Rudy T Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 1 minute ago, fast_blood said: I'd say it would be unlikely if anyone has been told they're going. If they think they are and are just going through the motions then they aren't worthy of playing for Hearts, nor will they get a move to a decent club. Not many of them are worthy of playing for Hearts regardless. It depends on what a decent club is too them I suppose, none appear to have much ambition. For me we have: Gordon Smith Kingsley McEneff GMS Boyce Gnando The rest can go, but that’s some rebuild again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex member of the SaS Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 Halkett is a cart horse and runs like his legs are tree stumps. Once more a season in transition and rebuild. We need a core to build on, a core that is permanent and is there every game, with better players added each season. Chopping and changing the team every game doesn't work as the players don't get to know each other. It's fine to tinker and give fringe players a chance BUT we need a main team that plays together regularly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudy T Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 3 minutes ago, The Apprentice said: Unless those players have something else lined up at the end of the season, they are playing for futures elsewhere so it wouldn't make sense to go through the motions surely? If they can't impress for Hearts in the Championship then they will struggle for a decent move. Well it looks to me like we have a squad full going through the motions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Apprentice Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 1 minute ago, Rudy T said: Well it looks to me like we have a squad full going through the motions. I agree and it will be interesting to see where some end up if/when they leave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bajthejambo Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 1 hour ago, 3fingersreid said: I like my centre half’s to win arial battles , he does that , doesn’t lose many to the centre forwards when competing I like them when tackling to take no prisoners, he does that hes got a decent bit of pace once he gets going and up until this season he chipped in with goals . What he needs is a partner beside him who’s not a ****ing bombscare Halkett is just fine for a centre half in the backwater football that is Scotland . Midfield creativity and particularly wingers with pace ,skill and the ability to cross the ball are a bigger issue Sorry, but I don't agree with any of that. He isn't at all dominating and looks unfit. I said to someone on Friday that he looked like a Sunday League player who had just turned up from a house party. Slow, uncomfortable on the ball and constantly chasing shadows. We conceded goals for fun last season and that hasn't really stopped in the Championship with a much better goalkeeper. Halkett is simply not good enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selkirkhmfc1874 Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 Big changes yet again this summer ! Unbelievable we in this situation yet again after the amount of players we brought in these last few seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BervieJambo Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 I’m getting fed up with them talking all the time, especially when it doesn’t match their actions on the pitch. Stop saying we want to be here, we’re going to do that, etc - just go out on the pitch and prove it. Personally I’d ban them from speaking to the press if possible - including Robbie - it just makes them look even more inept with a ball at their feet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTT Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 I would like to see our manager be confined to 3 senior signings in the summer. Rest should be youth players promoted up. We either show some commitment to our academy or bin it. The constant need to buy the finished article (which for our financial constraints means a bog standard faceless cast of thousands style journeyman that provides zero resale value) is hugely frustrating as our academy lads are better. Or at least were better in 2013. Shame we've seen **** all in 7 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grim Reaper Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 Ann Budge era players: (11 keepers) Neil Alexander Scott Gallacher Jack Hamilton Lee Hollis Viktor Noring Jon McLaughlin Zdenek Zlamal Colin Doyle Joel Pereira Craig Gordon Ross Stewart (36 defenders) Alim Ozturk Danny Wilson Adam Eckersley Kevin McHattie Brad McKay Blazej Augustyn John Souttar Callum Paterson Liam Smith Jordan McGhee Igor Rossi Faycal Rherras Krystian Nowak Andraz Struna Lennard Sowah Aaron Hughes Tasos Avlonitis Jamie Brandon Marcus Godinho Daniel Baur Juwon Oshinawa Christophe Berra Michael Smith Connor Randall Rafal Grzelak Demetri Mitchell Ashley Smith-Brown Ben Garuccio Clevid Dikamona Jimmy Dunne Conor Shaughnessy Aaron Hickey Craig Halkett Aidy White Mihai Popescu Stephen Kingsley (50 midfielders) Morgaro Gomis Billy King Miguel Pallardo El Hassnaoiu