the posh bit Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 3 hours ago, hughesie27 said: Not seen a single outraged post about this from anyone on my Social Medias. Usually this sort of thing would be rife, especially from Mums. Maybe it's because "she looks so normal" aka not black. Or male. I've seen a few posts from women suggesting that something awful must have happened in her past to motivate her to kill these babies though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 About time those on trial are dragged into the dock for sentencing!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooperstar Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 There was a criminolost on l Panorama last night and he basically said 'she doesn't fit the profile, she didn't do it'. She ****ing did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooperstar Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, hughesie27 said: Not seen a single outraged post about this from anyone on my Social Medias. Usually this sort of thing would be rife, especially from Mums. Maybe it's because "she looks so normal" aka not black. If it was a toss up between her doing it or you shagging someone 34 times in a day then I know what I'd believe. Edited August 19, 2023 by Sooperstar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 4 hours ago, SwindonJambo said: I wholeheartedly agree. Cronyism and Nepotism are absolutely rife and there are loads of totally incompetent dickheads in senior posts they aren’t qualified for. It wasn’t always this way but it’s been steadily worsening for 20+ years. An absolute shitshow. The Peter Principle in action. This theorises that people can only be promoted up to a point where they are slightly too incompetent and bad at their job to get promoted any further. Eventually, every role in that organisation is filled with incompetents. Then that's when serious problems start happening in that organisation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFK-1 Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 There has to be a public inquiry. None of this optional testimony crap, make them talk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFK-1 Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 A paediatric nurse calls Sangita Myska to say she can see how Lucy Letby was able to get away with her crimes as she herself was 'blacklisted' when she reported a colleague. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughesie27 Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 7 hours ago, Sooperstar said: If it was a toss up between her doing it or you shagging someone 34 times in a day then I know what I'd believe. That makes no sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bindy Badgy Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 1 hour ago, JFK-1 said: A paediatric nurse calls Sangita Myska to say she can see how Lucy Letby was able to get away with her crimes as she herself was 'blacklisted' when she reported a colleague. A few of the calls into LBC are damming. Obviously, these are random people calling in with no one verifying that they are who they say they are but, it matches the experiences of the people that initially raised concerns about Letby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFK-1 Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 9 minutes ago, Bindy Badgy said: A few of the calls into LBC are damming. Obviously, these are random people calling in with no one verifying that they are who they say they are but, it matches the experiences of the people that initially raised concerns about Letby. That's the only LBC video I have ever looked at but that one sounded genuine to me, she could describe procedures and more. Plus what she had to say comes across as plausible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 52 minutes ago, JFK-1 said: That's the only LBC video I have ever looked at but that one sounded genuine to me, she could describe procedures and more. Plus what she had to say comes across as plausible. I get that employment law requires you to be fair to everyone and not to just jump on any complaint at the first opportunity but the concerns in the Letby case were so vast and it’s blatantly obvious that the hospital were trying to save their own skin. I’ll say it again, none of the main players will show up at the inquiry. They’ll seek legal representation and be told not to speak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 16 hours ago, hughesie27 said: Not seen a single outraged post about this from anyone on my Social Medias. Usually this sort of thing would be rife, especially from Mums. Maybe it's because "she looks so normal" aka not black. Really? Have you not read this thread? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughesie27 Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 37 minutes ago, Black Swan said: Really? Have you not read this thread? Not the type of social media I'm talking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Striker Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 23 minutes ago, hughesie27 said: Not the type of social media I'm talking about. What other social media is more important or relevant than JKB ? C'mon - spill the beans 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
been here before Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Lone Striker said: What other social media is more important or relevant than JKB ? C'mon - spill the beans 😉 Well mumsnet and the Daily Mail comments for a start. Unless Im being unreasonable. Edited August 20, 2023 by been here before Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 4 hours ago, JFK-1 said: A paediatric nurse calls Sangita Myska to say she can see how Lucy Letby was able to get away with her crimes as she herself was 'blacklisted' when she reported a colleague. I can't help wondering why the 4 paediatricians who thought bairns were being killed didn't go to the police after management didn't take action. If you thought bairns were being harmed, would your manager be able to stop you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 Hope she is giving Some special treatment from the hard nuts in the jail . Scum . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milky_26 Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 13 minutes ago, Smithee said: I can't help wondering why the 4 paediatricians who thought bairns were being killed didn't go to the police after management didn't take action. If you thought bairns were being harmed, would your manager be able to stop you? possibly fear of losing their career and being blacklisted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 25 minutes ago, milky_26 said: possibly fear of losing their career and being blacklisted Would that be your priority if bairns were dying? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FWJ Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, Smithee said: Would that be your priority if bairns were dying? Weren’t they threatened with disciplinary action if they went to the police? And of course at that stage they may have thought it was incompetence - which would be for the hospital / trust to deal with. It’s a huge leap - an almost unimaginable leap to start thinking babies were actually being murdered. Edit: And where would the police’s first port of call have been? The hospital trust. Edited August 20, 2023 by FWJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Better call Saul Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 Absolutely heart breaking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 Sentencing today. Surely a whole life sentence, no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Findlay Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, Dusk_Till_Dawn said: Sentencing today. Surely a whole life sentence, no? Should be a case of locking her up and throwing away the key. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 Victim impact statements being read in court. No wonder the feckin coward refuses to face that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homme Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 These victim statements are harrowing. How dare that coward refuse to attend and listen to the impact she has had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 8 jurors in court too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
