Cruyff Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 9 minutes ago, Gmcjambo said: Good spot. Lots of rumours doing the rounds but one thing AB will be doing is holding her cards close to her chest and respecting RNs confidentiality. I take it all simply as speculation. Quite agree. I like Big Dunc as a guy and as a player. Pure heart on the sleeve character. I don't think he'd be the right man. He's just too risky. The last thing we would need is oor manager headbutting a ref or strangling one pitch side if we've had bad decisions against us. I don't know if he could keep a lid on it, he's absolutely mental. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTT Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 4 minutes ago, Cruyff said: Quite agree. I like Big Dunc as a guy and as a player. Pure heart on the sleeve character. I don't think he'd be the right man. He's just too risky. The last thing we would need is oor manager headbutting a ref or strangling one pitch side if we've had bad decisions against us. I don't know if he could keep a lid on it, he's absolutely mental. I kind of like the idea of him beelining towards a panicked Willie Collum following (yet another) dubious penalty award. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Sanchez Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 He had those Everton players running themselves into the ground for him. That's all I really remember. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deevers Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 He’d take no nonsense from some of our under achieving players. Said it for a while this club needs a shake up from top to bottom. A manager with high standards and who is unwilling to accept mediocrity would be an excellent start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glamorgan Jambo Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 He’ll be on a pretty huge wage at Everton. The owners would be under severe pressure from the fans if they let him go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 11 hours ago, FinnBarr Saunders said: Who? Shearer or Ferguson? The Ancelotti reference should have cleared that up FB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigO Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Rick Sanchez said: He had those Everton players running themselves into the ground for him. That's all I really remember. Yep they'd been underperforming and all of a sudden were running through walls for Dunc. He held himself very well for those few games. I get the impression he'd be the type to set up a team pretty simply but just have them out work and out run the opposition. That's all we need. We'll have better players than probably 80% of our opposition, if we work harder than them too, it's pretty simple maths! I also think he'd have no fear of OF. Like others, don't see it, but unlike others, wouldn't see it as a risk at all. The talk of him chinning refs etc. Daft. Doesn't come in to it. From what I've heard and read of him, he commands respect through character and passion, not intimidation. Aye he was a nutter when young, but a club like Everton don't keep you if you've got players up against walls and threatening refs etc. Hibs, Celtic and the likes condone that from Lennon but no chance you climb the ladder at Everton if you've no filter for pure violence as a coach!!! Edited April 3, 2021 by TheBigO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john thomas Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 48 minutes ago, franco2209 said: Your wording was in relation to being ' a good manager' 👍 To be fair I thought the point was well made . Wouldn't pretend to know how things work in training [spare us the usual keech] but did think the combination of Neilson and McCulloch was , on paper , ideal . Noticed McCulloch doing arm round the shoulder stuff at times , don't get the impression there is much arse kicking going on ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavvy Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 Naismith as player coach/assistant? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarrysRightFoot Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 Bannockburn boy I think, so may still have ties/family up here. First thoughts are, I can’t imagine players getting away with not giving 100% - which is exactly what we need - and he would be very marketable, entertaining. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlimOzturk Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 10 hours ago, BarneyBattles said: Anyone who confronts burglars in the scud with a grin on his face as he comes down the stairs to batter them would thankfully put the fear into our squad. It’s a yes from me. Is this actually true have heard it being told but thought it was just a story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a11ank Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 Wouldn't have a problem with big Dunc. I think it would merely be a stepping stone though for whenever the Everton job comes along. Unfortunately, it would appear that Robbie has superglued himself to the post and has no intentions of freeing up any time soon! