Australis Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 Well done to Bonnyrigg Rose. And good riddance to Cowdenbeath. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
innerjambo Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 Bonnyrigg Rose 🌹 is the best news of the day!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoda Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 Well done Bonnyrigg. I wish I went I'd went to Cowdenbeath instead of Tynecastle today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoda Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 3 hours ago, Footballfirst said: The final EOS Premier League table. Penicuik Hibs'd it after leading for so long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyCant Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 On 13/05/2022 at 00:14, Footballfirst said: I was unaware of what had happened but having read the following, I can see why there was controversy. https://www.falkirkherald.co.uk/sport/football/irvine-launches-tirade-at-controversial-goal-decision-that-could-have-cost-his-side-the-title-3690442 Irvine launches tirade at controversial goal decision that 'could have cost his side the title' Bo’ness Athletic boss Willie Irvine admitted he was speechless after watching his team lose out on three points against title rivals Syngenta, due to the referee allowing the hosts to kick-off when his players were in the midst of celebrating going 2-1 up with five minutes to go. After veteran hitman Andy Rodgers put Gordon Wylde’s side ahead in the second-half, two strikes from 55-goal man Tiwi Daramola put the away side top of the league, and set to pick up three points at Ochilview. However, while the Bo’ness players celebrations spilled into their own half, referee Richard Macartney allowed the Dyes to kick-off, and they bombarded up the pitch scoring to level the match with just goalkeeper Fraser Currid to beat. Hamilton Accies loanee Lennon Pirrie slotted home to set up a chaotic ending with Craig Sneddon sent off for Bo’ness for his protestations. The anger was evident at the full-time whistle with the away sides directors and playing staff livid. Speaking to the Herald, an incensed Irvine said: “In my 40-odd years in the game I have never witnessed anything like that. "Imagine if a situation like that had happened at Celtic or Rangers and the referee did that, imagine the fallout. A riot would have occurred, people would have been murdered. “Half of our players were off the park and he (the referee) has got to identify that both sides were ready to restart the game. “Imagine if that happened every match, no-one would celebrate near the corner of the pitch because the other team would go up and score. “It just wouldn’t be done. It was embarrassing. “If we had won our last two games and won this one we would have been up more than likely. “For the referee to do that when we have dominated the match and could have been two or three up really was something I’ve never saw before. “Even bringing sportsmanship into it, honestly, if that was me in charge of a side and that happened I would say to my players to let a goal go in. “In my eyes it was unfair and it was something that you just don’t want to see in football. “Our team was celebrating a goal and we have just about lost out on a league title because of it. “I started football in and around 1982/83 and it is something I have never seen before and will not ever again, I am speechless.” I’ve a vague recollection of one of our players stepping back into the opposition half whilst we celebrated a goal in our own half. May have been Zaliukas. Could be talking utter jobbies though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
innerjambo Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 This was a long time coming. Bonnyrigg way too good for the Lowland League, and got their just rewards today. Won't be surprised if they end up winning Division 2 next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted May 14, 2022 Author Share Posted May 14, 2022 5 minutes ago, JimmyCant said: I’ve a vague recollection of one of our players stepping back into the opposition half whilst we celebrated a goal in our own half. May have been Zaliukas. Could be talking utter jobbies though The league table shows how important the referees call could be for the outcome. Had the referee not allowed Syngenta to restart the game and Bo'ness had held their lead until the end, then Bo'ness athletic would be top on 66 points and Syngenta third on 65 points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homme Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 10 minutes ago, Footballfirst said: The league table shows how important the referees call could be for the outcome. Had the referee not allowed Syngenta to restart the game and Bo'ness had held their lead until the end, then Bo'ness athletic would be top on 66 points and Syngenta third on 65 points. My team Armadale have dropped 5 points in their last 2 games and it has cost them promotion. Winning 0-2 v Syngenta and lost 3-2 and then today drew 2-2 with Whitburn after leading by 2. Bottlers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 4 Ever Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 29 minutes ago, Footballfirst said: The league table shows how important the referees call could be for the outcome. Had the referee not allowed Syngenta to restart the game and Bo'ness had held their lead until the end, then Bo'ness athletic would be top on 66 points and Syngenta third on 65 points. What’s the asterisk for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 18 minutes ago, Jambo 4 Ever said: What’s the asterisk for? They were deducted 3 points? