Dirty Deeds Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 27 minutes ago, Malinga the Swinga said: Apparently all lies. The only true expert is a dafty on jkb who has informed us all that Putin is a democrat and Russian economy is booming. Now who do we believe? The ignore function saves me from such nonsense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libertarian Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 7 hours ago, Hansel said: A country has been invaded and occupied for the last 2 years by a hostile, much larger, neighbour; turning the country into a battleground. Seems like the ideal time for a Presidential election. Why hasn't this happened? Mad Zelensky oot! Are you talking about the US occupation of the oil producing region of Syria? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libertarian Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 Boris Johnson came to Ukraine in 2022 and urged Zelensky to fight and not to sign any agreements with Russia. Lindsey Graham just visited Ukraine and urged Ukraine to quickly pass the mobilization bill to send more men to war. This is what happens when you become a pawn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffros Furios Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 13 minutes ago, Libertarian said: Boris Johnson came to Ukraine in 2022 and urged Zelensky to fight and not to sign any agreements with Russia. Lindsey Graham just visited Ukraine and urged Ukraine to quickly pass the mobilization bill to send more men to war. This is what happens when you become a pawn. 400k dead and injured Russians...this is what happens when you invade other countries . And who gives a **** what Lindsay Graham has to say .. 2 years in and you're still a brainwashed fool . At least you've not quoted McGregor or your good mate Scott Ritter . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
periodictabledancer Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 1 hour ago, Libertarian said: Boris Johnson came to Ukraine in 2022 and urged Zelensky to fight and not to sign any agreements with Russia. Lindsey Graham just visited Ukraine and urged Ukraine to quickly pass the mobilization bill to send more men to war. This is what happens when you become a pawn. Johnsons party and government prostituted themselves for years with their "Conservative Friends of Russia", all bought and paid for by the Russians when times were good. BJ and the rest of them can get in the sea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konrad von Carstein Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 9 hours ago, Libertarian said: Boris Johnson came to Ukraine in 2022 and urged Zelensky to fight and not to sign any agreements with Russia. Lindsey Graham just visited Ukraine and urged Ukraine to quickly pass the mobilization bill to send more men to war. This is what happens when you become a pawn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sawdust Caesar Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawnrazor Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 4 minutes ago, Sawdust Caesar said: But I read on here that Russia is thriving 🤷 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 I can certainly confirm that South Thailand is currently rammed with Russian holidaying families -feckin thousands of them - you certainly wouldn't know they are at war Just the usual sullen guys and their sullen women with Daffy Duck lips - the plastic surgery economy there at least must be booming Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 Oh aye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim_Duncan Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 1 hour ago, manaliveits105 said: I can certainly confirm that South Thailand is currently rammed with Russian holidaying families -feckin thousands of them - you certainly wouldn't know they are at war Just the usual sullen guys and their sullen women with Daffy Duck lips - the plastic surgery economy there at least must be booming I had my honeymoon in SE Asia. Hotel was full of Russkis. Your description of them is spot on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 2 hours ago, Jim_Duncan said: I had my honeymoon in SE Asia. Hotel was full of Russkis. Your description of them is spot on. Hope they never skipped the all inclusive line! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim_Duncan Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 33 minutes ago, Jeff said: Hope they never skipped the all inclusive line! Only scaffs go all-inclusive, Jeff. We were out in local restaurants and exploring local culture when we weren't at it like rabbits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyRightPeg Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 3 hours ago, Jim_Duncan said: I had my honeymoon in SE Asia. Hotel was full of Russkis. Your description of them is spot on. Cyprus was a hot bed for them last time I went too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 Russia managed to hit a hydroelectric dam overnight, causing severe damage to the engine house and turbine hall of the power plant. Dam itself is un-breached. Funny how they can be precise with their missiles and bombs when they want to be, eh? Just not when firing at major civilian population centres..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henrysmithsgloves Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 1 hour ago, Cade said: Russia managed to hit a hydroelectric dam overnight, causing severe damage to the engine house and turbine hall of the power plant. Dam itself is un-breached. Funny how they can be precise with their missiles and bombs when they want to be, eh? Just not when firing at major civilian population centres..... Maybe aiming for the dam itself,glad they never hit it, we've all seen the carnage with the last dam🤬🤬 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 1 hour ago, henrysmithsgloves said: Maybe aiming for the dam itself,glad they never hit it, we've all seen the carnage with the last dam🤬🤬 Hitler hit that dam in 1941 killing 100,000 people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 (edited) Terrorist attack in Moscow. No indication if Ukraine related. There was a warning of such an attack a couple of weeks ago. Edited March 22 by Footballfirst Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 This was the alert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 Let the speculation begin! Chechens? Ukrainian special forces? (highly unlikely) Wagner? False flag to excuse a wider mobilisation and conscription? Something else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Class of 75 Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 20 minutes ago, Cade said: Let the speculation begin! Chechens? Ukrainian special forces? (highly unlikely) Wagner? False flag to excuse a wider mobilisation and conscription? Something else? Alot of comments online saying false flag. I really wouldn't put it past them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 Never good to see innocent civilians just doing their thing being murdered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Des Lynam Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 Putin and his FSB pals have history in killing ordinary Russians. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loveofthegame Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 6 minutes ago, Des Lynam said: Putin and his FSB pals have history in killing ordinary Russians. They've been sending 100's of '000s of their own citizens to their deaths over a war they didn't need to fight for the last two years. They have no cares for anyone and that includes their own people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Des Lynam Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 Just now, loveofthegame said: They've been sending 100's of '000s of their own citizens to their deaths over a war they didn't need to fight for the last two years. They have no cares for anyone and that includes their own people. In the prelude to an invasion of Chechnya there was several bombings of apartments in Russia. The police actually caught FSB officers trying to plant devices at an apartment block in Ryazan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 37 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: Never good to see innocent civilians just doing their thing being murdered. 40 dead and 100 injured according to the latest reports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranston Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 38 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: Never good to see innocent civilians just doing their thing being murdered. Definitely. Worrying times indeed. Can't see this ending peacefully anytime soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 27 minutes ago, Footballfirst said: 40 dead and 100 injured according to the latest reports. There are videos but not going to post them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 22 minutes ago, Cranston said: Definitely. Worrying times indeed. Can't see this ending peacefully anytime soon. It's been generally okay in Russia last 10 years or so. Pretty safe. Until we know who is responsible and their motives hard to explain or understand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFK-1 Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 I hope it's Russians. Though if it were they might try to cover that up, claim it's Ukrainians or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libertarian Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 1 hour ago, Class of 75 said: Alot of comments online saying false flag. I really wouldn't put it past them. So the excuses begin. I don't know who has carried out this atrocity in Moscow but anyone with even the slightest knowledge of Ukrainian politics knows that Ukraine has a huge issue with thousands of extreme nationalists who worship Stepan Bandera who was an ally of Hitler and who was responsible for the murder of at least 100,000 Polish, Jewish and Russian civilians. These are the people who the West have made allies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranston Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 20 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: It's been generally okay in Russia last 10 years or so. Pretty safe. Until we know who is responsible and their motives hard to explain or understand. 👍 Probably lots of things going on in the background, that we the public will never learn the truth of. The only thing I know for sure, is that the world is very unpredictable at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Des Lynam Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 6 minutes ago, Libertarian said: So the excuses begin. I don't know who has carried out this atrocity in Moscow but anyone with even the slightest knowledge of Ukrainian politics knows that Ukraine has a huge issue with thousands of extreme nationalists who worship Stepan Bandera who was an ally of Hitler and who was responsible for the murder of at least 100,000 Polish, Jewish and Russian civilians. These are the people who the West have made allies. 100,000 You ever checked your hero Stalin's kill count? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libertarian Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 Just now, Des Lynam said: 100,000 You ever checked your hero Stalin's kill count? Stalin was a Georgian psycopath who murdered plenty of Russians as well as those of other nations. The Russian government doesn't name boulevards after Stalin. The last time I was in Kiev I was genuinely shocked to discover that one of the main streets in the city had been renamed Bandera Boulevard. This is the equivalent of a main street in Berlin being renamed Hitler Strasse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranston Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 15 minutes ago, Libertarian said: So the excuses begin. I don't know who has carried out this atrocity in Moscow but anyone with even the slightest knowledge of Ukrainian politics knows that Ukraine has a huge issue with thousands of extreme nationalists who worship Stepan Bandera who was an ally of Hitler and who was responsible for the murder of at least 100,000 Polish, Jewish and Russian civilians. These are the people who the West have made allies. The Polish are part of the West, and have been massively against Putin, and are in the process of ensuring strong resistance against him and his armies if they come anywhere near Poland. Do you honestly believe that Poland would side with Ukraine and remain part of the West if that was true? Genuine question, as you seem to know more than I do, but merely pointing out Poland's stance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranston Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 7 minutes ago, Libertarian said: Stalin was a Georgian psycopath who murdered plenty of Russians as well as those of other nations. The Russian government doesn't name boulevards after Stalin. The last time I was in Kiev I was genuinely shocked to discover that one of the main streets in the city had been renamed Bandera Boulevard. This is the equivalent of a main street in Berlin being renamed Hitler Strasse Hitler was Austrian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libertarian Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 Just now, Cranston said: Hitler was Austrian. And your point is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranston Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 Just now, Libertarian said: And your point is? Same as you pointed out that Stalin was Georgian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libertarian Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 6 minutes ago, Cranston said: The Polish are part of the West, and have been massively against