"Delighted to ram it down their throats."

[Guest ToqueJambo]

7 minutes ago, Thomaso said:

The Brora result will be remembered long after the St Mirren result is forgotten. It was the worst and most embarrassing defeat in our history.

 

Disagree. I don't think we'll ever forget what happened last season and after the league was called. It'll be a major chapter in our history while that result will be a footnote.

[Glamorgan Jambo]

3 minutes ago, Thomaso said:

The Brora result will be remembered long after the St Mirren result is forgotten. It was the worst and most embarrassing defeat in our history.

The St Mirren result was the most damaging in our recent history. Had we won no way we would have been relegated or demoted. An outcome that cost millions.

 

Much as the Brora result was a shocker and an embarrassment it won’t define how we’re seen or what our stature in the game is.

[Bongo 1874]

1 minute ago, ToqueJambo said:

 

Disagree. I don't think we'll ever forget what happened last season and after the league was called. It'll be a major chapter in our history while that result will be a footnote.

 

1 minute ago, Glamorgan Jambo said:

The St Mirren result was the most damaging in our recent history. Had we won no way we would have been relegated or demoted. An outcome that cost millions.

 

Much as the Brora result was a shocker and an embarrassment it won’t define how we’re seen or what our stature in the game is.

So getting beat by a Scottish Premiership team is more embarrassing than getting beat of Brora?. 

[Bongo 1874]

2 hours ago, ToqueJambo said:

 

I've asked this a few times. Did Stendel want to manage us in the Championship?

 

He wanted guarantees of where Hearts would be playing and when the league would start. We couldn't provide those for obvious reasons so we had to move on. This is what he and his agent said at the time:

 

 "We are still waiting for more information or some sort of proposal from Ann (Budge). If we knew: 'OK it's in the Championship', fine. If we had a starting date for the Championship, and if the club had a clear vision of how to proceed, fine. If we knew when to start and what kind of football they wanted to play, what is their three-year plan and what are the aims and goals of the directors, it would help. If there was more clarity, then Daniel would say: "Okay, that sounds like a good project, let's go for it."

 

How could anyone provide any clarity back then? Sounds like he wanted guarantees we couldn't possibly provide for obvious reasons, which suggests to me he wasn't up for the Championship and that was the last thing we needed in a manager. We moved fast to get a manager that was as close to guaranteeing promotion as we could, and it worked.

 

This was 13 June. Neilson was appointed June 21st. I think there's more to the Stendel thing than we know. We needed someone willing to manage without knowing what league we'd be in or when it would start or what our budget might be, and Stendel obviously wasn't up for that.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/daniel-stendel-i-want-finish-job-hearts-it-will-be-ann-budges-decision-2886808%3Famp&ved=2ahUKEwj6iLP74vTvAhVy_7sIHftLDykQFjAAegQIAxAC&usg=AOvVaw0ek0LNGDMIxHMvkXbxlvoi&ampcf=1

 

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/sport/football/hearts-news-headlines-daniel-stendel-18440054.amp&ved=2ahUKEwj6iLP74vTvAhVy_7sIHftLDykQFjABegQIChAC&usg=AOvVaw1ABiyJZ6yeHZjf1ekfE9kA&ampcf=1

[Guest ToqueJambo]

10 minutes ago, Bongo 1874 said:

 

So getting beat by a Scottish Premiership team is more embarrassing than getting beat of Brora?. 

 

I'm glad you won't be writing future editions of Hearts history. "Lads, lads, we must have 5 chapters on how shit Robbie Neilson is and a blow by blow account of the Brora game with a big table showing how embarrassing it was compared to other embarrassing results. Forget that time Scottish football screwed us over during a pandemic and we took the league to court. Totally irrelevant."

Edited April 10, 2021 by ToqueJambo

[Guest ToqueJambo]

8 minutes ago, Bongo 1874 said:

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/daniel-stendel-i-want-finish-job-hearts-it-will-be-ann-budges-decision-2886808%3Famp&ved=2ahUKEwj6iLP74vTvAhVy_7sIHftLDykQFjAAegQIAxAC&usg=AOvVaw0ek0LNGDMIxHMvkXbxlvoi&ampcf=1

 

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/sport/football/hearts-news-headlines-daniel-stendel-18440054.amp&ved=2ahUKEwj6iLP74vTvAhVy_7sIHftLDykQFjABegQIChAC&usg=AOvVaw1ABiyJZ6yeHZjf1ekfE9kA&ampcf=1

 

Yes I'm sure he wanted to do it but with all the guarantees his agent told the papers about. So he didn't want to do it at that particular time when we needed a manager?

