Jump to content

Mass clear out?


GinRummy

Recommended Posts

1 minute ago, fast_blood said:

I'd say it would be unlikely if anyone has been told they're going. If they think they are and are just going through the motions then they aren't worthy of playing for Hearts, nor will they get a move to a decent club. 


Not many of them are worthy of playing for Hearts regardless. It depends on what a decent club is too them I suppose, none appear to have much ambition.

 

For me we have:

 

Gordon

Smith

Kingsley 

McEneff
GMS

Boyce

Gnando

 

The rest can go, but that’s some rebuild again.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Replies 491
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

  • GinRummy

    50

  • soonbe110

    31

  • Dusk_Till_Dawn

    27

  • JamboAl

    21

Top Posters In This Topic

Posted Images

Ex member of the SaS

Halkett is a cart horse and runs like his legs are tree stumps.

Once more a season in transition and rebuild. We need a core to build on, a core that is permanent and is there every game, with better players added each season. Chopping and changing the team every game doesn't work as the players don't get to know each other. It's fine to tinker and give fringe players a chance BUT we need a main team that plays together regularly.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

3 minutes ago, The Apprentice said:

Unless those players have something else lined up at the end of the season, they are playing for futures elsewhere so it wouldn't make sense to go through the motions surely? If they can't impress for Hearts in the Championship then they will struggle for a decent move.


Well it looks to me like we have a squad full going through the motions.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

The Apprentice
1 minute ago, Rudy T said:


Well it looks to me like we have a squad full going through the motions.

I agree and it will be interesting to see where some end up if/when they leave. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

bajthejambo
1 hour ago, 3fingersreid said:

I like my centre half’s to win arial battles , he does that , doesn’t lose many to the centre forwards when competing 

I like them when tackling to take no prisoners, he does that

hes got a decent bit of pace once he gets going and up until this season he chipped in with goals .

What he needs is a partner beside him who’s not a ****ing bombscare 

Halkett is just fine for a centre half in the backwater football that is Scotland .

Midfield creativity and particularly wingers with pace ,skill and the ability to cross the ball are a bigger issue 

 

Sorry, but I don't agree with any of that. He isn't at all dominating and looks unfit. I said to someone on Friday that he looked like a Sunday League player who had just turned up from a house party. 

 

Slow, uncomfortable on the ball and constantly chasing shadows. 

 

We conceded goals for fun last season and that hasn't really stopped in the Championship with a much better goalkeeper. Halkett is simply not good enough.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Selkirkhmfc1874

Big changes yet again this summer ! Unbelievable we in this situation yet again after the amount of players we brought in these last few seasons. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

BervieJambo

I’m getting fed up with them talking all the time, especially when it doesn’t match their actions on the pitch. Stop saying we want to be here, we’re going to do that, etc - just go out on the pitch and prove it. Personally I’d ban them from speaking to the press if possible - including Robbie - it just makes them look even more inept with a ball at their feet.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I would like to see our manager be confined to 3 senior signings in the summer. Rest should be youth players promoted up. 

 

We either show some commitment to our academy or bin it. The constant need to buy the finished article (which for our financial constraints means a bog standard faceless cast of thousands style journeyman that provides zero resale value) is hugely frustrating as our academy lads are better. Or at least were better in 2013. Shame we've seen **** all in 7 years. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

The Grim Reaper

Ann Budge era players:

 

(11 keepers)
Neil Alexander
Scott Gallacher
Jack Hamilton
Lee Hollis
Viktor Noring
Jon McLaughlin
Zdenek Zlamal
Colin Doyle
Joel Pereira
Craig Gordon 
Ross Stewart


(36 defenders)
Alim Ozturk
Danny Wilson
Adam Eckersley
Kevin McHattie
Brad McKay
Blazej Augustyn
John Souttar
Callum Paterson
Liam Smith 
Jordan McGhee
Igor Rossi
Faycal Rherras
Krystian Nowak
Andraz Struna
Lennard Sowah
Aaron Hughes
Tasos Avlonitis
Jamie Brandon
Marcus Godinho
Daniel Baur
Juwon Oshinawa
Christophe Berra
Michael Smith
Connor Randall
Rafal Grzelak
Demetri Mitchell
Ashley Smith-Brown
Ben Garuccio
Clevid Dikamona
Jimmy Dunne
Conor Shaughnessy
Aaron Hickey
Craig Halkett
Aidy White
Mihai Popescu 
Stephen Kingsley