Jason Holt Kenny Anderson Scott Robinson Danny Swanson Jamie Walker Arnaud Djoum Don Cowie Perry Kitchen Sam Nicholson Prince Bauben Alexandros Tziolis Malaury Martin Choulay Dario Zanatta Dylan Bikey Euan Henderson Manuel Milinkovic Ross Callachan Harry Cochrane Lewis Moore Anthony McDonald Joaquim Adao Danny Amankwaa Andy Irving Alex Petkov Peter Haring Olly Lee Callumn Morrison Oliver Bozanic Sean Clare Jake Mulraney Bobby Burns Ryan Edwards Loic Damour Glen Whelan Ryataro Meshino Donis Avdijav Tony Sibbick Marcel Langer Jordan Roberts Elliott Frear Josh Ginnelly Andy Halliday Gary Mackay-Steven Aaron McEneff (26 forwards) Juanma James Keatings Osman Sow Genero Zeefuik Dale Carrick Gary Oliver Robbie Buchanan Gavin Reilly Bjorn Johnsen Conor Sammon Robbie Muirhead Isma Goncalves Tony Watt Rory Currie Angus Beith Kyle Lafferty Steven Naismith Cole Stockton Aidan Keena Steven MacLean Uche Ikpeazu Craig Wighton David Vanecek Conor Washington Liam Boyce Armand Gnanduillet (List copied from elsewhere) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamhammer Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 1 hour ago, Rizla said: We seem to go through this every other season. The recruitment is terrible. A lot of players signed that are way short of the standard we require at this club. it just goes on and on. we sign one good player then the next two or three are just not up to it. Yup. Wouldn’t it be Luvvly to go into a season and only have to recruit 2 quality players to improve your squad? Every window for years has been the same. Recruitment is, with a few exceptions appalling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niemi’s gloves Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, The Grim Reaper said: Ann Budge era players: (11 keepers) Neil Alexander Scott Gallacher Jack Hamilton Lee Hollis Viktor Noring Jon McLaughlin Zdenek Zlamal Colin Doyle Joel Pereira Craig Gordon Ross Stewart (36 defenders) Alim Ozturk Danny Wilson Adam Eckersley Kevin McHattie Brad McKay Blazej Augustyn John Souttar Callum Paterson Liam Smith Jordan McGhee Igor Rossi Faycal Rherras Krystian Nowak Andraz Struna Lennard Sowah Aaron Hughes Tasos Avlonitis Jamie Brandon Marcus Godinho Daniel Baur Juwon Oshinawa Christophe Berra Michael Smith Connor Randall Rafal Grzelak Demetri Mitchell Ashley Smith-Brown Ben Garuccio Clevid Dikamona Jimmy Dunne Conor Shaughnessy Aaron Hickey Craig Halkett Aidy White Mihai Popescu Stephen Kingsley (50 midfielders) Morgaro Gomis Billy King Miguel Pallardo El Hassnaoiu Jason Holt Kenny Anderson Scott Robinson Danny Swanson Jamie Walker Arnaud Djoum Don Cowie Perry Kitchen Sam Nicholson Prince Bauben Alexandros Tziolis Malaury Martin Choulay Dario Zanatta Dylan Bikey Euan Henderson Manuel Milinkovic Ross Callachan Harry Cochrane Lewis Moore Anthony McDonald Joaquim Adao Danny Amankwaa Andy Irving Alex Petkov Peter Haring Olly Lee Callumn Morrison Oliver Bozanic Sean Clare Jake Mulraney Bobby Burns Ryan Edwards Loic Damour Glen Whelan Ryataro Meshino Donis Avdijav Tony Sibbick Marcel Langer Jordan Roberts Elliott Frear Josh Ginnelly Andy Halliday Gary Mackay-Steven Aaron McEneff (26 forwards) Juanma James Keatings Osman Sow Genero Zeefuik Dale Carrick Gary Oliver Robbie Buchanan Gavin Reilly Bjorn Johnsen Conor Sammon Robbie Muirhead Isma Goncalves Tony Watt Rory Currie Angus Beith Kyle Lafferty Steven Naismith Cole Stockton Aidan Keena Steven MacLean Uche Ikpeazu Craig Wighton David Vanecek Conor Washington Liam Boyce Armand Gnanduillet (List copied from elsewhere) Sensible conclusion: commit more resources to making fewer signings. Tough on those on JKB who want ten “scarf over the head” pictures every signing window but a better chance of building a decent team - as opposed to a random bunch of individuals who collectively underperform their individual ability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ribble Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 1 hour ago, This is My Story Podcast said: Honestly, we need to break this culture at the club. It’s not acceptable to just write off the rubbish we see week in, week out by saying it’s gonna get better down the line. Something at the club isn’t working. Is it pressure from above and demand for results. Is savage under pressure? Is Robbie under pressure? Is the scouting department, recruitment team under pressure? How come Cathro, Levein, Stendel and now Robbie all get rebuilds sanctioned from the top brass. We’ve signed 98 players since Budge took over. We average 6 players a transfer window. That’s mental. Even more mental is when you factor in that we’ve maybe had 6 transfer fees across the board, Hickey and Sow the only transfer fees to write home about, although we did get money for Rossi that was supposedly worth a lot. We’ve had near 15 million pounds worth of benefactor monies over the years to cover holes in the funding. We need a proper strategic plan. We can’t just keep writing off seasons and half seasons in hope that rebuilds dig us out a hole. Correct, we have signed players that have proven themselves better than the level's we see from them and that has to come down to coaching, tactics or the clubs mentality. It's like we're the type of car