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobboM Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 7 hours ago, Smithee said: They were deducted 3 points? ... and Armadale were awarded 3 points for a game where Fauldhouse played an ineligible player. A week where Syngenta and Boness drew and dropped points, Armadale picked up 3 points sitting inthe house, led 2-0 against Whitburn and blew it. Crowd of 605 at yesterday's Armadale v Whitburn match! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 11 hours ago, The White Cockade said: Delighted for the Rosey Posey! Been my second team since the early 70’s Saw them win the Junior cup in 66. There were some sights outside The Anvil when we drove past it last night about 10. 😄🌹🍻 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyRightPeg Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 9 hours ago, Yoda said: Penicuik Hibs'd it after leading for so long. Have to say it was actually Linlithgow. They well and truly chucked it. Won 16 or 17 games in a row and then went on a bizarre run and ended up 12 off the pace, crazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Cockade Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 2 hours ago, davemclaren said: Saw them win the Junior cup in 66. There were some sights outside The Anvil when we drove past it last night about 10. 😄🌹🍻 Saw them lose junior cup final to Cambuslang about 1971 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tasavallan Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 (edited) 12 hours ago, Homme said: My team Armadale have dropped 5 points in their last 2 games and it has cost them promotion. Winning 0-2 v Syngenta and lost 3-2 and then today drew 2-2 with Whitburn after leading by 2. Bottlers. Hibs-ed it good style. Should have beaten Dale, now ball is in Syngenta's court. BTW, I have hated Syngenta since U13 WLYFA. Works sponsored team. Edited May 15, 2022 by Tasavallan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locky Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 St Cuthberts will take a hiding off both Tranent and Darvel I'd imaging. Shame that the final game is down at Darvel as that could be a cracker. Could basically be a cup final. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted May 15, 2022 Author Share Posted May 15, 2022 Cowdenbeath taking stock and appealing for support. Message to Our Fans and Our Community Posted May 15, 2022 Firstly, we have already passed on our congratulations to Bonnyrigg Rose Athletic on their play-off win and have wished them well for the future. Secondly, and most importantly for Cowdenbeath FC, we thank you all for your most loyal support both yesterday, all season and indeed always. We are proud of our community and to be your football club. In our 142 year history there have been many ups and downs and of course yesterday represented one of the lows. Days of great joy and some of sadness are very much the lot of most football followers. Self-pity though won’t do us much good so today we begin anew – the first day of the rest of our lives as the saying goes. Changes and challenges lie ahead but with your ongoing help and commitment we will focus on ‘bouncebackability and the Blue Brazil’. We are indeed encouraged by the depth and warmth of support we see for the club on Social Media and from messages sent to us. We of course now immediately have to take a bit of stock and deal with a number of key matters. But as regards the bigger picture, we have already had meetings with a number of fans and other parties in recent weeks regarding being involved in playing a part and bringing fresh ideas and impetus to the club. That process is continuing. We are looking in some ways too to evoke the spirit of the famous Cowdenbeath Cooperative and the core part it played in our community. Elements of a cooperative approach involving the wide engagement of a range of people can help shape our future – an ethos whereby many can play an active part be it large or small at differing levels. MERIT is an acronym we are using – key aspects to refresh the club being centred on Money, Energy, Resources, Ideas, Time. If you can, please BE involved – that is the spirit of our community and our fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Marsh Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 14 minutes ago, Footballfirst said: Cowdenbeath taking stock and appealing for support. Message to Our Fans and Our Community Posted May 15, 2022 Firstly, we have already passed on our congratulations to Bonnyrigg Rose Athletic on their play-off win and have wished them well for the future. Secondly, and most importantly for Cowdenbeath FC, we thank you all for your most loyal support both yesterday, all