DG_HMFC Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 2 hours ago, Baxfee said: This thread sums up the shite that are some fans just now. One minute he’s the messiah, next utter garbage. Some comments show how utter clueless many are Exactly. At the start of the season we were playing decent football, players playing well and we were winning games. Of course I'm not naive, without Gordon between the sticks we wouldn't be sitting 3rd. But we are, and players like Beni, Haring, Devlin, Cochrane and even Taylor Moore were all playing well...now they are all shite and not good enough I'll tell you who isn't good enough - the manager. He's taken us as far as he can and it's time to step aside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Sanchez Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 I think it's more how alien he looks at centre back. But it also looks like Souttar can't be arsed talking his defence through a game anymore. He's just plodding along until the end of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watt-Zeefuik Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 On 19/02/2022 at 17:34, Jambof3tornado said: Sibbick gets a free hit til after the summer, quite willing to give him time to settle. Dont think he was meant to be starting games just yet but injuries forced it. This Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveins Battalion Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 Whilst our recruitment seems to have improved from the 4 years deals and deals for old pros I hope we are not solely focussed on English young players who can’t quite make the top,or only the Australian market for foreign players. It has annoyed me for years,probably since JJ between 96-98 that we did not follow us the successes of Weir,Cameron,McCann,Hamilton,Quitongo etc and sign the best of the rest in Scottish Football,apart from ability you get heart and desire from these players who are looking to progress their career,guys like Taylor Moore and Ben Woodburn are not characters you want when your in a battle imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarrysRightFoot Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 Sometimes signings take time to settle. Pressley being an example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WASTREL Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, LarrysRightFoot said: Sometimes signings take time to settle. Pressley being an example. And Hartley being another Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazo Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 He looks out of position to me. I know he played there for Barnsley but doesn’t look comfortable at centre half, certainly not in this league. Not really room for him in defensive midfield so potentially a bad signing. Saying that I was delighted we signed him so **** knows what has went wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King prawn Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 29 minutes ago, Dazo said: He looks out of position to me. I know he played there for Barnsley but doesn’t look comfortable at centre half, certainly not in this league. Not really room for him in defensive midfield so potentially a bad signing. Saying that I was delighted we signed him so **** knows what has went wrong. He’ll be fine with someone solid next to him. Atkinson on one side and a Souttar out of position in the middle on the other isn’t going to help him. Sibbick definitely can’t play in the middle !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cut The Crap Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 Not too sure about the "bedding in" chat. He's played 100 top team games, half of those in the Championship in England, so he's no rookie. Doesn't look aggressive enough to play at the back currently. We might get away with that when Halkett is available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 2 hours ago, Dazo said: He looks out of position to me. I know he played there for Barnsley but doesn’t look comfortable at centre half, certainly not in this league. Not really room for him in defensive midfield so potentially a bad signing. Saying that I was delighted we signed him so **** knows what has went wrong. Just goes to show that what looks like a good signing on paper doesn't always work out as hoped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazo Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 4 minutes ago, JamboAl said: Just goes to show that what looks like a good signing on paper doesn't always work out as hoped. Absolutely, I’ve not given up any hope he can his form around but he does not look like a centre back at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo 1874 Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 Toby sibbick is best placed in midfield he can play defensive midfield or box to box,playing higher up the pitch allowing us to win the ball close to opponents goal. He can play defence cb and rb. But he's a player that has to be involved in the game, to get the very best out of him. Stendel saw this with his height and physicality which was on show against Rangers at home and St Johnstone away, we're he got an assist, sadly his time with us was short lived due to illness. Robbie's formation doesn't suit sibbick, it also doesn't suit McEneff. Playing 4231 or 433 would suit both. Allowing Beni, and sibbick to be the holders breaking up play, with mceneff breaking forward to support the wide players and lone attacker. A player that is a free agent just now is Lewis MacLeod he like mceneff would give us an attacking option going forward. The 343 system we play limits us as both Beni, Haring are more holding midfielders, This kills us going forward as no one is breaking from centre midfield, to get up and support the strikers. The wide players and striker often feel very isolated. And the wing backs don't look comfortable playing that system. The scientist has worked it out 😉. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DS98 Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 When Smith and Halkett are back, Sibbick will find himself on the bench for the rest of the season. Hopefully he uses that time wisely to bulk up and learn from Souttar/Halkett to be ready for next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 3 hours ago, LarrysRightFoot said: Sometimes signings take time to settle. Pressley being an example. Especially if you d and a defender. Zal (😢) is a good example as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 3 hours ago, LarrysRightFoot said: Sometimes signings take time to settle. Pressley being an example. Especially if you d and a defender. Zal (😢) is a good example as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 48 minutes ago, Bongo 1874 said: Toby sibbick is best placed in midfield he can play defensive midfield or box to box,playing higher up the pitch allowing us to win the ball close to opponents goal. He can play defence cb and rb. But he's a player that has to be involved in the game, to get the very best out of him. Stendel saw this with his height and physicality which was on show against Rangers at home and St Johnstone away, we're he got an assist, sadly his time with us was short lived due to illness. Robbie's formation doesn't suit sibbick, it also doesn't suit McEneff. Playing 4231 or 433 would suit both. Allowing Beni, and sibbick to be the holders breaking up play, with mceneff breaking forward to support the wide players and lone attacker. A player that is a free agent just now is Lewis MacLeod he like mceneff would give us an attacking option going forward. The 343 system we play limits us as both Beni, Haring are more holding midfielders, This kills us going forward as no one is breaking from centre midfield, to get up and support the strikers. The wide players and striker often feel very isolated. And the wing backs don't look comfortable playing that system. The scientist has worked it out 😉. Kind of agree but I'd argue Beni and Devlin do get forward, they just turn to shit. Devlin in particular has shown a desire to break the lines, he just needs to calm the **** down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batistuta87 Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Bongo 1874 said: Toby sibbick is best placed in midfield he can play defensive midfield or box to box,playing higher up the pitch allowing us to win the ball close to opponents goal. He can play defence cb and rb. But he's a player that has to be involved in the game, to get the very best out of him. Stendel saw this with his height and physicality which was on show against Rangers at home and St Johnstone away, we're he got an assist, sadly his time with us was short lived due to illness. Robbie's formation doesn't suit sibbick, it also doesn't suit McEneff. Playing 4231 or 433 would suit both. Allowing Beni, and sibbick to be the holders breaking up play, with mceneff breaking forward to support the wide players and lone attacker. A player that is a free agent just now is Lewis MacLeod he like mceneff would give us an attacking option going forward. The 343 system we play limits us as both Beni, Haring are more holding midfielders, This kills us going forward as no one is breaking from centre midfield, to get up and support the strikers. The wide players and striker often feel very isolated. And the wing backs don't look comfortable playing that system. The scientist has worked it out 😉. Was literally just listening to Open Goal and came on here to post about MacLeod. They were winding up Andy Halliday who wasn't there, telling him "get in at Hearts - their centre mids are murder" haha. He's good pals with Barrie McKay and said he knew Halliday briefly. Always looked like a good player but has been very unfortunate with injuries. I wonder if he might be a potential trialist over the summer. RE Sibbick: I feel like he's been signed as a utility man and won't always be playing CB - think he's just covering for Halkett just now and we'll go back to our strongest back three of Souttar Halkett and Kingsley the moment CH is back fit. I don't think Robbie intended for him to be a full time CB. Reckon we'll replace Souttar over the summer with a top defender and Sibbick will become a rotational DM/CM, and cover in defence. Edited February 23, 2022 by Batistuta87 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavydavy Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 1 hour ago, DS98 said: When Smith and Halkett are back, Sibbick will find himself on the bench for the rest of the season. Hopefully he uses that time wisely to bulk up and learn from Souttar/Halkett to be ready for next season. I think Sibbick showed in the couple of games he played for us during his first spell with us that he has ability although whether it is at CB or not only time will tell. He joined us just at a time when we hit a bad patch and have had a few injuries so not ideal. Once Halkett is back and we have hopefully signed at least one more decent CB then I think Sibbick has the football in him to play the role that Souttar has been playing. It could be though that we sign two more specialist CB's and that would allow Sibbick to play in a midfield role. Sibbick could also be an option at RWB instead on Taylor Moore with Smith in the back three. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 I've yet to see Sibbick carry the ball, go past a player, pass it more than 5 yards sideways or backwards or be aggressive in a tackle. And folk are saying he can play CM. clueless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Des Lynam Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 6 minutes ago, Cruyff said: I've yet to see Sibbick carry the ball, go past a player, pass it more than 5 yards sideways or backwards or be aggressive in a tackle. And folk are saying he can play CM. clueless. In fairness you led a one man crusade to tell us how Halkett would never make it at Hearts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 Just now, Des Lynam said: In fairness you led a one man crusade to tell us how Halkett would never make it at Hearts. In fairness, i was right. Halkett was dugshit, let's not pretend otherwise. But i think you will find I always said that he plays centrally in a back 3, low and behold he comes good after 2 seasons when he was played in his correct position. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo 1874 Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 Just now, Cruyff said: I've yet to see Sibbick carry the ball, go past a player, pass it more than 5 yards sideways or backwards or be aggressive in a tackle. And folk are saying he can play CM. clueless. You never watched the videos above i take it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo 1874 Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 (edited) Just now, Cruyff said: In fairness, i was right. Halkett was dugshit, let's not pretend otherwise. But i think you will find I always said that he plays centrally in a back 3, low and behold he comes good after 2 seasons when he was played in his correct position. 👍 Nope Halkett is not dugshit, Halkett is a solid centre half, this myth he has to play in a back three is dugshite. Maybe have a bit more patience and confidence in him? Edited February 23, 2022 by Bongo 1874 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 4 minutes ago, Bongo 1874 said: You never watched the videos above i take it? He's played there 9 times. Once for us v Rangers. 2 minutes ago, Bongo 1874 said: Nope Halkett is not dugshit, Halkett is a solid centre half, this myth he has to play in a back three is dugshite. Maybe have a bit more patience and confidence in him? Anyone trying to say Halkett wasn't dugshit in his first season is trying to rewrite history. He was ****ing terrible. A solid centerhalf in the middle of a back 3. That's where he played for seasons at Livi and has been at his best for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berra than you Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 1 minute ago, Cruyff said: He's played there 9 times. Once for us v Rangers. Anyone trying to say Halkett wasn't dugshit in his first season is trying to rewrite history. He was ****ing terrible. A solid centerhalf in the middle of a back 3. That's where he played for seasons at Livi and has been at his best for us. In fairness, his first season he was solid before his injury. Came back and was poor but came into a team struggling. Don't think he suited Stendel's style either. Granted he was also not brilliant last season, but few were. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watt-Zeefuik Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 7 hours ago, Leveins Battalion said: Whilst our recruitment seems to have improved from the 4 years deals and deals for old pros I hope we are not solely focussed on English young players who can’t quite make the top,or only the Australian market for foreign players. It has annoyed me for years,probably since JJ between 96-98 that we did not follow us the successes of Weir,Cameron,McCann,Hamilton,Quitongo etc and sign the best of the rest in Scottish Football,apart from ability you get heart and desire from these players who are looking to progress their career,guys like Taylor Moore and Ben Woodburn are not characters you want when your in a battle imo. I think we've started to again. Halkett is a great example, and in a way Kingsley came by way of England but started at Falkirk, similar to Boyce who came from Ireland then to County. 5 hours ago, Cut The Crap said: Not too sure about the "bedding in" chat. He's played 100 top team games, half of those in the Championship in England, so he's no rookie. Doesn't look aggressive enough to play at the back currently. We might get away with that when Halkett is available. A lot of those games he played as a CM IIRC. He's making the career move to CH I think and just needs some time there, ideally not starting games there with new signings and players out of position all around him due to injury. Remember how shite everyone thought Halkett was for a while . . . 