owner that knows nothing about mechanics yet buys a load of shiny new parts every few months, chops and changes between their mate with a night class in basic mechanics and some guy that watches youtube tutorials to fit them and wonders why there is black smoke spouting out the back? Problem isn't the parts, the issues are with the person buying the parts and the person fitting them. Go out and get a proper mechanic and you will see an immediate improvement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berra than you Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 (edited) 24 minutes ago, The Grim Reaper said: Ann Budge era players: (11 keepers) Neil Alexander Scott Gallacher Jack Hamilton Lee Hollis Viktor Noring Jon McLaughlin Zdenek Zlamal Colin Doyle Joel Pereira Craig Gordon Ross Stewart (36 defenders) Alim Ozturk Danny Wilson Adam Eckersley Kevin McHattie Brad McKay Blazej Augustyn John Souttar Callum Paterson Liam Smith Jordan McGhee Igor Rossi Faycal Rherras Krystian Nowak Andraz Struna Lennard Sowah Aaron Hughes Tasos Avlonitis Jamie Brandon Marcus Godinho Daniel Baur Juwon Oshinawa Christophe Berra Michael Smith Connor Randall Rafal Grzelak Demetri Mitchell Ashley Smith-Brown Ben Garuccio Clevid Dikamona Jimmy Dunne Conor Shaughnessy Aaron Hickey Craig Halkett Aidy White Mihai Popescu Stephen Kingsley (50 midfielders) Morgaro Gomis Billy King Miguel Pallardo El Hassnaoiu Jason Holt Kenny Anderson Scott Robinson Danny Swanson Jamie Walker Arnaud Djoum Don Cowie Perry Kitchen Sam Nicholson Prince Bauben Alexandros Tziolis Malaury Martin Choulay Dario Zanatta Dylan Bikey Euan Henderson Manuel Milinkovic Ross Callachan Harry Cochrane Lewis Moore Anthony McDonald Joaquim Adao Danny Amankwaa Andy Irving Alex Petkov Peter Haring Olly Lee Callumn Morrison Oliver Bozanic Sean Clare Jake Mulraney Bobby Burns Ryan Edwards Loic Damour Glen Whelan Ryataro Meshino Donis Avdijav Tony Sibbick Marcel Langer Jordan Roberts Elliott Frear Josh Ginnelly Andy Halliday Gary Mackay-Steven Aaron McEneff (26 forwards) Juanma James Keatings Osman Sow Genero Zeefuik Dale Carrick Gary Oliver Robbie Buchanan Gavin Reilly Bjorn Johnsen Conor Sammon Robbie Muirhead Isma Goncalves Tony Watt Rory Currie Angus Beith Kyle Lafferty Steven Naismith Cole Stockton Aidan Keena Steven MacLean Uche Ikpeazu Craig Wighton David Vanecek Conor Washington Liam Boyce Armand Gnanduillet (List copied from elsewhere) Some list when you actually see it written out like that. I'd like to see a comparison of turnover with the likes of Hibs, Aberdeen, killie etc. I've no doubt ours is higher, be interesting to see by how much though. Not expected anyone to do it though, I certainly couldnt be bothered hahah. Edited March 1, 2021 by Berra than you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Section Q Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 2 hours ago, GinRummy said: If we can get two centre backs of the right quality in, I think that will make a hell of a big difference. I don't believe we ever needed two holding mids this season but if we had two decent centre backs I doubt we would have seen it. Full backs also having to do more defensive work than they should be this season. A fit Souttar and someone like young Jason Kerr from St Johnstone would make a good pairing. Both young and have lots to offer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted March 1, 2021 Author Share Posted March 1, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Section Q said: A fit Souttar and someone like young Jason Kerr from St Johnstone would make a good pairing. Both young and have lots to offer. Know nothing about Kerr but I mentioned up the page that i had forgotten all about Souttar. Be great to see him at his best again. Edited March 1, 2021 by GinRummy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveins Battalion Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 30 minutes ago, The Grim Reaper said: Ann Budge era players: (11 keepers) Neil Alexander Scott Gallacher Jack Hamilton Lee Hollis Viktor Noring Jon McLaughlin Zdenek Zlamal Colin Doyle Joel Pereira Craig Gordon Ross Stewart (36 defenders) Alim Ozturk Danny Wilson Adam Eckersley Kevin McHattie Brad McKay Blazej Augustyn John Souttar Callum Paterson Liam Smith Jordan McGhee Igor Rossi Faycal Rherras Krystian Nowak Andraz Struna Lennard Sowah Aaron Hughes Tasos Avlonitis Jamie Brandon Marcus Godinho Daniel Baur Juwon Oshinawa Christophe Berra Michael Smith Connor Randall Rafal Grzelak Demetri Mitchell Ashley Smith-Brown Ben Garuccio Clevid Dikamona Jimmy Dunne Conor Shaughnessy Aaron Hickey Craig Halkett Aidy White Mihai Popescu Stephen Kingsley (50 midfielders) Morgaro Gomis Billy King Miguel Pallardo El Hassnaoiu Jason Holt Kenny Anderson Scott Robinson Danny Swanson Jamie Walker Arnaud Djoum Don Cowie Perry Kitchen Sam Nicholson Prince Bauben Alexandros Tziolis Malaury Martin Choulay Dario Zanatta Dylan Bikey Euan Henderson Manuel Milinkovic Ross Callachan Harry Cochrane Lewis Moore Anthony McDonald Joaquim Adao Danny Amankwaa Andy Irving Alex Petkov Peter Haring Olly Lee Callumn Morrison Oliver Bozanic Sean Clare Jake Mulraney Bobby Burns Ryan Edwards Loic Damour Glen Whelan Ryataro Meshino Donis Avdijav