season and indeed always. We are proud of our community and to be your football club. In our 142 year history there have been many ups and downs and of course yesterday represented one of the lows. Days of great joy and some of sadness are very much the lot of most football followers. Self-pity though won’t do us much good so today we begin anew – the first day of the rest of our lives as the saying goes. Changes and challenges lie ahead but with your ongoing help and commitment we will focus on ‘bouncebackability and the Blue Brazil’. We are indeed encouraged by the depth and warmth of support we see for the club on Social Media and from messages sent to us. We of course now immediately have to take a bit of stock and deal with a number of key matters. But as regards the bigger picture, we have already had meetings with a number of fans and other parties in recent weeks regarding being involved in playing a part and bringing fresh ideas and impetus to the club. That process is continuing. We are looking in some ways too to evoke the spirit of the famous Cowdenbeath Cooperative and the core part it played in our community. Elements of a cooperative approach involving the wide engagement of a range of people can help shape our future – an ethos whereby many can play an active part be it large or small at differing levels. MERIT is an acronym we are using – key aspects to refresh the club being centred on Money, Energy, Resources, Ideas, Time. If you can, please BE involved – that is the spirit of our community and our fans. Take your medicine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Fredrickson Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 19 minutes ago, Footballfirst said: Cowdenbeath taking stock and appealing for support. Message to Our Fans and Our Community Posted May 15, 2022 Firstly, we have already passed on our congratulations to Bonnyrigg Rose Athletic on their play-off win and have wished them well for the future. Secondly, and most importantly for Cowdenbeath FC, we thank you all for your most loyal support both yesterday, all season and indeed always. We are proud of our community and to be your football club. In our 142 year history there have been many ups and downs and of course yesterday represented one of the lows. Days of great joy and some of sadness are very much the lot of most football followers. Self-pity though won’t do us much good so today we begin anew – the first day of the rest of our lives as the saying goes. Changes and challenges lie ahead but with your ongoing help and commitment we will focus on ‘bouncebackability and the Blue Brazil’. We are indeed encouraged by the depth and warmth of support we see for the club on Social Media and from messages sent to us. We of course now immediately have to take a bit of stock and deal with a number of key matters. But as regards the bigger picture, we have already had meetings with a number of fans and other parties in recent weeks regarding being involved in playing a part and bringing fresh ideas and impetus to the club. That process is continuing. We are looking in some ways too to evoke the spirit of the famous Cowdenbeath Cooperative and the core part it played in our community. Elements of a cooperative approach involving the wide engagement of a range of people can help shape our future – an ethos whereby many can play an active part be it large or small at differing levels. MERIT is an acronym we are using – key aspects to refresh the club being centred on Money, Energy, Resources, Ideas, Time. If you can, please BE involved – that is the spirit of our community and our fans. Closing the barn door after the horse has bolted. No sympathy for them and delighted for Bonnyrigg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirkierobroy Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 Bonnyrigg and Kelty - there are now two teams in the league system whom I've seen knock Kirkie Rob Roy out of the Junor Cup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alec Eiffel Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 4 hours ago, Footballfirst said: Cowdenbeath taking stock and appealing for support. Message to Our Fans and Our Community Posted May 15, 2022 Firstly, we have already passed on our congratulations to Bonnyrigg Rose Athletic on their play-off win and have wished them well for the future. Secondly, and most importantly for Cowdenbeath FC, we thank you all for your most loyal support both yesterday, all season and indeed always. We are proud of our community and to be your football club. In our 142 year history there have been many ups and downs and of course yesterday represented one of the lows. Days of great joy and some of sadness are very much the lot of most football followers. Self-pity though won’t do us much good so today we begin anew – the first day of the rest of our lives as the saying goes. Changes and challenges lie ahead but with your ongoing help and commitment we will focus on ‘bouncebackability and the Blue Brazil’. We are indeed encouraged by the depth and warmth of support we see for the club on Social Media and from messages sent to us. We of course now immediately have to take a bit of stock and deal with a number of key matters. But