2 hours ago, Bazzas right boot said: Kind of agree but I'd argue Beni and Devlin do get forward, they just turn to shit. Devlin in particular has shown a desire to break the lines, he just needs to calm the **** down. Yep. It's the kind of thing I hope he has time to work on over the summer. He has the desire, he just goes squirrelly when he hits the box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 Just now, Berra than you said: In fairness, his first season he was solid before his injury. Came back and was poor but came into a team struggling. Don't think he suited Stendel's style either. Granted he was also not brilliant last season, but few were. I didn’t think he was great from the get go tbh. Scored a few in the league cup early doors that maybe gave him the benefit of the doubt. First games under Levein that season he was all over the shop. He's been good this season because he's played in a position he excels at in the middle of a back 3. He doesn't have to cover out wide, he doesn’t have to worry what's behind him as he has cover, he plays zonally in the middle and his job is to attack the ball, make blocks and tackles. He's a proper old school stopper. I think Sibbick was brought in because he has the pace to cover in behind. He's good at reading situations but needs to be a bit more aggressive. That'll hopefully come. Still never a midfielder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo 1874 Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 (edited) Just now, Cruyff said: He's played there 9 times. Once for us v Rangers. Anyone trying to say Halkett wasn't dugshit in his first season is trying to rewrite history. He was ****ing terrible. A solid centerhalf in the middle of a back 3. That's where he played for seasons at Livi and has been at his best for us. Sure he played centre midfield against St Johnstone away too 3-3 game might be wrong. Halkett had bad games in championship, but since we have came back up, is definitely our most solid centerhalf. But that doesn't mean we are restricted to playing a back 3, I'm confident he can play other formations. Is the manager? Edited February 23, 2022 by Bongo 1874 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 12 minutes ago, Bongo 1874 said: Sure he played centre midfield against St Johnstone away too 3-3 game might be wrong. Halkett had bad games in championship, but since we have came back up, is definitely our most solid centerhalf. But that doesn't mean we are restricted to playing a back 3, I'm confident he can play other formations. Is the manager? Yet, the reason we signed Halkett was his performances for Livi in the middle of a back 3 and his best games for us have been in the same position. When he's played in a back 4 under Levein, Stendel and Robbie last season he hasn't looked comfortable. Coincidence? I think not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 On 20/02/2022 at 06:37, DG_HMFC said: Exactly. At the start of the season we were playing decent football, players playing well and we were winning games. Of course I'm not naive, without Gordon between the sticks we wouldn't be sitting 3rd. But we are, and players like Beni, Haring, Devlin, Cochrane and even Taylor Moore were all playing well...now they are all shite and not good enough I'll tell you who isn't good enough - the manager. He's taken us as far as he can and it's time to step aside. Spot on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 25 minutes ago, Bongo 1874 said: Sure he played centre midfield against St Johnstone away too 3-3 game might be wrong. Halkett had bad games in championship, but since we have came back up, is definitely our most solid centerhalf. But that doesn't mean we are restricted to playing a back 3, I'm confident he can play other formations. Is the manager? He was in midfield that day, for 45 minutes whilst unwell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berra than you Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 51 minutes ago, Cruyff said: I didn’t think he was great from the get go tbh. Scored a few in the league cup early doors that maybe gave him the benefit of the doubt. First games under Levein that season he was all over the shop. He's been good this season because he's played in a position he excels at in the middle of a back 3. He doesn't have to cover out wide, he doesn’t have to worry what's behind him as he has cover, he plays zonally in the middle and his job is to attack the ball, make blocks and tackles. He's a proper old school stopper. I think Sibbick was brought in because he has the pace to cover in behind. He's good at reading situations but needs to be a bit more aggressive. That'll hopefully come. Still never a midfielder. He's definitely been miles better this season thanks to the 3. Even when we have played a 4 he's involved in he's looked better, maybe a confidence thing. Agree on Sibbick. Don't see him in there. Not played many games there and Neilson has stated he was signed for RCB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Italian Lambretta Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 8 hours ago, LarrysRightFoot said: Sometimes signings take time to settle. Pressley being an example. Halkett also another Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo 1874 Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 (edited) Just now, Cruyff said: Yet, the reason we signed Halkett was his performances for Livi in the middle of a back 3 and his best games for us have been in the same position. When he's played in a back 4 under Levein, Stendel and Robbie last season he hasn't looked comfortable. Coincidence? I think not. That was under Levein, times have changed. Under Stendel it was hard to judge as everyone was getting used to a whole new system of playing, Stendels way of playing was completely different too Leveins. . Again Robbie's way of playing is completely different to Stendels, we went with a 4231 for a while, but I think personally Halkett didn't look good beside Popescu. With Kingsley or Souttar beside him in a