Tony Sibbick Marcel Langer Jordan Roberts Elliott Frear Josh Ginnelly Andy Halliday Gary Mackay-Steven Aaron McEneff (26 forwards) Juanma James Keatings Osman Sow Genero Zeefuik Dale Carrick Gary Oliver Robbie Buchanan Gavin Reilly Bjorn Johnsen Conor Sammon Robbie Muirhead Isma Goncalves Tony Watt Rory Currie Angus Beith Kyle Lafferty Steven Naismith Cole Stockton Aidan Keena Steven MacLean Uche Ikpeazu Craig Wighton David Vanecek Conor Washington Liam Boyce Armand Gnanduillet (List copied from elsewhere) Wow 🤣🤣 that list gives me the fear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 34 minutes ago, The Grim Reaper said: Ann Budge era players: (11 keepers) Neil Alexander Scott Gallacher Jack Hamilton Lee Hollis Viktor Noring Jon McLaughlin Zdenek Zlamal Colin Doyle Joel Pereira Craig Gordon Ross Stewart (36 defenders) Alim Ozturk Danny Wilson Adam Eckersley Kevin McHattie Brad McKay Blazej Augustyn John Souttar Callum Paterson Liam Smith Jordan McGhee Igor Rossi Faycal Rherras Krystian Nowak Andraz Struna Lennard Sowah Aaron Hughes Tasos Avlonitis Jamie Brandon Marcus Godinho Daniel Baur Juwon Oshinawa Christophe Berra Michael Smith Connor Randall Rafal Grzelak Demetri Mitchell Ashley Smith-Brown Ben Garuccio Clevid Dikamona Jimmy Dunne Conor Shaughnessy Aaron Hickey Craig Halkett Aidy White Mihai Popescu Stephen Kingsley (50 midfielders) Morgaro Gomis Billy King Miguel Pallardo El Hassnaoiu Jason Holt Kenny Anderson Scott Robinson Danny Swanson Jamie Walker Arnaud Djoum Don Cowie Perry Kitchen Sam Nicholson Prince Bauben Alexandros Tziolis Malaury Martin Choulay Dario Zanatta Dylan Bikey Euan Henderson Manuel Milinkovic Ross Callachan Harry Cochrane Lewis Moore Anthony McDonald Joaquim Adao Danny Amankwaa Andy Irving Alex Petkov Peter Haring Olly Lee Callumn Morrison Oliver Bozanic Sean Clare Jake Mulraney Bobby Burns Ryan Edwards Loic Damour Glen Whelan Ryataro Meshino Donis Avdijav Tony Sibbick Marcel Langer Jordan Roberts Elliott Frear Josh Ginnelly Andy Halliday Gary Mackay-Steven Aaron McEneff (26 forwards) Juanma James Keatings Osman Sow Genero Zeefuik Dale Carrick Gary Oliver Robbie Buchanan Gavin Reilly Bjorn Johnsen Conor Sammon Robbie Muirhead Isma Goncalves Tony Watt Rory Currie Angus Beith Kyle Lafferty Steven Naismith Cole Stockton Aidan Keena Steven MacLean Uche Ikpeazu Craig Wighton David Vanecek Conor Washington Liam Boyce Armand Gnanduillet (List copied from elsewhere) We could all go through that and criticise or whatever but it is a fact that the modern game is very different with a lot more short term contracts, changing managers that leads to squad rebuilds and more loan deals. Still a horrific list though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clerry Jambo Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 2 hours ago, 3fingersreid said: I like my centre half’s to win arial battles , he does that , doesn’t lose many to the centre forwards when competing I like them when tackling to take no prisoners, he does that hes got a decent bit of pace once he gets going and up until this season he chipped in with goals . What he needs is a partner beside him who’s not a ****ing bombscare Halkett is just fine for a centre half in the backwater football that is Scotland . Midfield creativity and particularly wingers with pace ,skill and the ability to cross the ball are a bigger issue Spot on fingers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 16 minutes ago, Berra than you said: Some list when you actually see it written out like that. I'd like to see a comparison of turnover with the likes of Hibs, Aberdeen, killie etc. I've no doubt ours is higher, be interesting to see by how much though. Not expected anyone to do it though, I certainly couldnt be bothered hahah. I had a quixck look on Transfermarkt at Aberdeen's transfers over the same period (they are a club we see as being pretty consistent with a decent transfer policy, right?) and they have pretty much the same numbers. And that includes Curtis Main! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 2 hours ago, 3fingersreid said: I like my centre half’s to win arial battles , he does that , doesn’t lose many to the centre forwards when competing I like them when tackling to take no prisoners, he does that hes got a decent bit of pace once he gets going and up until this season he chipped in with goals . What he needs is a partner beside him who’s not a ****ing bombscare Halkett is just fine for a centre half in the backwater football that is Scotland . Midfield creativity and particularly wingers with pace ,skill and the ability to cross the ball are a bigger issue Yes, agree with this. We have to accept that, our level, no player is perfect and Halkett is good enough for us. I think Souttar returning is massive for us and Craig for next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo-Jambo Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 1 hour ago, This is My Story Podcast said: Yeah it’s not unreasonable to expect a rebuild of some sort this summer due to the reasons you’ve listed. However, Halliday, GMS, McEneff, Roberts etx weren’t all just brought to the club to get us out this league and this league only, hence why they got longer