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Should Naismith , Mcavoy and Forrest be sacked?  

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Just now, Dazo said:


Yep, shot in the dark much like Barry Anderson’s shite that now has the board room unrest as fact. 

More than likely. After the guy Borthwick’s WhatsApp thing went public, everyone else is just putting a spin on it and adding bits on imo. 

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5 minutes ago, superjack said:

Summed up my thoughts perfectly. I'd be happy with either mcinnes or Robinson.

Once I tagged you, I realised that you already answered why not. However, surely as an up and coming manager, I club like hearts would be the logical next step for him.

What are the 2 strikes against him you mentioned?

 

See post above, 2 sendings off, both v Rangers, both for sectarian language

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6 hours ago, hughesie27 said:

Typical timing from Hearts as usual when we've just missed out on the chance of getting Levein in to steady the ship till the end of the season.

And Robbie’s gone on a three week holiday at the same time 😂😂

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21 minutes ago, GinRummy said:

More than likely. After the guy Borthwick’s WhatsApp thing went public, everyone else is just putting a spin on it and adding bits on imo. 


It really underlines the general anger and frustration though. So many people including at least some within the club (possibly board room and dressing room) just so fed up with the entire situation. A situation that is totally self inflicted and unnecessary. 

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4 hours ago, TallPaul said:

All the wrong reasons to appoint a manager. Hopefully next time around the board pay no attention to this place.

Cathro, Stendel, Naismith all heavily supported for the managers job on here. All failed

Hopefully whoever is selecting the next manager takes a look on here for who they shouldn’t go for. 

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4 minutes ago, Luckies1874 said:


It really underlines the general anger and frustration though. So many people including at least some within the club (possibly board room and dressing room) just so fed up with the entire situation. A situation that is totally self inflicted and unnecessary. 

I think it’ll be this week he leaves. To be honest, I think we are at the stage where we are just wasting time if we leave it any longer. 

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36 minutes ago, GinRummy said:

I think it’ll be this week he leaves. To be honest, I think we are at the stage where we are just wasting time if we leave it any longer. 

 

You might be right chief. 

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5 hours ago, Jamhammer said:

I think, because he was so competitive and passionate as a player we, including me expected that to translate into an exciting young manager who would get rid of the slow, passive, ponderous football we’ve been watching under Levein and RN

Sadly it seems to be ingrained now.

He seems, after games to just accept the effort and lack of fight 

Agree that those were the positives.

While we can all point to his inexperience, you have to wonder what the players are thinking?

 

You are in a cup semi against a team that you have just played, so you know exactly what's coming.

Yet, once again, we were second to every loose ball on Sunday. 

The difference in desire was obvious. Only a few in Maroon seemed to be going for it.

 

If the players can't motivate themselves to be up for a bit of silverware when you already know its a poor Aberdeen in the Final then it doesn't really matter who the manager is.  

 

While I accept we don't have the same skill level as T'Rangers, I can't see any excuse for not busting a gut.

 

It doesn't take Pep or whoever to tell players to concentrate for 90 minutes and challenge for everything.

 

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14 minutes ago, RustyRightPeg said:


5 year extension if they’re reporting it

 

:D 

 

Ah, so you've seen their tweets before? :P 

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1 hour ago, soonbe110 said:

Cathro, Stendel, Naismith all heavily supported for the managers job on here. All failed

Hopefully whoever is selecting the next manager takes a look on here for who they shouldn’t go for. 

Cathro and Stendel had experience to suggest they were suitable. Naismith was complete stupidity 

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1 minute ago, TallPaul said:

Cathro and Stendel had experience to suggest they were suitable. Naismith was complete stupidity 

Cathro didn’t as the main man.

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2 minutes ago, OTT said:

 

:D 

 

Ah, so you've seen their tweets before? :P 


Still waiting on Sam Nicholson arriving from their exclusive from 3 years ago. 
 

Also, they’ve turned off the replies on the post so they can’t be called out 😂

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3 minutes ago, Paolo said:

Cathro didn’t as the main man.

Yes but he had a very impressive coaching background. Naismith didn't even have a mediocre one

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1 minute ago, Paolo said:

Cathro didn’t as the main man.

 

He was regarded as some sort of coaching wonderkid, so it was a fair enough punt for us - had he not been touted for the Rangers job prior too?

 

There are certain times a punt is acceptable, Levein was hot off the press with Robbie - a young coach he'd helped on his way. Bad as it turned out, I genuinely can't grudge the club for giving Cathro a shot - I do think the way it was handled should have been better - could Levein had stepped in with Cathro as his #2 and then stepped back in the summer? Robbie left midseason, so this could have worked. Get Cathro bedded in, reviewing the squad he was about to inherit etc. Instead, he went in at the deep end and it went tits up.

 

(I'm not saying my suggestion would have ended any better, but it would have at least allowed him to bed himself in and get familiar with everyone before taking the reigns. 

 

 

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1 minute ago, TallPaul said:

Yes but he had a very impressive coaching background. Naismith didn't even have a mediocre one

He did, but it is not the same thing. McGlynn was highly respected as a coach. 

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1 minute ago, Paolo said:

He did, but it is not the same thing. McGlynn was highly respected as a coach. 