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 11 minutes ago, AlimOzturk said: Is this actually true have heard it being told but thought it was just a story. https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/12158603.duncan-ferguson-fights-off-two-intruders/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 It was his fourth conviction. In 1991 he was convicted of head-butting a policeman in Stirling and fined #125. The following year, he was fined #200 after he punched and kicked a postman who was on crutches. the third assault, at Anstruther, Fife, in 1992, an argument took place in a pub and a fisherman was knocked to the ground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beave1874 Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 11 hours ago, LeftBack said: I've said it before. Friends with the big man and he was approached before Stendel but wanted to stay with Ancelloti. Very interested in hearts job and has 100% been asked if interested. Did well in his very short term as stand in manager at Everton. Certainly endeared himself to the players and fans with his enthusiasm. Was he talk of the EPL in that short term. Would take no s""t from anyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Italian Lambretta Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 1 hour ago, Gmcjambo said: Good spot. Lots of rumours doing the rounds but one thing AB will be doing is holding her cards close to her chest and respecting RNs confidentiality. I take it all simply as speculation. Or she's more likely doing **** all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_A wehatethehibs Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 For me, big dunc is yet another unknown quantity / rookie as a manager. The only advantage is he could get us a few Everton youths on loan. Are they going to be any good? Judging by the dross that’s come to us from man United, West Ham and Liverpool in recent years probably not. But he has been coaching for a number of years now so, maybe The right move for us at this moment in time for me is an experienced SPL manager that knows how to build a back 4 and central midfield who will be disciplined, physically dominant and do their jobs. We are all set at goalkeeper and look quite decent front 4-5. Maybe 1 more winger and a young striker for Naismith to mentor. 2 good center halves, 2 good Center mids, and 3 or 4 younger players in to compete for a place, that’s all we need to be a force next season IMO. I Would want to go with a manager who would have the experience to identify that and implement that fix. We don’t actually need that massive a turnover of players but it’s the positions that are so important because it’s the spine of the team. So for that reason I wouldn’t want it to be someone coming into their first managers job. But there’s other factors as well i suppose. Big dunc would certainly bring a spotlight to the club especially for the games against Rangers and Celtic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borders Jambo Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 48 minutes ago, gavvy said: Naismith as player coach/assistant? No idea why Naismith keeps getting mentioned. Has he done much coaching? For me if we got big Dunc, there should only be one Assistant, Pasquale Bruno. Imagine season ticket sales. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mabawsa Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 I see this as quite positive, but as mentioned we would have to give him a bit of time. Gerrard never nailed it initially which highlights this. Whilst I hear the misbehaviour in his early days, I think he clearly has grown up or he would not be in the position he is now. The experienced manager bit does not to do it for me, look around England......Allardyce, Pulis, Lambert and loads of others just constantly moving round clubs getting rich and getting sacked. To me they are more of a risk. Continually pish! I for one would happily take this option rather the same old folk doing the rounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sertse Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 Would take him in a heartbeat. What an appointment this would be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therefsajambo Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 31 minutes ago, GinRummy said: It was his fourth conviction. In 1991 he was convicted of head-butting a policeman in Stirling and fined #125. The following year, he was fined #200 after he punched and kicked a postman who was on crutches. the third assault, at Anstruther, Fife, in 1992, an argument took place in a pub and a fisherman was knocked to the ground. The postman was a Jambo Tae. His parents still stay in st ninians. It was carse thistle who he played for when he was young. Couldnae get a game for St Ninians. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sertse Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Mabawsa said: I see this as quite positive, but as mentioned we would have to give him a bit of time. Gerrard never nailed it initially which highlights this. Whilst I hear the misbehaviour in his early days, I think he clearly has grown up or he would not be in the position he is now. The experienced manager bit does not to do it for me, look around England......Allardyce, Pulis, Lambert and loads of others just constantly moving round clubs getting rich and getting sacked. To me they are more of a risk. Continually pish! I for one would happily take this option rather the same old folk doing the rounds. I'd be willing to give him a chance definitely. The reason people don't want Neilson here (including me) is he's the safe option, a nice guy who won't rock the boat and will carry on with boring, dull, uninspired and outdated football. I'd have kept Stendel despite the poor run of form because he was an actual football manager, not some diddy just doing what Budge says. Would love this appointment, we might actually end up playing football again. Edited April 3, 2021 by Sertse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambo Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 Would be an exciting appointment imo, but cannot see it happening. An exciting appointment is what we need right now, someone who will have all the fragments of the club pulling in one direction. (Not saying that has to be DF) McInnes/Neil/Robinson/McCann etc would be 'safe' appointments and would be seen as a bit 'meh'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_A wehatethehibs Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 