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Lone Striker
1 hour ago, Dagger Is Back said:

All very sad. Victim debris everywhere 

 

Families ripped apart.

 

Sad

Definitely.   Everyone involved has suffered enormously as things have come to light -  except the Sun, who have most likely benefitted financially.   Would be nice to see them hit with a few  lawsuits for privacy & defamation breaches.

1 hour ago, Cameronstheman said:

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A bit harsh.   As things stand, there's no evidence in the public domain that Huw actually had sex with any of these teenagers.    Unlike these repugnant reprobates.....

 

1 hour ago, William H. Bonney said:

Should have just subscribed to onlyfans. 

Maybe he did ......

49 minutes ago, Ulysses said:

 

 

 

 

 

That's six of the seven deadly sins.  What's the seventh? :cheese: ::troll::

Growing up as a Hibs supporter ? 😎

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The Sun can get the great family reunion story if it hasn't been closed down by then.

 

News of the World was closed down for less. 

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132goals1958
1 minute ago, Rousset1 said:

I do feel some sympathy for poor old Huw.


Not condoning his behaviour but find it somewhat unsavoury the frenzied kicking when he is down. Salacious gossip and media headlines over the last few days totally disproportionate to much more important things going on in the world.

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Portable Badger
58 minutes ago, Dusk_Till_Dawn said:


what

Think he’s talking about the Australian media mogul who owns The Sun

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1 hour ago, Jeff said:

Quite mental how many people are defending him cause the boy was 17...

 

At the end of the day he requested child pornography.

 

Nonce

Except he never done that.

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JudyJudyJudy
1 hour ago, Ulysses said:

 

 

 

 

 

That's six of the seven deadly sins.  What's the seventh? :cheese: ::troll::

Gluttony 

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1 minute ago, jack D and coke said:

 

 

This is bang on. In fact I'm concerned this guy was listening to me in the pub about 40 minutes ago.

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1 hour ago, theshed said:


Sure it was on this thread that someone said this is exactly how it would play out

Yes In a few months story of redemption of sorts . Back with wife , she is “ giving him a second chance “ etc etc 

59 minutes ago, FWJ said:

I hear that on R5 this evening it was noted that the Sun had stopped saying ‘17 year old child’ a few days ago and started saying ‘young man’.  

 

This, too, from the BBC site -
 

“South Wales Police previously said it had told the young person's family there was no criminal wrongdoing after being approached prior to their complaint to the BBC and account to the Sun.

In another statement on Wednesday, the force said it had recently carried out further inquiries and had found "no evidence that any criminal offences have been committed".”

 

So the parents went to the police, didn’t get anywhere, then went to the BBC - who say they tried to contact them but didn’t get a response and then they went to the Sun ?

Sounds like the cash cow was bled dry of money 

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Francis Albert

BBC news now doing its best to whitewash Hew's activities. Repeatedly saying there was nothing criminal. But if he did pay £35000 to this "victim" what was it for exactly? And no mention of any failing of the BBC in handling the whole thing. The Sun castigated of course but if not for the Sun would we ever have known?

 

 

 

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1 minute ago, Francis Albert said:

BBC news now doing its best to whitewash Hew's activities. Repeatedly saying there was nothing criminal. But if he did pay £35000 to this "victim" what was it for exactly? And no mention of any failing of the BBC in handling the whole thing. The Sun castigated of course but if not for the Sun would we ever have known?

 

 

 

Giving someone 35k for naked pictures isnt illegal, just daft.

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jack D and coke
12 minutes ago, BlueRiver said:

 

This is bang on. In fact I'm concerned this guy was listening to me in the pub about 40 minutes ago.

Almost makes you wonder if they do this stuff on purpose. Not just because they dislike the bbc but to completely distract from other stuff and the British public being the clowns they are behave like a pack of hyenas for a nonce expose..
30p Lee saying the bbc harbours perverts too. This is the deputy PM…

 

 

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Francis Albert
5 minutes ago, hughesie27 said:

Giving someone 35k for naked pictures isnt illegal, just daft.

It may not be illegal but paying £35k to find a cocaine habit of a teenager if that is what was is of dubious morality.

 

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12 minutes ago, Francis Albert said:

BBC news now doing its best to whitewash Hew's activities. Repeatedly saying there was nothing criminal. But if he did pay £35000 to this "victim" what was it for exactly? And no mention of any failing of the BBC in handling the whole thing. The Sun castigated of course but if not for the Sun would we ever have known?

 

 

 

Is it any of our business?

 

The Public Interest” isn’t the same as what interests the public.

