Thomaso Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 53 minutes ago, BackOfTheNet said: Speaks well Sounds like a sensible guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonbe110 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 39 minutes ago, Mdoug79 said: Fraser’s interview very much sounds like he plans to stay longer than the summer Sounded like a loan with an option to buy or make permanent to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feej Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 12 minutes ago, jambo mark said: Pass on that. the last one we tried still haunts me He was that good I can't even remember his name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 3 minutes ago, PhoenixHearts said: He's contracted to the club for next season and he's a key part of Naismiths first team. Why wouldn't he be? I think he’ll be here. The only wee niggle I have is when he was signed there was strong speculation he was on a top wage. I like him this season but I guess it comes down to could we do better for the money spent, could we get cash in for him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambo mark Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 2 minutes ago, feej said: He was that good I can't even remember his name. Ben something Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hansel Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Just now, jambo mark said: Ben something Woodburn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feej Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 3 minutes ago, Hansel said: Woodburn All hype and not much else Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opinionated Jambo Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 44 minutes ago, Lossiemouth Jambo said: Van Veen ? As @Bongo 1874 has also stated, @Ian Black 8 has got it all spot on 100%. I think Van Veen would be someone ideal for us, as I think we need more of a target man type of striker - similar to Simms when we had him here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shooter McGavin Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Got a feeling Fraser will be a cracking signing, and we’ll look back at how underwhelming it seemed at the time due to the circumstances! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 6 minutes ago, jambo mark said: Ben something 5 minutes ago, Hansel said: Woodburn Played 8 minutes in last 8 games for Preston North End. Not started once all season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackOfTheNet Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 One thing I find odd about this window is not the clamour for signings despite us being in great form, not the drama around contracts, but the eagerness of so many to get rid of players. Many on here know I’ve not exactly been Halliday’s biggest fan, but I’ve never once been keen to punt him. As a squad needs depth, and experienced players content not to be starting every week can have value. But the way some talk about current Hearts players - players who have shown no disrespect to club or fans mind you - as if they were a stain on the club that needs removed is genuinely baffling to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeylandJambo Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 20 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: Played 8 minutes in last 8 games for Preston North End. Not started once all season. A waste of a Jersey one of my PNE supporting mates said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David McCaig Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 22 minutes ago, Shooter McGavin said: Got a feeling Fraser will be a cracking signing, and we’ll look back at how underwhelming it seemed at the time due to the circumstances! I'm not underwhelmed, I'm delighted he's signed, a proper midfielder with a good eye for goal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyRightPeg Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 2 minutes ago, David McCaig said: I'm not underwhelmed, I'm delighted he's signed, a proper midfielder with a good eye for goal. Yep. Anyone who thinks this is underwhelming hasn’t watched the lad play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syd Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 45 minutes ago, AlphonseCapone said: This summer hasn't happened yet? On Fraser, spoke really well in his interview. Think this could end up being one of those signings that goes under the radar in terms of excitement but ends up being very good. I was questioning if he was a target for this summers recruitment or last summers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphonseCapone Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Just now, Syd said: I was questioning if he was a target for this summers recruitment or last summers I'm sure it was said he was a previous target so last summer, but if he does well then I'd imagine we'll move to keep him, so this summer. So in conclusion, all summers 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shooter McGavin Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 5 minutes ago, RustyRightPeg said: Yep. Anyone who thinks this is underwhelming hasn’t watched the lad play. I’m talking more just about the timing, rather than him as a player, his signing has been a bit lost amongst the hysteria around Shankland 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Elliott Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 50 minutes ago, PhoenixHearts said: He's contracted to the club for next season and he's a key part of Naismiths first team. Why wouldn't he be? Because he’s being replaced by much better players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 32 minutes ago, BackOfTheNet said: One thing I find odd about this window is not the clamour for signings despite us being in great form, not the drama around contracts, but the eagerness of so many to get rid of players. Many on here know I’ve not exactly been Halliday’s biggest fan, but I’ve never once been keen to punt him. As a squad needs depth, and experienced players content not to be starting every week can have value. But the way some talk about current Hearts players - players who have shown no disrespect to club or fans mind you - as if they were a stain on the club that needs removed is genuinely baffling to me. It's the modern way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyRightPeg Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 15 minutes ago, Shooter McGavin said: I’m talking more just about the timing, rather than him as a player, his signing has been a bit lost amongst the hysteria around Shankland 😂 Aw 100%. Can’t disagree there. Not a bad thing for him though. Can go under the radar and do his business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 4 minutes ago, RustyRightPeg said: Aw 100%. Can’t disagree there. Not a bad thing for him though. Can go under the radar and do his business. Can he take penalties? 