PapaShango Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Just now, stuart500 said: I wonder what the plan is with Finlay Pollock. He was being quoted as being near to return back in November. He's been missing for a long time but seems to have bulked up quite a bit. I always thought of him as a winger but maybe he could provide a bit of pace and power up front? He's in and around the squad and made the bench the last couple of games. Tait has probably got himself to the front of the que in midfield at the moment but I really rate Pollock has looked decent every time I've seen him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommyC Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 2 minutes ago, PapaShango said: He's in and around the squad and made the bench the last couple of games. Tait has probably got himself to the front of the que in midfield at the moment but I really rate Pollock has looked decent every time I've seen him. Does Pollock still play Centre Midfield? I think the last time I saw him play, he was taking up a lot of forward and wide positions, ala Phil Foden. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackOfTheNet Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 30 minutes ago, DC_92 said: It's the possibility of Shankland getting injured that's the problem. Boyce wouldn't score as many but would do the back-to-goal stuff, link play, win fouls, etc. Tagawa hasn't shown any of that so far and I don't really see Vargas doing it either. I also think Shankland is better with a partner in any case. If Shankland stays fit then it's probably fine. If he doesn't then it's a real worry. Then we need to adapt how we play to benefit speedy forward players who can run on behind by having quicker counter attacks and players who can pick out the runs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettigrewsstylist Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 1 hour ago, DC_92 said: I already thought we needed a new striker, but this solidifies it. It could end up being a massive mistake, which is why I'm not as positive about the window as others seem to be. We have not been surprised by this. Free agent time, if board will allow wages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 7 minutes ago, stuart500 said: I wonder what the plan is with Finlay Pollock. He was being quoted as being near to return back in November. He's been missing for a long time but seems to have bulked up quite a bit. I always thought of him as a winger but maybe he could provide a bit of pace and power up front? Think the issue for him has been getting practice games to get up to speed as he was out for so long. I think he will play more as the season goes on. Would describe him as an attacking player, can play on the left or in the middle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HopeDiouf Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 2 minutes ago, BackOfTheNet said: Then we need to adapt how we play to benefit speedy forward players who can run on behind by having quicker counter attacks and players who can pick out the runs. and has the heart of a pea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 1 minute ago, pettigrewsstylist said: We have not been surprised by this. Free agent time, if board will allow wages. If we were going to bring in a striker for cover we’d have signed Van Veen I think. They’d have known about Boyce yesterday so looks like we are going with what we have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettigrewsstylist Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Just now, GinRummy said: If we were going to bring in a striker for cover we’d have signed Van Veen I think. They’d have known about Boyce yesterday so looks like we are going with what we have. Maybe we didnt like the terms we were competing with for VV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Just now, pettigrewsstylist said: Maybe we didnt like the terms we were competing with for VV. Aye you never know with these things but on the face of it looked the ideal chance to get cover for Shanks. We won’t bring in a striker now imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboPete Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 On 12/01/2024 at 16:51, Gordon_1874 said: Ross County just signed a midfielder on loan, could he be a replacement for Yan Dhanda ? Lucas Joao formerly with Reading is available on a free. 71 goals in 241 appearances in the championship. Would be a great signing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 I'm not in the slightest bit concerned. Kickback seemingly always strains itself to find a negative Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HopeDiouf Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Just now, Lord Beni of Gorgie said: I'm not in the slightest bit concerned. Kickback seemingly always strains itself to find a negative so if shanks gets injured, you think we're fine with Vargas and Tagawa? Agree to disagree on that. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmo Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 2 hours ago, Hansel said: Wonder if it's more out of respect to the player rather the club. Can sometimes put the player in an awkward situation if he's seeing out his contract and his current team's fan's know about the pre-contract. A poor game and and you'll have folk questioning commitment and focus. Exactly this people who know more than me will be sure that Penrose has already signed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmorewasgash Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 You just know that Shanks will now get crocked versus Scumdee and us not going for another striker will bite us. Why did we give Boyce a new deal he could hardly run in last run out before latest injury. Given new deals to constantly injured players since Levein days does my head in. Before season is ended i'll play injured bingo that Kingsley will be next injured again, then Beni and Halkett break down again. Haring is another last few seasons that has been injury prone and I like big Pete. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 (edited) 19 minutes ago, JamboPete said: Lucas Joao formerly with Reading is available on a free. 71 goals in 241 appearances in the championship. Would be a great signing. I've read worse suggestions than that! 6ft 4in tall, decent CV. Someone else suggested Dwight Gale. If we could afford it and decided to go down that route, either would seem suitable short term. Edited February 2 by JamboAl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlimOzturk Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 1 minute ago, colinmorewasgash said: You just know that Shanks will now get crocked versus Scumdee and us not going for another striker will bite us. Why did we give Boyce a new deal he could hardly run in last run out before latest injury. Given new deals to constantly injured players since Levein days does my head in. Before season is ended i'll play injured bingo that Kingsley will be next injured again, then Beni and Halkett break down again. Haring is another last few seasons that has been injury prone and I like big Pete. Boyce had a clause in his deal that he could trigger if he wanted an extra year. What are Hearts supposed to do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Australis Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 3 minutes ago, colinmorewasgash said: You just know that Shanks will now get crocked versus Scumdee and us not going for another striker will bite us. Why did we give Boyce a new deal he could hardly run in last run out before latest injury. Given new deals to constantly injured players since Levein days does my head in. Before season is ended i'll play injured bingo that Kingsley will be next injured again, then Beni and Halkett break down again. Haring is another last few seasons that has been injury prone and I like big Pete. Hopefully not, but it's a possibility and could happen in any game. Hard to see where our goals would come from if he was out of the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyRightPeg Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 12 minutes ago, colinmorewasgash said: You just know that Shanks will now get crocked versus Scumdee and us not going for another striker will bite us. Why did we give Boyce a new deal he could hardly run in last run out before latest injury. Given new deals to constantly injured players since Levein days does my head in. Before season is ended i'll play injured bingo that Kingsley will be next injured again, then Beni and Halkett break down again. Haring is another last few seasons that has been injury prone and I like big Pete. You don’t really understand how contracts work do you? Boyce himself had the option to extend it, not the club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 4 hours ago, Fozzyonthefence said: Fleetwood fan?! Get back on your fence! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo-Jambo Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 1 hour ago, Le Chat said: Maybe Derek Adams was right and we are skint 😃 It's the only logical reason for not bringing in a striker on loan at least, considering the Boyce news (which wont have been a surprise to the club). Exactly. Shankland has been lucky with injuries but if he picks one up we are ******.. No natural strikers left and we must have known Boyce was going to be out for a while. Should have brought a loan one in imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watt-Zeefuik Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 6 hours ago, jtkb said: My nephew won a free round of golf as bet with his stupid Hun uncle The Rangers never had close to the cash we would have demanded changed days and good to see. Hopefully shanks see sense and signs contact with a decent buy out clause for us that way if he can get a huge wage else where we get compensated properly rather than peanuts. Smart fella. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watt-Zeefuik Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 4 hours ago, Fozzyonthefence said: Fleetwood fan?! Come on, you don't have to think he's a good player to wish him better than to end up at that cesspool of washed up ex-Hibs wanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBJambo Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 1 hour ago, colinmorewasgash said: You just know that Shanks will now get crocked versus Scumdee and us not going for another striker will bite us. Why did we give Boyce a new deal he could hardly run in last run out before latest injury. Given new deals to constantly injured players since Levein days does my head in. Before season is ended i'll play injured bingo that Kingsley will be next injured again, then Beni and Halkett break down again. Haring is another last few seasons that has been injury prone and I like big Pete. Nice and positive 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deviskan Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 2 hours ago, The Real Maroonblood said: That's a shame about Boyce as he came back quite strong after his long lay off. Did he? How? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deviskan Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 52 minutes ago, RustyRightPeg said: You don’t really understand how contracts work do you? Boyce himself had the option to extend it, not the club. Did Boyce write his own contract? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoGwash Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 5 minutes ago, Deviskan said: Did Boyce write his own contract? No. We also didn't give Boycie a new deal as was stated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deviskan Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 5 minutes ago, GBJambo said: Nice and positive 👍 With Fraser now in the squad, I’ll judge Tagawa if he gets a run of games with someone actually capable of providing balls for him to run onto. If Shankland does get injured, then that will be the time to judge Tagawa properly, as the guy hasn’t had a proper opportunity yet (a couple of starts and sub run-outs, with nobody playing to his strengths by giving him balls to run onto). A large percentage of this forum was also piling onto Vargas as not good enough as recently as a couple of months ago…now he’s the bees knees after scoring three goals after, after starting to find his feet (note, I always wanted him to start as it was clear he has something about him…so does Oda). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deviskan Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 (edited) 4 minutes ago, HoGwash said: No. We also didn't give Boycie a new deal as was stated. So he just got a new deal out of the blue did he? Who put the clause into his contract (or agreed to it being there), allowing him to activate an extension? As I’d say whoever did that, made a bit of a mistake (note, I have no idea who it was…Levein, Neilson, Savage etc). Just checked, it appears we can thank Neilson for that particular clause being included. Edited February 2 by Deviskan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HopeDiouf Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 1 minute ago, Deviskan said: So he just got a new deal out of the blue did he? Who put the clause into his contract (or agreed to it being there), allowing him to activate an extension? As I’d say whoever did that, made a bit of a mistake (note, I have no idea who it was…Levein, Neilson, Savage etc). we'll have given him that option when he signed. He'll have been wanting a year more than we wanted to give him, and that'll have been the compromise. play x games in year 3, and you get a 4th year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 (edited) Naismith in his press conference confirmed we have a pre-contract agreement with Dhanda, spoke to Ross County but they did not want to sell in January. "That situation is something I'm not overly comfortable talking about but there is an agreement there. We had an honest conversation with the other club out of respect to tell them what was happening and we asked if there was a possibility (of buying him in January) but he wasn't for sale so that was the end of it, really." https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-transfer-news/transfer-deadline-aftermath-live-rangers-32027154 Edited February 2 by jamboinglasgow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTT Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 13 minutes ago, Deviskan said: Did he? How? yeah Boyce hasn't been very good since he came back in terms of product in front of goal, but I did think he looked leaner, faster and more aggressive elsewhere, which was good. Trouble is, he's a striker not an attacking midfielder. He should be used as cover for Shankland, not to push Grant/Lowry* out of the starting 11 *now Fraser! I don't think it would be wise to plan next season around Boyce being fit. He's picking up injuries fairly frequently now which is a bloody shame Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoGwash Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 5 minutes ago, Deviskan said: So he just got a new deal out of the blue did he? Who put the clause into his contract (or agreed to it being there), allowing him to activate an extension? As I’d say whoever did that, made a bit of a mistake (note, I have no idea who it was…Levein, Neilson, Savage etc). Just checked, it appears we can thank Neilson for that particular clause being included. It wasn't a new deal, it was part of his old deal. That was the point being made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carter Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 1 hour ago, PapaShango said: He's in and around the squad and made the bench the last couple of games. Tait has probably got himself to the front of the que in midfield at the moment but I really rate Pollock has looked decent every time I've seen him. Look quite different types. Tait looks like a type who'll look to dictate play and tempo. In what I've seen of Pollock he looks very comfortable travelling with the ball. I'd imagine the plan in fullness of time is for both to become regulars. If good enough obviously. I suspect both will turn out to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HopeDiouf Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 8 minutes ago, Deviskan said: With Fraser now in the squad, I’ll judge Tagawa if he gets a run of games with someone actually capable of providing balls for him to run onto. Ginelly and Vargas must be incredible players, given they managed to make the impossible look relatively simple........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deviskan Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 2 minutes ago, OTT said: yeah Boyce hasn't been very good since he came back in terms of product in front of goal, but I did think he looked leaner, faster and more aggressive elsewhere, which was good. Trouble is, he's a striker not an attacking midfielder. He should be used as cover for Shankland, not to push Grant/Lowry* out of the starting 11 *now Fraser! I don't think it would be wise to plan next season around Boyce being fit. He's picking up injuries fairly frequently now which is a bloody shame Boyce is nowhere near good enough in my opinion…and hasn’t been for a while now (even before hi picked up the previous injury when he was out for some time). Hindsight is a great thing, but he should never had had that clause in his contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deviskan Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 (edited) 13 minutes ago, HopeDiouf said: Ginelly and Vargas must be incredible players, given they managed to make the impossible look relatively simple........ I must have imagined everyone saying Vargas was pish for weeks…and nowhere near good enough. Has Tagawa played as much as Vargas…or Ginelly? Does Tagawa speak English…or would you say it might take him a bit more time to settle (like Vargas) than it would take someone from the U.K.? Edited February 2 by Deviskan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramrod Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Could really have done with Van Veen on loan till the end of the season, would have guaranteed 3 place . Boyce out for atleast another 2 months and Tagawa couldn't hit a coos erse with a banjo. Surprised we didn't bring him In tbh, seemed a no brainer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indianajones Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 15 minutes ago, jamboinglasgow said: Naismith in his press conference confirmed we have a pre-contract agreement with Dhanda, spoke to Ross County but they did not want to sell in January. "That situation is something I'm not overly comfortable talking about but there is an agreement there. We had an honest conversation with the other club out of respect to tell them what was happening and we asked if there was a possibility (of buying him in January) but he wasn't for sale so that was the end of it, really." https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-transfer-news/transfer-deadline-aftermath-live-rangers-32027154 So Derek Adams just blatantly lying. He needs to get it tight next time he's at Tynie. Can we play Hamill for a cameo? I hope County disappear from footballing relevance very shortly. Would rather have Livi and their plastic carpet in the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambo_Jambo Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 2 hours ago, BackOfTheNet said: Then we need to adapt how we play to benefit speedy forward players who can run on behind by having quicker counter attacks and players who can pick out the runs. That's kind of how I feel a out it. If Shankland goes out then we need to completely change how we set up our attack. Tagawa, Oda, Vargas will probably all actually prefer a quick breaking team where as, when you have a guy like Shankland, you're better with the patient build up we do because it's about moving the opposition around enough to create space for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Elliott Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 1 hour ago, Lord Beni of Gorgie said: I'm not in the slightest bit concerned. Kickback seemingly always strains itself to find a negative Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deviskan Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 2 minutes ago, Cambo_Jambo said: That's kind of how I feel a out it. If Shankland goes out then we need to completely change how we set up our attack. Tagawa, Oda, Vargas will probably all actually prefer a quick breaking team where as, when you have a guy like Shankland, you're better with the patient build up we do because it's about moving the opposition around enough to create space for him. I’d actually like to see those three get a run of games at some point (hopefully when we’ve nailed third) Fraser playing behind them could be fairly exciting! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HopeDiouf Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 3 minutes ago, Deviskan said: I must have imagined everyone saying Vargas was pish for weeks…and nowhere near good enough. Has Tagawa played as much as Vargas…or Ginelly? Does Tagawa speak English…or would you say it might take him a bit more time to settle (like Vargas) than it would take someone from the U.K.? Nope. Why do you reckon manager has chosen to give him such limited game time? He's seemed quite happy to play Vargas. For me, it's cause Tagawa has been pish when he's had chances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deviskan Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 4 minutes ago, HopeDiouf said: Nope. Why do you reckon manager has chosen to give him such limited game time? He's seemed quite happy to play Vargas. For me, it's cause Tagawa has been pish when he's had chances. it’s fairly amazing that me saying I’ll judge Tagawa once he has had a run of games, with Fraser playing behind him…has got your frilly knickers so twisted?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HopeDiouf Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Just now, Deviskan said: it’s fairly amazing that me saying I’ll judge Tagawa once he has had a run of games, with Fraser playing behind him…has got your frilly knickers so twisted?! ditto boyce having a clause in his contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deviskan Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 1 minute ago, HopeDiouf said: ditto boyce having a clause in his contract. You're now comparing Boyce…who has been here for years, and has been completely pish for quite some time now….with Tagawa? Christ, I’ll leave it there…enjoy licking the nearest window later! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HopeDiouf Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Just now, Deviskan said: You're now comparing Boyce…who has been here for years, and has been completely pish for quite some time now….with Tagawa? Christ, I’ll leave it there…enjoy licking the nearest window later! nah, just pointing out you've got your knickers in a twist over Boyce triggering a contract extension. Boyce was done a while ago, IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deviskan Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Just now, HopeDiouf said: nah, just pointing out you've got your knickers in a twist over Boyce triggering a contract extension. Boyce was done a while ago, IMO. I’ve got my knickers in a twist, by pointing out it’s essentially the clubs fault that the clause was there in the first place? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Famous 1874 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Hope Boycie’s not on the wage he was when he signed for us. Crocked almost all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HopeDiouf Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Just now, Deviskan said: I’ve got my knickers in a twist, by pointing out it’s essentially the clubs fault that the clause was there in the first place? nah, tbf, you seem completely fine about it. you're clearly not bothered at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deviskan Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 39 minutes ago, Deviskan said: So he just got a new deal out of the blue did he? Who put the clause into his contract (or agreed to it being there), allowing him to activate an extension? As I’d say whoever did that, made a bit of a mistake (note, I have no idea who it was…Levein, Neilson, Savage etc). Just checked, it appears we can thank Neilson for that particular clause being included. Pure raging stuff Hopediouf…! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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