stuart500 Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Ked said: Not only do they lockdown they are now deleting threads. Ron's boy thread replacing criticism with praise. 😄 Imagine Lee Johnson's surgeon taking the same approach to his job as Ron Gordon's son. Just keep making random incisions until hopefully you make one somewhere near the mark. Eventually you might get lucky but the patient is in a critical condition by that time. Keep up the great work Ian. Keep hacking away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigPhysicalHearts Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 16 hours ago, Rudy T said: If he’s prone to a tantrum you can be sure every defender in the league will go out their way to wind him up! Can just see Cammy Devlin ruffling his hair with a wee grin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martoon Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 10 minutes ago, Marvin said: I forgot they had a bigger capacity. Doesn't equate to bums on seats. It makes them look more pitiful with half empty stands on televised games, whereas Tynie looks great with full stands. 5 minutes ago, Halliphax said: Honestly if the difference was substantial I’d be bothered but for the sake of 300 or so seats I think I’ll survive - it’s staggering that they bang on about such a marginal difference All that fuss over a few hundred seats. Still, that and 1973 is all that they have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halliphax Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 1 minute ago, martoon said: All that fuss over a few hundred seats. Still, that and 1973 is all that they have. Every Hibee that has ever brought up 1973 to me as a retort wasn’t even alive to see it - it’s delightful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 12 minutes ago, Halliphax said: Honestly if the difference was substantial I’d be bothered but for the sake of 300 or so seats I think I’ll survive - it’s staggering that they bang on about such a marginal difference Yeah iirc it is only a few hundred difference. Nothing to keep me awake at night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martoon Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 Just now, Halliphax said: Every Hibee that has ever brought up 1973 to me as a retort wasn’t even alive to see it - it’s delightful I was 4½ at the time and have no recollection of it. Anyone my age, or under, dredging it up is ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August Landmesser Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 4 hours ago, Sooks said: I guess Humphrys saw the Hibs Cow Shed when the Raggydoll was unveiled there earlier in the day and as such feels able to compare that's a much nicer outfit than the one he'll have to wear for his day job though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister T Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 1 hour ago, August Landmesser said: that's a much nicer outfit than the one he'll have to wear for his day job though. He'll still look like a clown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/football/hibs-vs-st-johnstone-lands-new-date-with-ticket-costs-slashed-as-part-of-trial-for-new-initiative/ar-AA11JEeM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thee jambo Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 7 minutes ago, Rudolf said: https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/football/hibs-vs-st-johnstone-lands-new-date-with-ticket-costs-slashed-as-part-of-trial-for-new-initiative/ar-AA11JEeM Apparently, they are "A leader and innovator in Scotland" 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerryjambo41 Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 On 03/09/2022 at 13:50, martoon said: I was 4½ at the time and have no recollection of it. Anyone my age, or under, dredging it up is ridiculous. I was 9 at the time and have absolutely no recollection of it either although I do remember the game from September 73 😂, which we could have avenged 7 that day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gav M Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 3 hours ago, Rudolf said: https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/football/hibs-vs-st-johnstone-lands-new-date-with-ticket-costs-slashed-as-part-of-trial-for-new-initiative/ar-AA11JEeM so as the sfa are happy trial the initiative of having more early kick offs to aid clubs during the rising energy costs, Hibs are taking the initiative back and doing the opposite! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 14 minutes ago, Gav M said: so as the sfa are happy trial the initiative of having more early kick offs to aid clubs during the rising energy costs, Hibs are taking the initiative back and doing the opposite! The gate money may not cover the leccy bill🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martoon Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, gerryjambo41 said: I was 9 at the time and have absolutely no recollection of it either although I do remember the game from September 73 😂, which we could have avenged 7 that day Aye. I've only ever seen the goals from Sep 73 but was aware from a young age that it may have been more. I was also made aware of what a cathartic day it was for my dad, uncles, Papa and the Hearts support on the day. I want numerical revenge for it in my lifetime. I've been at a few derbies when I've thought "today's the day" and I'm convinced that, one day, it will be. It would finish they scuttling, emailing, feckers off. Edited September 12, 2022 by martoon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naisys Tackle Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 31 minutes ago, Gav M said: so as the sfa are happy trial the initiative of having more early kick offs to aid clubs during the rising energy costs, Hibs are taking the initiative back and doing the opposite! Friday nights are much better than Sundays. Would have thought a lot more supporters will be there too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naisys Tackle Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 9 minutes ago, martoon said: Aye. I've only ever seen the goals from