deals. So my point about just letting them go or what ever in the summer shouldn’t be a move that is just so easily taken, especially given the wages they’d be on etc. Not saying that’ll happen but I hope you get the point am trying to make. Also seen you comment further down the thread about needing 2 CB’s, I 100% agree. Halliday struggles in this league so God help him in the top league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ribble Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 25 minutes ago, Section Q said: A fit Souttar and someone like young Jason Kerr from St Johnstone would make a good pairing. Both young and have lots to offer. Kerr would definately be a good signing, i'd even consider Rooney as a challenger to Michael Smith at RB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3fingersreid Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 1 hour ago, bajthejambo said: Sorry, but I don't agree with any of that. He isn't at all dominating and looks unfit. I said to someone on Friday that he looked like a Sunday League player who had just turned up from a house party. Slow, uncomfortable on the ball and constantly chasing shadows. We conceded goals for fun last season and that hasn't really stopped in the Championship with a much better goalkeeper. Halkett is simply not good enough. All about opinions , but I don’t see him losing many challenges defensively Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locky Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 This only makes the 'Neilson out' crowd look a bit more knee-jerk and silly. I think we all know, or should at least, that this is nowhere near the finished article in terms of squad. Robbie inherited a lot of shite, and tried to clear as much as possible, but it's not as easy as just saying 'I want him gone'. Look at Damour for example. Just sat back taking a wage for **** all, and we can't even give him away. Robbie's 'style' is far from aesthetically pleasing with this squad, but I've said the same for weeks now, give it time, and give him a chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3fingersreid Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 16 minutes ago, Clerry Jambo said: Spot on fingers 11 minutes ago, Nookie Bear said: Yes, agree with this. We have to accept that, our level, no player is perfect and Halkett is good enough for us. I think Souttar returning is massive for us and Craig for next season. Cheers👍🏻 Thought I might have been more criticised than I have been 😬 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 4 minutes ago, Locky said: This only makes the 'Neilson out' crowd look a bit more knee-jerk and silly. I think we all know, or should at least, that this is nowhere near the finished article in terms of squad. Robbie inherited a lot of shite, and tried to clear as much as possible, but it's not as easy as just saying 'I want him gone'. Look at Damour for example. Just sat back taking a wage for **** all, and we can't even give him away. Robbie's 'style' is far from aesthetically pleasing with this squad, but I've said the same for weeks now, give it time, and give him a chance. Hardly. Not looking forward to another minibus full of wingers arriving in the summer, but we will see... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 2 hours ago, Harry Potter said: looks weird😧, i thought he was a great signing at the time but not grabbing his chance tbh. I mean in the way he moves, looks awkward - never fills me with confidence.. he isn’t good enough for hearts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 1 minute ago, kingantti1874 said: I mean in the way he moves, looks awkward - never fills me with confidence.. he isn’t good enough for hearts He is at the moment. we are a Championship club and probably midtable, bottom 6 next season. More than good enough for the next 18 months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo61 Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 3 hours ago, GinRummy said: I wonder if the fact players know they are on shaky ground could be affecting performances. It would freshen up the excuses! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunny Munro Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 My biggest fear going going forward is that there isn't a rebuild. I wouldn't be surprised if Robbie keeps Gordon, Smith, Halkett, Souttar, Kingsley, Haliday, McEneff, Walker, Naismith, GMS, Boyce and Gnando as first teamers. Possibly also Gino (if he gets fit), Roberts (if his loan goes OK), and Stewart as back up. Irving if he signs a deal. McGill and Cochrane back from their loans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue Daddy Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 1 hour ago, The Grim Reaper said: Ann Budge era players: (11 keepers) Neil Alexander Scott Gallacher Jack Hamilton Lee Hollis Viktor Noring Jon McLaughlin Zdenek Zlamal Colin Doyle Joel Pereira Craig Gordon Ross Stewart (36 defenders) Alim Ozturk Danny Wilson Adam Eckersley Kevin McHattie Brad McKay Blazej Augustyn John Souttar Callum Paterson Liam Smith Jordan McGhee Igor Rossi Faycal Rherras Krystian Nowak Andraz Struna Lennard Sowah Aaron Hughes Tasos Avlonitis Jamie Brandon