micole Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 3 hours ago, John Findlay said: Should be a case of locking her up and throwing away the key. Put her against a wall and shoot her.....😡 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day@theraces Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 She should be absolutely forced to be in court for sentencing and to hear the Victims statements, even if she has to be wheeled in Hannibal Lecter style. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 I just hope that the 2 managers who were repeatedly warned about Letby and choose to ignore the warnings, face a criminal investigation and possible charges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 I just don't understand why anyone would do that let alone a nurse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 Former nursing manager Alison Kelly who was at the Countess of Chester Hospital at the time of Letby's crimes and did nothing about them, has, in light of information emerging at the trial, been suspended from her position at Northern Care Alliance. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-66569258 Good, but there are more senior managers who need to be brought to account for their inaction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallPaul Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 I don't think there has ever been a better argument than this to bring back capital punishment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tokyowalnut Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 59 minutes ago, Jambo-Jimbo said: I just hope that the 2 managers who were repeatedly warned about Letby and choose to ignore the warnings, face a criminal investigation and possible charges. Absolutely, this goes far deeper than Letby. There should be further charges brought to those who ignored the warnings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homme Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 Whole life order. No release, ever. Good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
been here before Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 Life for each murder/attempted murder. Whole life order on each offence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 She'll top herself in the nick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highlandjambo3 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 7 minutes ago, Cruyff said: She'll be topped in the nick. FTFY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyNic Posted August 21, 2023 Author Share Posted August 21, 2023 8 minutes ago, Cruyff said: She'll top herself in the nick. Either that or killed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shooter McGavin Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 I don’t get the capital punishment argument. That just seems like a quick get out for someone like this. Would much rather they got proper life sentences, and lived the rest of their life in misery and fear. I can’t even imagine how someone could mentally deal with the fact they’ll be in a cell until they die, knowing how great life can be and how you only get one chance at it and you’ve completely f***** yours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionDJambo Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Day@theraces said: She should be absolutely forced to be in court for sentencing and to hear the Victims statements, even if she has to be wheeled in Hannibal Lecter style. Every chance she would have enjoyed listening to the Victims' statements. She probably watched and revelled in their agony whilst on duty in the hospital. She won't have the courage to face the families again, though, now that she's been exposed and proven to be a murderer of helpless babies. I seriously doubt that she will survive long in prison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homme Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 They should be piping those victim statements and sentencing into whatever cell she is holed up in if she refused to attend the courtroom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horatio Caine Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 52 minutes ago, Cruyff said: I just don't understand why anyone would do that let alone a nurse. Because they are seriously mentally ill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Findlay Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 6 minutes ago, Horatio Caine said: Because they are seriously mentally ill. Or just evil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joondalupjambo Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 Without understanding anything about the legal rules / issues currently in place that allow the guilty to chose not to appear at sentencing is it not the case that said legal rules/ issues are the problem and not the person? At the moment Letby has the right to refuse albeit that sounds mad when you think about it. Change the rules to make sure guilty people have to attend and if they refuse drag them in if need be. Is that not what needs done? This is not the first time this has happened so why do the judiciary not change the rules? What are the issues stopping that happening? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joondalupjambo Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 3 minutes ago, joondalupjambo said: Without understanding anything about the legal rules / issues currently in place that allow the guilty to chose not to appear at sentencing is it not the case that said legal rules/ issues are the problem and not the person? At the moment Letby has the right to refuse albeit that sounds mad when you think about it. Change the rules to make sure guilty people have to attend and if they refuse drag them in if need be. Is that not what needs done? This is not the first time this has happened so why do the judiciary not change the rules? What are the issues stopping that happening? Edit - appears that politicians need to get involved to influence the change. https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/636546 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joondalupjambo Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 Just now, joondalupjambo said: https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/636546 Only 33k have signed this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 5 minutes ago, joondalupjambo said: Without understanding anything about the legal rules / issues currently in place that allow the guilty to chose not to appear at sentencing is it not the case that said legal rules/ issues are the problem and not the person? At the moment Letby has the right to refuse albeit that sounds mad when you think about it. Change the rules to make sure guilty people have to attend and if they refuse drag them in if need be. Is that not what needs done? This is not the first time this has happened so why do the judiciary not change the rules? What are the issues stopping that happening? Change in the law. The Government promised to do that some time ago but presumably hasn't been able to fit in it alongside ending protest and making immigration harder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 Good thing as well is that it’s almost impossible for her to appeal this. She can appeal the convictions, although she would have to present new evidence and she won’t have any. But without overturning those convictions, she’s got zero change of arguing that a whole life sentence is disproportionate. The last anyone’s seen of her, which is a small comfort I guess. I really can’t get my head around the idea of sitting in a cell from the age of 33 onwards, knowing the heinous things you’ve done. Truly baffling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 5 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: Change in the law. The Government promised to do that some time ago but presumably hasn't been able to fit in it alongside ending protest and making immigration harder. Yeah, they really do have their priorities in order. But now the Daily Mail are hot on it, they’ll have the law changed in no time. Charlatans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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