(50 midfielders) 
Morgaro Gomis
Billy King
Miguel Pallardo
El Hassnaoiu
Jason Holt
Kenny Anderson
Scott Robinson
Danny Swanson
Jamie Walker
Arnaud Djoum
Don Cowie
Perry Kitchen 
Sam Nicholson
Prince Bauben
Alexandros Tziolis
Malaury Martin
Choulay
Dario Zanatta
Dylan Bikey
Euan Henderson
Manuel Milinkovic
Ross Callachan
Harry Cochrane
Lewis Moore
Anthony McDonald
Joaquim Adao
Danny Amankwaa
Andy Irving
Alex Petkov
Peter Haring
Olly Lee
Callumn Morrison
Oliver Bozanic
Sean Clare 
Jake Mulraney
Bobby Burns
Ryan Edwards
Loic Damour
Glen Whelan
Ryataro Meshino
Donis Avdijav 
Tony Sibbick 
Marcel Langer
Jordan Roberts
Elliott Frear
Josh Ginnelly
Andy Halliday
Gary Mackay-Steven
Aaron McEneff


(26 forwards)
Juanma
James Keatings
Osman Sow
Genero Zeefuik
Dale Carrick
Gary Oliver
Robbie Buchanan
Gavin Reilly
Bjorn Johnsen
Conor Sammon
Robbie Muirhead
Isma Goncalves
Tony Watt
Rory Currie
Angus Beith
Kyle Lafferty
Steven Naismith
Cole Stockton
Aidan Keena
Steven MacLean
Uche Ikpeazu
Craig Wighton
David Vanecek
Conor Washington
Liam Boyce 
Armand Gnanduillet

 

(List copied from elsewhere)

Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, Rizla said:

We seem to go through this every other season. The recruitment is terrible. A lot of players signed that are way short of the standard we require at this club.

it just goes on and on.

we sign one good player then the next two or three are just not up to it.

Yup. Wouldn’t it be Luvvly to go into a season and only have to recruit 2 quality players to improve your squad?

Every window for years has been the same. Recruitment is, with a few exceptions appalling

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Niemi’s gloves
2 minutes ago, The Grim Reaper said:

Ann Budge era players:

 

(11 keepers)
Neil Alexander
Scott Gallacher
Jack Hamilton
Lee Hollis
Viktor Noring
Jon McLaughlin
Zdenek Zlamal
Colin Doyle
Joel Pereira
Craig Gordon 
Ross Stewart


(36 defenders)
Alim Ozturk
Danny Wilson
Adam Eckersley
Kevin McHattie
Brad McKay
Blazej Augustyn
John Souttar
Callum Paterson
Liam Smith 
Jordan McGhee
Igor Rossi
Faycal Rherras
Krystian Nowak
Andraz Struna
Lennard Sowah
Aaron Hughes
Tasos Avlonitis
Jamie Brandon
Marcus Godinho
Daniel Baur
Juwon Oshinawa
Christophe Berra
Michael Smith
Connor Randall
Rafal Grzelak
Demetri Mitchell
Ashley Smith-Brown
Ben Garuccio
Clevid Dikamona
Jimmy Dunne
Conor Shaughnessy
Aaron Hickey
Craig Halkett
Aidy White
Mihai Popescu 
Stephen Kingsley


(50 midfielders) 
Morgaro Gomis
Billy King
Miguel Pallardo
El Hassnaoiu
Jason Holt
Kenny Anderson
Scott Robinson
Danny Swanson
Jamie Walker
Arnaud Djoum
Don Cowie
Perry Kitchen 
Sam Nicholson
Prince Bauben
Alexandros Tziolis
Malaury Martin
Choulay
Dario Zanatta
Dylan Bikey
Euan Henderson
Manuel Milinkovic
Ross Callachan
Harry Cochrane
Lewis Moore
Anthony McDonald
Joaquim Adao
Danny Amankwaa
Andy Irving
Alex Petkov
Peter Haring
Olly Lee
Callumn Morrison
Oliver Bozanic
Sean Clare 
Jake Mulraney
Bobby Burns
Ryan Edwards
Loic Damour
Glen Whelan
Ryataro Meshino
Donis Avdijav 
Tony Sibbick 
Marcel Langer
Jordan Roberts
Elliott Frear
Josh Ginnelly
Andy Halliday
Gary Mackay-Steven
Aaron McEneff


(26 forwards)
Juanma
James Keatings
Osman Sow
Genero Zeefuik
Dale Carrick
Gary Oliver
Robbie Buchanan
Gavin Reilly
Bjorn Johnsen
Conor Sammon
Robbie Muirhead
Isma Goncalves
Tony Watt
Rory Currie
Angus Beith
Kyle Lafferty
Steven Naismith
Cole Stockton
Aidan Keena
Steven MacLean
Uche Ikpeazu
Craig Wighton
David Vanecek
Conor Washington
Liam Boyce 
Armand Gnanduillet

 

(List copied from elsewhere)


Sensible conclusion: commit more resources to making fewer signings. Tough on those on JKB who want ten “scarf over the head” pictures every signing window but a better chance of building a decent team - as opposed to a random bunch of individuals who collectively underperform their individual ability.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, This is My Story Podcast said:

Honestly, we need to break this culture at the club. It’s not acceptable to just write off the rubbish we see week in, week out by saying it’s gonna get better down the line. Something at the club isn’t working. Is it pressure from above and demand for results. Is savage under pressure? Is Robbie under pressure? Is the scouting department, recruitment team under pressure? How come Cathro, Levein, Stendel and now Robbie all get rebuilds sanctioned from the top brass. We’ve signed 98 players since Budge took over. We average 6 players a transfer window. That’s mental. Even more mental is when you factor in that we’ve maybe had 6 transfer fees across the board, Hickey and Sow the only transfer fees to write home about, although we did get money for Rossi that was supposedly worth a lot. We’ve had near 15 million pounds worth of benefactor monies over the years to cover holes in the funding. We need a proper strategic plan. We can’t just keep writing off seasons and half seasons in hope that rebuilds dig us out a hole. 