Marcus Godinho Daniel Baur Juwon Oshinawa Christophe Berra Michael Smith Connor Randall Rafal Grzelak Demetri Mitchell Ashley Smith-Brown Ben Garuccio Clevid Dikamona Jimmy Dunne Conor Shaughnessy Aaron Hickey Craig Halkett Aidy White Mihai Popescu Stephen Kingsley (50 midfielders) Morgaro Gomis Billy King Miguel Pallardo El Hassnaoiu Jason Holt Kenny Anderson Scott Robinson Danny Swanson Jamie Walker Arnaud Djoum Don Cowie Perry Kitchen Sam Nicholson Prince Bauben Alexandros Tziolis Malaury Martin Choulay Dario Zanatta Dylan Bikey Euan Henderson Manuel Milinkovic Ross Callachan Harry Cochrane Lewis Moore Anthony McDonald Joaquim Adao Danny Amankwaa Andy Irving Alex Petkov Peter Haring Olly Lee Callumn Morrison Oliver Bozanic Sean Clare Jake Mulraney Bobby Burns Ryan Edwards Loic Damour Glen Whelan Ryataro Meshino Donis Avdijav Tony Sibbick Marcel Langer Jordan Roberts Elliott Frear Josh Ginnelly Andy Halliday Gary Mackay-Steven Aaron McEneff (26 forwards) Juanma James Keatings Osman Sow Genero Zeefuik Dale Carrick Gary Oliver Robbie Buchanan Gavin Reilly Bjorn Johnsen Conor Sammon Robbie Muirhead Isma Goncalves Tony Watt Rory Currie Angus Beith Kyle Lafferty Steven Naismith Cole Stockton Aidan Keena Steven MacLean Uche Ikpeazu Craig Wighton David Vanecek Conor Washington Liam Boyce Armand Gnanduillet (List copied from elsewhere) Yikes! There is literally 11 different teams there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo61 Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 28 minutes ago, Nookie Bear said: Yes, agree with this. We have to accept that, our level, no player is perfect and Halkett is good enough for us. I think Souttar returning is massive for us and Craig for next season. I had to read that twice, I thought for a minute Levein was coming back! New pants required! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartmussel Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 46 minutes ago, Section Q said: A fit Souttar and someone like young Jason Kerr from St Johnstone would make a good pairing. Both young and have lots to offer. I believe Kerr is one of Hibs main targets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 1 minute ago, Jambo61 said: I had to read that twice, I thought for a minute Levein was coming back! New pants required! Too soon for those kinds of jokes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 1 hour ago, This is My Story Podcast said: Yeah it’s not unreasonable to expect a rebuild of some sort this summer due to the reasons you’ve listed. However, Halliday, GMS, McEneff, Roberts etx weren’t all just brought to the club to get us out this league and this league only, hence why they got longer deals. So my point about just letting them go or what ever in the summer shouldn’t be a move that is just so easily taken, especially given the wages they’d be on etc. Not saying that’ll happen but I hope you get the point am trying to make. Also seen you comment further down the thread about needing 2 CB’s, I 100% agree. I agree, the transfers he's made are with next season in mind. We'll lose a few tho and need a better squad of around 20 imo, hopefully with a few youngsters to boost it out a bit. I can see at least 6 in, maybe as much as 10 giving the numbers we shed last summer and will do again this summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 1 hour ago, The Grim Reaper said: Ann Budge era players: (11 keepers) Neil Alexander Scott Gallacher Jack Hamilton Lee Hollis Viktor Noring Jon McLaughlin Zdenek Zlamal Colin Doyle Joel Pereira Craig Gordon Ross Stewart (36 defenders) Alim Ozturk Danny Wilson Adam Eckersley Kevin McHattie Brad McKay Blazej Augustyn John Souttar Callum Paterson Liam Smith Jordan McGhee Igor Rossi Faycal Rherras Krystian Nowak Andraz Struna Lennard Sowah Aaron Hughes Tasos Avlonitis Jamie Brandon Marcus Godinho Daniel Baur Juwon Oshinawa Christophe Berra Michael Smith Connor Randall Rafal Grzelak Demetri Mitchell Ashley Smith-Brown Ben Garuccio Clevid Dikamona Jimmy Dunne Conor Shaughnessy Aaron Hickey Craig Halkett Aidy White Mihai Popescu Stephen Kingsley (50 midfielders) Morgaro Gomis Billy King Miguel Pallardo El Hassnaoiu Jason Holt Kenny Anderson Scott Robinson Danny Swanson Jamie Walker Arnaud Djoum Don Cowie Perry Kitchen Sam Nicholson Prince Bauben Alexandros Tziolis Malaury Martin Choulay Dario Zanatta Dylan Bikey Euan Henderson Manuel Milinkovic Ross Callachan Harry Cochrane Lewis Moore Anthony McDonald Joaquim Adao Danny Amankwaa Andy Irving Alex Petkov Peter Haring Olly Lee Callumn Morrison Oliver Bozanic Sean Clare Jake Mulraney Bobby Burns Ryan Edwards Loic Damour Glen Whelan Ryataro Meshino Donis Avdijav Tony Sibbick Marcel Langer Jordan Roberts Elliott Frear Josh Ginnelly Andy Halliday Gary Mackay-Steven Aaron McEneff (26 forwards) Juanma James Keatings Osman Sow Genero Zeefuik Dale Carrick Gary Oliver Robbie Buchanan Gavin Reilly Bjorn Johnsen Conor Sammon Robbie Muirhead Isma Goncalves Tony Watt Rory Currie Angus Beith Kyle Lafferty Steven Naismith Cole Stockton Aidan Keena Steven MacLean Uche Ikpeazu Craig Wighton David Vanecek Conor Washington Liam Boyce Armand Gnanduillet (List copied from elsewhere) Means nothing without context to other