jamboinglasgow Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 23 minutes ago, One five said: Yeah Gordon will finish his career with us I should imagine 👍 Pretty much, though interested to see what he does after that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 3 minutes ago, BackOfTheNet said: Can be a bit of a Fox in the box. Certainly not a player that gives up or lacks belief. But he’s a bit out there, to tell the truth… 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 1 hour ago, DS98 said: You’ve just described Walker there. He's a creative attacking midfielder, I don't want him to do much tackling or run about like a *****. I want him or any attacking midfielder to score and create first and and foremost. When nnot in possession I want him to work with the team and help win back possession and then be effective with it not run around aimlessly or go in for daft challenges with big meat heads and kick the baw away. Only in Scotland Tbh. Effort and running aboot like a prick is held in regard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batistuta87 Posted June 17, 2021 Author Share Posted June 17, 2021 30 minutes ago, rudi must stay said: New name linked - Michael Mulder. Centre back / defensive midfielder for Ado De Haag Assuming he'd be backup. 19 y/o, apparently has a bit of potential. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackOfTheNet Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 5 minutes ago, Batistuta87 said: Assuming he'd be backup. 19 y/o, apparently has a bit of potential. Depends on how high ADO hold him in regard, if they think he has a future he’ll be brought in on loan which would make you think he’s not just back up. If he’s brought in permanent then ADO are letting him go with a year left on his contract, so not sure what to read into that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Batistuta87 said: Assuming he'd be backup. 19 y/o, apparently has a bit of potential. You would think so, though I have him as 20 y/o (he has a brother in the same team as him who is 19 y/o.) He has another year on his contract which he signed in February which also includes a 1 year option. The Den Haag website with the article on him describes him as a centre back. Has been in the matchday squad for the first team but never played. Is an Israeli youth international. As it came from Instagram I think its just someone throwing a random name around to get attention. Edited June 17, 2021 by jamboinglasgow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackOfTheNet Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, jamboinglasgow said: You would think so, though I have him as 20 y/o (he has a brother in the same team as him who is 19 y/o.) He has another year on his contract which he signed in February which also includes a 1 year option. The Den Haag website with the article on him describes him as a centre back. Has been in the matchday squad for the first team but never played. Is an Israeli youth international. As it came from Instagram I think its just someone throwing a random name around to get attention. Random name or not, here’s the obligatory (seemingly filmed on a Motorola 220)… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 21 minutes ago, Smith's right boot said: He's a creative attacking midfielder, I don't want him to do much tackling or run about like a *****. I want him or any attacking midfielder to score and create first and and foremost. When nnot in possession I want him to work with the team and help win back possession and then be effective with it not run around aimlessly or go in for daft challenges with big meat heads and kick the baw away. Only in Scotland Tbh. Effort and running aboot like a prick is held in regard. Wayne Rooney used to track back remorselessly. Modern football requires all skills, just at different levels for the position but you do need to be more rounded, tactically aware these days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr ewing Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 2 hours ago, Smith's right boot said: Folk that think walker is lazy are off their heeds. Guy tracks back and tackles all the time. In fact I'd like him to be further up and not track back as much. Walker being lazy is just jkb made up shite. Some folk on here just want 11 eejits running about like radges, forget about any ability. Just run about and tackle like a dick. Supersub. Can't remember having one before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 41 minutes ago, Sir Gio said: Wayne Rooney used to track back remorselessly. Modern football requires all skills, just at different levels for the position but you do need to be more rounded, tactically aware these days Walker tracks back, It is a myth he doesn't do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berra than you Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 1 minute ago, Smith's right boot said: Walker tracks back, It is a myth he doesn't do that. Got injured doing as much away to Motherwell 19/20 season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One five Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 1 hour ago, jamboinglasgow said: Pretty much, though interested to see what he does after that. Would be good if he stays on as a goalkeeper coach . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 16 minutes ago, Smith's right boot said: Walker tracks back, It is a myth he doesn't do that. Its not a myth. He has spells in games where he works very hard, in fact one of his injuries was because of an edge of the box shot stopping tackle, but a lot of the time the game passes him by, thats not to say he doesn't influence games, Rudi imo was similar, could do nowt for 87 minutes then pop up with the winner. On numerous occasions over the years I've seen walker signal to be subbed only to be left on, and I do think he has an issue which may not be physical, which makes him not put in the effort he can. Wont be a starter but bloody handy to have, and if he sorts himself out he could force his way into the starting 11. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTT Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 3 hours ago, Thomson1874 said: A couple of changes with Naismith out and Ginnelly confirmed. Goalkeepers - Craig Gordon - 2022 - Ross Stewart - 2023 - Harry Stone - 2023 Right Backs - Michael Smith - 2022 - Jamie Brandon - 2022 - Cammy Logan - 2023 Centre Backs - John Souttar- 2022 - Craig Halkett - 2022 - Mihai Popescu - 2022 Left Backs - Stephen Kingsley - 2022 - Andy Halliday - 2022 Centre Midfielders - Peter Haring - 2022 - Aaron McEneff - 2023 - Jamie Walker - 2022 - Loic Damour - 2023 - Scott McGill - 2022 - Chris Hamilton - 2022 - Connor Smith - 2022 Wide Midfielders - Gary Mackay-Steven - 2023 - Josh Ginnelly - 2023 - Jordan Roberts - 2022 Forwards - Liam Boyce - 2023 - Armand Gnanduillet - 2022 - Euan Henderson - 2022 Contract Expired - Colin Doyle - Olly Lee - Harry Cochrane - Craig Wighton - Elliott Frear - Andy Irving - Aidy White - Christophe Berra - Bobby Zlamal - Lewis Moore - Steven Naismith (Retired) Loan Expired - Gervane Kastaneer - Shay Logan We badly need to begin negotiations with Souttar NOW. If we leave it to the winter we will lose him. Need to get this done ASAP. He needs the game time this season and we’ll be up shit creek if we give him it without a contract extension agreed before hand. Right now, if he decides he’s not extending we can either cash in or freeze him out and bring in someone else. We’re caught short constantly on the management of our players contracts so we absolutely need to get this sorted before preseason is over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 32 minutes ago, Smith's right boot said: Walker tracks back, It is a myth he doesn't do that. Not the point. Its not only in Scottish football you are expected to get your hands dirty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnking123 Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 We will lose souttar before window shuts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crunchy frog Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 11 minutes ago, Jambof3tornado said: Its not a myth. He has spells in games where he works very hard, in fact one of his injuries was because of an edge of the box shot stopping tackle, but a lot of the time the game passes him by, thats not to say he doesn't influence games, Rudi imo was similar, could do nowt for 87 minutes then pop up with the winner. On numerous occasions over the years I've seen walker signal to be subbed only to be left on, and I do think he has an issue which may not be physical, which makes him not put in the effort he can. Wont be a starter but bloody handy to have, and if he sorts himself out he could force his way into the starting 11. I've heard you giving Walker a sherricking on occasion for him to turn around and do something outstanding, but point taken 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomson1874 Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 4 minutes ago, OTT said: We badly need to begin negotiations with Souttar NOW. If we leave it to the winter we will lose him. Need to get this done ASAP. He needs the game time this season and we’ll be up shit creek if we give him it without a contract extension agreed before hand. Right now, if he decides he’s not extending we can either cash in or freeze him out and bring in someone else. We’re caught short constantly on the management of our players contracts so we absolutely need to get this sorted before preseason is over. Absolutely agree. I'm hoping with Joe Savage at the club we might handle contracts a bit better leading to us getting maximum value for our best assets when they leave the club. This is something we've been so poor at over the last few years! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomson1874 Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, johnking123 said: We will lose souttar before window shuts That would be a shame - was really hoping we would see him back to his best form at Tynecastle before he left. Do you know which teams are interested? I hope we get a reasonable fee as he will be difficult to replace for sure! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One five Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 16 minutes ago, OTT said: We badly need to begin negotiations with Souttar NOW. If we leave it to the winter we will lose him. Need to get this done ASAP. He needs the game time this season and we’ll be up shit creek if we give him it without a contract extension agreed before hand. Right now, if he decides he’s not extending we can either cash in or freeze him out and bring in someone else. We’re caught short constantly on the management of our players contracts so we absolutely need to get this sorted before preseason is over. Definitely, 100% agreed 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarrysRightFoot Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 7 minutes ago, johnking123 said: We will lose souttar before window shuts I’d be surprised if he left at this point. He needs to prove he can play a full season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 1 minute ago, LarrysRightFoot said: I’d be surprised if he left at this point. He needs to prove he can play a full season. He is also quite loyal to Hearts, I think he feels he wants to reward us for sticking by him with injuries. I could see a contract extension happening though looking to sell him after a good season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron of ness Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 11 minutes ago, johnking123 said: We will lose souttar before window shuts Who's in for him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackOfTheNet Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 12 minutes ago, johnking123 said: We will lose souttar before window shuts That would certainly place the whelms in the negative Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 We won't lose Souttar in this window Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newton51 Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 14 minutes ago, johnking123 said: We will lose souttar before window shuts This is my worry too and we are left with halkett and popescu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarrysRightFoot Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 4 minutes ago, jamboinglasgow said: He is also quite loyal to Hearts, I think he feels he wants to reward us for sticking by him with injuries. I could see a contract extension happening though looking to sell him after a good season. Quite rightly he should feel loyalty to us. A good season or so and he should be back in Scotland squad and hopefully he can make us some money. I’d love to see him get a good move and prove himself on a bigger stage. It’s just not the time IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hungry hippo Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 3 minutes ago, jamboinglasgow said: He is also quite loyal to Hearts, I think he feels he wants to reward us for sticking by him with injuries. I could see a contract extension happening though looking to sell him after a good season. Seems most likely to me although if we got an offer that suited both parties then it is possible. Hope he stays though and I'm sure we're well aware of his contract situation and looking to extend if he wants to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamboscanbevicius Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 1 minute ago, Newton51 said: This is my worry too and we are left with halkett and popescu Jeez… would be favourites for relegation again if we had those 2 as our first choice CB pairing Really don’t see this happening Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambopilms Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 Nobody is going to pay decent money for someone who has played about a dozen games in two seasons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, jambopilms said: Nobody is going to pay decent money for someone who has played about a dozen games in two seasons Yip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One five Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 7 minutes ago, LarrysRightFoot said: I’d be surprised if he left at this point. He needs to prove he can play a full season. 