 

Interesting he says he didn't have a contract - so he wasn't sacked then? Glad we cleared that up and I assume he took the job knowing relegation was a possibility and he agreed to that clause.

 

So he wanted a new contract and was making demands and guarantees we couldn't meet? So we went elsewhere.

Edited April 10, 2021 by ToqueJambo

[Bongo 1874]

4 minutes ago, ToqueJambo said:

 

I'm glad you won't be writing future editions of Hearts history. "Lads, lads, we must have 5 chapters on how shit Robbie Neilson is and a blow by blow account of the Brora game with a bit table showing how embarrassing it was compared to other embarrassing results. Forget that time Scottish football screwed us over during a pandemic and we took the league to court. Totally irrelevant."

No your saying its embarrassing to get beat by St Mirren what can't you understand , we were demoted unfairly, how moronic can one be, if we got relagated by playing 38 games then you would have a point but you don't 😂😂. 

 

We won our league this season fair and square, just like Rangers have won there league fair and square. 

 

We weren't handed a title we won it outright. 

 

 

Edited April 10, 2021 by Bongo 1874

[Thomaso]

18 minutes ago, Glamorgan Jambo said:

The St Mirren result was the most damaging in our recent history. Had we won no way we would have been relegated or demoted. An outcome that cost millions.

 

Much as the Brora result was a shocker and an embarrassment it won’t define how we’re seen or what our stature in the game is.

You can spin it any way you want but the Brora result will be remembered as the worst and most embarrassing defeat on the history of our Club.

[Thomaso]

11 minutes ago, ToqueJambo said:

 

I'm glad you won't be writing future editions of Hearts history. "Lads, lads, we must have 5 chapters on how shit Robbie Neilson is and a blow by blow account of the Brora game with a big table showing how embarrassing it was compared to other embarrassing results. Forget that time Scottish football screwed us over during a pandemic and we took the league to court. Totally irrelevant."

Nobody will forget how we got screwed by Doncaster, Lawwell, Nelms et all - however that does not change the fact that the Brora defeat WAS the worst in our history.

[Thomaso]

24 minutes ago, Glamorgan Jambo said:

The St Mirren result was the most damaging in our recent history. Had we won no way we would have been relegated or demoted. An outcome that cost millions.

 

Much as the Brora result was a shocker and an embarrassment it won’t define how we’re seen or what our stature in the game is.

Our stature in the game hit rock bottom when we lost to a part time Highland league team that hadn’t played for 10 weeks!

Whether we can recover our stature as the 3rd force in Scottish football remains debatable under our current management.

[Geoff Kilpatrick]

1 hour ago, Thomaso said:

Nobody will forget how we got screwed by Doncaster, Lawwell, Nelms et all - however that does not change the fact that the Brora defeat WAS the worst in our history.

Correct. Hopefully, it will be seen as our nadir in our history.

[merseyjambo]

You have to laugh at the utter dog crap that the NDF are coming out with and justifying how getting beaten by a part time non league team who hadn’t played a game in weeks is somehow better than being beaten by St Mirren.

 

At the time of the St Mirren game, yes people were aware that sport was going to go into cold storage, but no one knew how long for. We still had 8 games left to play and we had players like Boyce who were struggling with injuries. No one will know how it would have turned out but you only have to look at leagues across Europe to see that teams who looked dead and buried last March got themselves out of it once the leagues restarted. The whole issue there is the fact Doncaster and his cronies pushed an agenda of lies to get the leagues called. A fact that when broadcasters asked for a refund, most clubs were shocked by this. 
 

The truth is the football we have played for the most part this season has been turgid, insipid and uninspired crap yet somehow a 6-0 win over a part time team who were on the verge of getting relegated suddenly makes Robbie the new Pep. 
 

The NDF has been nowhere to be seen recently yet we get one result and all of a sudden they’re like Brexiteers talking about ‘sunny uplands’. Most people still want him gone because they know that he is not the man to take the club forward. FML even Malofeev could have gotten us out of this league.