as regards the bigger picture, we have already had meetings with a number of fans and other parties in recent weeks regarding being involved in playing a part and bringing fresh ideas and impetus to the club. That process is continuing. We are looking in some ways too to evoke the spirit of the famous Cowdenbeath Cooperative and the core part it played in our community. Elements of a cooperative approach involving the wide engagement of a range of people can help shape our future – an ethos whereby many can play an active part be it large or small at differing levels. MERIT is an acronym we are using – key aspects to refresh the club being centred on Money, Energy, Resources, Ideas, Time. If you can, please BE involved – that is the spirit of our community and our fans. Great to see them relegated to join the likes of East Stirlingshire and Berwick Rangers. Never to return. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobNox Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 On 14/05/2022 at 17:41, RobboM said: It's a guaranteed extra vote for Rangers B in the Lowland League though 😂 One less for Celtic B though 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weakened Offender Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 Cowdenbeath never really recovered from that 10-0 scudding, did they? 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Nookie Bear Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 22 hours ago, JimmyCant said: I’ve a vague recollection of one of our players stepping back into the opposition half whilst we celebrated a goal in our own half. May have been Zaliukas. Could be talking utter jobbies though Yeah it was Zal at Easter Road. That incident at the weekend was ridiculous. The seethe is that happened to us! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobNox Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 17 minutes ago, Weakened Offender said: Cowdenbeath never really recovered from that 10-0 scudding, did they? 😁 I was in hospitality that day, couldn't have gone better. Also got to bear in mind that we scored our 10 goals in a 55 minute period either side of half time. I suspect Robbie probably told the players that 10 was enough of a scudding because we seemed to ease up in the final 20 minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobNox Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 2 minutes ago, Nookie Bear said: Yeah it was Zal at Easter Road. That incident at the weekend was ridiculous. The seethe is that happened to us! It's fairly normal though for at least one player to stay in the opposing half after a goal to prevent the opponents from kicking off before the rest of the team are back in position after celebrating. There was a similar situation when we beat the huns at Ibrox in the opening game of the Championship season. They got a late equaliser then we scored the winner straight from kick-off. Fat Sally wasn't happy because they'd made a sub but the player wasn't in position when we kicked off. They should have left a player in our half to prevent the kick-off until the sub got into position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankblack Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 5 hours ago, Nookie Bear said: Yeah it was Zal at Easter Road. That incident at the weekend was ridiculous. The seethe is that happened to us! I mind Zal doing that in a home game against St Mirren. Everyone except him were in a heap in our half by the main stand. St Mirren players kept trying to push Zal into our half but he resisted until our other players got back into position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortyBeach Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 14 hours ago, Footballfirst said: Cowdenbeath taking stock and appealing for support. Message to Our Fans and Our Community Posted May 15, 2022 Firstly, we have already passed on our congratulations to Bonnyrigg Rose Athletic on their play-off win and have wished them well for the future. Secondly, and most importantly for Cowdenbeath FC, we thank you all for your most loyal support both yesterday, all season and indeed always. We are proud of our community and to be your football club. In our 142 year history there have been many ups and downs and of course yesterday represented one of the lows. Days of great joy and some of sadness are very much the lot of most football followers. Self-pity though won’t do us much good so today we begin anew – the first day of the rest of our lives as the saying goes. Changes and challenges lie ahead but with your ongoing help and commitment we will focus on ‘bouncebackability and the Blue Brazil’. We are indeed encouraged by the depth and warmth of support we see for the club on Social Media and from messages sent to us. We of course now immediately have to take a bit of stock and deal with a number of key matters. But as regards the bigger picture, we have already had meetings with a number of fans and other parties in recent weeks regarding being involved in playing a part and bringing fresh ideas and impetus to the club. That process is continuing. We are looking in some ways too to evoke the spirit of the famous Cowdenbeath Cooperative and the