4 minutes ago, jamboinglasgow said: He is also quite loyal to Hearts, I think he feels he wants to reward us for sticking by him with injuries. I could see a contract extension happening though looking to sell him after a good season. He won’t be going anywhere no team is going to take a chance after his injury, once he is playing regular the winter window would be a worry so we need to get the contract extended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hungry hippo Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 Just now, Jamboscanbevicius said: Jeez… would be favourites for relegation again if we had those 2 as our first choice CB pairing Really don’t see this happening We are already looking for a CB even with Souttar so there is no chance Popescu will be a first choice after our transfer business is complete. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iainmac Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 1 hour ago, jr ewing said: Supersub. Can't remember having one before. Geordie Fleming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Famous 1874 Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 Souttar more likely to sign a new contract than leave imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Rob Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, Famous 1874 said: Souttar more likely to sign a new contract than leave imo. Agreed. Anyone who signs Souttar will be taking a chance on his future fitness, and that includes us. However, we will have a much more accurate knowledge on which to base the decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo 1874 Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 12 hours ago, GavK1012 said: Playing devils advocate simply due to how much you appear to adore SN...(and I ain't a hater of his btw) You say 6 or 7 players won't bring what he brings 🤪...we will struggle to replace him in any way...🤯 We can't ignore that whilst he may not have always been fit, he has been a major figurehead on/off the park in what can be described as the most radical decline of our team in my memory and definitely periods in our history....you can argue this that or the other, but that is fact....on that basis alone, I think will will be fine, and maybe others brought in, will assume more responsibility going forward, than has been the case over the last 4 years or so... I'm sure there is life after SN!! I feel he can offer something on the pitch until his contract ran out, let see who we replace him with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo 1874 Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 8 hours ago, DH1986 said: You said we can’t buy “that”…….. So how the hell did we get “that” in the first place ? Did we pay a fee for Naismith?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo 1874 Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 (edited) 15 hours ago, Dazo said: And yet he is still going to be at the club. Must say something about the club he is willing to take another role. He still be a positive influence around the place. RN’s fault after a couple of persistent injury years he wants to retire ? 😂 Stay of the drugs during the week mate it isn’t doing you any favours. When he was fit, how many times did Robbie have him playing from the start. Edited June 17, 2021 by Bongo 1874 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stendelnator Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 Why do you always put a full stop after a question mark? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 Just now, Stendelnator said: Why do you always put a full stop after a question mark? I think it’s a Hibs thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TyphoonJambo Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 19 minutes ago, Doc Rob said: Agreed. Anyone who signs Souttar will be taking a chance on his future fitness, and that includes us. However, we will have a much more accurate knowledge on which to base the decision. Souttar knows what side of his sunblest faces upwards and he appreciates the faith afforded by the club. He's going nowhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo 1874 Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 1 minute ago, Stendelnator said: Why do you always put a full stop after a question mark? Why don't you quote posts 😂. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geomac Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, Stendelnator said: Why do you always put a full stop after a question mark? who does?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo 1874 Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 1 minute ago, Morgan said: I think it’s a Hibs thing. Yeah definitely morgan let's take the point away from the subject, a Hibs thing indeed, denial a Hibs thing?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absolute Scenes Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 Any signings? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 1 minute ago, geomac said: who does?. Bong, I think?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GavK1012 Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 5 minutes ago, Bongo 1874 said: I feel he can offer something on the pitch until his contract ran out, let see who we replace him with. I don't think we will 'replace' him, like for like, as it were...his addition at the material time was quite jaw dropping re his acquisition...his body simply gave up, Mr Magoo could see that... Excited to see hungry, ambitious, energetic, talented boys join us, to reflect the desire in the stands... This failed appreciation/mindset and over reliance that Levein brought re good seasoned pro's has produced a dramatic and unparalleled decline on the park, the likes few of us have seen before unfortunately, let's try something different and see where that gets us 👌🤞 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 1 minute ago, Bongo 1874 said: Yeah definitely morgan let's take the point away from the subject, a Hibs thing indeed, denial a Hibs thing?. That’s it. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo 1874 Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 Just now, Morgan said: Bong, I think?. Yeah that would bother me if I knew you could play football, nevermind spell it 😂😂 have a good night morgaro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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