulled off one very good stop today, and he was not too blame for the winner (although he did hesitate, but ultimately he made the right decision to get back on his line - he wouldn't have got there before Duk if he came out all the way). Nonsense, he was two steps from where the ball was touched by Duk, the save was bog standard from a CHs shot 30 yards out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruickie's Moustache Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 6 minutes ago, saxondale said: I'm not his biggest fan, but a bizarre time to dedicate a thread to him. He pulled off one very good stop today, and he was not too blame for the winner (although he did hesitate, but ultimately he made the right decision to get back on his line - he wouldn't have got there before Duk if he came out all the way). Have given Clark the benefit of the doubt for long enough and was happy to see him sign as our back up. While he has had some decent saves lately, his decision making is clearly poor in a number of situations and, if he is fit, Gordon needs to be given the shout to see if he still has something to offer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Bishop Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 6 hours ago, Bauld said: Nobody going to mention Halkett was thrown on, away from home, in those conditions, After a year out. And got rinsed for pace in the lead up to their goal. Naismith did it to Beni in Europe. He just did it to Halkett again. This 100%!!! What was the thinking behind this? Ridiculous decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saxondale Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: Nonsense, he was two steps from where the ball was touched by Duk, the save was bog standard from a CHs shot 30 yards out. I disagree, as do the pundits, journalists and commentators. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saxondale Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, Cruickie's Moustache said: Have given Clark the benefit of the doubt for long enough and was happy to see him sign as our back up. While he has had some decent saves lately, his decision making is clearly poor in a number of situations and, if he is fit, Gordon needs to be given the shout to see if he still has something to offer. I agree, Gordon is clearly considerably better than Clark. He's a more than capable backup though and clearly not as bad as most like to make out; otherwise, he would be nowhere near the Scotland squad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrystaf Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 5 hours ago, davemclaren said: I agree, our main problems are further forward than Zander Clark. And of course that merely elevates Clark's mistakes to "cost us the match" level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 9 minutes ago, saxondale said: I disagree, as do the pundits, journalists and commentators. Yeah you and them are all seeing all knowing, plenty Hearts fans on this thread seem to know the truth. Can you list the pundits, journalists and commentators that said that and show us the proof? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 12 minutes ago, saxondale said: I agree, Gordon is clearly considerably better than Clark. He's a more than capable backup though and clearly not as bad as most like to make out; otherwise, he would be nowhere near the Scotland squad. Who else would take his place in the Scotland squad? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 2 hours ago, Footballfirst said: A series of stills from the highlights show the poor decision making by Clark. Ball played over the top, Clark already looking to retreat. A few frames later, Halkett is signalling that Clark should be out to clear. The ball is maybe 5 yards from the box, with Duk further away from the ball, but with the closing distance in favour of Clark. Duk finally gets within playing distance of the ball. It's inside the box FFS. It should have been an easy clearance. Definitely, another goal hes cost us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 6 hours ago, Bauld said: Nobody going to mention Halkett was thrown on, away from home, in those conditions, After a year out. And got rinsed for pace in the lead up to their goal. Naismith did it to Beni in Europe. He just did it to Halkett again. He did it to Atkinson on Wednesday too. For someone that complained about CL rushing him back from injury he certainly throws players in far too quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull's-eye Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 So many experts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozjambo Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 6 hours ago, Boyces beard said: Tagawa, Halks and Rowles all should do better leading up to there winner Correct it all started with Tagawa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticJambo Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 6 hours ago, Philfigo said: Poor he was nearly at the ball before deciding to run back the way. Sad state of affairs when we are hoping that a 40 year old can recover enough to replace him. He's costing us goals now so needs dropped. so true! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saxondale Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 17 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: Yeah you and them are all seeing all knowing, plenty Hearts fans on this thread seem to know the truth. Can you list the pundits, journalists and commentators that said that and show us the proof? The difference is the pundits, journalists and commentators are impartial, most Hearts fans aren't. Go and look yourself, I'm not listing every person that supports my opinion. It won't be hard to find. I didn't say there was proof either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 Costs us too many goals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticJambo Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 6 hours ago, feedthefox said: Absolute nonsense, Gordon not saving either of the goals today. Check out Cochrane as per usual in absolute no man's land jogging back. so true! Every game, it's quite comical really, no wonder he must be ****ed from all that jogging overb to take corners and long throws! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saxondale Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 20 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: Who else would take his place in the Scotland squad? Another Scottish goalkeeper. I'm sure Steve Clarke could quite easily find someone to replace the 'dreadful' Zander Clark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carter Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 6 hours ago, Bauld said: Nobody going to mention Halkett was thrown on, away from home, in those conditions, After a year out. And got rinsed for pace in the lead up to their goal. Naismith did it to Beni in Europe. He just did it to Halkett again. Horrendous viewing. Appreciate the lad has been out for almost a year but that was horrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS86 Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 Not seen the game/highlights yet but my Dad suggest time for Gordon to return. Had an awful flap vs Rangers but got away with it. Zander isn't an awful keeper and I think we're somewhat spoiled having CG. But if he's fit he is back! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 5 minutes ago, saxondale said: Another Scottish goalkeeper. I'm sure Steve Clarke could quite easily find someone to replace the 'dreadful' Zander Clark. Name one? There is a dearth hence a guy who couldn’t find a club all summer was still available by September. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 8 minutes ago, saxondale said: The difference is the pundits, journalists and commentators are impartial, most Hearts fans aren't. Go and look yourself, I'm not listing every person that supports my opinion. It won't be hard to find. I didn't say there was proof either. Who? Name them? Not sportscene, not BBC online. You’re making things up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amadjambo Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 7 minutes ago, ArcticJambo said: so true! Every game, it's quite comical really, no wonder he must be ****ed from all that jogging overb to take corners and long throws! Cochrane is absolutely honking. Cant defend any ball over the top, and routinely gets caught wrong side of his man, or just jogging back instead of busting a gut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 8 minutes ago, ArcticJambo said: so true! Every game, it's quite comical really, no wonder he must be ****ed from all that jogging overb to take corners and long throws! He thinks hes a world beater, can’t defend to save himself and his crosses are usually poor. Never at fault and vastly overrated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amadjambo Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 Last season our big defensive weakness was any cross into the box. Now our glaring weakness is any long ball over the top. Rowles and Cochrane aren’t good enough, either is Clark. And we don’t have a single decent right back at the club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticJambo Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 Just now, amadjambo said: Cochrane is absolutely honking. Cant defend any ball over the top, and routinely gets caught wrong side of his man, or just jogging back instead of busting a gut. It's strange coz when he initially came, defending was the only thing I thought as a plus (well, when in a flat back 4), then he had a couple of games where he scored and laid on an assist and he was suddenly Marcelo but worse than the Brazillian in tracking back but everybody still saw Marcelo the attacker! Fuvk knows, I don't get it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DS98 Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 Times up for Zander I’m afraid. He’s had a year to convince us he’s good enough to be our number 1 and he’s not taken his chance. You wouldn’t play Boyce up front and have Shankland on the bench, you wouldn’t play Sibbick centre half with a fit Frankie Kent available and we should not be persisting with Clark when we have Craig Gordon. It’s that simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 4 minutes ago, amadjambo said: Cochrane is absolutely honking. Cant defend any ball over the top, and routinely gets caught wrong side of his man, or just jogging back instead of busting a gut. Absolutely. Only one red card away from equalling the club record of 5 by any player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticJambo Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 3 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: He thinks hes a world beater, can’t defend to save himself and his crosses are usually poor. Never at fault and vastly overrated. Yip, unfortunately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saxondale Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 7 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: Name one? There is a dearth hence a guy who couldn’t find a club all summer was still available by September. Naw, I'll leave that to Clarke and his staff who I'm sure are far more knowledgeable about that than you or I. Be honest, were you relatively pleased when you heard we signed Clark in the summer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amadjambo Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, ArcticJambo said: It's strange coz when he initially came, defending was the only thing I thought as a plus (well, when in a flat back 4), then he had a couple of games where he scored and laid on an assist and he was suddenly Marcelo but worse than the Brazillian in tracking back but everybody still saw Marcelo the attacker! Fuvk knows, I don't get it! Also baffles me why Cochrane and Sibbick are so utter shite in the air. Both big athletic lads and cant jump for a header to save themselves. Edited December 10, 2023 by amadjambo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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