Cade Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 Albania! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 Cyprus karate man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 Just now, Cade said: Albania! Best of the night.... Or Lithuania Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FWJ Posted May 11, 2023 Author Share Posted May 11, 2023 Cyprus (douze points from Greece incoming) Estonia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Cade Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 WHAM! I mean, Belgium! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 Shite Austria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Cade Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 Armenian floor dancer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FWJ Posted May 11, 2023 Author Share Posted May 11, 2023 Armenia? Really? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooperstar Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 Got rid of a lot of shite there. A lot of shite through too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 Slovenia! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Japan Jambo Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 41 minutes ago, Japan Jambo said: denmark, armenia, romania, iceland, greece, san marino on the bus Not sure how Armenia made it but hey ho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 44 minutes ago, Cade said: Denmark, Romania, Greece, Georgia, San Marino and Austria the worst of a bad lot in my book. Not sure why Austria are so popular. It's shiiiiiiiiiiiiite. Oot, Oot, Oot, Oot, Oot, In. 5/6 Got Iceland wrong. Still, called 9 out of the 11 losers correctly this week. It's like I've seen Eurovision before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooperstar Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 48 minutes ago, Sooperstar said: Going home are... Greece, Romania, Denmark, San Marino and I'm torn between Iceland and Estonia. I'll go Estonia. All gone except Estonia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooperstar Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 Belgium and Poland my favourites from tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King prawn Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 (edited) 32 minutes ago, Sooperstar said: Spain keeping up their long tradition of being completely shite. No idea why people in Spain are obsessed with the music from the south - it's shite and just involves wailing and clapping out of time Edited May 11, 2023 by King prawn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Masonic Posted May 12, 2023 Share Posted May 12, 2023 ukraine top 5 at 5/4 !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi must stay Posted May 12, 2023 Share Posted May 12, 2023 How lucky were we to get 2nd. Ryder has a big personality but that song last year was average in my view anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jazz Emu Posted May 12, 2023 Share Posted May 12, 2023 I’m still stuck on Sweden. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooperstar Posted May 12, 2023 Share Posted May 12, 2023 I don't think we'll be seeing much more of Mae Muller after this weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted May 12, 2023 Share Posted May 12, 2023 Zelensky been told to bolt from the contest. He was hoping to make a speech. But it was classed as " too political ". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted May 12, 2023 Share Posted May 12, 2023 It just feels wrong that people and countries are eliminated in semi finals. But anyway it is what it is. For similar motives to last year's winner, I'll predict UK to win. Fair play Liverpool doing it well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Japan Jambo Posted May 12, 2023 Share Posted May 12, 2023 1 hour ago, Sooperstar said: I don't think we'll be seeing much more of Mae Muller after this weekend. good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted May 12, 2023 Share Posted May 12, 2023 The Final is 4 hours long with 26 acts as it is. Another 11 entrants would mean a 6-7 hour show. Running order for the final has been published. 1. Austria | Teya & Salena - Who The Hell Is Edgar? 