 

The Public Interest is more about elected politians in the highest office not breaking the law 

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Greedy Jambo

I'd just like to point out that I cancelled my TV license years ago, while you continued to fund it. 

Cheers. 

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jack D and coke
Just now, Greedy Jambo said:

I'd just like to point out that I cancelled my TV license years ago, while you continued to fund it. 

Cheers. 

Has nowt ever happened? You have to tell them or something that you don’t watch live tv or something? 

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Greedy Jambo
5 minutes ago, jack D and coke said:

Has nowt ever happened? You have to tell them or something that you don’t watch live tv or something? 

 

I filled out an online form to say that i only use my TV to play xbox, not that it's any of their business. 

They still waste thousands of pounds sending threatening letters to everyone, which get chucked straight in bin. 

I suppose the mugs that still pay the licence pay for the postage. 

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jack D and coke
2 minutes ago, Greedy Jambo said:

 

I filled out an online form to say that i only use my TV to play xbox, not that it's any of their business. 

They still waste thousands of pounds sending threatening letters to everyone, which get chucked straight in bin. 

Aye I’m gonna do that as well. Actually getting forced into paying is unreal in this day and age. 

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Greedy Jambo
2 minutes ago, jack D and coke said:

Aye I’m gonna do that as well. Actually getting forced into paying is unreal in this day and age. 

 

Scare tactics, mate, I feel sorry for the the older dears that don't know any better, struggling to pay their heating bills. 

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Jambof3tornado
34 minutes ago, hughesie27 said:

Giving someone 35k for naked pictures isnt illegal, just daft.

Yup I'd happily have sent a dickpick for £20.

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i wish jj was my dad
36 minutes ago, Francis Albert said:

BBC news now doing its best to whitewash Hew's activities. Repeatedly saying there was nothing criminal. But if he did pay £35000 to this "victim" what was it for exactly? And no mention of any failing of the BBC in handling the whole thing. The Sun castigated of course but if not for the Sun would we ever have known?

 

 

 

What have the BBC done wrong?  And if he hasn't done anything illegal why do we need to know? 

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Geoff Kilpatrick

I'm just disappointed it wasn't Stephen Nolan. Oh well.

 

Nice that Huw had a spare 35K though from his salary.

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jack D and coke
9 minutes ago, JudyJudyJudy said:

Excellent article 👍

We’re all guilty too I suppose.
And selective about who we choose to hound or feel sympathy for. 
That paper needs ****ing buried for good though. It’s not the only one either. 
People need to adopt the scousers mentality to that outlet and it’s owner. 
 

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4 minutes ago, Nookie Bear said:


He’s probably been a deviant for years as well.

 

 

 

 

Deviant?   Not up to your moral standards?

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jack D and coke
20 minutes ago, Greedy Jambo said:

 

Scare tactics, mate, I feel sorry for the the older dears that don't know any better, struggling to pay their heating bills. 

Is kinda sickening tbh. 

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The Jazz Emu
15 minutes ago, Geoff Kilpatrick said:

I'm just disappointed it wasn't Stephen Nolan. Oh well.

 

Nice that Huw had a spare 35K though from his salary.

How very decent of you to pick on an apparently innocent man.

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Francis Albert
39 minutes ago, FWJ said:

Is it any of our business?

 

The Public Interest” isn’t the same as what interests the public.

 

The Public Interest is more about elected politians in the highest office not breaking the law 

OK. But that is a separate issue. And not the only public interest. Especially if it relates to a public entity we all have to pay for. 

 

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Geoff Kilpatrick
3 minutes ago, C Moon said:

How very decent of you to pick on an apparently innocent man.

:laugh:

 

How was I "picking" on anyone? To be honest, the frenzy about this story is bizarre.

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6 minutes ago, Francis Albert said:

OK. But that is a separate issue. And not the only public interest. Especially if it relates to a public entity we all have to pay for. 

 

So BBC employees have no right to a private life because of the licence fee?

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1 hour ago, jack D and coke said:

Almost makes you wonder if they do this stuff on purpose. Not just because they dislike the bbc but to completely distract from other stuff and the British public being the clowns they are behave like a pack of hyenas for a nonce expose..
30p Lee saying the bbc harbours perverts too. This is the deputy PM…

 

 

 

To be honest I think the more important factor is a British streak of puritanism at times. "We" love this kind of thing. 

 

I think a lot of countries would shrug and consider this a private matter if no criminality was established.

 

Although said the timing makes you wonder, but then you could probably say that when most stories break the last few years. Boris couldn't stay clear of trouble. 

