hmfcbilly Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 Anyone else note the irony of Russia voting for a cease fire in Gaza yet continue to attack and kill innocent Ukrainians? It almost feels like the Ukrainians have been forgotten about and the folk who once flew their flags in solidarity in the UK or changed their Facebook profile photo have swapped the yellow and blue for a Palestinian flag. For me, all wars result in the same thing....thousands and thousands of innocent people just like you and me, die as a result of whatever political/religious/financial people in power decide to fight over. No winners ultimately Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diadora Van Basten Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 (edited) 2 hours ago, Boab said: I think they will too but I really do think the yanks have to take seriously the lunatic ramblings of the far right in Israel when they talk of removing all Palestinians from…em…Palestine ! As I said, a good start for the yanks would be to use their extensive knowledge and expertise in regime change and get Likud out before it’s too late. This isn’t a far off conflict regardless of what the nitwits on here think. It’s funny but whenever I think I have seen the most fascist, right wing psychopathic, Israeli politician or spokesperson … along comes another one who is even more extreme. Suella Braverman and Priti Patel would be classed as lefties if they were in the Israeli government. Edited March 25 by Diadora Van Basten Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionDJambo Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 9 hours ago, hmfcbilly said: Anyone else note the irony of Russia voting for a cease fire in Gaza yet continue to attack and kill innocent Ukrainians? It almost feels like the Ukrainians have been forgotten about and the folk who once flew their flags in solidarity in the UK or changed their Facebook profile photo have swapped the yellow and blue for a Palestinian flag. For me, all wars result in the same thing....thousands and thousands of innocent people just like you and me, die as a result of whatever political/religious/financial people in power decide to fight over. No winners ultimately The Russians will be pleased that their pals in Iran got Hamas to provide a complete distraction from their assault on the civilians in Ukraine. It doesn't matter to them that Israel gave the expected response without any regard to other civilian lives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmfcbilly Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 1 hour ago, SectionDJambo said: The Russians will be pleased that their pals in Iran got Hamas to provide a complete distraction from their assault on the civilians in Ukraine. It doesn't matter to them that Israel gave the expected response without any regard to other civilian lives. I watched 20 days in Mauripol recently. Was a hard watch,nearly put hit off a few times but glad I stuck with it. Thought the least I could do was watch it given what the innocent Ukrainian civilians are going through. Watched Ukraines war, the other side too where the journalist shadowed the Russian military. What I've taken after watching both, is that many Russians are convinced the Ukrainian go ernmrnt are a bunch of Nazi's who are being controlled by the US and the Russisns are simply going into areas of Ukraine that are pro Russian and want liberated. Imnsure there may be some element of truth in that for some folk, but I'm not convinced I can believe much that comes from a guy who abuses his power and does whatever he needs to to stay in charge at all costs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psychedelicropcircle Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 Nazinatu will be binned shortly. Thinking he could strong arm America. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il Duce McTarkin Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 16 hours ago, Psychedelicropcircle said: Nazinatu will be binned shortly. Thinking he could strong arm America. Bin him all the way to The Hague. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diadora Van Basten Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 Journalist infiltrates pro genocide protesters blocking aid getting into Gaza and settlors already building homes in Gaza. Meanwhile rather than stop them the IDF gave them sandwiches and watermelon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim_Duncan Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 19 hours ago, Diadora Van Basten said: Journalist infiltrates pro genocide protesters blocking aid getting into Gaza and settlors already building homes in Gaza. Meanwhile rather than stop them the IDF gave them sandwiches and watermelon. And yet you claim the IDF are nothing but cold-hearted monsters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 They probably didn't take the seeds out the water melon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diadora Van Basten Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 Two unarmed Palestinians civilians carrying a white flag were shot dead yesterday and their bodies bulldozed by the IDF as they tried to return to Northern Gaza. The ceasefire talks fell apart after Hamas insisted Palestinians must be allowed to return to Northern Gaza. Israel has told UNWRA they are not allowed to provide aid to Northern Gaza. The flour massacre was an attack by the IDF on Palestinian civilians trying to access aid in Northern Gaza. Israel has built a new road separating South Gaza from Northern Gaza. One million people are living in famine conditions in Northern Gaza. Al Shifa the largest hospital was attacked again in Northern Gaza. I will leave you to draw your own conclusions about what Israel plans to do with Northern Gaza. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Burgundy Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 4 hours ago, manaliveits105 said: They probably didn't take the seeds out the water melon Monsters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XB52 Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 On 27/03/2024 at 11:18, Diadora Van Basten said: Journalist infiltrates pro genocide protesters blocking aid getting into Gaza and settlors already building homes in Gaza. Meanwhile rather than stop them the IDF gave them sandwiches and watermelon. It's just another war crime to be ignored by the US and the zionists on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim_Duncan Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 5 hours ago, manaliveits105 said: They probably didn't take the seeds out the water melon First the moneylending, now this. Time everyone revised their views on old Adolf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 53 minutes ago, XB52 said: It's just another war crime to be ignored by the US and the zionists on here. Boney M fans ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diadora Van Basten Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 1 hour ago, XB52 said: It's just another war crime to be ignored by the US and the zionists on here. There’s a vacancy for a repugnant Zionist liar who has no shame and blames everything on Hamas now that Eylon Levy has been fired. I can think of a few potential candidates from this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 Some seem to be finding this funny ! It’s anything but ! Fair enough but don’t contradict yourself if others then make light of someone else’s demise, like a king or some other ridiculous character ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 (edited) Has Egypt opened its border with South Gaza yet? No they have strengthened it. What have the many rich Arab and Islamic counties in the region done for Gaza in the current conflict or indeed before it? Nothing because they are terrified that Iranian sponsored terrorism will spread to their countries as it has on the West Bank. Yemen, Lebanon and Syria. Edited March 28 by Francis Albert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 11 minutes ago, Francis Albert said: Has Egypt opened its border with South Gaza yet? No they have strengthened it. What have the many rich Arab and Islamic counties in the region done for Gaza in the current conflict or indeed before it? Nothing because they are terrified that Iranian sponsored terrorism will spread to their countries as it has on the West Bank. Yemen, Lebanon and Syria. No. Because they refuse to take any more Palestinians. Israel wants Egypt to take the Palestinians so settlers can take Gaza over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malinga the Swinga Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 3 hours ago, Mikey1874 said: No. Because they refuse to take any more Palestinians. Israel wants Egypt to take the Palestinians so settlers can take Gaza over. Very convenient excuse but what's stopping them opening border and letting women and children out. Also likely Egyptian government is scared shitless of Hamas having foothold in Egypt and threatening it's own power as they aren't exactly on friendly terms since Egypt cracked down on Muslim brotherhood and flooded its tunnels between Egypt and Palestine. In reality, no Arab countries, other than Iran, are doing anything concrete to help Palestinians. Why would they though, when those in West doing all the hand wringing for them. The Arab countries know full well who is behind Palestine and have zero intention of assisting Iran. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diadora Van Basten Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 At the select committee, Rishi Sunak described the 13,000 children killed by Israel as “concerning”. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim_Duncan Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 (edited) Queers for Palestine want the British lad to boycott Eurovision because Israel gets to take part. He's refused. Not sure why a singer with a chance to make it big should chuck it away because some people, who are so lacking in personal identity that they define themselves by where they poke their pokey bits and their support of a political cause, say so. Do QfP also call for Palestine to boycott itself given its laws? Edited March 29 by Jim_Duncan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim_Duncan Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 13 hours ago, Diadora Van Basten said: At the select committee, Rishi Sunak described the 13,000 children killed by Israel as “concerning”. Rishi Sunak couldn't care less about dead children. He's a dick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XB52 Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 On 28/03/2024 at 17:54, Francis Albert said: Has Egypt opened its border with South Gaza yet? No they have strengthened it. What have the many rich Arab and Islamic counties in the region done for Gaza in the current conflict or indeed before it? Nothing because they are terrified that Iranian sponsored terrorism will spread to their countries as it has on the West Bank. Yemen, Lebanon and Syria. Israel wants the Palestinians out of Gaza so they can move more zionists in. Why the hell should Egypt assist in genocide?? As for the other way, Israel controls all aid going into Gaza, thus starving an entire population to try and make them leave; just like the hundreds of thousands they have already forced into camps in the surrounding countries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diadora Van Basten Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 8 hours ago, XB52 said: Israel wants the Palestinians out of Gaza so they can move more zionists in. Why the hell should Egypt assist in genocide?? As for the other way, Israel controls all aid going into Gaza, thus starving an entire population to try and make them leave; just like the hundreds of thousands they have already forced into camps in the surrounding countries. Jordan has taken over a million Palestinians. I think if I lived beside the kind of armed settlers that Israel has been putting in the West Bank I would see being a refugee in Jordan as being an attractive option. Meanwhile despite the International Court of Justice ruling Israel is committing a plausible genocide and the UN calling it a genocide. The US continues to send billions of weapons to Israel. https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2024/03/29/us-weapons-israel-gaza-war/ The package includes 1800 2000lb bombs. No doubt these bombs will be dropped on civilians in the forthcoming invasion of Rafah. “The new arms packages include more than 1,800 MK84 2,000-pound bombs and 500 MK82 500-pound bombs, according to Pentagon and State Department officials familiar with the matter. The 2,000-pound bombs have been linked to previous mass-casualty events throughout Israel’s military campaign in Gaza.“ “The 2,000-pound bombs, capable of leveling city blocks and leaving craters in the earth 40 feet across and larger, are almost never used anymore by Western militaries in densely populated locations due to the risk of civilian casualties. Israel has used them extensively in Gaza, according to several reports, most notably in the bombing of Gaza’s Jabalya refugee camp Oct. 31. U.N. officials decried the strike, which killed more than 100 people, as a “disproportionate attack that could amount to war crimes.” Israel defended the bombing, saying it resulted in the death of a Hamas leader.