 

Correct, we have signed players that have proven themselves better than the level's we see from them and that has to come down to coaching, tactics or the clubs mentality.

 

It's like we're the type of car owner that knows nothing about mechanics yet buys a load of shiny new parts every few months, chops and changes between their mate with a night class in basic mechanics and some guy that watches youtube tutorials to fit them and wonders why there is black smoke spouting out the back? Problem isn't the parts, the issues are with the person buying the parts and the person fitting them. Go out and get a proper mechanic and you will see an immediate improvement.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Berra than you
24 minutes ago, The Grim Reaper said:

Ann Budge era players:

 

(11 keepers)
Neil Alexander
Scott Gallacher
Jack Hamilton
Lee Hollis
Viktor Noring
Jon McLaughlin
Zdenek Zlamal
Colin Doyle
Joel Pereira
Craig Gordon 
Ross Stewart


(36 defenders)
Alim Ozturk
Danny Wilson
Adam Eckersley
Kevin McHattie
Brad McKay
Blazej Augustyn
John Souttar
Callum Paterson
Liam Smith 
Jordan McGhee
Igor Rossi
Faycal Rherras
Krystian Nowak
Andraz Struna
Lennard Sowah
Aaron Hughes
Tasos Avlonitis
Jamie Brandon
Marcus Godinho
Daniel Baur
Juwon Oshinawa
Christophe Berra
Michael Smith
Connor Randall
Rafal Grzelak
Demetri Mitchell
Ashley Smith-Brown
Ben Garuccio
Clevid Dikamona
Jimmy Dunne
Conor Shaughnessy
Aaron Hickey
Craig Halkett
Aidy White
Mihai Popescu 
Stephen Kingsley


(50 midfielders) 
Morgaro Gomis
Billy King
Miguel Pallardo
El Hassnaoiu
Jason Holt
Kenny Anderson
Scott Robinson
Danny Swanson
Jamie Walker
Arnaud Djoum
Don Cowie
Perry Kitchen 
Sam Nicholson
Prince Bauben
Alexandros Tziolis
Malaury Martin
Choulay
Dario Zanatta
Dylan Bikey
Euan Henderson
Manuel Milinkovic
Ross Callachan
Harry Cochrane
Lewis Moore
Anthony McDonald
Joaquim Adao
Danny Amankwaa
Andy Irving
Alex Petkov
Peter Haring
Olly Lee
Callumn Morrison
Oliver Bozanic
Sean Clare 
Jake Mulraney
Bobby Burns
Ryan Edwards
Loic Damour
Glen Whelan
Ryataro Meshino
Donis Avdijav 
Tony Sibbick 
Marcel Langer
Jordan Roberts
Elliott Frear
Josh Ginnelly
Andy Halliday
Gary Mackay-Steven
Aaron McEneff


(26 forwards)
Juanma
James Keatings
Osman Sow
Genero Zeefuik
Dale Carrick
Gary Oliver
Robbie Buchanan
Gavin Reilly
Bjorn Johnsen
Conor Sammon
Robbie Muirhead
Isma Goncalves
Tony Watt
Rory Currie
Angus Beith
Kyle Lafferty
Steven Naismith
Cole Stockton
Aidan Keena
Steven MacLean
Uche Ikpeazu
Craig Wighton
David Vanecek
Conor Washington
Liam Boyce 
Armand Gnanduillet

 

(List copied from elsewhere)

Some list when you actually see it written out like that. I'd like to see a comparison of turnover with the likes of Hibs, Aberdeen, killie etc. I've no doubt ours is higher, be interesting to see by how much though. Not expected anyone to do it though, I certainly couldnt be bothered hahah.

Edited by Berra than you
Link to comment
Share on other sites

2 hours ago, GinRummy said:

If we can get two centre backs of the right quality in, I think that will make a hell of a big difference. I don't believe we ever needed two holding mids this season but if we had two decent centre backs I doubt we would have seen it. Full backs also having to do more defensive work than they should be this season.

A fit Souttar and someone like young Jason Kerr from St Johnstone would make a good pairing. Both young and have lots to offer.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

5 minutes ago, Section Q said:

A fit Souttar and someone like young Jason Kerr from St Johnstone would make a good pairing. Both young and have lots to offer.