[Jeffros Furios]

1 hour ago, merseyjambo said:

You have to laugh at the utter dog crap that the NDF are coming out with and justifying how getting beaten by a part time non league team who hadn’t played a game in weeks is somehow better than being beaten by St Mirren.

 

At the time of the St Mirren game, yes people were aware that sport was going to go into cold storage, but no one knew how long for. We still had 8 games left to play and we had players like Boyce who were struggling with injuries. No one will know how it would have turned out but you only have to look at leagues across Europe to see that teams who looked dead and buried last March got themselves out of it once the leagues restarted. The whole issue there is the fact Doncaster and his cronies pushed an agenda of lies to get the leagues called. A fact that when broadcasters asked for a refund, most clubs were shocked by this. 
 

The truth is the football we have played for the most part this season has been turgid, insipid and uninspired crap yet somehow a 6-0 win over a part time team who were on the verge of getting relegated suddenly makes Robbie the new Pep. 
 

The NDF has been nowhere to be seen recently yet we get one result and all of a sudden they’re like Brexiteers talking about ‘sunny uplands’. Most people still want him gone because they know that he is not the man to take the club forward. FML even Malofeev could have gotten us out of this league.

The NDL are a bunch of losers .

[Hashimoto]

9 hours ago, Glamorgan Jambo said:

The St Mirren result was the most damaging in our recent history. Had we won no way we would have been relegated or demoted. An outcome that cost millions.

 

Much as the Brora result was a shocker and an embarrassment it won’t define how we’re seen or what our stature in the game is.

Are you sure about that?

Folk still talk about Berwick Rangers beating Rangers in 1967....Do you think we'll be talking about the St Mirren game, or the Brora game in years to come? Do you think away fans and the media will rub our noses in it and remind us over the St Mirren or Brora game?

You decide?

Stendel will not be held into account or remembered over one game (St Mirren) But you can bank on it that Neilson will never live down the Brora result. 

Neilson Out

Edited April 11, 2021 by Hashimoto

[Hashimoto]

Lads, lads, we must have 5 chapters on how shit Robbie Neilson is 

Only 5 chapters?

Neilson Out

[Glamorgan Jambo]

42 minutes ago, Hashimoto said:

Are you sure about that?

Folk still talk about Berwick Rangers beating Rangers in 1967....Do you think we'll be talking about the St Mirren game, or the Brora game in years to come? Do you think away fans and the media will rub our noses in it and remind us over the St Mirren or Brora game?

You decide?

Stendel will not be held into account or remembered over one game (St Mirren) But you can bank on it that Neilson will never live down the Brora result. 

Neilson Out

The effect of the St Mirren result and our diminished finances will be with the club for several years. 
 

Of course folk will forget Stendel. His role in what led up to the St Mirren result and what followed was minor compared to others especially Levein.
 

Football fans wind up their rivals. It’s part of the game. If you can’t deal with it you’re following the wrong sport.

[kingantti1874]

people still trying to airbrush the worst result, and the most embarrassing on the pitch performance in the history of Scottish football / British football 

[Glamorgan Jambo]

9 hours ago, Thomaso said:

Our stature in the game hit rock bottom when we lost to a part time Highland league team that hadn’t played for 10 weeks!

Whether we can recover our stature as the 3rd force in Scottish football remains debatable under our current management.

Agree with your second point but folks will forget the Brora result believe me. I’ve seen us put out the cup by Forfar at home. The short term reaction to that result was just as strong but it’s a result that largely got forgotten about quickly.

 

The financial impact of this season in a lower league will be profound and affect us in many ways for quite a few years.

[MarkDevriesScores4]

Kickback. The football forum where fans of the same club argue about how sh*** we are and where we peaked 😂

[Glamorgan Jambo]

9 hours ago, Bongo 1874 said:

 

So getting beat by a Scottish Premiership team is more embarrassing than getting beat of Brora?. 

No but it will have a more profound and lasting impact on the club.

 

Cup upsets happen. The anger in the aupport isn’t, IMO, at the specific result but the years of decline and squandered opportunities. Brora was only the straw that broke the camels back.