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 10 hours ago, XB52 said: Israel wants the Palestinians out of Gaza so they can move more zionists in. Why the hell should Egypt assist in genocide?? As for the other way, Israel controls all aid going into Gaza, thus starving an entire population to try and make them leave; just like the hundreds of thousands they have already forced into camps in the surrounding countries. Or offer sanctuary and refugee status to their Muslims. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XB52 Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 1 minute ago, Seymour M Hersh said: Or offer sanctuary and refugee status to their Muslims. You mean support the zionists with their ethnic cleansing of Muslim, Christian, Jewish Palestinians. There are already millions of refugees living in camps throughout the middle east after being forced out of their land. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 1 minute ago, XB52 said: You mean support the zionists with their ethnic cleansing of Muslim, Christian, Jewish Palestinians. There are already millions of refugees living in camps throughout the middle east after being forced out of their land. Okay then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gundermann Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 I notice that Craig Murray, former Brit diplomat and Alba conspiracy loon, has joined George Galloway, who's known for his bitter opposition to Scottish self-govt. Quite a journey from independence-first with Salmond to Workers Party of GB/ Putin. Grifters will grift. https://bellacaledonia.org.uk/2024/03/28/workers-of-the-world-unite/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 The George Galloway who has missed every single discussion in Parliament about the war. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 On 29/03/2024 at 10:29, Diadora Van Basten said: At the select committee, Rishi Sunak described the 13,000 children killed by Israel as “concerning”. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diadora Van Basten Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 9 hours ago, Mikey1874 said: Israel broke International Law on 9 October when they declared a siege on Gaza. This is collective punishment and illegal under the Geneva Convention. Recently the US announced Israel had not broken international law as they would be unable to provide weapons if Israel had broken International law. This seems more to do with Joe Biden being a self declared Zionist rather than the reality of the situation. Under the Genocide convention when the International Court of Justice ruled that Israel was committing a plausible genocide, countries such as the UK who signed up to the convention should be acting to prevent Genocide however there are still countries including the UK providing arms to Israel. The countries providing arms are also the countries whose politicians are in the pocket of Israel having received monies from Israel through AIPAC. It would be impossible for Israel to defeat Hamas within International law and Israel used Al Aqsa Flood to manipulate their allies to give them a blank cheque to kill Palestinian civilians, flatten Gaza and possibly ethnically cleanse Gaza. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Francis Albert Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 13 hours ago, Diadora Van Basten said: Israel broke International Law on 9 October when they declared a siege on Gaza. This is collective punishment and illegal under the Geneva Convention. Recently the US announced Israel had not broken international law as they would be unable to provide weapons if Israel had broken International law. This seems more to do with Joe Biden being a self declared Zionist rather than the reality of the situation. Under the Genocide convention when the International Court of Justice ruled that Israel was committing a plausible genocide, countries such as the UK who signed up to the convention should be acting to prevent Genocide however there are still countries including the UK providing arms to Israel. The countries providing arms are also the countries whose politicians are in the pocket of Israel having received monies from Israel through AIPAC. It would be impossible for Israel to defeat Hamas within International law and Israel used Al Aqsa Flood to manipulate their allies to give them a blank cheque to kill Palestinian civilians, flatten Gaza and possibly ethnically cleanse Gaza. Was the initial attack by Hamas in accordance with international law?. And the continuing holding of innocent civilian hostages? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 6 minutes ago, Francis Albert said: Was the initial attack by Hamas in accordance with international law?. And the continuing holding of innocent civilian hostages? Not the only thing happened though. You can look it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malinga the Swinga Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 10 minutes ago, Francis Albert said: Was the initial attack by Hamas in accordance with international law?. And the continuing holding of innocent civilian hostages? He's already justified the attacks as 'not that barbaric' and 'fighting back against a rapist'. DVB is utterly shameless and an embarrassment to Scotland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 12 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: Not the only thing happened though. You can look it up. Sorry where did I say it was the only thing happening? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionDJambo Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 The polarisation of opinion on this tragic situation, on here, between people who are not personally affected, just shows how hopeless the situation is. It seems that sides have to taken and that it’s not possible for both sides to be guilty of murdering innocent people who have absolutely no control over the actions of the protagonists. We hear that civilian casualties are inevitable in any war. Is this really a war or just retribution on a grand scale in response to an inhuman atrocity by a terrorist organisation, not another country or region. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diadora Van Basten Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 50 minutes ago, Francis Albert said: Was the initial attack by Hamas in accordance with international law?. And the continuing holding of innocent civilian hostages? Taking hostages is a breech of International law. The UK shouldn’t provide weapons to Hamas either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diadora Van Basten Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 3 minutes ago, SectionDJambo said: The polarisation of opinion on this tragic situation, on here, between people who are not personally affected, just shows how hopeless the situation is. It seems that sides have to taken and that it’s not possible for both sides to be guilty of murdering innocent people who have absolutely no control over the actions of the protagonists. We hear that civilian casualties are inevitable in any war. Is this really a war or just retribution on a grand scale in response to an inhuman atrocity by a terrorist organisation, not another country or region. It’s not a war it’s just speeding up the ethnic cleansing that was already taking place prior to Al Aqsa flood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diadora Van Basten Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 46 minutes ago, Malinga the Swinga said: He's already justified the attacks as 'not that barbaric' and 'fighting back against a rapist'. DVB is utterly shameless and an embarrassment to Scotland I think you should watch this video it might help you see Palestinians children as human beings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranston Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 On 25/03/2024 at 22:26, hmfcbilly said: Anyone else note the irony of Russia voting for a cease fire in Gaza yet continue to attack and kill innocent Ukrainians? It almost feels like the Ukrainians have been forgotten about and the folk who once flew their flags in solidarity in the UK or changed their Facebook profile photo have swapped the yellow and blue for a Palestinian flag. For me, all wars result in the same thing....thousands and thousands of innocent people just like you and me, die as a result of whatever political/religious/financial people in power decide to fight over. No winners ultimately Best post of the whole thread. Since Russia threatened nuclear war, Ukraine has become the forgotten nation and people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malinga the Swinga Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 16 hours ago, Diadora Van Basten said: I think you should watch this video it might help you see Palestinians children as human beings. No, will give yet another of the one sided videos you seek out on an hourly basis a miss. I know children are humans already as I've got my own. I mean obviously you don't count Israeli children as human as you are all for them being taken hostage. Thought you would be allover Israeli demonstrations against Netanyahu. He's been toast since attacks happened and looks like public have had enough. Maybe Palestinians could watch and do similar against Hamas, being as they voted them in and would have a better chance of peace if they stopped cheering and protecting them and actually stood up for themselves. Dangerous tactic I know but alternative doesn't seem to be working well for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim_Duncan Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 11 minutes ago, Malinga the Swinga said: No, will give yet another of the one sided videos you seek out on an hourly basis a miss. I know children are humans already as I've got my own. I mean obviously you don't count Israeli children as human as you are all for them being taken hostage. Thought you would be allover Israeli demonstrations against Netanyahu. He's been toast since attacks happened and looks like public have had enough. Maybe Palestinians could watch and do similar against Hamas, being as they voted them in and would have a better chance of peace if they stopped cheering and protecting them and actually stood up for themselves. Dangerous tactic I know but alternative doesn't seem to be working well for them. I believe it was the Palestinians who, when polled in 2004, were 65% in favour of the 9/11 attacks on the US. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malinga the Swinga Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 56 minutes ago, Jim_Duncan said: I believe it was the Palestinians who, when polled in 2004, were 65% in favour of the 9/11 attacks on the US. All on a non barbaric way though, just to keep DVB onside. Wouldn't want anyone to believe Palestinians capable of being anything other than cuddly inclusive folk who just want to get on with their main business of killing Jews and wiping Israel from face of map. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 Israel has got the bad guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diadora Van Basten Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 56 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: Israel has got the bad guys I expect the headlines tomorrow will be “Brits die in Gaza” as our media are too afraid to blame Israel for killing them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diadora Van Basten Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 First they came for the Palestinian civilians and I did not speak out because I blame Hamas. Then they came for the journalists and I did not speak out because I blame Hamas. Then they came for the doctors and I did not speak out because I blame Hamas. Then they came for the British aid workers, I found it deeply concerning and tragic but am waiting to hear from the IDF so that I can blame Hamas. Signed any Conservative or Labour Member of Parliament at Westminster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Japan Jambo Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 On 23/03/2024 at 21:01, Jim_Duncan said: Found one for you, Thor. 🤣👏 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psychedelicropcircle Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 1 hour ago, Diadora Van Basten said: First they came for the Palestinian civilians and I did not speak out because I blame Hamas. Then they came for the journalists and I did not speak out because I blame Hamas. Then they came for the doctors and I did not speak out because I blame Hamas. Then they came for the British aid workers, I found it deeply concerning and tragic but am waiting to hear from the IDF so that I can blame Hamas. Signed any Conservative or Labour Member of Parliament at Westminster. This! a bunch of spineless ***** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gundermann Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 Israel proving that it occupies a moral highground way above Hamas or Iran... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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