🥸 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 On paper that's a cracking short term signing. But it doesn't always work out. All signing have a bit of uncertainty. Shankland was a bit of a gamble and he's ended up being about our best signing in quite a few years. David Vanacek went the other way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Pleased we have finally got this over the line, would love to know why Charlton held it up for over a week. I dont think we will sign anyone else this window, we have got two signings we wanted and unless Ross County suddenly change their position then I cant see Dhanda coming in January. I do think we will see at least 1 player leave tomorrow. I think anyone expecting excitement tomorrow will be left disappointed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamborich Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 1 hour ago, Bongo 1874 said: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.footballscotland.co.uk/spfl/scottish-premiership/kevin-van-veen-puts-rangers-28347034.amp&ved=2ahUKEwjDof2OsoiEAxWf_7sIHf5HD4kQFnoECCUQAQ&usg=AOvVaw2Fb0Ga9QSypGwvcSVNFKWz I'm not ITK. Great response bye the way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ford donald Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 1 hour ago, soonbe110 said: Sounded like a loan with an option to buy or make permanent to me. Wants back to Scotland,good experienced player north and south,expecting good things from him.Our midfield is week,can only improve us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackOfTheNet Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 27 minutes ago, davemclaren said: It's the modern way. I know. It’s a shame though. Players doesn’t get picked or hasn’t played as well as others when they have played is suddenly worthy of disdain. (Unless they’re a lad or something) Such a weird way to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newton51 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 15 minutes ago, jamboinglasgow said: Pleased we have finally got this over the line, would love to know why Charlton held it up for over a week. I dont think we will sign anyone else this window, we have got two signings we wanted and unless Ross County suddenly change their position then I cant see Dhanda coming in January. I do think we will see at least 1 player leave tomorrow. I think anyone expecting excitement tomorrow will be left disappointed. English journalists Scott Fraser move is progressing. Hearts have improved financial package, which had caused the logjam on his switch. #cafc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rods Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Van Veen will probably end up at Hibs. I noticed they have just released Doidge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 (edited) With the emergence of Tait and Denholm, the addition of Fraser and Dhanda the midfield and out attacking options now look very strong. I also look forward to Finlay Pollock getting in amongst it as I think if he can stay fit he’s a top top player. if Beni doesn’t sign Phillips would be a good addition, as would penrice if we could get him though I suspect that would mean we’d be looking to sell Cochrane in the Summer. Van Veen would be the cherry on the cake. The squad is however very big againa massive fan of Pete but feels like time is up, wish that guy nothing but the best. Tagawa it feels like it just isn’t going to work out. And Sibbick also feels like he won’t get too much game time. Edited January 31 by kingantti1874 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cazzyy Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 8 minutes ago, jamborich said: Great response bye the way Is it? That article was written last year. Hardly a scoop from the poster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 1 minute ago, Rods said: Van Veen will probably end up at Hibs. I noticed they have just released Doidge more forwards? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rods Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 1 minute ago, kingantti1874 said: more forwards? They have the foley gazillions so will have 3 players for every position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gundermann Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 3 minutes ago, Rods said: Van Veen will probably end up at Hibs. I noticed they have just released Doidge Does he not have to go there via Bournemouth first? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newton51 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 4 minutes ago, Rods said: Van Veen will probably end up at Hibs. I noticed they have just released Doidge Think he will end up at ibrox after they fail to get shankland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Surprised they sold doidge. One of the few at the methadome who had some spine . ahoukd have sold vente. Absolute gash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 11 minutes ago, Newton51 said: English journalists Scott Fraser move is progressing. Hearts have improved financial package, which had caused the logjam on his switch. #cafc Not buying that considering he has been up here for over a week. If the clubs hadn't agreed the price then its unlikely they let him go up (unless Charlton tried to be sneaky and change terms last second.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dumpson Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 2 hours ago, BackOfTheNet said: Speaks well As others have said this doesn’t sound like he only intends to be here for a few months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hansel Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 49 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: Played 8 minutes in last 8 games for Preston North End. Not started once all season. Anticlimactic career so far. Writing was on the wall when he was subbed before half time away to Livingston. Did he not score against us in a preseason friendly shortly after he left us? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newton51 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 2 minutes ago, dumpson said: As others have said this doesn’t sound like he only intends to be here for a few months. Talks well in the interview and clearly wants to move up here permanently to be with his family so will be going all out to sign here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 (edited) Just now, Newton51 said: Talks well in the interview and clearly wants to move up here permanently to be with his family so will be going all out to sign here is Boyce now surplus. Fraser sounds very impressive. Sounds like game time may be limited for Boyce also Edited January 31 by kingantti1874 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Pretty decisive as well to ditch Lowry for Fraser. No messing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Just now, kingantti1874 said: is Boyce now surplus. Fraser sounds very impressive. Sounds like game time may be limited for Boyce also If Kevin Van Veen signs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarmerTweedy Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 On 30/01/2024 at 20:08, GinRummy said: One of the first things naisy said after the Killie game was praising Devlin for putting his body on the line for the team. It's probably been done to death already so apologies if I'm resurrecting an argument that's died a death since yesterday, but I'd also read that Naismith had been unhappy with Devlin because of lack of tactical/positional discipline, I.e. Devlin would go pressing, chasing, harrying in places and at times when he shouldn't be. I can see how that could have produced something of a falling out if Devlin wasn't totally receptive to Naismith's view on his performances, but if they're both reasonably adult and professional, there's no reason why they couldn't put it behind them and get on with it, and if Naismith has played him afterwards against Killie and publicly praised his contribution, I'd say that suggests they've both done just that! One thing that has seemed to be a key feature of Naismith's management so far has been an apparent desire to not just use the players he's got, but also develop and improve them, and I strongly suspect when Devlin's back fully fit, we'll see him get plenty of game time as long as he can show that bit more tactical discipline in his play. And with Halliday gone and, I expect, Haring away in the summer, I think Devlin will still be here and featuring a lot next season! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watt-Zeefuik Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 8 minutes ago, dumpson said: As others have said this doesn’t sound like he only intends to be here for a few months. Very much feels like a loan to permanent situation provided all the chips fall the right way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 (edited) Listening to him...I like him. And trust me, I hate almost everything and almost everyone. I tell you here, he is going to be a top signing for us. Edited January 31 by i8hibsh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Striker Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 55 minutes ago, Shooter McGavin said: I’m talking more just about the timing, rather than him as a player, his signing has been a bit lost amongst the hysteria around Shankland 😂 Yep. His interview sounded like he's genuinely happy to be here and raring to go. Like you, I get the feeling this guy will surprise us with his energy and overall contribution to the team/squad Its been a brilliant transfer window, regardless of the Shanks situation. If he signs the improved contract, that would be the absolute icing on the cake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newton51 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 8 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said: is Boyce now surplus. Fraser sounds very impressive. Sounds like game time may be limited for Boyce also They did talk up his link play with Boyce at burton but his injury sounds worse than we first thought Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watt-Zeefuik Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 4 minutes ago, FarmerTweedy said: It's probably been done to death already so apologies if I'm resurrecting an argument that's died a death since yesterday, but I'd also read that Naismith had been unhappy with Devlin because of lack of tactical/positional discipline, I.e. Devlin would go pressing, chasing, harrying in places and at times when he shouldn't be. I can see how that could have produced something of a falling out if Devlin wasn't totally receptive to Naismith's view on his performances, but if they're both reasonably adult and professional, there's no reason why they couldn't put it behind them and get on with it, and if Naismith has played him afterwards against Killie and publicly praised his contribution, I'd say that suggests they've both done just that! One thing that has seemed to be a key feature of Naismith's management so far has been an apparent desire to not just use the players he's got, but also develop and improve them, and I strongly suspect when Devlin's back fully fit, we'll see him get plenty of game time as long as he can show that bit more tactical discipline in his play. And with Halliday gone and, I expect, Haring away in the summer, I think Devlin will still be here and featuring a lot next season! On the last paragraph, I was just thinking about that and the difference between Naismith's and Neilson's approaches. This isn't a dig at Robbie, particularly as Halliday has said that man management was his greatest strength, but my sense was that Neilson's approach was put your arm around a guy who's struggling and get his confidence back, the way it was reported he did with Sibbick. If things aren't going right on the pitch, Neilson would head into the film room to try to figure out a way to tweak the formation for the player. If it really wasn't working, he'd drop the player and say let's work on it in training. Addressing where the player could get better in skills and decision-making didn't seem to be a huge part of what he did. Maybe he left it to the other coaches. But he seemed very much interested in the tactics and in encouraging the players, but not coaching improvement. By contrast, Naismith seems very invested in coaching the players to be better. He's taken Alan Forrest, who by consensus here was a hard worker but without much end product, and significantly improved his level of play. If Devlin was making bad decisions, I don't see it as the source of a fallout between the two, but rather something that Naismith was trying to get him to be better at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watt-Zeefuik Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 1 minute ago, Lone Striker said: Yep. His interview sounded like he's genuinely happy to be here and raring to go. Like you, I get the feeling this guy will surprise us with his energy and overall contribution to the team/squad Its been a brilliant transfer window, regardless of the Shanks situation. If he signs the improved contract, that would be the absolute icing on the cake. The biggest downside is that I think Dexter is going to be the next Ellis Simms -- a loanee who does very well for us but whom we fail to keep around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 1 minute ago, Watt-Zeefuik said: On the last paragraph, I was just thinking about that and the difference between Naismith's and Neilson's approaches. This isn't a dig at Robbie, particularly as Halliday has said that man management was his greatest strength, but my sense was that Neilson's approach was put your arm around a guy who's struggling and get his confidence back, the way it was reported he did with Sibbick. If things aren't going right on the pitch, Neilson would head into the film room to try to figure out a way to tweak the formation for the player. If it really wasn't working, he'd drop the player and say let's work on it in training. Addressing where the player could get better in skills and decision-making didn't seem to be a huge part of what he did. Maybe he left it to the other coaches. But he seemed very much interested in the tactics and in encouraging the players, but not coaching improvement. By contrast, Naismith seems very invested in coaching the players to be better. He's taken Alan Forrest, who by consensus here was a hard worker but without much end product, and significantly improved his level of play. If Devlin was making bad decisions, I don't see it as the source of a fallout between the two, but rather something that Naismith was trying to get him to be better at. It was pretty clear at the fan talk. Naismith very keen to work on details. The B team players said that too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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