2. Portugal | Mimicat - Ai Coração 3. Switzerland | Remo Forrer - Watergun 4. Poland | Blanka - Solo 5. Serbia | Luke Black - Samo Mi Se Spava 6. France: La Zarra - Évidemment 7. Cyprus | Andrew Lambrou - Break A Broken Heart 8. Spain: Blanca Paloma - Eaea 9. Sweden | Loreen - Tattoo 10. Albania | Albina & Familja Kelmendi - Duje 11. Italy: Marco Mengoni - Due Vite 12. Estonia | Alika - Bridges 13. Finland | Käärijä - Cha Cha Cha 14. Czechia | Vesna - My Sister's Crown 15. Australia | Voyager - Promise 16. Belgium | Gustaph - Because Of You 17. Armenia | Brunette - Future Lover 18. Moldova | Pasha Parfeni - Soarele şi Luna 19. Ukraine: TVORCHI - Heart of Steel 20. Norway | Alessandra - Queen of Kings 21. Germany: Lord of the Lost - Blood & Glitter 22. Lithuania | Monika Linkytė - Stay 23. Israel | Noa Kirel - Unicorn 24. Slovenia | Joker Out - Carpe Diem 25. Croatia | Let 3 - Mama ŠČ! 26. United Kingdom: Mae Muller - I Wrote A Song Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jazz Emu Posted May 12, 2023 Share Posted May 12, 2023 Mae Muller just has something. Can’t put my finger on it, but it’s definitely there. I’m a little bit besotted I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooperstar Posted May 12, 2023 Share Posted May 12, 2023 15 minutes ago, C Moon said: Mae Muller just has something. Can’t put my finger on it, but it’s definitely there. I’m a little bit besotted I think. Something being a complete pain in the arse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted May 12, 2023 Share Posted May 12, 2023 42 minutes ago, Cade said: The Final is 4 hours long with 26 acts as it is. Another 11 entrants would mean a 6-7 hour show. Running order for the final has been published. 1. Austria | Teya & Salena - Who The Hell Is Edgar? 2. Portugal | Mimicat - Ai Coração 3. Switzerland | Remo Forrer - Watergun 4. Poland | Blanka - Solo 5. Serbia | Luke Black - Samo Mi Se Spava 6. France: La Zarra - Évidemment 7. Cyprus | Andrew Lambrou - Break A Broken Heart 8. Spain: Blanca Paloma - Eaea 9. Sweden | Loreen - Tattoo 10. Albania | Albina & Familja Kelmendi - Duje 11. Italy: Marco Mengoni - Due Vite 12. Estonia | Alika - Bridges 13. Finland | Käärijä - Cha Cha Cha 14. Czechia | Vesna - My Sister's Crown 15. Australia | Voyager - Promise 16. Belgium | Gustaph - Because Of You 17. Armenia | Brunette - Future Lover 18. Moldova | Pasha Parfeni - Soarele şi Luna 19. Ukraine: TVORCHI - Heart of Steel 20. Norway | Alessandra - Queen of Kings 21. Germany: Lord of the Lost - Blood & Glitter 22. Lithuania | Monika Linkytė - Stay 23. Israel | Noa Kirel - Unicorn 24. Slovenia | Joker Out - Carpe Diem 25. Croatia | Let 3 - Mama ŠČ! 26. United Kingdom: Mae Muller - I Wrote A Song 36 acts times 3 minutes each. Use 2 stages to allow a 20 second turnaround. Under 2 hours then an hour for the voting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted May 12, 2023 Share Posted May 12, 2023 7 hours ago, rudi must stay said: How lucky were we to get 2nd. Ryder has a big personality but that song last year was average in my view anyway If Ukraine hadn't won the sympathy vote the UK would have won by a country mile. It was easily the best song in last year's contest, and one of the best entries the UK has ever produced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 It's a pish weak contest this year, but is anybody bad enough to get Nul Points? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi must stay Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 7 hours ago, Ulysses said: If Ukraine hadn't won the sympathy vote the UK would have won by a country mile. It was easily the best song in last year's contest, and one of the best entries the UK has ever produced. Ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooperstar Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 7 hours ago, Cade said: It's a pish weak contest this year, but is anybody bad enough to get Nul Points? Germany probably. Haven't heard their song, but it will be shite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtgj Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 4 minutes ago, Sooperstar said: Germany probably. Haven't heard their song, but it will be shite. I think you'll be disappointed! It's a good song. One of my favourites this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamboross Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Sooperstar said: Germany probably. Haven't heard their song, but it will be shite. It is but in a good way, kinda camp goth metal that reminds me of a couple of bands I liked when I was a teenager. It'll likely end up somewhere in the middle of the pack. Don't think there's any really obvious candidates for nul points, lots of mediocre guff but nothing that is so shit it stands out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FWJ Posted May 13, 2023 Author Share Posted May 13, 2023 (edited) 11 hours ago, Ulysses said: If Ukraine hadn't won the sympathy vote the UK would have won by a country mile. It was