teams tho. Is that a lot, average for a team, or less tha average in terms of turnover. It looks horrendous, but without context hard to judge imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 Budge doesn’t hold anyone accountable for anything so I wouldn’t worry lads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forza Cuore Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 2 hours ago, Cruyff said: Yeah, i suppose Halliday can do that role. Defo need a RB to challenge Smith and a long term successor. Halliday couldn't do a chip roll. He's shite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 4 minutes ago, Forza Cuore said: Halliday couldn't do a chip roll. He's shite. to be fair to him, his best game for us was at LB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auldbenches Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 Wouldn't it have been better to have two or three on pre contracts if a rebuild is needed to get them in early for pre season? We could be spending precious time looking for the players that we need. I'll be disappointed if we aren't signing most of the players we need as soon as we can rather than just as the season is starting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagger Is Back Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 3 hours ago, GinRummy said: Players' futures on the line at Hearts as Craig Halkett explains long-term thinking With more squad restructuring planned this summer, some Hearts players may only have a few games left in maroon. There are nine Championship fixtures remaining following Friday night’s draw in Inverness. Those who want to play with the Edinburgh club in next season’s Premiership know there are limited chances to impress. Frustrations are increasing after three successive 1-1 draws against Queen of the South, Morton and Inverness. Hearts remain 12 points clear at the top of the league but second-placed Raith Rovers have two matches in hand. Manager Robbie Neilson will look to recruit in several positions if his team achieve promotion and current incumbents are understandably wary. Defender Craig Halkett said futures are on line ahead of next season. “Everyone knows that we are playing for our futures here. The manager has brought people in this season to do a job and get the team back into the Premiership,” he said. “He has said before that he wants to strengthen the squad again, so everyone should feel we are playing for our future and prove that they are good enough to be here next season. “Individually we all know what the job is and that’s to win this league and get the club back to where it belongs in the Premiership. It is a shorter season this year, we only have nine games left. “We know we have to win games to get over the line. I don’t think there is more pressure on us or anything like that, we just know ourselves we have to do better. “We haven’t won enough games of late and we need to change that and prove to ourselves that we can do that.” A 12-point lead with nine games left is nonetheless a decent cushion, even if there are arguments that it should be greater. “We knew we were the biggest team in the league at the start of the season,” said Halkett. “For me, we should be in the Premiership and challenging for the top six and top four. That’s where we feel we should be as a club. To go and win the league comfortably was the aim. “We have a lead at the top of the table and from now until the end of the season we want to win as many games as we can to wrap it up as quickly as we can “In football, nothing is a given and we know we have to prove that we are good enough players to go and do that. That’s a challenge and we have to rise to it.” Their efforts have been undermined by losing the first goal in each of their last three games. Miles Storey put Inverness ahead on Friday before Halkett climbed to nod Aaron McEneff’s cross downwards for Liam Boyce to equalise. “It goes back to us giving teams a head start and then we need to score two to win the game. It isn’t good enough from our point of view. We had a chat after the Inverness game and we said that we have to start games better from now on.” Blah blah blah. Well you sure as hell could have fooled me Craig - playing for your futures. About time you all showed up then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 59 minutes ago, Section Q said: A fit Souttar and someone like young Jason Kerr from St Johnstone would make a good pairing. Both young and have lots to offer. Defo need to push the boat out for a good Centerhalf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 1 hour ago, BervieJambo said: I’m getting fed up with them talking all the time, especially when it doesn’t match their actions on the pitch. Stop saying we want to be here, we’re going to do that, etc - just go out on the pitch and prove it. Personally I’d ban them from speaking to the press if possible - including Robbie - it just makes them look even more inept with a ball at their feet. This has been a problem for about three years now. Players/coaches/ownership talking their talk and then not delivering. Look at that piece Neilson did a while back about the style of football he wants to play. Then look at the style