 

In the same way that losing to St Mirren to leave us somewhat adrift at the bottom but was the result that made our fate overwhelmingly likely. Stendel had to take the rap for that individual result but certainly 90%+ of the blame for us having to endure a financially stressed season in the championship is at the feet of Levein and those that didn’t supervise and measure his performance closely enough.

 

[Mars plastic]

17 minutes ago, Glamorgan Jambo said:

The effect of the St Mirren result and our diminished finances will be with the club for several years. 
 

Utter drivel.

[Nookie Bear]

2 minutes ago, Glamorgan Jambo said:

 

10 minutes ago, Glamorgan Jambo said:

The financial impact of this season in a lower league will be profound and affect us in many ways for quite a few years.

Why?

 

Dundee Utd and hibs have managed to push on. We sold 1000’s of season tickets this season and no doubt will do the same next year. 
We lost out on prize money - a few thousand for a bottom 6 in the SPL - and European football wasn’t happening either. 

TV money, yes. How much was lost? I suspect we lost more with the failed legal action. 

 

[Mars plastic]

10 minutes ago, Nookie Bear said:

Why?

 

Dundee Utd and hibs have managed to push on. We sold 1000’s of season tickets this season and no doubt will do the same next year. 
We lost out on prize money - a few thousand for a bottom 6 in the SPL - and European football wasn’t happening either. 

TV money, yes. How much was lost? I suspect we lost more with the failed legal action. 

 

Correct. What are these mythical millions we've missed out on that the Welsh chap is talking about?

[Ainsley Harriott]

Ram what down their throats? Winning a terrible league with a huge budget compared to the others. My Granny could have taken hearts out of that league quicker than that arsehole 

[merseyjambo]

31 minutes ago, Glamorgan Jambo said:

Agree with your second point but folks will forget the Brora result believe me. I’ve seen us put out the cup by Forfar at home. The short term reaction to that result was just as strong but it’s a result that largely got forgotten about quickly.

 

The financial impact of this season in a lower league will be profound and affect us in many ways for quite a few years.

Really. Have folk forgot about 1967 when Berwick Rangers toppled Glasgow Rangers or when Newcastle were dumped by Hereford or when Sutton beat the cup holders Coventry or Wrexham beating Arsenal. I could go on with more but those upsets happened over 20 years ago and people still go on about them.

 

Due to the pandemic, how much have we actually lost in real terms. We still sold season tickets, maybe tv money from 5/6 home games (2 v Hibs, 2 v Celtic and 1 v Rangers plus another if we’d reached top 6. Sky don’t really do non OF games) and the advertising that goes with it. Prize money, probably 500k-1m. There have been zero ticket sales for anyone, no corporate hospitality, nothing like that. In real terms we probably haven’t lost that much in comparison to being in the SPL. The figures being spoken about at start of season simply haven’t materialised because there have been zero fans in any ground so a bigger percentage of the losses are due to the pandemic not demotion.

 

If you think the fans want Neilson out because of one result then you’re as deluded as the rest of the NDF. 

Edited April 11, 2021 by merseyjambo

[Beni]

2 minutes ago, Mars plastic said:

Correct. What are these mythical millions we've missed out on that the Welsh chap is talking about?

 

We also got a 500k grant from the government, whereas the premiership teams only got interest free loans.

[JDK2020]

10 hours ago, ToqueJambo said:

 

I'm glad you won't be writing future editions of Hearts history. "Lads, lads, we must have 5 chapters on how shit Robbie Neilson is and a blow by blow account of the Brora game with a big table showing how embarrassing it was compared to other embarrassing results. Forget that time Scottish football screwed us over during a pandemic and we took the league to court. Totally irrelevant."

 

The Brora result - and all it symbolised - will be remembered long after everything else becomes a faded memory IMO.

Edited April 11, 2021 by JDK2020

[Super_Hans]

Every year when the Scottish Cup comes round, the shame and embarrassment of this Brora result is getting rammed down our throats. Cheers Robbie.

[Beni]

1 minute ago, JDK2020 said:

 

The Brora result will be remembered long after everything else becomes a faded memory IMO.

 

First defeat by a non league club for 120 years, but getting beat by St Mirren, who were above us in the league, is somehow comparable. 🙃

[JDK2020]

2 minutes ago, fancy a brew said:

 

First defeat by a non league club for 120 years, but getting beat by St Mirren, who were above us in the league, is somehow comparable. 🙃

 

Yep, if only there was a trophy for turd-polishing...