As a manager He’s just a hard ian Cathro at this stage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoGwash Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 1 hour ago, TheBigO said: Yep they'd been underperforming and all of a sudden were running through walls for Dunc. He held himself very well for those few games. I get the impression he'd be the type to set up a team pretty simply but just have them out work and out run the opposition. That's all we need. We'll have better players than probably 80% of our opposition, if we work harder than them too, it's pretty simple maths! I also think he'd have no fear of OF. Like others, don't see it, but unlike others, wouldn't see it as a risk at all. The talk of him chinning refs etc. Daft. Doesn't come in to it. From what I've heard and read of him, he commands respect through character and passion, not intimidation. Aye he was a nutter when young, but a club like Everton don't keep you if you've got players up against walls and threatening refs etc. Hibs, Celtic and the likes condone that from Lennon but no chance you climb the ladder at Everton if you've no filter for pure violence as a coach!!! Agree with all this. Has served a very good apprenticeship at a well run club under a managerial great and was impressive as caretaker manager. Sadly no chance this will happen but would be an exciting appointment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davieholt Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 10 minutes ago, A_A wehatethehibs said: As a manager He’s just a hard ian Cathro at this stage. Perhaps that was precisely what Cathro needed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeftBack Posted April 3, 2021 Author Share Posted April 3, 2021 3 hours ago, DH1986 said: There is a definite slight change of tone here. Really not. Im not that strange! Anyway Mon the hearts today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeftBack Posted April 3, 2021 Author Share Posted April 3, 2021 1 hour ago, Borders Jambo said: No idea why Naismith keeps getting mentioned. Has he done much coaching? For me if we got big Dunc, there should only be one Assistant, Pasquale Bruno. Imagine season ticket sales. Another fantasy story🙄 but interviewed Bruno and rousett as part of my dissertation for uni-the foreign influence in Scottish football. When I was speaking to Bruno Robbo came in and said stay off the Moscow mules you mental italian. Gilles had a massive stutter and kept banging desk which was a bit awkward for editing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambogemz Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 Would be a risky appointment given his inexperience of being number 1. Gave a good account of himself in the short spell he was Everton caretaker but could relax a little and be himself as he knew he wasn't getting it full time. Wouldn't be against him getting a chance though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
151 Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 ****ing love the big man, this would be good. Would 100% instill the passion. Not sure how true though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadj Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 3 hours ago, GinRummy said: It was his fourth conviction. In 1991 he was convicted of head-butting a policeman in Stirling and fined #125. The following year, he was fined #200 after he punched and kicked a postman who was on crutches. the third assault, at Anstruther, Fife, in 1992, an argument took place in a pub and a fisherman was knocked to the ground. So a policeman , fisherman and postman walk into Duncan Ferguson...whats the punchline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TyphoonJambo Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 15 hours ago, pointon said: I would give him a piggy up here if that is true You and me both mate. Exactly what we need. I bet he'd "get the message across". I just want him into batter some folk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geddyalexneil Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 3 hours ago, Borders Jambo said: No idea why Naismith keeps getting mentioned. Has he done much coaching? For me if we got big Dunc, there should only be one Assistant, Pasquale Bruno. Imagine season ticket sales. Can you imagine the 2 of them on the touchline? Christ the officials would be terrified to give a decision against us😂. That would be good! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 Just now, sadj said: So a policeman , fisherman and postman walk into Duncan Ferguson...whats the punchline The candlestick maker, fearing the worst, moved out of the area Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadj Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 Just now, GinRummy said: The candlestick maker, fearing the worst, moved out of the area Touché my friend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 Just now, sadj said: Touché my friend The bit about the postie being on crutches took me aback a wee bit. Can you imagine that big lump coming at you when you’re hobbling about on crutches 🥺 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borders Jambo Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 2 hours ago, LeftBack said: Another fantasy story🙄 but interviewed Bruno and rousett as part of my dissertation for uni-the foreign influence in Scottish football. When I was speaking to Bruno Robbo came in and said stay off the Moscow mules you mental italian. Gilles had a massive stutter and kept banging desk which was a bit awkward for editing Brilliant story and what a great dissertation to do My wife met Gilles when he was here. She was involved with a charity at the time and in charge of a hospice. Gilles turned up to create a bit of publicity for the charity and was an absolute gentleman. How I would love