Putin, and are in the process of ensuring strong resistance against him and his armies if they come anywhere near Poland. Do you honestly believe that Poland would side with Ukraine and remain part of the West if that was true? Genuine question, as you seem to know more than I do, but merely pointing out Poland's stance. The only people who have suggested that the Russians will attack Poland are NATO. There is absolutely no evidence that Russia intends to attack Poland. We should realise that if, God forbid, the conflict in Ukraine spreads to the west and a conflict between NATO and Russia then we are all dead, you, me our children and everyone we love. The West really is playing a deadly game with its proxy war in Ukraine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Des Lynam Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 10 minutes ago, Libertarian said: Stalin was a Georgian psycopath who murdered plenty of Russians as well as those of other nations. The Russian government doesn't name boulevards after Stalin. The last time I was in Kiev I was genuinely shocked to discover that one of the main streets in the city had been renamed Bandera Boulevard. This is the equivalent of a main street in Berlin being renamed Hitler Strasse When were you last in Kyiv? You do know that he's largely hated in Ukraine? The problem is a very small minority of...... hey nationalists champion him. How do you judge Putin? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawnrazor Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 2 minutes ago, Libertarian said: The only people who have suggested that the Russians will attack Poland are NATO. There is absolutely no evidence that Russia intends to attack Poland. We should realise that if, God forbid, the conflict in Ukraine spreads to the west and a conflict between NATO and Russia then we are all dead, you, me our children and everyone we love. The West really is playing a deadly game with its proxy war in Ukraine. Do you know more than NATO? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Des Lynam Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 Just now, Dawnrazor said: Do you know more than NATO? Of course he does Dawn he's a JKB expert. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranston Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 6 minutes ago, Libertarian said: And your point is? Equivalency. You pointed to the fact that non Russian communist dictator Stalin murdered lots of Russian citizens. I merely p Just now, Libertarian said: The only people who have suggested that the Russians will attack Poland are NATO. There is absolutely no evidence that Russia intends to attack Poland. We should realise that if, God forbid, the conflict in Ukraine spreads to the west and a conflict between NATO and Russia then we are all dead, you, me our children and everyone we love. The West really is playing a deadly game with its proxy war in Ukraine. You don't have to tell me that there is a distinct possibility, that the Russians could set off nuclear ground zero. They threaten the West daily that they could wipe us off the earth, and we destroy them along with us. There is no proxy war in Ukraine. Putin invaded a sovereign country, and should understand there are consequences for doing so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawnrazor Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 1 minute ago, Des Lynam said: Of course he does Dawn he's a JKB expert. Ah, aye, as always Des, you're correct, please excuse my momentarily lapse of common sense, I should obviously have remembered that JKB experts know more the the upper echelons of international organisations like NATO, please accept my humble apologies! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libertarian Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 3 minutes ago, Cranston said: Equivalency. You pointed to the fact that non Russian communist dictator Stalin murdered lots of Russian citizens. I merely p You don't have to tell me that there is a distinct possibility, that the Russians could set off nuclear ground zero. They threaten the West daily that they could wipe us off the earth, and we destroy them along with us. There is no proxy war in Ukraine. Putin invaded a sovereign country, and should understand there are consequences for doing so. Good point. Tell the same to the Americans and British Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranston Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 2 minutes ago, Libertarian said: Good point. Tell the same to the Americans and British Long time ago history doesn't legitimise Russia's invasion of Ukraine Libertarian. :Putin is killing and maiming ordinary citizens of Ukraine, how can you excuse that? The sooner Putin is stopped the better for everyone. He is on a rampage of killing and destruction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Des Lynam Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 2 minutes ago, Cranston said: Equivalency. You pointed to the fact that non Russian communist dictator Stalin murdered lots of Russian citizens. I merely p You don't have to tell me that there is a distinct possibility, that the Russians could set off nuclear ground zero. They threaten the West daily that they could wipe us off the earth, and we destroy them along with us. There is no proxy war in Ukraine. Putin invaded a sovereign country, and should understand there are consequences for doing so. Oh there is definitely a proxy war going on in Ukraine. Putin is trying to recreate the halcyon days of the USSR and miscalculated badly his armed forces ability to take Kyiv in a swift manner. I'll agree the expansion of Nato hasn't been helpful but a lot of it's been necessary considering the instability of Russian recent history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawnrazor Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 8 minutes ago, Libertarian said: Good point. Tell the same to the Americans and British What happened to you Libertarian, did you find your mail order Russian bride in a three-some with an American and British Soldier? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libertarian Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 1 hour ago, Des Lynam said: In the prelude to an invasion of Chechnya there was several bombings of apartments in Russia. The police actually caught FSB officers trying to plant devices at an apartment block in Ryazan. You really have swallowed the BBC and establishment script book Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim_Duncan Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 4 minutes ago, Libertarian said: You really have swallowed the BBC and establishment script book If the BBC and the 'establishment' are telling porkies, why do you believe the Russian narrative? Genuine question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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