 

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jack D and coke
9 minutes ago, BlueRiver said:

 

To be honest I think the more important factor is a British streak of puritanism at times. "We" love this kind of thing. 

 

I think a lot of countries would shrug and consider this a private matter if no criminality was established.

 

 

I think we’ve been raised on this scum media and actually enjoy it. Or not enjoy it but because it’s someone else getting roasted so we can feel superior or something for a few days. 
Britain invented this stuff to keep us all fighting each other and it seems our media uses it against us too. Like little sheep getting herded into pens. 
The media chooses our prime ministers and destroys whoever they please. 
John Major said he was shocked at the influence Murdoch had when he was in power. There’s no way in any universe on any planet that Boris Johnson could’ve got into any position of power if they didn’t :lol: 

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Francis Albert
11 minutes ago, FWJ said:

So BBC employees have no right to a private life because of the licence fee?

They have the same right to a private life as anyone else. But that does not extend to a public figure paying £35k to someone to feed a cocaine habit for favours rendered. Allegedly subject to his lawyers suing for defamation.

Look I have a great deal of sympathy for Hew and his family. Maybe his mental illness made him think he was not vulnerable to public exposure for his personal life.

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JudyJudyJudy
14 minutes ago, BlueRiver said:

 

To be honest I think the more important factor is a British streak of puritanism at times. "We" love this kind of thing. 

 

I think a lot of countries would shrug and consider this a private matter if no criminality was established.

 

Although said the timing makes you wonder, but then you could probably say that when most stories break the last few years. Boris couldn't stay clear of trouble. 

 

Scandals , in particular related to sex is a very British thing . Been like that for centuries . All the moral Mary’s coming out now desperate to kick a man when he is down really . Thinking they live a moral life I suppose .

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glynnlondon
13 minutes ago, jack D and coke said:

I think we’ve been raised on this scum media and actually enjoy it. Or not enjoy it but because it’s someone else getting roasted so we can feel superior or something for a few days. 
Britain invented this stuff to keep us all fighting each other and it seems our media uses it against us too. Like little sheep getting herded into pens. 
The media chooses our prime ministers and destroys whoever they please. 
John Major said he was shocked at the influence Murdoch had when he was in power. There’s no way in any universe on any planet that Boris Johnson could’ve got into any position of power if they didn’t :lol: 

LOL it was Murdoch put Major in number 10

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jack D and coke
Just now, glynnlondon said:

LOL it was Murdoch put Major in number 10

He’s been electing our pms for decades aye. Doesn’t change the fact. 

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10 minutes ago, JudyJudyJudy said:

Scandals , in particular related to sex is a very British thing . Been like that for centuries . All the moral Mary’s coming out now desperate to kick a man when he is down really . Thinking they live a moral life I suppose .

 

Yep. Stress again I'd perhaps feel differently had there been evidence of criminality (but even then I still wonder if the alleged committed crime warranted this much media action) but there's none according to the Met. 

 

I can have my own view on his conduct but on a human level I feel for him right now, and more particularly his wife and family.

 

Let he who is without sin...

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Lone Striker

Maybe a bit off-topic, but this blog from Jacqui Hames  (former police officer who appeared on Crimewatch regularly,  and is now a campaigner with Hacked Off) touches on her experiences around giving evidence at the Levison inquiry, and her insight into how embedded Murdoch is with the political elite in the UK.     

 

 The terms of reference was to split the inquiry into 2 parts - the first part to hear evidence & testimony from "victims" of phone hacking & press intrusion and to come up with recommendations to prevent repeat occurences.... and the 2nd part to focus on the "activities" of News International  (i.e. Murdoch).      Surprise, surprise - the part 1 recommendations got substantially  watered down, and part 2 was "shelved" by Matt Hancock in 2018. 

 

The word "corruption"  may spring to mind when you read this. 

 

https://hackinginquiry.org/jacqui-hames-my-line-of-duty/

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21 minutes ago, Francis Albert said:

They have the same right to a private life as anyone else. But that does not extend to a public figure paying £35k to someone to feed a cocaine habit for favours rendered. Allegedly subject to his lawyers suing for defamation.

Look I have a great deal of sympathy for Hew and his family. Maybe his mental illness made him think he was not vulnerable to public exposure for his personal life.

Did he know what the money was being spent on?  That’s the responsibility of the person getting the money.

 

Maybe he thought the fact it wasn’t the public’s business made him think his personal life was personal.

(Although working in the cess-pit that is the British media he should have known better.  So guilty of naïvity.  Throw away the key!)

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