two, I say a two as normally both LB and RB push On, with a midfielder dropping in making it a three. I reckon it would allow us to have that extra man going forward. And would make the team more dangerous, with playing 343 we have still faced an incredible amount of shots, thank god we have Gordon. Edited February 23, 2022 by Bongo 1874 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTT Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Bongo 1874 said: That was under Levein, times have changed. Under Stendel it was hard to judge as everyone was getting used to a whole new system of playing, Stendels way of playing was completely different too Leveins. . Again Robbie's way of playing is completely different to Stendels, we went with a 4231 for a while, but I think personally Halkett didn't look good beside Popescu. With Kingsley or Souttar beside him in a two, I say a two as normally both LB and RB push On, with a midfielder dropping in making it a three. I reckon it would allow us to have that extra man going forward. And would make the team more dangerous, with playing 343 we have still faced an incredible amount of shots, thank god we have Gordon. This last bit is pretty worrying actually. We have a lot more defensive stability on paper, or we should have anyway, 3 CBs, 2 wingbacks and 2 holding midfielders with absolutely zero appetite to get forward. With such a strong defensive unit you'd think very few shots get through to Gordon but it doesn't seem to be true at all. If Halkett really can't play in a back 2 we might have a pretty big issue on our hands because I'm not sure how well a 343 is actually working from an attacking point of view. Maybe with better forwards next season we might improve, but you were to pick the best 11, I suspect a 343 wouldn't work because of our poor our wide players actually are. a 4231 or 433 seem to make the most sense. Our link between defense and attack also seems to be non-existent which suggests we need to get 3 men in midfield rather than the current 2. Perhaps a 352/3511 might give us a better balance? I'd like to see McKay in a free role in the middle instead. Think his creativity and vision could do a lot there. My hope is that what we're seeing is a very early blueprint of Robbies vision, i.e we will bring in forwards who understand how to play the way he wants and can offer us exactly what we need. I do think Devlin and Beni need to really improve their forward balls because its becoming a real hinderance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, OTT said: This last bit is pretty worrying actually. We have a lot more defensive stability on paper, or we should have anyway, 3 CBs, 2 wingbacks and 2 holding midfielders with absolutely zero appetite to get forward. With such a strong defensive unit you'd think very few shots get through to Gordon but it doesn't seem to be true at all. If Halkett really can't play in a back 2 we might have a pretty big issue on our hands because I'm not sure how well a 343 is actually working from an attacking point of view. Maybe with better forwards next season we might improve, but you were to pick the best 11, I suspect a 343 wouldn't work because of our poor our wide players actually are. a 4231 or 433 seem to make the most sense. Our link between defense and attack also seems to be non-existent which suggests we need to get 3 men in midfield rather than the current 2. Perhaps a 352/3511 might give us a better balance? I'd like to see McKay in a free role in the middle instead. Think his creativity and vision could do a lot there. My hope is that what we're seeing is a very early blueprint of Robbies vision, i.e we will bring in forwards who understand how to play the way he wants and can offer us exactly what we need. I do think Devlin and Beni need to really improve their forward balls because its becoming a real hinderance. Agreed. I think it will be Beni plus new guy with Devlin tapping in and out. Beni does play decent passes and gets his head up at times. Devlin worries me as on the ball he's useless. However like many of our signings they are young and new to Scottish football. Maybe the Japanese lad up front As well. Edited February 23, 2022 by Bazzas right boot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watt-Zeefuik Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Bazzas right boot said: Agreed. I think it will be Beni plus new guy with Devlin tapping in and out. Beni does play decent passes and gets his head up at times. Devlin worries me as on the ball he's useless. However like many of our signings they are young and new to Scottish football. Maybe the Japanese lad up front As well. I think it's worth giving both Beni and Devlin a summer and next season to see how they improve. They both need to expand their games forward but they're both young enough to work on that. We'll need another CM though as I don't think Haring wants to come back. (Recently he's looked like he wishes he were already gone.