[Taffin]

The Brora result perfectly encapsulated everything that is, and has been, wrong with the club for about 5 years. It was the manifestation of years of mismanagement which then saw us suffer our single most embarrassing defeat. It will be mentioned during the Scottish Cup for many years to come. 

[Sertse]

The Brora result was on national news and is going to be mentioned every year from now on.

St Mirren are a premiership team. Losing to them was unfortunate and a game we needed to win but have a bit of perspective. If the league wasn't cut short it would have meant feck all.

We beat a part time team that's bottom of the league as we should and posters rush to defend Neilson. Are we forgetting the absolutely awful results now?

He had two windows to get the team he wants and they have been absolute duds or completely underperforming.

 

[davieholt]

43 minutes ago, Glamorgan Jambo said:

No but it will have a more profound and lasting impact on the club.

 

Cup upsets happen. The anger in the aupport isn’t, IMO, at the specific result but the years of decline and squandered opportunities. Brora was only the straw that broke the camels back.

 

In the same way that losing to St Mirren to leave us somewhat adrift at the bottom but was the result that made our fate overwhelmingly likely. Stendel had to take the rap for that individual result but certainly 90%+ of the blame for us having to endure a financially stressed season in the championship is at the feet of Levein and those that didn’t supervise and measure his performance closely enough.

 

 

Absolutely correct.

 

[Thomaso]

43 minutes ago, Glamorgan Jambo said:

Agree with your second point but folks will forget the Brora result believe me. I’ve seen us put out the cup by Forfar at home. The short term reaction to that result was just as strong but it’s a result that largely got forgotten about quickly.

 

The financial impact of this season in a lower league will be profound and affect us in many ways for quite a few years.

I was at that Forfar game  however my point was the Brora result will be remembered as our worst ever and most embarrassing result in history. The anger may subside but it’s on the record book just like Rangers SC loss to Berwick all those years ago.

As for our demotion effecting us for years can you expand on that?

Season ticket sales stood up, however no crowds were all allowed in meaning no hospitality and catering sales - but that was the same for all clubs in the virus shutdown not just the demoted ones.

Im not saying there was no financial impact on us however after winning the league everyone should be buzzing with ST and FoH contributions on the up for next season - instead we have a fan base pissed of with the drab football under Neilson and the promise of more in the Premier league!

[Section Q]

10 hours ago, Glamorgan Jambo said:

The St Mirren result was the most damaging in our recent history. Had we won no way we would have been relegated or demoted. An outcome that cost millions.

 

Much as the Brora result was a shocker and an embarrassment it won’t define how we’re seen or what our stature in the game is.

I think the first game of last season had an impact on our whole season. Aberdeen away. Behind by a goal, Naisy comes on and scores 2 and then they respond and beat us 3-2. Downhill from there and too reliant on the wee man....

[Randy Marsh]

39 minutes ago, fancy a brew said:

 

We also got a 500k grant from the government, whereas the premiership teams only got interest free loans.

We also didn't have to carry out Covid testing as frequently by being in the Championship.  Financially I would say Hearts have lost very little by being in the Championship this season.  The TV deal is awful anyway and a huge chunk of that had to be paid back for the incomplete season. 

Edited April 11, 2021 by Randy Marsh

[Seymour M Hersh]

45 minutes ago, JDK2020 said:

 

The Brora result - and all it symbolised - will be remembered long after everything else becomes a faded memory IMO.

 

I've forgotten about it already. I see no reason to dwell on such a rank rotten performance and result. Others may want to continue to wallow in it to fire up their anger towards the manager but I think I'll move on. And for the avoidance of doubt I want Neilson replaced after this season has finished. 

[Glamorgan Jambo]

20 minutes ago, Thomaso said:

I was at that Forfar game  however my point was the Brora result will be remembered as our worst ever and most embarrassing result in history. The anger may subside but it’s on the record book just like Rangers SC loss to Berwick all those years ago.

As for our demotion effecting us for years can you expand on that?

Season ticket sales stood up, however no crowds were all allowed in meaning no hospitality and catering sales - but that was the same for all clubs in the virus shutdown not just the demoted ones.