if we could find players like Gilles, Bruno, Salvatori and Adam again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldGorgie Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 Never read such nonsense. The guy is a complete oaf and not the sort of type we need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeftBack Posted April 3, 2021 Author Share Posted April 3, 2021 18 minutes ago, Borders Jambo said: Brilliant story and what a great dissertation to do My wife met Gilles when he was here. She was involved with a charity at the time and in charge of a hospice. Gilles turned up to create a bit of publicity for the charity and was an absolute gentleman. How I would love if we could find players like Gilles, Bruno, Salvatori and Adam again. I know people will think he was big... But **** me... Meeting him in person he was huge. Hands like shovels. Unfortunately I also interviewed hans eskilsson. To be honest jj said it was toss up between me and him to start against Motherwell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeftBack Posted April 3, 2021 Author Share Posted April 3, 2021 1 minute ago, LeftBack said: I know people will think he was big... But **** me... Meeting him in person he was huge. Hands like shovels. Unfortunately I also interviewed hans eskilsson. To be honest jj said it was toss up between me and him to start against Motherwell I also interviewed jj the day mcann signed for rangers. He came up to boss and said that's me away gaffer. The fan in me just said.. So how much did we get for him £2m? I swear the look jj gave me will haunt me till day I die... "its got xxxx all to do with you son" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paolo Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 55 minutes ago, sadj said: So a policeman , fisherman and postman walk into Duncan Ferguson...whats the punchline Sound like the Brora team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 4 hours ago, a11ank said: Wouldn't have a problem with big Dunc. I think it would merely be a stepping stone though for whenever the Everton job comes along. Unfortunately, it would appear that Robbie has superglued himself to the post and has no intentions of freeing up any time soon! I'm a fan of big Dunc, the boy's a force of nature. He's also highly respected in terms of coaching, in the same way Gerrard was at Liverpool. I'd love to see him at Hearts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibrahim Tall Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 4 hours ago, A_A wehatethehibs said: As a manager He’s just a hard ian Cathro at this stage. Given Cathro biggest ‘problems’ seemed to be perception that he was a ‘mumbling little geek with a laptop’ without a playing career rather than anything else, I don’t think that’s necessarily a problem.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_A wehatethehibs Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 10 minutes ago, Ibrahim Tall said: Given Cathro biggest ‘problems’ seemed to be perception that he was a ‘mumbling little geek with a laptop’ without a playing career rather than anything else, I don’t think that’s necessarily a problem.. Aye but I’m talking about his credentials for the Hearts job. The 3rd biggest job in Scottish football. His credentials are about level with what Cathros were when he joined. A rookie with no relevant experience of this league or of management. Erego he’s just a hard Ian Cathro at this stage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeftBack Posted April 3, 2021 Author Share Posted April 3, 2021 56 minutes ago, A_A wehatethehibs said: Aye but I’m talking about his credentials for the Hearts job. The 3rd biggest job in Scottish football. His credentials are about level with what Cathros were when he joined. A rookie with no relevant experience of this league or of management. Erego he’s just a hard Ian Cathro at this stage. Spoke to my old mate big Duncan... He says he is daft but not stupid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboozy Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 9 minutes ago, LeftBack said: Spoke to my old mate big Duncan... He says he is daft but not stupid So is he still interested? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_A wehatethehibs Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 Just now, LeftBack said: Spoke to my old mate big Duncan... He says he is daft but not stupid I don’t necessarily think he would be a bad shout tbf but the point is about the fact that management is an entirely different animal to coaching. And especially this particular management job at this particular moment in time. The pressure cooker here is as intense as it’s been in years, the fans are absolutely fuming about how the club has been run into the ground and has he seen the absolute state of our squad? Whoever comes in as manager is not going to be doing much coaching, they are going to have to be making signing after signing starting with Center halves and Center mids, and fill basically 10 jerseys, only Gordon is up to standard I’d say. Maybe Kingsley. It is a colossal job and that’s before the coaching even starts. But I suppose there’s risk and reward, every chance he could come in and put himself right in the management mix. For me, I would favour someone who is up to speed with the division and has that track record of making good signings of players who have succeeded in the SPL someone who knows that formula. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Swanny17 Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 10 minutes ago, sadj said: This thread is bollocks FTFY 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadj Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 Just now, Swanny17 said: FTFY 👍 Hahaha indeed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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