easily the best song in last year's contest, and one of the best entries the UK has ever produced. I remember some murmuring from Spain about the votes from some countries that were cancelled by the EBU because of “irregularities” and replaced by votes determined by votes from countries with similar voting patterns. Spain was only 7 (seven) points behind the U.K. and felt that they could have taken second place. The landslide for Ukraine possibly stopped a lot more searching questions about the replacement votes. Anyway, what’s up with Ireland recently? Only 2 finals out of the last 10? Is it falling out of favour? RTE not wanting the hassle? Soul-searching about the regular failure to qualify? Edited May 13, 2023 by FWJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 https://eurovision.tv/mediacentre/release/ebu-statement-irregular-voting-2022 This was the last major voting scandal. For a semi final and only for the jury votes. A very strange bunch of 6 nations choosing to collude, not really a regional bloc. Azerbaijan, Georgia, Montenegro, Poland, Romania and San Marino are not the first nations that spring to mind when you think of voting blocs. Azerbaijan, Romania and Georgia refused to accept the aggregated scores and had their results read out by the Eurovision head honcho. All nations involved quietly dropped their objections. The semis this year were 100% public vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionDJambo Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 This might seem petty, or even a bit xenophobic, but not the intention. I think that there should a rule that the songs must be performed in the language of the country the singer(s) are representing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 Eurovision has had language restrictions in the past, it's been changed several times. 1956-65; no restrictions 66-72; language must be one of the official languages of that nation 73-76; no restrictions 77-98; language must be one of the official languages of that nation 99-now; no restrictions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 3 hours ago, FWJ said: Anyway, what’s up with Ireland recently? Only 2 finals out of the last 10? Is it falling out of favour? RTE not wanting the hassle? Soul-searching about the regular failure to qualify? We've been off our game for years. There are all sorts of theories as to why, but I think it's not that we've become crap lately, more that we got spectacularly lucky back in the 90s when it was a much smaller event than it is today, and much easier for countries with English as a first language to do well. Ireland and the UK have fared far worse in the competition ever since the language restrictions were completely relaxed in 1999. We also participate in Junior Eurovision, and oddly enough we don't send English songs. The national song competition is run by TG4, the Irish-language TV station, and there are no English-language songs in the competition. One media head here was saying that RTÉ have the national song contest too closely linked with one of its major light entertainment TV shows. Because of that, he reckons the contest is a bit of a closed shop even though officially it's open to everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FWJ Posted May 13, 2023 Author Share Posted May 13, 2023 Certainly true about the language restrictions - the U.K. had 5 wins and 15 second places prior to 2000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 (edited) Winners by language (all time): 34 English 15 French 3 Dutch 3 Italian 3 Hebrew 2 German 2 Spanish 2 Swedish 2 Norwegian 2 Ukrainian 1 Danish 1 Serbo-Croat 1 Serbian 1 Crimean Tatar 1 Portuguese Winners by language (since 1999): 19 English 2 Ukrainian (2004, 2022) 1 Italian (2021) 1 Serbian (2007) 1 Crimean Tatar (2016) 1 Portuguese (2017) Yes, the 2nd list adds up to 25 years.....Ukraine had English and native languages in their songs in 2004 and 2016. No contest took place in 2021. Edited May 13, 2023 by Cade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 3 minutes ago, Cade said: Winners by language (all time): 34 English 15 French 3 Dutch 3 Italian 3 Hebrew 2 German 2 Spanish 2 Swedish 2 Norwegian 2 Ukrainian 1 Danish 1 Serbo-Croat 1 Serbian 1 Crimean Tatar 1 Portuguese Winners by language (since 1999): 19 English 2 Ukrainian (2004, 2022) 1 Italian (2021) 1 Serbian (2007) 1 Crimean Tatar (2016) 1 Portuguese (2017) I'd guess that a fair percentage of the French-language wins came between 1956 and the mid-1970s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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