core part it played in our community. Elements of a cooperative approach involving the wide engagement of a range of people can help shape our future – an ethos whereby many can play an active part be it large or small at differing levels. MERIT is an acronym we are using – key aspects to refresh the club being centred on Money, Energy, Resources, Ideas, Time. If you can, please BE involved – that is the spirit of our community and our fans. It’s a bad day for Cowdenbeath FC and this statement is a good rallying call. Most Hearts fans will recall similar backs-to-the-wall situations and their own emotions when our club’s future was at stake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAndy Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 The pyramid system has brought a real freshness to the Scottish leagues. It's up to clubs like Brechin and Cowdenbeath to fight their way back up after years of playing for nothing with no risk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooks Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 15 hours ago, Footballfirst said: Cowdenbeath taking stock and appealing for support. Message to Our Fans and Our Community Posted May 15, 2022 Firstly, we have already passed on our congratulations to Bonnyrigg Rose Athletic on their play-off win and have wished them well for the future. Secondly, and most importantly for Cowdenbeath FC, we thank you all for your most loyal support both yesterday, all season and indeed always. We are proud of our community and to be your football club. In our 142 year history there have been many ups and downs and of course yesterday represented one of the lows. Days of great joy and some of sadness are very much the lot of most football followers. Self-pity though won’t do us much good so today we begin anew – the first day of the rest of our lives as the saying goes. Changes and challenges lie ahead but with your ongoing help and commitment we will focus on ‘bouncebackability and the Blue Brazil’. We are indeed encouraged by the depth and warmth of support we see for the club on Social Media and from messages sent to us. We of course now immediately have to take a bit of stock and deal with a number of key matters. But as regards the bigger picture, we have already had meetings with a number of fans and other parties in recent weeks regarding being involved in playing a part and bringing fresh ideas and impetus to the club. That process is continuing. We are looking in some ways too to evoke the spirit of the famous Cowdenbeath Cooperative and the core part it played in our community. Elements of a cooperative approach involving the wide engagement of a range of people can help shape our future – an ethos whereby many can play an active part be it large or small at differing levels. MERIT is an acronym we are using – key aspects to refresh the club being centred on Money, Energy, Resources, Ideas, Time. If you can, please BE involved – that is the spirit of our community and our fans. A good statement and perhaps they can use this as impetus to come back stronger and more engaged with their community ................... may be this will be the making of them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobboM Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 On 14/05/2022 at 18:25, RobboM said: Only place I've seen online says 21 May Tranent v St Cuthberts 25 May St Cuthberts v Darvel 28 May Darvel v Tranent Tough for Tranent playing on Cup Final day bound to reduce the home support and needing to travel to the West Champions As above EXCEPT Tranent home game moved to the Sunday 22 May, so they'll miss the cup coming home 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyRightPeg Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 1 hour ago, TexasAndy said: The pyramid system has brought a real freshness to the Scottish leagues. It's up to clubs like Brechin and Cowdenbeath to fight their way back up after years of playing for nothing with no risk. it has and it’s working which is the pleasing thing. It’s flushing all the shite out the leagues and getting genuine clubs in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 Saw an interview with a Bonnyrigg player. He said coming through the juniors was a big help and he expects them to keep going up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 10 hours ago, RobNox said: It's fairly normal though for at least one player to stay in the opposing half after a goal to prevent the opponents from kicking off before the rest of the team are back in position after celebrating. There was a similar situation when we beat the huns at Ibrox in the opening game of the Championship season. They got a late equaliser then we scored the winner straight from kick-off. Fat Sally wasn't happy because they'd made a sub but the player wasn't in position when we kicked off. They should have left a player in our half to prevent the kick-off until the sub got into position. I'm sure it is within the rules but considering the trouble it causes when a team doesn't return the ball after the opposition kicks the ball out for an injury something like this would cause a riot in a bigger game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobboM Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 