Sep 73 but was aware from a young age that it may have been more. I was also made aware of what a cathartic day it was for my dad, uncles, Papa and the Hearts support on the day. I want numerical revenge for it in my lifetime. I've been at a few derbies when I've thought "today's the day" and I'm convinced that, one day, it will be. It would finish they scuttling, emailing, feckers off. 2012 should have been the day. Before that 4-1 at New Year under Rix. 4 up 50 mins gone and they got a man sent off and Zibbi was having a complete shitemare as usual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 43 minutes ago, Robbies Tackle said: Friday nights are much better than Sundays. Would have thought a lot more supporters will be there too. I’m sure there will be a bigger attendance than normal as they’ve stiffed their ST holders and are charging £10 and £5 for tickets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naisys Tackle Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, Rudolf said: I’m sure there will be a bigger attendance than normal as they’ve stiffed their ST holders and are charging £10 and £5 for tickets. Seems a good way of attracting supporters for a shanner of a game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martoon Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 3 hours ago, Robbies Tackle said: 2012 should have been the day. Before that 4-1 at New Year under Rix. 4 up 50 mins gone and they got a man sent off and Zibbi was having a complete shitemare as usual. I was at the 4-1 with an uncle who'd been at 0-7 and vividly recall him saying "this is it" when Elliott made it 4. We really should have done it. The 3-1 in March 1991 was the one that really got away, for me. It's Hibs' best result in a derby in my lifetime. Lucky b@5£@/d's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naisys Tackle Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 5 minutes ago, martoon said: I was at the 4-1 with an uncle who'd been at 0-7 and vividly recall him saying "this is it" when Elliott made it 4. We really should have done it. The 3-1 in March 1991 was the one that really got away, for me. It's Hibs' best result in a derby in my lifetime. Lucky b@5£@/d's. Yeah it genuinely felt that in the ground at the time mate. Everything was falling into place, then it went flat man. 1991 was before my time, can remember watching us destroy them at Easter Road around that time on the highlights (Scotsport when they invaded the pitch and that) that's when I was just getting into going to games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
queensferryjambo Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 29 minutes ago, martoon said: I was at the 4-1 with an uncle who'd been at 0-7 and vividly recall him saying "this is it" when Elliott made it 4. We really should have done it. The 3-1 in March 1991 was the one that really got away, for me. It's Hibs' best result in a derby in my lifetime. Lucky b@5£@/d's. 3-1 in 1991 was a tremendous game. Andy Goram was the difference. The save early on from Bannon and 2 volleys late on from Crabbe I still don't know how Goram saved them. Shame it was never televised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theshed Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 2 hours ago, queensferryjambo said: 3-1 in 1991 was a tremendous game. Andy Goram was the difference. The save early on from Bannon and 2 volleys late on from Crabbe I still don't know how Goram saved them. Shame it was never televised. I remember Gorman saved then from a thrashing but you’ve got some memory on you that you can mind the players who had the shots on goal, unbelievable really Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1971fozzy Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 11 hours ago, Robbies Tackle said: Friday nights are much better than Sundays. Would have thought a lot more supporters will be there too. shafted their season ticket holders - again - more like. they did this last season too. Not sure I’d be a happy clapper if we did it but it’s different there as they have thousands of unsold seats I suppose whereas we have sold out and have a season ticket waiting list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clerry Jambo Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 10 hours ago, Robbies Tackle said: Seems a good way of attracting supporters for a shanner of a game. Correct perfect game for them to fill a few more green seats with cheap prices than a normal Saturday and full pricing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martoon Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 4 hours ago, theshed said: I remember Gorman saved then from a thrashing but you’ve got some memory on you that you can mind the players who had the shots on goal, unbelievable really Goram's thwarting of Scott Crabbe was a standout that day. Any other goalie and Scott would have scored 2, maybe, 3 in the last 20 minutes or so. The first thing we saw after coming through the McLeod Street turnstiles was a John Colquhoun effort hitting the bar up at the Gorgie Road end. The 1st minute of the game, I believe. It was farcical that it was 0-0 at half time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martoon Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 7 hours ago, Robbies Tackle said: Yeah it genuinely felt that in the ground at the time mate. Everything was falling into place, then it went flat man. 1991 was before my time, can remember watching us destroy them at Easter Road around that time on the highlights (Scotsport when they invaded the pitch and that) that's when I was just getting into going to games. 1990/91 was a great season for us in the derbies. 0-3 Hearts at ER, as you say, 1-1 at Tynecastle, 1-4 Hearts in the New Year game, then Hearts 3-1. We scored 11 goals vs. Hibs that season but it could have been double that number. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAndy Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 5 minutes ago, martoon said: Goram's thwarting of Scott Crabbe was a standout that day. Any other goalie and Scott would have scored 2, maybe, 3 in the last 20 minutes or so. The first thing we saw after coming through the McLeod Street turnstiles was a John Colquhoun effort hitting the bar up at the Gorgie Road end. The 1st minute of the game, I believe. It was farcical that it was 0-0 at half time. That game could have been our 7 or more such was our dominance. The fact it was only 3 was down to probably the best goalkeeping performance I have ever seen. Contrast that with the 0-7 game and take a look back at some of the goals Garland let in. Seriously bad goalkeeping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martoon Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 7 hours ago, queensferryjambo said: 3-1 in 1991 was a tremendous game. Andy Goram was the difference. The save early on from Bannon and 2 volleys late on from Crabbe I still don't know how Goram saved them. Shame it was never televised. I'd like to see the stats, too. It was like shooting practice. 25 attempts on goal, 15 on target would be my guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martoon Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, TexasAndy said: That game could have been our 7 or more such was our dominance. The fact it was only 3 was down to probably the best goalkeeping performance I have ever seen. Contrast that with the 0-7 game and take a look back at some of the goals Garland let in. Seriously bad goalkeeping. It really should have been Hearts 10 that day. It was an astonishing display of goalkeeping by Andy. Edited September 13, 2022 by martoon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudy T Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 55 minutes ago, Clerry Jambo said: Correct perfect game for them to fill a few more green seats with cheap prices than a normal Saturday and full pricing. I wonder what the break even point is on this initiative, how many more supporters do they need for this to be worth while. I can only imagine it’s more than double the walk ups they’d get on the Saturday. I’m sure the last time they did this they lost and clearly it’s not attracted a huge amount of new regular fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigO Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 16 hours ago, Rudolf said: https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/football/hibs-vs-st-johnstone-lands-new-date-with-ticket-costs-slashed-as-part-of-trial-for-new-initiative/ar-AA11JEeM Ach not going to slag Hibs for this one. Bit of a slap in the pus for season ticket holders but that's actually only true if the overall cost of tickets across all 19 home games is less than a seaso I'd say. Scottish clubs DO need to try new things to attract more fans in to the ground. The cheap tickets is something, but putting the game on on a Friday night maybe just maybe opens up more of a post-work drinks then the fitba type crowd and maybe just maybe that's ok. Won't have a go at a Scottish club for trying to get more fans in the stadium (we simply don't have to do it, tee hee!) And besides, there are plenty more things to slag Hibs about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionDJambo Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 I was at Tynecastle on 1st January 1973 and at Hampden, both in 2012 and 2006, for the matches against Hibs. I am extremely satisfied that the scales of triumpant achievement are weighed heavily in our favour. Hibs got 2 league points for a game that not that many people saw on television. We ended up with 2 Scottish Cups as a reward for our victories, watched live on television by viewers from all over the UK and beyond. There is no comparison. They are merely clutching a comfort blanket from a game played years before most of them were born. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Findlay Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 1 hour ago, SectionDJambo said: I was at Tynecastle on 1st January 1973 and at Hampden, both in 2012 and 2006, for the matches against Hibs. I am extremely satisfied that the scales of triumpant achievement are weighed heavily in our favour. Hibs got 2 league points for a game that not that many people saw on television. We ended up with 2 Scottish Cups as a reward for our victories, watched live on television by viewers from all over the UK and beyond. There is no comparison. They are merely clutching a comfort blanket from a game played years before most of them were born. Totally correct. I attended all those games too. I was 9 in 73, wasn't 10 until the April, I was 49 in 2012. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fort Vallance Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 11 hours ago, queensferryjambo said: 3-1 in 1991 was a tremendous game. Andy Goram was the difference. The save early on from Bannon and 2 volleys late on from Crabbe I still don't know how Goram saved them. Shame it was never televised. And Crabbo never got to score against them in a derby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoda Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 6 hours ago, 1971fozzy said: shafted their season ticket holders - again - more like. they did this last season too. Not sure I’d be a happy clapper if we did it but it’s different there as they have thousands of unsold seats I suppose whereas we have sold out and have a season ticket waiting list. Don't know why any H1b5 fan buys a season ticket. There are always plenty of empty seats and you can always get a ticket for games against us, without much trouble. Maybe even pick up free tickets from the many thousands they give away for most games. When the mid season collapse happens you can stop attending and save your cash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey J J Jr Shabadoo Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 5 hours ago, Fort Vallance said: And Crabbo never got to score against them in a derby. Although, he scored a peach in goram's hun debut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naisys Tackle Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 3 hours ago, Yoda said: Don't know why any H1b5 fan buys a season ticket. There are always plenty of empty seats and you can always get a ticket for games against us, without much trouble. Maybe even pick up free tickets from the many thousands they give away for most games. When the mid season collapse happens you can stop attending and save your cash. You could say the same for any team outside the old firm apart from us very recently? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