of play we’re actually getting, in a league where no club poses any threat to us. The club survives on spin and too many fans are daft enough to swallow it. Berra being welcomed back into the fold tells your everything you need to know about this holiday camp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EIEIO Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 1 hour ago, Jamhammer said: Yup. Wouldn’t it be Luvvly to go into a season and only have to recruit 2 quality players to improve your squad? Every window for years has been the same. Recruitment is, with a few exceptions appalling Can't disagree, nobody can , but am I being hopelessly optimistic in saying Gnaduillet and McEneff are looking like good signings? My point being Joe Savage starting to have influence in the recruitment. I may be clutching at straws though. Gordon, Smith , Boyce, Kingsley are decent Premiership players GMS and Walker keep, plus a fit again Souttar, Gnaduillet and McEneff. This would give us the good basis of a top half Premiership squad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berra than you Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 50 minutes ago, Nookie Bear said: I had a quixck look on Transfermarkt at Aberdeen's transfers over the same period (they are a club we see as being pretty consistent with a decent transfer policy, right?) and they have pretty much the same numbers. And that includes Curtis Main! Well there we go. I have to say that's surprised me somewhat but just goes to show you need all the info before making a judgement. Also in fairness, the number of players signed at the start of budges reign was forced. Likewise, I think that list of players shouldn't include players at the club when she took over, or player that came through the academy as these are not transfers, albeit they are 'players used'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo-Jambo Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 1 hour ago, Selkirkhmfc1874 said: Big changes yet again this summer ! Unbelievable we in this situation yet again after the amount of players we brought in these last few seasons. It really is. To have a half decent season next year is going to be a virtual rebuild with only a handful you would keep from the current squad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointon Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 1 hour ago, The Grim Reaper said: Ann Budge era players: (11 keepers) Neil Alexander Scott Gallacher Jack Hamilton Lee Hollis Viktor Noring Jon McLaughlin Zdenek Zlamal Colin Doyle Joel Pereira Craig Gordon Ross Stewart (36 defenders) Alim Ozturk Danny Wilson Adam Eckersley Kevin McHattie Brad McKay Blazej Augustyn John Souttar Callum Paterson Liam Smith Jordan McGhee Igor Rossi Faycal Rherras Krystian Nowak Andraz Struna Lennard Sowah Aaron Hughes Tasos Avlonitis Jamie Brandon Marcus Godinho Daniel Baur Juwon Oshinawa Christophe Berra Michael Smith Connor Randall Rafal Grzelak Demetri Mitchell Ashley Smith-Brown Ben Garuccio Clevid Dikamona Jimmy Dunne Conor Shaughnessy Aaron Hickey Craig Halkett Aidy White Mihai Popescu Stephen Kingsley (50 midfielders) Morgaro Gomis Billy King Miguel Pallardo El Hassnaoiu Jason Holt Kenny Anderson Scott Robinson Danny Swanson Jamie Walker Arnaud Djoum Don Cowie Perry Kitchen Sam Nicholson Prince Bauben Alexandros Tziolis Malaury Martin Choulay Dario Zanatta Dylan Bikey Euan Henderson Manuel Milinkovic Ross Callachan Harry Cochrane Lewis Moore Anthony McDonald Joaquim Adao Danny Amankwaa Andy Irving Alex Petkov Peter Haring Olly Lee Callumn Morrison Oliver Bozanic Sean Clare Jake Mulraney Bobby Burns Ryan Edwards Loic Damour Glen Whelan Ryataro Meshino Donis Avdijav Tony Sibbick Marcel Langer Jordan Roberts Elliott Frear Josh Ginnelly Andy Halliday Gary Mackay-Steven Aaron McEneff (26 forwards) Juanma James Keatings Osman Sow Genero Zeefuik Dale Carrick Gary Oliver Robbie Buchanan Gavin Reilly Bjorn Johnsen Conor Sammon Robbie Muirhead Isma Goncalves Tony Watt Rory Currie Angus Beith Kyle Lafferty Steven Naismith Cole Stockton Aidan Keena Steven MacLean Uche Ikpeazu Craig Wighton David Vanecek Conor Washington Liam Boyce Armand Gnanduillet (List copied from elsewhere) That is absolutely frightening Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 45 minutes ago, Robbo-Jambo said: Halliday struggles in this league so God help him in the top league. Just pleased we only gave him two years. Will be difficult to move in the summer but at least it’s not a four year special Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo61 Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, Robbo-Jambo said: It really is. To have a half decent season next year is going to be a virtual rebuild with only a handful you would keep from the current squad. And getting it right!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ainsley Harriott Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 Have we not had about 4 clear outs in the last 5 years? Trouble is the usual self-preservationists will be doubt survive and continue to rot our club like a wage stealing cancer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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