1 hour ago, RustyRightPeg said: it has and it’s working which is the pleasing thing. It’s flushing all the shite out the leagues and getting genuine clubs in. It is BUT there is a huge bottleneck at Lowland League level. In terms of playing merit there are likely 5-6 clubs in the West of Scotland and 2-3 in the East of Scotland Leagues which would be amongst the strongest 16 teams at that level. The clubs currently in the Lowland League are the ones making decisions on admission of B teams and opening up relegation solely in the narrow short term interests and holding on till the inevitable relegation comes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 1 minute ago, RobboM said: It is BUT there is a huge bottleneck at Lowland League level. In terms of playing merit there are likely 5-6 clubs in the West of Scotland and 2-3 in the East of Scotland Leagues which would be amongst the strongest 16 teams at that level. The clubs currently in the Lowland League are the ones making decisions on admission of B teams and opening up relegation solely in the narrow short term interests and holding on till the inevitable relegation comes. Turkeys seldom vote for Xmas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobboM Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 1 minute ago, davemclaren said: Turkeys seldom vote for Xmas. True Dave but as Brechin, East Stirlingshire and Berwick Rangers in one direction and Whitehill, Hawick and Vale of Leithen will find in the other direction, they have created a situation almost impossible to get out of. No wonder Brechin fought, kicked and scratched against relegation. If the opportunity to come back up were a little more fluid it needn't be so painful and final as relegation is just now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyRightPeg Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 5 minutes ago, RobboM said: It is BUT there is a huge bottleneck at Lowland League level. In terms of playing merit there are likely 5-6 clubs in the West of Scotland and 2-3 in the East of Scotland Leagues which would be amongst the strongest 16 teams at that level. The clubs currently in the Lowland League are the ones making decisions on admission of B teams and opening up relegation solely in the narrow short term interests and holding on till the inevitable relegation comes. Fundamentally there’s issues with how it works logistically as proven last year when Brechin tried to bribe teams to let them in the LL. I don’t know how you resolve the issue if say Bonnyrigg get promoted and say Peterhead got relegated because there’s no way they could play lowland league. What it proves is clubs like Cove, Kelty etc can progress and there will be many more, Darvel for example who I expect in the coming years to get in and move up the leagues. The issue with the B teams could be resolved if they just did a B league logistically. The lack of reserve football kills young Scottish players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted May 16, 2022 Author Share Posted May 16, 2022 9 minutes ago, RobboM said: True Dave but as Brechin, East Stirlingshire and Berwick Rangers in one direction and Whitehill, Hawick and Vale of Leithen will find in the other direction, they have created a situation almost impossible to get out of. No wonder Brechin fought, kicked and scratched against relegation. If the opportunity to come back up were a little more fluid it needn't be so painful and final as relegation is just now. The English Football League and National League have demonstrated how fluidity between the leagues can work both up and down if you are minded to do it. Half the NL have played in the EFL this century. Similarly the EFL has seen many former Non League sides establish themselves at a higher level. Others have dropped into the NL and made their way back. A striking example is Luton. They were in the top tier in the season immediately before the EPL started in 1992/3, dropped down through the leagues and into the "Conference" in 2009, where they spent five seasons, before regaining their EFL status in 2014. This season they contested the playoffs to reach the Premier League, so almost going full circle over a period of 30 years.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortyBeach Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 3 hours ago, Sooks said: A good statement and perhaps they can use this as impetus to come back stronger and more engaged with their community ................... may be this will be the making of them It’s in their own hands, and there will be a lot of hard work ahead, but you never know. I wish them well and hope they succeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooks Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 1 minute ago, PortyBeach said: It’s in their own hands, and there will be a lot of hard work ahead, but you never know. I wish them well and hope they succeed. It is one of those funny things is it not because out of such a seemingly devastating blow can come a real rallying spirit that forces positive change in a way that just faffing about at the bottom of a closed league could never Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortyBeach Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 53 minutes ago, Sooks said: It is one of those funny things is it not because out of such a seemingly devastating blow can come a real rallying spirit that forces positive change in a way that just faffing about at the bottom of a closed league could never Good point. This might just be the catalyst for the local community to rediscover its identification with, and love for, their club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niemi’s gloves Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 1 hour ago, RustyRightPeg said: Fundamentally there’s issues with how it works logistically as proven last year when Brechin tried to bribe teams to let them in the LL. I don’t know how you resolve the issue if say Bonnyrigg get promoted and say Peterhead got relegated because there’s no way they could play lowland league. What it proves is clubs like Cove, Kelty etc can progress and there will be many more, Darvel for example who I expect in the coming years to get in and move up the leagues. The issue with the B teams could be resolved if they just did a B league logistically. The lack of reserve football kills young Scottish players. I don’t see any real problem that would be caused by Peterhead or Elgin being relegated: they would simply return to the Highland League, from where they joined the Scottish Leagues. The issue for Brechin was two-fold: firstly, they had no historic connection to the HL and didn’t see themselves as being in the Highlands; and secondly, they were accustomed to employing part-timers from the central belt which doesn’t work well in the HL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyRightPeg Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 10 minutes ago, Niemi’s gloves said: I don’t see any real problem that would be caused by Peterhead or Elgin being relegated: they would simply return to the Highland League, from where they joined the Scottish Leagues. The issue for Brechin was two-fold: firstly, they had no historic connection to the HL and didn’t see themselves as being in the Highlands; and secondly, they were accustomed to employing part-timers from the central belt which doesn’t work well in the HL. The point I mean is number wise in the leagues. If nobody gets promoted from the Highland league but they then have to accept another team into it, it knocks the balance off in terms of numbers as there would be one less team in the LL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted May 16, 2022 Author Share Posted May 16, 2022 22 minutes ago, RustyRightPeg said: The point I mean is number wise in the leagues. If nobody gets promoted from the Highland league but they then have to accept another team into it, it knocks the balance off in terms of numbers as there would be one less team in the LL. Numbers wise there is the same situation in the LL. Had Fraserburgh won the SPFL playoff with Cowdenbeath being relegated, the LL rules on relegation would have resulted in Gretna 2008 being relegated along with Vale of Leithen, in order to keep the LL numbers at 16 (excl B teams). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyRightPeg Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 8 minutes ago, Footballfirst said: Numbers wise there is the same situation in the LL. Had Fraserburgh won the SPFL playoff with Cowdenbeath being relegated, the LL rules on relegation would have resulted in Gretna 2008 being relegated along with Vale of Leithen, in order to keep the LL numbers at 16 (excl B teams). wasnt aware that’s how it worked 👍🏽 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobboM Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 Lowland League 3-way play off Tranent 7-0 St Cuthbert's Wanderers It's going to be hard for St Cuthbert's to bounce back from that 🙂 Still to come 25 May St Cuthbert's Wanderers v Darvel 28 May Darvel v Tranent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tasavallan Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 Played today Lowland League Play-off #1 Tranent Juniors 7-0 St Cuthbert Wanderers Challenge Cup Final Bonnyrigg Rose 1-3 Auchinleck Talbot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted May 22, 2022 Author Share Posted May 22, 2022 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Tasavallan said: Played today Lowland League Play-off #1 Tranent Juniors 7-0 St Cuthbert Wanderers Challenge Cup Final Bonnyrigg Rose 1-3 Auchinleck Talbot I was at the Tranent game today. The gap between the sides was as big as the score suggests. Darvel was represented at the game by a couple of players and some coaching staff, but I'm not sure what they would have taken from what was a mismatch. The SFA/SOSFL need to look at the league dropping to tier 7 and becoming a feeder for the WOSFL. The Bonnyrigg result wasn't a surprise either. They made six changes to their starting line up against Cowdenbeath last week. It will probably serve as a reminder that they need to strengthen their squad before embarking on their League 2 campaign. Edited May 22, 2022 by Footballfirst Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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