queensferryjambo Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 12 hours ago, martoon said: It really should have been Hearts 10 that day. It was an astonishing display of goalkeeping by Andy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionDJambo Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 3 hours ago, Joey J J Jr Shabadoo said: Although, he scored a peach in goram's hun debut. I remember it well. There was a flash of lightning as the ball hit the net. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martoon Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 4 hours ago, queensferryjambo said: Terrific find, bud. Reassuring, too, that my memory of JC almost scoring in the first minute is accurate. I posted it earlier in the thread but that 3-1 defeat was one of Hibs' finest derby results. Incredible luck for them that they had Andy Goram that day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Percival King Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 8 hours ago, martoon said: Terrific find, bud. Reassuring, too, that my memory of JC almost scoring in the first minute is accurate. I posted it earlier in the thread but that 3-1 defeat was one of Hibs' finest derby results. Incredible luck for them that they had Andy Goram that day. Must have been very frustrating for the Docksiders that after having Alan Rough then Goram as their keepers for the best part of a decade that they then had a procession of rotten keepers. Their frustration was our amusement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martoon Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 44 minutes ago, Percival King said: Must have been very frustrating for the Docksiders that after having Alan Rough then Goram as their keepers for the best part of a decade that they then had a procession of rotten keepers. Their frustration was our amusement. And the two of them did very poorly in derbies. Rough 0 wins in 17, Goram 3 wins in 15. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edramone Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 13 minutes ago, martoon said: And the two of them did very poorly in derbies. Rough 0 wins in 17, Goram 3 wins in 15. Superb stats. I thought they would have done better than that so nice to know they didn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannibal Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 33 minutes ago, martoon said: And the two of them did very poorly in derbies. Rough 0 wins in 17, Goram 3 wins in 15. I remember meeting Robbo, Colin Cameron and Alan Rough at a Scotland quiz night several years ago, asked for a photo and Robbo says to Rough, come on pal, this lad wants a photo with 3 Hearts legends, Rough looked confused until Robbo said 'well you never won a derby, that makes you a legend in my book' !!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debut 4 Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 10 hours ago, martoon said: Terrific find, bud. Reassuring, too, that my memory of JC almost scoring in the first minute is accurate. I posted it earlier in the thread but that 3-1 defeat was one of Hibs' finest derby results. Incredible luck for them that they had Andy Goram that day. Aye, nice article to see again. Wee mistake in it though. 9 undefeated, not 9 wins in a row. 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Percival King Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 1 hour ago, martoon said: And the two of them did very poorly in derbies. Rough 0 wins in 17, Goram 3 wins in 15. Gosh! Suppose our two long undefeated streaks were around their time but those are some statistics. Wonder if there's a Colgan or Gottskalksen or Makalamby or whoever out there that has a better derby record than those internationalists (though Rough's is a very low bar). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martoon Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 1 hour ago, allyjambo said: I remember meeting Robbo, Colin Cameron and Alan Rough at a Scotland quiz night several years ago, asked for a photo and Robbo says to Rough, come on pal, this lad wants a photo with 3 Hearts legends, Rough looked confused until Robbo said 'well you never won a derby, that makes you a legend in my book' !!!! 😃 Love it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martoon Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 1 hour ago, edramone said: Superb stats. I thought they would have done better than that so nice to know they didn't. Goram's derby record is pretty decent... Compared to Rough's. 😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martoon Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 1 hour ago, Debut 4 said: Aye, nice article to see again. Wee mistake in it though. 9 undefeated, not 9 wins in a row. 🙂 Aye, never been done in the derby. 7 succesive wins is the record. Set by Hearts around WWI. We also had a 6 win stretch around the same time. We've had a couple of 5's, quite a few 4's and countless 3's. Hibs' best is 3 in-a-row. A run of league games 100 years ago and 3 Cup ties in the 1880's. 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martoon Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 53 minutes ago, Percival King said: Gosh! Suppose our two long undefeated streaks were around their time but those are some statistics. Wonder if there's a Colgan or Gottskalksen or Makalamby or whoever out there that has a better derby record than those internationalists (though Rough's is a very low bar). Rough's stated ambition in the book, Hibernian Greats (1987), was "to be in the winning team in an Edinburgh derby". He only played one more and blew any chance himself by running straight past JC and the ball, who set up Robbo for the only goal. August '87 at Tynecastle. The final game of 17 without defeat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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