Know nothing about Kerr but I mentioned up the page that i had forgotten all about Souttar. Be great to see him at his best again.

Edited by GinRummy
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Leveins Battalion
30 minutes ago, The Grim Reaper said:

Ann Budge era players:

 

(11 keepers)
Neil Alexander
Scott Gallacher
Jack Hamilton
Lee Hollis
Viktor Noring
Jon McLaughlin
Zdenek Zlamal
Colin Doyle
Joel Pereira
Craig Gordon 
Ross Stewart


(36 defenders)
Alim Ozturk
Danny Wilson
Adam Eckersley
Kevin McHattie
Brad McKay
Blazej Augustyn
John Souttar
Callum Paterson
Liam Smith 
Jordan McGhee
Igor Rossi
Faycal Rherras
Krystian Nowak
Andraz Struna
Lennard Sowah
Aaron Hughes
Tasos Avlonitis
Jamie Brandon
Marcus Godinho
Daniel Baur
Juwon Oshinawa
Christophe Berra
Michael Smith
Connor Randall
Rafal Grzelak
Demetri Mitchell
Ashley Smith-Brown
Ben Garuccio
Clevid Dikamona
Jimmy Dunne
Conor Shaughnessy
Aaron Hickey
Craig Halkett
Aidy White
Mihai Popescu 
Stephen Kingsley


(50 midfielders) 
Morgaro Gomis
Billy King
Miguel Pallardo
El Hassnaoiu
Jason Holt
Kenny Anderson
Scott Robinson
Danny Swanson
Jamie Walker
Arnaud Djoum
Don Cowie
Perry Kitchen 
Sam Nicholson
Prince Bauben
Alexandros Tziolis
Malaury Martin
Choulay
Dario Zanatta
Dylan Bikey
Euan Henderson
Manuel Milinkovic
Ross Callachan
Harry Cochrane
Lewis Moore
Anthony McDonald
Joaquim Adao
Danny Amankwaa
Andy Irving
Alex Petkov
Peter Haring
Olly Lee
Callumn Morrison
Oliver Bozanic
Sean Clare 
Jake Mulraney
Bobby Burns
Ryan Edwards
Loic Damour
Glen Whelan
Ryataro Meshino
Donis Avdijav 
Tony Sibbick 
Marcel Langer
Jordan Roberts
Elliott Frear
Josh Ginnelly
Andy Halliday
Gary Mackay-Steven
Aaron McEneff


(26 forwards)
Juanma
James Keatings
Osman Sow
Genero Zeefuik
Dale Carrick
Gary Oliver
Robbie Buchanan
Gavin Reilly
Bjorn Johnsen
Conor Sammon
Robbie Muirhead
Isma Goncalves
Tony Watt
Rory Currie
Angus Beith
Kyle Lafferty
Steven Naismith
Cole Stockton
Aidan Keena
Steven MacLean
Uche Ikpeazu
Craig Wighton
David Vanecek
Conor Washington
Liam Boyce 
Armand Gnanduillet

 

(List copied from elsewhere)

Wow 🤣🤣

 

that list gives me the fear.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Nookie Bear
34 minutes ago, The Grim Reaper said:

Ann Budge era players:

 

(11 keepers)
Neil Alexander
Scott Gallacher
Jack Hamilton
Lee Hollis
Viktor Noring
Jon McLaughlin
Zdenek Zlamal
Colin Doyle
Joel Pereira
Craig Gordon 
Ross Stewart


(36 defenders)
Alim Ozturk
Danny Wilson
Adam Eckersley
Kevin McHattie
Brad McKay
Blazej Augustyn
John Souttar
Callum Paterson
Liam Smith 
Jordan McGhee
Igor Rossi
Faycal Rherras
Krystian Nowak
Andraz Struna
Lennard Sowah
Aaron Hughes
Tasos Avlonitis
Jamie Brandon
Marcus Godinho
Daniel Baur
Juwon Oshinawa
Christophe Berra
Michael Smith
Connor Randall
Rafal Grzelak
Demetri Mitchell
Ashley Smith-Brown
Ben Garuccio
Clevid Dikamona
Jimmy Dunne
Conor Shaughnessy
Aaron Hickey
Craig Halkett
Aidy White
Mihai Popescu 
Stephen Kingsley


(50 midfielders) 
Morgaro Gomis
Billy King
Miguel Pallardo
El Hassnaoiu
Jason Holt
Kenny Anderson
Scott Robinson
Danny Swanson
Jamie Walker
Arnaud Djoum
Don Cowie
Perry Kitchen 
Sam Nicholson
Prince Bauben
Alexandros Tziolis
Malaury Martin
Choulay
Dario Zanatta
Dylan Bikey
Euan Henderson
Manuel Milinkovic
Ross Callachan
Harry Cochrane
Lewis Moore
Anthony McDonald
Joaquim Adao
Danny Amankwaa
Andy Irving
Alex Petkov
Peter Haring
Olly Lee
Callumn Morrison
Oliver Bozanic
Sean Clare 
Jake Mulraney
Bobby Burns
Ryan Edwards
Loic Damour
Glen Whelan
Ryataro Meshino
Donis Avdijav 
Tony Sibbick 
Marcel Langer
Jordan Roberts
Elliott Frear
Josh Ginnelly
Andy Halliday
Gary Mackay-Steven
Aaron McEneff


