Fozzyonthefence Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 55 minutes ago, H2 said: Great to see Sibbick bid from Fleetwood was rejected. Fleetwood fan?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Striker Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Can anyone explain the interest in Penrice, but no pre-contract signed (did we even offer one) ? Is it the player keeping his options open, or did we decide he's too much of a gamble ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HopeDiouf Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 4 minutes ago, Lone Striker said: Can anyone explain the interest in Penrice, but no pre-contract signed (did we even offer one) ? Is it the player keeping his options open, or did we decide he's too much of a gamble ? can sign a pre-contract anytime. so could still be working on it. Sounds like a few clubs interested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyCant Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 12 minutes ago, HopeDiouf said: can sign a pre-contract anytime. so could still be working on it. Sounds like a few clubs interested. I assume the same with Dhanda. Pre contract not done so no announcement. Maybe we’ve dropped the idea altogether Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HopeDiouf Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 1 minute ago, JimmyCant said: I assume the same with Dhanda. Pre contract not done so no announcement. Maybe we’ve dropped the idea altogether Most places reporting Dhanda signed a pre-contract unless I'm missing something? No announcement from Hearts, but no denial either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC_92 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 2 minutes ago, JimmyCant said: I assume the same with Dhanda. Pre contract not done so no announcement. Maybe we’ve dropped the idea altogether Just now, HopeDiouf said: Most places reporting Dhanda signed a pre-contract unless I'm missing something? No announcement from Hearts, but no denial either. When we signed Halkett on a pre-contract, we waited until we'd played our last game against Livingston to officially announce it. Might be doing the same here, in which case it'll be April. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HopeDiouf Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Just now, DC_92 said: When we signed Halkett on a pre-contract, we waited until we'd played our last game against Livingston to officially announce it. Might be doing the same here, in which case it'll be April. yeah thats where I'm at. Hearts just being courteous not announcing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo in Bathgate Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 3 minutes ago, HopeDiouf said: Most places reporting Dhanda signed a pre-contract unless I'm missing something? No announcement from Hearts, but no denial either. We don’t announce pre contracts or deny unlike Rangers et.al. This is out of respect to other clubs and the fact that they are still under contract and getting paid by that club. With all that comes respect. However, it doesn’t stop other sources leaking info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackOfTheNet Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 42 minutes ago, Fozzyonthefence said: Fleetwood fan?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackOfTheNet Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 (edited) 17 minutes ago, JimmyCant said: I assume the same with Dhanda. Pre contract not done so no announcement. Maybe we’ve dropped the idea altogether Based on reports is likely a done deal. We’re just not arseholes like Rangers who announce this sort of thing early. When we announced Halkett a few years ago we did so when Livingston’s season was all but done, as in their final position couldn’t be affected by the remaining games really. Edit: Either that or what DC_92 said. Edited February 2 by BackOfTheNet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Striker Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 29 minutes ago, HopeDiouf said: can sign a pre-contract anytime. so could still be working on it. Sounds like a few clubs interested. 15 minutes ago, JimmyCant said: I assume the same with Dhanda. Pre contract not done so no announcement. Maybe we’ve dropped the idea altogether 11 minutes ago, DC_92 said: When we signed Halkett on a pre-contract, we waited until we'd played our last game against Livingston to officially announce it. Might be doing the same here, in which case it'll be April. 7 minutes ago, Jambo in Bathgate said: We don’t announce pre contracts or deny unlike Rangers et.al. This is out of respect to other clubs and the fact that they are still under contract and getting paid by that club. With all that comes respect. However, it doesn’t stop other sources leaking info. CHeers guys. That makes sense now. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byyy The Light Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 2 hours ago, jamboinglasgow said: I saw today that the Premier league FFP rules have been in place since 2013, but its clear the fact teams are actually getting punished now have frightened a lot of teams. I was listening to a football podcast last weekend and they were discussing why the window is so slow, one journalist pointed out if the Premier league start spending less than could be issues for some leagues in Europe. He wasn't trying to blow smoke up the premier league, more pointing out that due to the amount of money the premier normally chucks around and less money in TV deals in other leagues (like France for example) that clubs in those leagues have developed a model of getting players built ready to move to the Premier league so they can benefit from the big fees. If that money decreases it puts these clubs in a worse position and increase the finical gulf between the Premier league and everyone else. I suspect we will see normal spending in the summer as clubs start a new financial year. I could even see clubs top loading their signings in Summer. Also think because of FFP you are seeing more signings in this window which is a loan with a option to make it permanent, as clubs look to sign a player now but want to keep the transfer fee to the next financial year. If it means that FFP is doing it's job then all good as far as I'm concerned. Splashing hundreds of millions on players and paying them £300k a week while the club is in debt is absolutely bonkers. Even the loan fees now are significant because of the massive salaries very average players are on. I saw the Wharton transfer yesterday and thought to myself, only £22 million for a prem transfer, not much. Never even heard of the guy and my first thought was that's not much for premier league. Crazy. The quicker the European Super league happens and they create an NFL of soccer the better. Leave us to all get on with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hansel Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 12 minutes ago, Jambo in Bathgate said: We don’t announce pre contracts or deny unlike Rangers et.al. This is out of respect to other clubs and the fact that they are still under contract and getting paid by that club. With all that comes respect. However, it doesn’t stop other sources leaking info. Wonder if it's more out of respect to the player rather the club. Can sometimes put the player in an awkward situation if he's seeing out his contract and his current team's fan's know about the pre-contract. A poor game and and you'll have folk questioning commitment and focus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAlim Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Would be class if we got to April and announced that we’d already done some summer business. Dhanda, Penrice, Phillips, Strain all tied up so we could focus on the attack. A man can dream Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midloth_Iain Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 37 minutes ago, Jambo in Bathgate said: We don’t announce pre contracts or deny unlike Rangers et.al. This is out of respect to other clubs and the fact that they are still under contract and getting paid by that club. With all that comes respect. However, it doesn’t stop other sources leaking info. It certainly doesnt stop Derek Adams chucking his toys out the pram 😎 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chimp Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 1 hour ago, Fozzyonthefence said: Fleetwood fan?! Only logical explanation really 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 23 minutes ago, Midloth_Iain said: It certainly doesnt stop Derek Adams chucking his toys out the pram 😎 Spot on, but as much as I would want to rub their noses in it we should show more class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armageddon Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 SevCo announcing Souttar showed their true true colours, they threw him under the bus with us and made his life hell for the next few weeks - they did not care though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnking123 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Maybe we should have got another striker. Since that is Boyce out for another two monthhs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 With the window now closed, I do think we can be really happy with the window. We have recruited (from early signs) well for the position we needed which is Right Back. We have brought in an AMC which I do think will make a big difference to our attacking side and was a role we were lacking. We have trimmed the squad, moving on fringe players which has meant we have a strong squad but also freed up space for a few youngsters to be now first team players. We have got new contracts given to Forrest, who has stepped up in recent months to prove a very useful player and Halkett, who provides experience but once he is up to full speed will be a big player. We have got Yan Dhanda on a pre-contract (and from sounds of it are close to one for Penrice) so we are planning long term which is going to make things easier in the summer. Most importantly we have not lost Shankland. I do think that the talk of moves and contracts for him will die down a bit which will help him and people at the club (though step up again towards summer.) Of course we could maybe have got another striker but it is not vital and I do think the improvement of Vargas will compensate that. But it has been good, it may have been a dull month for Hearts, but rather have dull and successful than signing tons of players hoping some work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC_92 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 19 minutes ago, johnking123 said: Maybe we should have got another striker. Since that is Boyce out for another two monthhs. Where does that come from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Elliott Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 2 hours ago, HopeDiouf said: hes injured Why would him not being available for selection till March at the earliest be an issue? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 12 minutes ago, DC_92 said: Where does that come from? Naismith pre match conference https://www.heartsfc.co.uk/blogs/news/naismith-on-january-and-dundee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky jamboa Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 3 hours ago, H2 said: Great to see Sibbick bid from Fleetwood was rejected. Sort of forgot about Sibbick. He's not been involved for a while now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC_92 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Just now, Mikey1874 said: Naismith pre match conference https://www.heartsfc.co.uk/blogs/news/naismith-on-january-and-dundee I already thought we needed a new striker, but this solidifies it. It could end up being a massive mistake, which is why I'm not as positive about the window as others seem to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 35 minutes ago, johnking123 said: Maybe we should have got another striker. Since that is Boyce out for another two monthhs. Fraser will play behind Shanks. He'll be similar to Darren Jackson. He'll be a great signing for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky jamboa Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 A decent transfer window for us. Lembikisa adding a bit needed quality at right back. Dhanda on a pre contract. Fraser in the attacking midfield slot. I don't know much about him but a position we need to strengthen. Getting rid of Halliday and also keeping Shanks. Shocking the lengths the media have went to to try and engineer a move for Shanks to the huns, when they seemingly had no interest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 5 minutes ago, DC_92 said: I already thought we needed a new striker, but this solidifies it. It could end up being a massive mistake, which is why I'm not as positive about the window as others seem to be. Diego Costa looking for a club 😮 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 5 minutes ago, DC_92 said: I already thought we needed a new striker, but this solidifies it. It could end up being a massive mistake, which is why I'm not as positive about the window as others seem to be. I think we have enough but not good news on Boyce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackOfTheNet Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 42 minutes ago, johnking123 said: Maybe we should have got another striker. Since that is Boyce out for another two monthhs. Nah, Shankland will play every game unless injured or suspended. And if that happens maybe it gives Tagawa a chance, although I imagine Vargas might be up there anyway. We have more than enough to win games with the squad we have, even if Boyce can’t be considered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 10 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: Naismith pre match conference https://www.heartsfc.co.uk/blogs/news/naismith-on-january-and-dundee That's a shame about Boyce as he came back quite strong after his long lay off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTT Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 42 minutes ago, johnking123 said: Maybe we should have got another striker. Since that is Boyce out for another two monthhs. There may well have been a decent number of strikers released that we could sign as a free agent. So the option is still there if we're interested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyRightPeg Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Sadly think we’re starting to see the end of Boycey. Would love to be proven wrong but another surgery at his age is make or break. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphonseCapone Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 6 hours ago, stirlo said: It's interesting how quiet this transfer window was generally in terms of big transfers. It seems that a lot of teams down south are still paying the credit card bill for previous transfers - and will be for quite a while by the sound of things. Fingers crossed it's the start of that house of cards coming down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaps Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Awful decision to extend Boyce contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Just now, Chaps said: Awful decision to extend Boyce contract. Hindsight is wonderful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 (edited) 1 hour ago, BigAlim said: Would be class if we got to April and announced that we’d already done some summer business. Dhanda, Penrice, Phillips, Strain all tied up so we could focus on the attack. A man can dream Tbf, we don't need to anounce them to focus on the attack, it can all be done privately. Edited February 2 by Bazzas right boot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 3 minutes ago, Chaps said: Awful decision to extend Boyce contract. it was Boyce’s option and this his decision. If there was a mistake it was he signed on for longer but I think we all agreed it was a smart move at the time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC_92 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 14 minutes ago, BackOfTheNet said: Nah, Shankland will play every game unless injured or suspended. And if that happens maybe it gives Tagawa a chance, although I imagine Vargas might be up there anyway. We have more than enough to win games with the squad we have, even if Boyce can’t be considered. It's the possibility of Shankland getting injured that's the problem. Boyce wouldn't score as many but would do the back-to-goal stuff, link play, win fouls, etc. Tagawa hasn't shown any of that so far and I don't really see Vargas doing it either. I also think Shankland is better with a partner in any case. If Shankland stays fit then it's probably fine. If he doesn't then it's a real worry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 15 minutes ago, RustyRightPeg said: Sadly think we’re starting to see the end of Boycey. Would love to be proven wrong but another surgery at his age is make or break. Sadly I agree. I can see him seeing out out his contract then the end of next season retiring. But I can see him staying at Hearts as a coach, seems to be liked and works well with the younger players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 1 minute ago, jamboinglasgow said: Sadly I agree. I can see him seeing out out his contract then the end of next season retiring. But I can see him staying at Hearts as a coach, seems to be liked and works well with the younger players. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamhammer Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 27 minutes ago, OTT said: There may well have been a decent number of strikers released that we could sign as a free agent. So the option is still there if we're interested. I think this may be the case I kind of expected Naismith to be quite a gung ho manager but he’s been cautious, careful and calm. I’d be quite surprised if we don’t have something planned in case Shanks gets injured/suspended Surely not counting on Tagawa? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HopeDiouf Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 (edited) 13 minutes ago, DC_92 said: It's the possibility of Shankland getting injured that's the problem. Boyce wouldn't score as many but would do the back-to-goal stuff, link play, win fouls, etc. Tagawa hasn't shown any of that so far and I don't really see Vargas doing it either. I also think Shankland is better with a partner in any case. If Shankland stays fit then it's probably fine. If he doesn't then it's a real worry. Thats where I'm at as well. I was worried enough that we were a shanks injury away from having to rely on Boyce. We're now a shanks injury away from having to rely on Tagawa. Club must've known about Boyce injury before today - should really have been bringing in another striker IMO. Edited February 2 by HopeDiouf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Chat Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Maybe Derek Adams was right and we are skint 😃 It's the only logical reason for not bringing in a striker on loan at least, considering the Boyce news (which wont have been a surprise to the club). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamdub Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 1 hour ago, jamboinglasgow said: With the window now closed, I do think we can be really happy with the window. We have recruited (from early signs) well for the position we needed which is Right Back. We have brought in an AMC which I do think will make a big difference to our attacking side and was a role we were lacking. We have trimmed the squad, moving on fringe players which has meant we have a strong squad but also freed up space for a few youngsters to be now first team players. We have got new contracts given to Forrest, who has stepped up in recent months to prove a very useful player and Halkett, who provides experience but once he is up to full speed will be a big player. We have got Yan Dhanda on a pre-contract (and from sounds of it are close to one for Penrice) so we are planning long term which is going to make things easier in the summer. Most importantly we have not lost Shankland. I do think that the talk of moves and contracts for him will die down a bit which will help him and people at the club (though step up again towards summer.) Of course we could maybe have got another striker but it is not vital and I do think the improvement of Vargas will compensate that. But it has been good, it may have been a dull month for Hearts, but rather have dull and successful than signing tons of players hoping some work. I am happy with all that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hansel Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Maybe there's an out of contract striker we have an eye on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 1 minute ago, Hansel said: Maybe there's an out of contract striker we have an eye on? I think that's possibility just in case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hansel Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 1 minute ago, Le Chat said: Maybe Derek Adams was right and we are skint 😃 It's the only logical reason for not bringing in a striker on loan at least, considering the Boyce news (which wont have been a surprise to the club). Maybe waiting on shankland deciding on the bumper contract 1st? If he refuses then we should have some spare change for wages for an out of contract striker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PapaShango Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 2 hours ago, BackOfTheNet said: Based on reports is likely a done deal. We’re just not arseholes like Rangers who announce this sort of thing early. When we announced Halkett a few years ago we did so when Livingston’s season was all but done, as in their final position couldn’t be affected by the remaining games really. Edit: Either that or what DC_92 said. When we announced Forrest we waited until we couldn't play Livi again before announcing it. The Orcs done it to unsettle him and hope we would sell in the Jan window. Absolutely horrid club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuart500 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 I wonder what the plan is with Finlay Pollock. He was being quoted as being near to return back in November. He's been missing for a long time but seems to have bulked up quite a bit. I always thought of him as a winger but maybe he could provide a bit of pace and power up front? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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