Im not saying there was no financial impact on us however after winning the league everyone should be buzzing with ST and FoH contributions on the up for next season - instead we have a fan base pissed of with the drab football under Neilson and the promise of more in the Premier league!

Here’s how demotion affects us for the next few seasons at least

 

1. Lower share of the SPFL pool including the TV revenues that make up that pool. Most of the money the BBC paid for covering the many games we played this season will end up with Rangers and Celtic.

2. Fewer matches this season so less opportunities for PPV and sponsorship income

3. Ongoing liabilities next season for this season’s season tickets due to fewer games played.

4. Debt service (to Bidco) costs to cover the wider gap

5. We started off with one of the highest cost bases of any club in Scotland so it’s natural that relegation affected us much more heavily than it would be affected St Mirren for example.

 

By the way I’m more embarrassed about losing to Brora than St Mirren (although I suspect time has been a healer for some regarding what happened at Love Street). I know what caused more damage to the club though and it wasn’t that performance in the middle of a hurricane in the Highlands.

 

[Pasquale for King]

4 hours ago, merseyjambo said:

You have to laugh at the utter dog crap that the NDF are coming out with and justifying how getting beaten by a part time non league team who hadn’t played a game in weeks is somehow better than being beaten by St Mirren.

 

At the time of the St Mirren game, yes people were aware that sport was going to go into cold storage, but no one knew how long for. We still had 8 games left to play and we had players like Boyce who were struggling with injuries. No one will know how it would have turned out but you only have to look at leagues across Europe to see that teams who looked dead and buried last March got themselves out of it once the leagues restarted. The whole issue there is the fact Doncaster and his cronies pushed an agenda of lies to get the leagues called. A fact that when broadcasters asked for a refund, most clubs were shocked by this. 
 

The truth is the football we have played for the most part this season has been turgid, insipid and uninspired crap yet somehow a 6-0 win over a part time team who were on the verge of getting relegated suddenly makes Robbie the new Pep. 
 

The NDF has been nowhere to be seen recently yet we get one result and all of a sudden they’re like Brexiteers talking about ‘sunny uplands’. Most people still want him gone because they know that he is not the man to take the club forward. FML even Malofeev could have gotten us out of this league.

Spot on. 

[Pasquale for King]

36 minutes ago, Randy Marsh said:

We also didn't have to carry out Covid testing as frequently by being in the Championship.  Financially I would say Hearts have lost very little by being in the Championship this season.  The TV deal is awful anyway and a huge chunk of that had to be paid back for the incomplete season. 

Definitely, the income streams that have dried up are Covid related such as match day revenue from suites/kiosks/shop/bar. Everyone has suffered from this. 

[Pasquale for King]

27 minutes ago, Glamorgan Jambo said:

Here’s how demotion affects us for the next few seasons at least

 

1. Lower share of the SPFL pool including the TV revenues that make up that pool. Most of the money the BBC paid for covering the many games we played this season will end up with Rangers and Celtic.

2. Fewer matches this season so less opportunities for PPV and sponsorship income

3. Ongoing liabilities next season for this season’s season tickets due to fewer games played.

4. Debt service (to Bidco) costs to cover the wider gap

5. We started off with one of the highest cost bases of any club in Scotland so it’s natural that relegation affected us much more heavily than it would be affected St Mirren for example.

 

By the way I’m more embarrassed about losing to Brora than St Mirren (although I suspect time has been a healer for some regarding what happened at Love Street). I know what caused more damage to the club though and it wasn’t that performance in the middle of a hurricane in the Highlands.

 

Who suffered the consequences for that apart from Stendel? Shouldn’t the person who hired another failed manager, if you think he did in three months, lose their job? Should they be allowed to hire failure after failure and go on regardless? 
It can’t just be blamed on Stendel. 

[Turkishcap]

We have to live with the Brora result take it on the chin and learn.

100, 200 years from now it will be brought up.

Cant eradicate history but we will survive.

[The Mighty Thor]

Wow this thread took a turn. 

 

Here's what will happen. Those now suggesting Bob gets a window to get 'his players' in will get their wish. 