(26 forwards)
Juanma
James Keatings
Osman Sow
Genero Zeefuik
Dale Carrick
Gary Oliver
Robbie Buchanan
Gavin Reilly
Bjorn Johnsen
Conor Sammon
Robbie Muirhead
Isma Goncalves
Tony Watt
Rory Currie
Angus Beith
Kyle Lafferty
Steven Naismith
Cole Stockton
Aidan Keena
Steven MacLean
Uche Ikpeazu
Craig Wighton
David Vanecek
Conor Washington
Liam Boyce 
Armand Gnanduillet

 

(List copied from elsewhere)

 

We could all go through that and criticise or whatever but it is a fact that the modern game is very different with a lot more short term contracts, changing managers that leads to squad rebuilds and more loan deals.

 

Still a horrific list though!

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Clerry Jambo
2 hours ago, 3fingersreid said:

I like my centre half’s to win arial battles , he does that , doesn’t lose many to the centre forwards when competing 

I like them when tackling to take no prisoners, he does that

hes got a decent bit of pace once he gets going and up until this season he chipped in with goals .

What he needs is a partner beside him who’s not a ****ing bombscare 

Halkett is just fine for a centre half in the backwater football that is Scotland .

Midfield creativity and particularly wingers with pace ,skill and the ability to cross the ball are a bigger issue 

Spot on fingers 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Nookie Bear
16 minutes ago, Berra than you said:

Some list when you actually see it written out like that. I'd like to see a comparison of turnover with the likes of Hibs, Aberdeen, killie etc. I've no doubt ours is higher, be interesting to see by how much though. Not expected anyone to do it though, I certainly couldnt be bothered hahah.

 

I had a quixck look on Transfermarkt at Aberdeen's transfers over the same period (they are a club we see as being pretty consistent with a decent transfer policy, right?) and they have pretty much the same numbers.

 

And that includes Curtis Main!

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Nookie Bear
2 hours ago, 3fingersreid said:

I like my centre half’s to win arial battles , he does that , doesn’t lose many to the centre forwards when competing 

I like them when tackling to take no prisoners, he does that

hes got a decent bit of pace once he gets going and up until this season he chipped in with goals .

What he needs is a partner beside him who’s not a ****ing bombscare 

Halkett is just fine for a centre half in the backwater football that is Scotland .

Midfield creativity and particularly wingers with pace ,skill and the ability to cross the ball are a bigger issue 

 

Yes, agree with this.

 

We have to accept that, our level, no player is perfect and Halkett is good enough for us. I think Souttar returning is massive for us and Craig for next season.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Robbo-Jambo
1 hour ago, This is My Story Podcast said:

Yeah it’s not unreasonable to expect a rebuild of some sort this summer due to the reasons you’ve listed. However, Halliday, GMS, McEneff, Roberts etx weren’t all just brought to the club to get us out this league and this league only, hence why they got longer deals. So my point about just letting them go or what ever in the summer shouldn’t be a move that is just so easily taken, especially given the wages they’d be on etc. Not saying that’ll happen but I hope you get the point am trying to make. 
 

Also seen you comment further down the thread about needing 2 CB’s, I 100% agree. 

Halliday struggles in this league so God help him in the top league. 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

25 minutes ago, Section Q said:

A fit Souttar and someone like young Jason Kerr from St Johnstone would make a good pairing. Both young and have lots to offer.

 

Kerr would definately be a good signing, i'd even consider Rooney as a challenger to Michael Smith at RB

Link to comment
Share on other sites

3fingersreid
1 hour ago, bajthejambo said:

 

Sorry, but I don't agree with any of that. He isn't at all dominating and looks unfit. I said to someone on Friday that he looked like a Sunday League player who had just turned up from a house party. 

 

Slow, uncomfortable on the ball and constantly chasing shadows. 

 

We conceded goals for fun last season and that hasn't really stopped in the Championship with a much better goalkeeper. Halkett is simply not good enough.

All about opinions , but I don’t see him losing many challenges defensively 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

This only makes the 'Neilson out' crowd look a bit more knee-jerk and silly. I think we all know, or should at least, that this is nowhere near the finished article in terms of squad.

 

Robbie inherited a lot of shite, and tried to clear as much as possible, but it's not as easy as just saying 'I want him gone'. Look at Damour for example. Just sat back taking a wage for **** all, and we can't even give him away.