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 Just now, Led Tasso said: I think it's worth giving both Beni and Devlin a summer and next season to see how they improve. They both need to expand their games forward but they're both young enough to work on that. We'll need another CM though as I don't think Haring wants to come back. (Recently he's looked like he wishes he were already gone.) I agree Beni has the raw ingredients. Devlin I am unsure off. I think we'll get another good midfielder in. If McEneff goes, maybe 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chimp Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 It's mad how all of a sudden a fair few are slowly writing Beni off, like he's maybe not that good anymore just because of a couple of under par performances. He's just back from injury and will need time to get back to his best again. The boy is class and that's a fact. Don't forget how good he was from the start of the season til his injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batistuta87 Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 27 minutes ago, Chimp said: It's mad how all of a sudden a fair few are slowly writing Beni off, like he's maybe not that good anymore just because of a couple of under par performances. He's just back from injury and will need time to get back to his best again. The boy is class and that's a fact. Don't forget how good he was from the start of the season til his injury. Typical JKB. Laughable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 5 hours ago, Chimp said: It's mad how all of a sudden a fair few are slowly writing Beni off, like he's maybe not that good anymore just because of a couple of under par performances. He's just back from injury and will need time to get back to his best again. The boy is class and that's a fact. Don't forget how good he was from the start of the season til his injury. Tbf he was probably overly rated a bit on here at the start and now he's being underrated Typical of jkb. The truth is somewhere in between. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chimp Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 20 minutes ago, Bazzas right boot said: Tbf he was probably overly rated a bit on here at the start and now he's being underrated Typical of jkb. The truth is somewhere in between. I don't really think he was overrated though, he was a stand out most games. Covered every blade of grass, won the ball back and never lost possession. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 1 minute ago, Chimp said: I don't really think he was overrated though, he was a stand out most games. Covered every blade of grass, won the ball back and never lost possession. Yeah he was good, but very unlikely to maintain that over a season and no where near the OF midfield options. Some had him as a £8m player and better than the of options after a few weeks. Crazy. Just like now, although he's not been as good he still looks like a proper midfielder. Imo he's put best option there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chimp Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 10 minutes ago, Bazzas right boot said: Yeah he was good, but very unlikely to maintain that over a season and no where near the OF midfield options. Some had him as a £8m player and better than the of options after a few weeks. Crazy. Just like now, although he's not been as good he still looks like a proper midfielder. Imo he's put best option there. Nobody is worth that kind of money after half a season, madness Yep we'll just need to see how he gets on between now and the end of the season, get a better idea then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarrysRightFoot Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 2 hours ago, Chimp said: Nobody is worth that kind of money after half a season, madness Yep we'll just need to see how he gets on between now and the end of the season, get a better idea then. He’s not proven how good he is yet. He needs to stay fit and get a under preseason under his belt yet before we see the best of him IMO. But he definitely has the potential to be as good as a fair few OF midfielders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WheatfieldWarrior Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 7 hours ago, LarrysRightFoot said: He’s not proven how good he is yet. He needs to stay fit and get a under preseason under his belt yet before we see the best of him IMO. But he definitely has the potential to be as good as a fair few OF midfielders. OF Midfielders have goals in their game. He doesn't even try to score goals. Devlin at least tries. McEneff has 2 from the 10 minutes he's been on the park this season. Halliday the ex OF player has 4 and he's been played out of position all season. Definitely has potential though. Hope he can kick on and add goals to his game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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weegie jambo Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 48 minutes ago, Newton51 said: Feel sorry for the lad, is he ever going to get a chance at Hearts? I'll be able to keep tabs on his progress as one of my sons in law plays with East Fife.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAlim Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, weegie jambo said: Feel sorry for the lad, is he ever going to get a chance at Hearts? I'll be able to keep tabs on his progress as one of my sons in law plays with East Fife.. He's just turned 17, plenty time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 10 minutes ago, weegie jambo said: Feel sorry for the lad, is he ever going to get a chance at Hearts? I'll be able to keep tabs on his progress as one of my sons in law plays with East Fife.. Considering how Robbie and others at the club talk about him I wouldn't worry. Robbie said last month that he is coming back from injury so they want to see how he does then send him out on loan, its always been the plan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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