JAYEL Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, Shanks said no said: Kris Boyd is an utter moron (I know we all know but why do Sky persist?) The weegie media’s man in London Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Morgan Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 Surprised Aberdeen let Besuijen go, always thought he looked decent and done Hill for their disallowed goal vs us at Tynecastle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watt-Zeefuik Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 1 hour ago, Robbies Tackle said: “We’ll try to get Callum in the summer but let’s be honest, Sheffield Wednesday are a massive club. If they get into the Championship and Callum helps him get promoted then you never know. We’ll have an interest but we need to wait and see on that one. Told you there was no Pre-contract arranged and he could stay down there. On the other hand we just found out now that we've known Humps is staying for the past two weeks and only dropped the dime today. This management team keeps secrets extremely well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naisys Tackle Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 42 minutes ago, Led Tasso said: On the other hand we just found out now that we've known Humps is staying for the past two weeks and only dropped the dime today. This management team keeps secrets extremely well. He's not signed a PCA mate. There's interest by others and Sheff Weds may want to keep him. I still think he will sign though. That's been the plan all along. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosanostra Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 2 hours ago, Pistol1874 said: His name is James Wilson and he rejected Rangers. Any idea if he's staying at Hearts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bawheed Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 18 minutes ago, Robbies Tackle said: He's not signed a PCA mate. There's interest by others and Sheff Weds may want to keep him. I still think he will sign though. That's been the plan all along. Don’t know if he’s what we need then again was happily surprised by the change and form of Halliday, so you have to just trust what they see. Just hope it’s not a Kio signing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naisys Tackle Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 1 minute ago, bawheed said: Don’t know if he’s what we need then again was happily surprised by the change and form of Halliday, so you have to just trust what they see. Just hope it’s not a Kio signing Callums much better than Kio but yeah we're pretty much covered. Yes I know we have to wait a few years for Kio to come good before anyone starts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i wish jj was my dad Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 5 hours ago, Led Tasso said: On the other hand we just found out now that we've known Humps is staying for the past two weeks and only dropped the dime today. This management team keeps secrets extremely well. One thing we should have learned by now is that the club know what they are doing. Not that long ago we had experts laughing at the prospect of signing Callum, then telling us where he could or couldn't play and they should know because. We've also been told we'd go into meltdown if we didn't sign him . I'm personally disappointed we haven't got him this season because I think he is a proper game changer and possibly the difference between winning the cup. No meltdown mind. We still have a fantastic squad despite our injuries and our public pursuit suggests to me that JS and RN are confident we will get him in the summer. It looks to me that SW set a price that was just to high to bring him in now. I trust their judgement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Panzee Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 8 hours ago, Notts1874 said: Oh don't worry, some idiot already has mentioned it 🤦♂️🤦♂️ in that case can I also, in true 'total lack of imagination' JKB-style, mention Jimmy Dunne. There. I've said it. Feel much better now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyRightPeg Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 Pretty top window all things considered. Exciting attackers in the door. Shrewd loan move for Hill. Key asset tied down for 5 years, adding to his already ascending value. Bids for Sibbick hit for a home run. No outgoings other than development loans. Top work Mr Savage & co. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Quaresma Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 12 hours ago, Chevy Chase said: Settle. 11 hours ago, soonbe110 said: Not in the current year unless we win the cup and/or sell players in the summer. I see that Benefactor donations and FoH Donations are not included in the turnover figures That was included for the £28M figure There was a quote from Ann Budge of around £21M plus £5M donations and a subsequent update from our CEO of a combined figure of over £27M, but that was over a month ago and surely doesn't include a bit more incomings from the Scottish cup Couldn't find the CEO quote from a post on here, but it was posted on here, but the Budge numbers were observed on here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Quaresma Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 Well, it doesn't seem like SW were going to accept any sort of offer for CP They really want to keep him for a league winning push; can't blame them really However, I hope he scoops loads of bonuses from them for winning the L1 title *****s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigO Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 9 hours ago, Bauld said: I ****ing love Joe Savage. I love Joe. Total, eye fluttering, weak at the knees, butterflies in my tummy, love. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 9 hours ago, Bauld said: I ****ing love Joe Savage. That’s a brilliant comment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Loblaw Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 9 hours ago, jamboinglasgow said: yeah, a few quotes about missing out on Paterson and about how we would not sell Shankland doesn't do it justice. Was surprised how comprehensive it was. Even talking about what the club has learnt from playing in Europe this season that it will take into next season if we qualify. Where was the interview about? Wouldn't mind listening to it if possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonbe110 Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 13 hours ago, Sooks said: Early night for me, then . Braw Never believe everything the media report😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonbe110 Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 38 minutes ago, Ricardo Quaresma said: I see that Benefactor donations and FoH Donations are not included in the turnover figures That was included for the £28M figure There was a quote from Ann Budge of around £21M plus £5M donations and a subsequent update from our CEO of a combined figure of over £27M, but that was over a month ago and surely doesn't include a bit more incomings from the Scottish cup Couldn't find the CEO quote from a post on here, but it was posted on here, but the Budge numbers were observed on here The finance director and chair both said they hoped total income would possibly reach £26m in the current financial year at the agm. The only things that would that up that a couple of million would be a cup win and the sale of players. Given we didn’t sell anyone in January it’s now very unlikely to be much higher than their projection. Unless of course Sir James puts his hand in his pocket again for an infrastructure project. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 So we all need to support Plymouth, Ipswich and Derby then. Sheff Weds going up, however conversely that may not be a bad thing, they may look for upgrades too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Quaresma Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 8 minutes ago, soonbe110 said: The finance director and chair both said they hoped total income would possibly reach £26m in the current financial year at the agm. The only things that would that up that a couple of million would be a cup win and the sale of players. Given we didn’t sell anyone in January it’s now very unlikely to be much higher than their projection. Unless of course Sir James puts his hand in his pocket again for an infrastructure project. Yeah, we'll see, it's all good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WageThief Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 2 hours ago, Bob Loblaw said: Where was the interview about? Wouldn't mind listening to it if possible. I've not listened yet, but it was on last nights sportsound I think, which is here https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p0f05lsj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Loblaw Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 4 minutes ago, WageThief said: I've not listened yet, but it was on last nights sportsound I think, which is here https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p0f05lsj Cheers, will see if I can get it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WageThief Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 48 minutes ago, Bob Loblaw said: Cheers, will see if I can get it Think it took place prior to the podcast recording actually. Worth it so far anyway to hear Levein claim there was nothing wrong with Ross County's goal last night. Which might be the case as I've not seen it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistol1874 Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 11 hours ago, cosanostra said: Any idea if he's staying at Hearts? He was certainly leaning that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batistuta87 Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 32 minutes ago, Pistol1874 said: He was certainly leaning that way. That would be another good bit of business. I'm sure we'll be in his ear telling him Hearts is a good place for him to be - that we'll play him when he's ready, and that we won't stand in his way if offers from bigger clubs come in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistol1874 Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Batistuta87 said: That would be another good bit of business. I'm sure we'll be in his ear telling him Hearts is a good place for him to be - that we'll play him when he's ready, and that we won't stand in his way if offers from bigger clubs come in. His dad is a really nice guy and I’m sure he’ll make good choices. Not relevant to what James ultimately decides, but he has siblings further down the youth structure too. Edited February 1, 2023 by Pistol1874 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Loblaw Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 14 minutes ago, Pistol1874 said: His dad is a really nice guy and I’m sure he’ll make good choices. Not relevant to what James ultimately decides, but he has siblings further down the youth structure too. He turns 16 in March, when that happens we can let him play for the B team as well I believe. Give him exposure and a taste of a step up. If we get him right in the team it will show we have a bit faith in him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Wood, Would You? Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 Cammy Logan off to QoS until end of season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shooter McGavin Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 Really glad this is the attitude we’re adopting. And before anybody gets all worked up, at no point does Savage claim he’s worth £15 million, the headline is misleading. But great to see we’ll no longer be accepting derisory offers from the likes of Blackpool. You want our players, you’ll pay accordingly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watt-Zeefuik Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 1 hour ago, Shooter McGavin said: Really glad this is the attitude we’re adopting. And before anybody gets all worked up, at no point does Savage claim he’s worth £15 million, the headline is misleading. But great to see we’ll no longer be accepting derisory offers from the likes of Blackpool. You want our players, you’ll pay accordingly. Right. It's an valid argument that Rowles was only half as good as Souttar in the WC. So the bidding starts at £7.5m. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carter Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 1 hour ago, Shooter McGavin said: Really glad this is the attitude we’re adopting. And before anybody gets all worked up, at no point does Savage claim he’s worth £15 million, the headline is misleading. But great to see we’ll no longer be accepting derisory offers from the likes of Blackpool. You want our players, you’ll pay accordingly. The challenge becomes what you can or need to pay someone you value at several million pounds. Wonder if there is a release clause figure in his new deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavydavy Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 5 minutes ago, Led Tasso said: Right. It's an valid argument that Rowles was only half as good as Souttar in the WC. So the bidding starts at £7.5m. Another good reason to have him tied up on a five year deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooks Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 11 minutes ago, Carter said: The challenge becomes what you can or need to pay someone you value at several million pounds. Wonder if there is a release clause figure in his new deal. In all honesty I have always viewed that argument as a complete pile of total pish . A value is what another team is willing to pay and his current wages have nothing to do with it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carter Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 10 minutes ago, Sooks said: In all honesty I have always viewed that argument as a complete pile of total pish . A value is what another team is willing to pay and his current wages have nothing to do with it It is relevant though. Where a player sees their perceived value in the wider market has a bearing on what they expect to be paid and what they'll be prepared to accept, which will largely depend on what a club can afford to pay. This is why we've been unable to retain and extend Souttar as recently as last season and why we had to accept what felt a low ball figure for Hickey. Hearts clearly see Rowles as a saleable asset and have moved to secure his services for an extended period. What we ultimately achieve for him will be down to what someone is willing to pay. If that doesn't match our value of the player he won't be going anywhere. In this case the club look well protected. I'd very very surprised if Hearts or Rowles expect him to see out the duration of his contract. This very much seems to be a case where we can see significant upside in player trading realisation. Something we've not been good at doing as AB addressed at last AGM. I think these things are a little more complex and nuanced than how you've tried to articulate though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooks Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 17 minutes ago, Carter said: It is relevant though. Where a player sees their perceived value in the wider market has a bearing on what they expect to be paid and what they'll be prepared to accept, which will largely depend on what a club can afford to pay. This is why we've been unable to retain and extend Souttar as recently as last season and why we had to accept what felt a low ball figure for Hickey. Hearts clearly see Rowles as a saleable asset and have moved to secure his services for an extended period. What we ultimately achieve for him will be down to what someone is willing to pay. If that doesn't match our value of the player he won't be going anywhere. In this case the club look well protected. I'd very very surprised if Hearts or Rowles expect him to see out the duration of his contract. This very much seems to be a case where we can see significant upside in player trading realisation. Something we've not been good at doing as AB addressed at last AGM. I think these things are a little more complex and nuanced than how you've tried to articulate though. The bit in bold - The reason we lost John Souttar and Hickey for relative buttons was because they refused to extend their contracts with us . Rowles is happy to stay here for the time being because he values security over cash at the moment and his wife is studying here I believe . Rowles will not be on the sort of wages that Harry Souttar is on but he will be on good wages for us as a club . With him being on an extended deal , then regardless of wages we can insist on any fee we like , and it will not be determined by what he collects each month . this whole wages of an x million player seemed to start with that horrible wee Scots agent who used it as leverage to get Brown and Thomson out of Hibs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Section Q Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 Calum Paterson got the winner today to take Sheff Wed top of the 1st division. Can see him getting a new deal if they go up... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTT Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 On 03/02/2023 at 15:30, Sooks said: The bit in bold - The reason we lost John Souttar and Hickey for relative buttons was because they refused to extend their contracts with us . Rowles is happy to stay here for the time being because he values security over cash at the moment and his wife is studying here I believe . Rowles will not be on the sort of wages that Harry Souttar is on but he will be on good wages for us as a club . With him being on an extended deal , then regardless of wages we can insist on any fee we like , and it will not be determined by what he collects each month . this whole wages of an x million player seemed to start with that horrible wee Scots agent who used it as leverage to get Brown and Thomson out of Hibs With that in mind, getting Shanks, Devlin and Beni on new deals pronto would be good to see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 17 hours ago, Section Q said: Calum Paterson got the winner today to take Sheff Wed top of the 1st division. Can see him getting a new deal if they go up... MoM as well. I agree about him getting a new deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Mikey Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 Glad to see this mammoth thread sinking. But, just as a last gasp with reference to Paterson, a certain low-rent tabloid posted a take on our rejected final day of the window offer and referred to us as ... wait for it ... The Jammies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riccarton3 Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 On 04/02/2023 at 22:44, Section Q said: Calum Paterson got the winner today to take Sheff Wed top of the 1st division. Can see him getting a new deal if they go up... What goes by you is not for you or whatever the phrase is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 14 hours ago, Wee Mikey said: Glad to see this mammoth thread sinking. But, just as a last gasp with reference to Paterson, a certain low-rent tabloid posted a take on our rejected final day of the window offer and referred to us as ... wait for it ... The Jammies. That’s a belter. Must have Hobo tendencies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts007 Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 On 04/02/2023 at 22:44, Section Q said: Calum Paterson got the winner today to take Sheff Wed top of the 1st division. Can see him getting a new deal if they go up... yup although some on here saying he still wants back up the road and Sheffield are skint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riccarton3 Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 8 minutes ago, Hearts007 said: yup although some on here saying he still wants back up the road and Sheffield are skint Wouldn't they get a big windfall from promotion? And he must be on some eye watering salary compared to what we could offer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts007 Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 3 minutes ago, Riccarton3 said: Wouldn't they get a big windfall from promotion? And he must be on some eye watering salary compared to what we could offer? Bound too and also other championship teams maybe interested in Paterson and lower end EPL sides blowing away what we could offer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooks Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 Probably also worth considering that if Wednesday get promotion they would be able to spend and bring in better players than Paterson , believe it or not there are a couple out there , and he might find game time a bit limited all over again . All just ifs and maybes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riccarton3 Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 15 minutes ago, Hearts007 said: Bound too and also other championship teams maybe interested in Paterson and lower end EPL sides blowing away what we could offer I just get the feeling Paterson can milk it for at least another 2 to 3 years before returning home. See what happens. Loved him as a player here - winning mentality whoever he was up against. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigO Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 16 minutes ago, Sooks said: Probably also worth considering that if Wednesday get promotion they would be able to spend and bring in better players than Paterson , believe it or not there are a couple out there , and he might find game time a bit limited all over again . All just ifs and maybes Yep, rightly or wrongly, I would htink Sheff Wed would try to recruit beyond Callum if they went up (blow loads of money on pish and go back down, I mean!). Would work in our favour if they went up, in a way. Would love to have him back. See in games where we're a bit pedestrian and even Robbie is saying we're not being positive or aggressive enough... step forward Mr CPatz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts007 Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 7 minutes ago, Riccarton3 said: I just get the feeling Paterson can milk it for at least another 2 to 3 years before returning home. See what happens. Loved him as a player here - winning mentality whoever he was up against. Probably will do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upgotheheads Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 What's the position with Finlay Pollock? Long term injury? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 4 hours ago, upgotheheads said: What's the position with Finlay Pollock? Long term injury? Nope. He's been in and out of the B team, without standing out above his team mates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigteam Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 19 hours ago, Footballfirst said: Nope. He's been in and out of the B team, without standing out above his team mates. Yes I’m told he has growing issues with knees and shouldn’t really have been playing for months ….. despite this from I have seen is work rate and off the ball movement his way ahead of B team level Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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