 

Robbie's 'style' is far from aesthetically pleasing with this squad, but I've said the same for weeks now, give it time, and give him a chance.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

3fingersreid
16 minutes ago, Clerry Jambo said:

Spot on fingers 

 

11 minutes ago, Nookie Bear said:

 

Yes, agree with this.

 

We have to accept that, our level, no player is perfect and Halkett is good enough for us. I think Souttar returning is massive for us and Craig for next season.

Cheers👍🏻 Thought I might have been more criticised than I have been 😬

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Nookie Bear
4 minutes ago, Locky said:

This only makes the 'Neilson out' crowd look a bit more knee-jerk and silly. I think we all know, or should at least, that this is nowhere near the finished article in terms of squad.

 

Robbie inherited a lot of shite, and tried to clear as much as possible, but it's not as easy as just saying 'I want him gone'. Look at Damour for example. Just sat back taking a wage for **** all, and we can't even give him away.

 

Robbie's 'style' is far from aesthetically pleasing with this squad, but I've said the same for weeks now, give it time, and give him a chance.

 

Hardly. Not looking forward to another minibus full of wingers arriving in the summer, but we will see...

Link to comment
Share on other sites

kingantti1874
2 hours ago, Harry Potter said:

looks weird😧, i thought he was a great signing at the time but not grabbing his chance tbh.


I mean in the way he moves, looks awkward - never fills me with confidence.. 

 

he isn’t good enough for hearts

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Nookie Bear
1 minute ago, kingantti1874 said:


I mean in the way he moves, looks awkward - never fills me with confidence.. 

 

he isn’t good enough for hearts

 

He is at the moment. we are a Championship club and probably midtable, bottom 6 next season. More than good enough for the next 18 months.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

3 hours ago, GinRummy said:

I wonder if the fact players know they are on shaky ground could be affecting performances.

It would freshen up the excuses!

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Bunny Munro

My biggest fear going going forward is that there isn't a rebuild.

 

I wouldn't be surprised if Robbie keeps Gordon, Smith, Halkett, Souttar, Kingsley, Haliday, McEneff, Walker, Naismith, GMS, Boyce and Gnando as first teamers. Possibly also Gino (if he gets fit), Roberts (if his loan goes OK), and Stewart as back up. Irving if he signs a deal. McGill and Cochrane back from their loans. 

 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Rogue Daddy
1 hour ago, The Grim Reaper said:

Ann Budge era players:

 

(11 keepers)
Neil Alexander
Scott Gallacher
Jack Hamilton
Lee Hollis
Viktor Noring
Jon McLaughlin
Zdenek Zlamal
Colin Doyle
Joel Pereira
Craig Gordon 
Ross Stewart


(36 defenders)
Alim Ozturk
Danny Wilson
Adam Eckersley
Kevin McHattie
Brad McKay
Blazej Augustyn
John Souttar
Callum Paterson
Liam Smith 
Jordan McGhee
Igor Rossi
Faycal Rherras
Krystian Nowak
Andraz Struna
Lennard Sowah
Aaron Hughes
Tasos Avlonitis
Jamie Brandon
Marcus Godinho
Daniel Baur
Juwon Oshinawa
Christophe Berra
Michael Smith
Connor Randall
Rafal Grzelak
Demetri Mitchell
Ashley Smith-Brown
Ben Garuccio
Clevid Dikamona
Jimmy Dunne
Conor Shaughnessy
Aaron Hickey
Craig Halkett
Aidy White
Mihai Popescu 
Stephen Kingsley


(50 midfielders) 
Morgaro Gomis
Billy King
Miguel Pallardo
El Hassnaoiu
Jason Holt
Kenny Anderson
Scott Robinson
Danny Swanson
Jamie Walker
Arnaud Djoum
Don Cowie
Perry Kitchen 
Sam Nicholson
Prince Bauben
Alexandros Tziolis
Malaury Martin
Choulay
Dario Zanatta
Dylan Bikey
Euan Henderson
Manuel Milinkovic
Ross Callachan
Harry Cochrane
Lewis Moore
Anthony McDonald
Joaquim Adao
Danny Amankwaa
Andy Irving
Alex Petkov
Peter Haring
Olly Lee
Callumn Morrison
Oliver Bozanic
Sean Clare 
Jake Mulraney
Bobby Burns
Ryan Edwards
Loic Damour
Glen Whelan
Ryataro Meshino
Donis Avdijav 
Tony Sibbick 
Marcel Langer
Jordan Roberts
Elliott Frear
Josh Ginnelly
Andy Halliday
Gary Mackay-Steven
Aaron McEneff


(26 forwards)
Juanma
James Keatings
Osman Sow
Genero Zeefuik
Dale Carrick
Gary Oliver
Robbie Buchanan
Gavin Reilly
Bjorn Johnsen
Conor Sammon
Robbie Muirhead
Isma Goncalves
Tony Watt
Rory Currie
Angus Beith
Kyle Lafferty
Steven Naismith
Cole Stockton
Aidan Keena
Steven MacLean
Uche Ikpeazu
Craig Wighton
David Vanecek
Conor Washington
Liam Boyce 
Armand Gnanduillet

 

(List copied from elsewhere)

Yikes! There is literally 11 different teams there!