Point being he had something to suggest you would consider him. Naismith had absolutely nothing to suggest he should have ever been in contention 

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2 minutes ago, TallPaul said:

Point being he had something to suggest you would consider him. Naismith had absolutely nothing to suggest he should have ever been in contention 

On that point, I agree.  Naismith was a Lowland League manager, and one with an OK (not great) record. If Hibs had appointed a manager from that league, we would have taken the absolute piss out of them.

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7 hours ago, Leisham38 said:

The ironic thing is the fans would kick off if this was the case. He has a better cv than Naismith and is doing a better job than Naismith was doing in the same job.

How so many vocal fans thought SN was the answer will always amaze me

 

Best I can figure is the same reason some folks actually miss Vlad. Some just love a WUM, and Naismith was an outstanding one at that as a player.

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17 minutes ago, OTT said:

He was regarded as some sort of coaching wonderkid, so it was a fair enough punt for us - had he not been touted for the Rangers job prior too?

 

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23 hours ago, Cruickie's Moustache said:

Agree that those were the positives.

While we can all point to his inexperience, you have to wonder what the players are thinking?

 

You are in a cup semi against a team that you have just played, so you know exactly what's coming.

Yet, once again, we were second to every loose ball on Sunday. 

The difference in desire was obvious. Only a few in Maroon seemed to be going for it.

 

If the players can't motivate themselves to be up for a bit of silverware when you already know its a poor Aberdeen in the Final then it doesn't really matter who the manager is.  

 

While I accept we don't have the same skill level as T'Rangers, I can't see any excuse for not busting a gut.

 

It doesn't take Pep or whoever to tell players to concentrate for 90 minutes and challenge for everything.

 

This is my biggest bugbear

No team. None. Should come to Tynecastle and have more fight and desire than Hearts. Should not happen 

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Can we give Naismith a bit of breathing space now?  
Not World-beating and did allow them back into it towards the end but overall good team selection. Good set-up. No wild subs. 
it should have been over earlier with either of the pens.  
Maybe, just maybe, the YTS, unqualified manager might have something about him. 
Sitting 4th. We’re 0-0 in Cup semi last week against Rangers at half time. Game to catch up Dundee at home. 
Hardly pitchfork level?  

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Ricardo Quaresma
On 07/11/2023 at 16:22, Dazo said:


Yep, shot in the dark much like Barry Anderson’s shite that now has the board room unrest as fact. 

 

Yeah, noticed that

 

Snivelling wee ginger *****

 

The articles are all a blatant synthesis of the content on here

 

Shameful stuff from him 👎

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14 minutes ago, Helter Skelter said:

Naismith is going nowhere. A shake up is coming in January.

Onwards and upwards then?

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On 07/11/2023 at 18:19, Paolo said:

On that point, I agree.  Naismith was a Lowland League manager, and one with an OK (not great) record. If Hibs had appointed a manager from that league, we would have taken the absolute piss out of them.

What level of Coach was Alex MacDonald, Sandy Jardine or indeed Robie Nielson?

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34 minutes ago, Helter Skelter said:

Naismith is going nowhere. A shake up is coming in January.

 

So are we going to see a number of players leave? Will be intriguing to see what happens (and if we are looking to move on players, how easy they are to shift.)

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38 minutes ago, Helter Skelter said:

Naismith is going nowhere. A shake up is coming in January.

 

Ooooh are we going to supply catering to Heriots too.

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2 hours ago, Sid said:

Can we give Naismith a bit of breathing space now?  
Not World-beating and did allow them back into it towards the end but overall good team selection. Good set-up. No wild subs. 
it should have been over earlier with either of the pens.  
Maybe, just maybe, the YTS, unqualified manager might have something about him. 
Sitting 4th. We’re 0-0 in Cup semi last week against Rangers at half time. Game to catch up Dundee at home. 
Hardly pitchfork level?  

 

Agree with this however I don't think we 'allowed' them back in. They were awarded a very fortunate albeit fair penalty which came from nothing, they didn't do much thereafter and we saw the game out very comfortably. 

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On 07/11/2023 at 18:19, Paolo said:

On that point, I agree.  Naismith was a Lowland League manager, and one with an OK (not great) record. If Hibs had appointed a manager from that league, we would have taken the absolute piss out of them.


The Lowland League manager chat is pretty funny.  Not like he was a Scotland coach with Clarke or coach with with the Hearts team first or 50 caps Hall of Famer or anything.  If Hibs had appointed Neilson before he got his first Hearts gig we really would have taken the piss though wouldn’t we?  That worked out not too bad on the whole and Naismith will do fine too if he’s given time. 

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2 hours ago, stuart500 said:

Not a great day for Robinson or McInnes. 

pwopa managers with badges for sheriff badges 

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Since the very low point of Celtic at home , I have turned around a bit . The games since then have been very different types of matches to each other and they have done okay to really well in them

 

Rangers at Ibrox was a gutsy narrow defeat to a better team

 

Livingston at home was a tough nut to crack with all their players defending 

 

Rangers at Hampden was a really good first half but eventually Rangers clicked and we were broken down

 

Motherwell away was a good old fashioned ding dong against a team of absolute cloggers 

 

They have adapted well to the different challenges and they deserve credit for that . Keep this up and we could have a decent season .
 

Humble pie being prepared as I speak , and oven being brought up to temperature 

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