Bob will still be in charge at Hearts next season. The same players, plus Bob's summer signings (which during his two spells have been brutal) will supplement the shite he's already signed and we'll pick up where we left off in 2019-20, playing turgid, eye bleeding football and getting turned over by shite like St Mirren, Kilmarnock, Ross County. 

Bob will run out of road when we're in the bottom 3 after Christmas and at that point we'll panic and bring in another managerial dud and a crowd of Loic Damours. 

It doesn't have to be this way but it will be because our Board actively seeks mediocrity and our fans accept it. Willingly. 

 

Neilson-ball in the SPL? 

 

[Thomaso]

57 minutes ago, Glamorgan Jambo said:

Here’s how demotion affects us for the next few seasons at least

 

1. Lower share of the SPFL pool including the TV revenues that make up that pool. Most of the money the BBC paid for covering the many games we played this season will end up with Rangers and Celtic.

2. Fewer matches this season so less opportunities for PPV and sponsorship income

3. Ongoing liabilities next season for this season’s season tickets due to fewer games played.

4. Debt service (to Bidco) costs to cover the wider gap

5. We started off with one of the highest cost bases of any club in Scotland so it’s natural that relegation affected us much more heavily than it would be affected St Mirren for example.

 

By the way I’m more embarrassed about losing to Brora than St Mirren (although I suspect time has been a healer for some regarding what happened at Love Street). I know what caused more damage to the club though and it wasn’t that performance in the middle of a hurricane in the Highlands.

 

“A hurricane”??? Is that a new excuse? 😏

[Glamorgan Jambo]

1 hour ago, Thomaso said:

“A hurricane”??? Is that a new excuse? 😏

Erm no

 

PS did I expand enough for you

[Glamorgan Jambo]

2 hours ago, Pasquale for King said:

Who suffered the consequences for that apart from Stendel? Shouldn’t the person who hired another failed manager, if you think he did in three months, lose their job? Should they be allowed to hire failure after failure and go on regardless? 
It can’t just be blamed on Stendel. 

If you read my earlier posts I said that 90%+ of the blame was with Levein and Ann who left Craig essentially unsupervised for so many years.

[Mars plastic]

2 hours ago, The Mighty Thor said:

Wow this thread took a turn. 

 

Here's what will happen. Those now suggesting Bob gets a window to get 'his players' in will get their wish. 

Bob will still be in charge at Hearts next season. The same players, plus Bob's summer signings (which during his two spells have been brutal) will supplement the shite he's already signed and we'll pick up where we left off in 2019-20, playing turgid, eye bleeding football and getting turned over by shite like St Mirren, Kilmarnock, Ross County. 

Bob will run out of road when we're in the bottom 3 after Christmas and at that point we'll panic and bring in another managerial dud and a crowd of Loic Damours. 

It doesn't have to be this way but it will be because our Board actively seeks mediocrity and our fans accept it. Willingly. 

 

Neilson-ball in the SPL? 

 

This post will most certainly age well. Look it back up in 8 months. 

[Pasquale for King]

18 minutes ago, Glamorgan Jambo said:

If you read my earlier posts I said that 90%+ of the blame was with Levein and Ann who left Craig essentially unsupervised for so many years.

Spot on. Has she suffered any consequences of this apart from not being allowed to renew her hero’s contract and go on to inflict his mini me upon us? 

[Pasquale for King]

2 hours ago, The Mighty Thor said:

Wow this thread took a turn. 

 

Here's what will happen. Those now suggesting Bob gets a window to get 'his players' in will get their wish. 

Bob will still be in charge at Hearts next season. The same players, plus Bob's summer signings (which during his two spells have been brutal) will supplement the shite he's already signed and we'll pick up where we left off in 2019-20, playing turgid, eye bleeding football and getting turned over by shite like St Mirren, Kilmarnock, Ross County. 

Bob will run out of road when we're in the bottom 3 after Christmas and at that point we'll panic and bring in another managerial dud and a crowd of Loic Damours. 

It doesn't have to be this way but it will be because our Board actively seeks mediocrity and our fans accept it. Willingly. 

 

Neilson-ball in the SPL? 

 

Frighteningly correct 🙈

[Thomaso]

40 minutes ago, Glamorgan Jambo said:

Erm no

 

PS did I expand enough for you

Sorry yes you did, thanks - I just had a double take moment on the “hurricane” being the cause of our Brora defeat! 😉