Link to comment
Share on other sites

28 minutes ago, Nookie Bear said:

 

Yes, agree with this.

 

We have to accept that, our level, no player is perfect and Halkett is good enough for us. I think Souttar returning is massive for us and Craig for next season.

I had to read that twice, I thought for a minute Levein was coming back! New pants required!

Link to comment
Share on other sites

heartmussel
46 minutes ago, Section Q said:

A fit Souttar and someone like young Jason Kerr from St Johnstone would make a good pairing. Both young and have lots to offer.

I believe Kerr is one of Hibs main targets

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Nookie Bear
1 minute ago, Jambo61 said:

I had to read that twice, I thought for a minute Levein was coming back! New pants required!

 

Too soon for those kinds of jokes!

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Bazzas right boot
1 hour ago, This is My Story Podcast said:

Yeah it’s not unreasonable to expect a rebuild of some sort this summer due to the reasons you’ve listed. However, Halliday, GMS, McEneff, Roberts etx weren’t all just brought to the club to get us out this league and this league only, hence why they got longer deals. So my point about just letting them go or what ever in the summer shouldn’t be a move that is just so easily taken, especially given the wages they’d be on etc. Not saying that’ll happen but I hope you get the point am trying to make. 
 

Also seen you comment further down the thread about needing 2 CB’s, I 100% agree. 

 

I agree, the transfers he's made are with next season in mind. 

We'll lose a few tho and need a better squad of around 20 imo, hopefully with a few youngsters to boost it out a bit. 

 

I can see at least 6 in, maybe as much as 10 giving the numbers we shed last summer and will do again this summer. 

 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Bazzas right boot
1 hour ago, The Grim Reaper said:

Ann Budge era players:

 

(11 keepers)
Neil Alexander
Scott Gallacher
Jack Hamilton
Lee Hollis
Viktor Noring
Jon McLaughlin
Zdenek Zlamal
Colin Doyle
Joel Pereira
Craig Gordon 
Ross Stewart


(36 defenders)
Alim Ozturk
Danny Wilson
Adam Eckersley
Kevin McHattie
Brad McKay
Blazej Augustyn
John Souttar
Callum Paterson
Liam Smith 
Jordan McGhee
Igor Rossi
Faycal Rherras
Krystian Nowak
Andraz Struna
Lennard Sowah
Aaron Hughes
Tasos Avlonitis
Jamie Brandon
Marcus Godinho
Daniel Baur
Juwon Oshinawa
Christophe Berra
Michael Smith
Connor Randall
Rafal Grzelak
Demetri Mitchell
Ashley Smith-Brown
Ben Garuccio
Clevid Dikamona
Jimmy Dunne
Conor Shaughnessy
Aaron Hickey
Craig Halkett
Aidy White
Mihai Popescu 
Stephen Kingsley


(50 midfielders) 
Morgaro Gomis
Billy King
Miguel Pallardo
El Hassnaoiu
Jason Holt
Kenny Anderson
Scott Robinson
Danny Swanson
Jamie Walker
Arnaud Djoum
Don Cowie
Perry Kitchen 
Sam Nicholson
Prince Bauben
Alexandros Tziolis
Malaury Martin
Choulay
Dario Zanatta
Dylan Bikey
Euan Henderson
Manuel Milinkovic
Ross Callachan
Harry Cochrane
Lewis Moore
Anthony McDonald
Joaquim Adao
Danny Amankwaa
Andy Irving
Alex Petkov
Peter Haring
Olly Lee
Callumn Morrison
Oliver Bozanic
Sean Clare 
Jake Mulraney
Bobby Burns
Ryan Edwards
Loic Damour
Glen Whelan
Ryataro Meshino
Donis Avdijav 
Tony Sibbick 
Marcel Langer
Jordan Roberts
Elliott Frear
Josh Ginnelly
Andy Halliday
Gary Mackay-Steven
Aaron McEneff


(26 forwards)
Juanma
James Keatings
Osman Sow
Genero Zeefuik
Dale Carrick
Gary Oliver
Robbie Buchanan
Gavin Reilly
Bjorn Johnsen
Conor Sammon
Robbie Muirhead
Isma Goncalves
Tony Watt
Rory Currie
Angus Beith
Kyle Lafferty
Steven Naismith
Cole Stockton
Aidan Keena
Steven MacLean
Uche Ikpeazu
Craig Wighton
David Vanecek
Conor Washington
Liam Boyce 
Armand Gnanduillet

 

(List copied from elsewhere)

 

Means nothing without context to other  teams tho. 

 

Is that a lot, average for a team, or less tha average in terms of turnover. 

 

It looks horrendous, but without context hard to judge imo. 

 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Forza Cuore
2 hours ago, Cruyff said:

Yeah, i suppose Halliday can do that role. Defo need a RB to challenge Smith and a long term successor. 

Halliday couldn't do a chip roll. He's shite.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

4 minutes ago, Forza Cuore said:

Halliday couldn't do a chip roll. He's shite.

:lol: to be fair to him, his best game for us was at LB. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Auldbenches

Wouldn't it have been better to have two or three on pre contracts if a rebuild is needed to get them in early for pre season?  

We could be spending precious time looking for the players that we need.

I'll be disappointed if we aren't signing most of the players we need as soon as we can rather than just as the season is starting.

 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Dagger Is Back
3 hours ago, GinRummy said:

Players' futures on the line at Hearts as Craig Halkett explains long-term thinking

With more squad restructuring planned this summer, some Hearts players may only have a few games left in maroon.

There are nine Championship fixtures remaining following Friday night’s draw in Inverness. Those who want to play with the Edinburgh club in next season’s Premiership know there are limited chances to impress.

 

Frustrations are increasing after three successive 1-1 draws against Queen of the South, Morton and Inverness. Hearts remain 12 points clear at the top of the league but second-placed Raith Rovers have two matches in hand.

Manager Robbie Neilson will look to recruit in several positions if his team achieve promotion and current incumbents are understandably wary.

Defender Craig Halkett said futures are on line ahead of next season. “Everyone knows that we are playing for our futures here. The manager has brought people in this season to do a job and get the team back into the Premiership,” he said.

“He has said before that he wants to strengthen the squad again, so everyone should feel we are playing for our future and prove that they are good enough to be here next season.

 

“Individually we all know what the job is and that’s to win this league and get the club back to where it belongs in the Premiership. It is a shorter season this year, we only have nine games left.

“We know we have to win games to get over the line. I don’t think there is more pressure on us or anything like that, we just know ourselves we have to do better.

 

“We haven’t won enough games of late and we need to change that and prove to ourselves that we can do that.”

A 12-point lead with nine games left is nonetheless a decent cushion, even if there are arguments that it should be greater. “We knew we were the biggest team in the league at the start of the season,” said Halkett.

“For me, we should be in the Premiership and challenging for the top six and top four. That’s where we feel we should be as a club. To go and win the league comfortably was the aim.

“We have a lead at the top of the table and from now until the end of the season we want to win as many games as we can to wrap it up as quickly as we can

“In football, nothing is a given and we know we have to prove that we are good enough players to go and do that. That’s a challenge and we have to rise to it.”

Their efforts have been undermined by losing the first goal in each of their last three 

games. Miles Storey put Inverness ahead on Friday before Halkett climbed to nod Aaron McEneff’s cross downwards for Liam Boyce to equalise.

“It goes back to us giving teams a head start and then we need to score two to win the game. It isn’t good enough from our point of view. We had a chat after the Inverness game and we said that we have to start games better from now on.”

 

Blah blah blah. Well you sure as hell could have fooled me Craig - playing for your futures. About time you all showed up then

Link to comment
Share on other sites

59 minutes ago, Section Q said:

A fit Souttar and someone like young Jason Kerr from St Johnstone would make a good pairing. Both young and have lots to offer.

Defo need to push the boat out for a good Centerhalf. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Dusk_Till_Dawn
1 hour ago, BervieJambo said:

I’m getting fed up with them talking all the time, especially when it doesn’t match their actions on the pitch. Stop saying we want to be here, we’re going to do that, etc - just go out on the pitch and prove it. Personally I’d ban them from speaking to the press if possible - including Robbie - it just makes them look even more inept with a ball at their feet.


This has been a problem for about three years now. Players/coaches/ownership talking their talk and then not delivering.

 

Look at that piece Neilson did a while back about the style of football he wants to play. Then look at the style of play we’re actually getting, in a league where no club poses any threat to us. The club survives on spin and too many fans are daft enough to swallow it.

 

Berra being welcomed back into the fold tells your everything you need to know about this holiday camp.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, Jamhammer said:

Yup. Wouldn’t it be Luvvly to go into a season and only have to recruit 2 quality players to improve your squad?

Every window for years has been the same. Recruitment is, with a few exceptions appalling

Can't disagree,  nobody can , but am I being hopelessly optimistic in saying Gnaduillet and McEneff are looking like good signings? My point being Joe Savage starting to have influence in the recruitment.  I may be clutching at straws though.

Gordon, Smith , Boyce, Kingsley are decent Premiership players GMS and Walker keep, plus a fit again Souttar, Gnaduillet and McEneff. This would give us the good basis of a top half Premiership squad.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Berra than you
50 minutes ago, Nookie Bear said:

 

I had a quixck look on Transfermarkt at Aberdeen's transfers over the same period (they are a club we see as being pretty consistent with a decent transfer policy, right?) and they have pretty much the same numbers.

 

And that includes Curtis Main!

Well there we go. I have to say that's surprised me somewhat but just goes to show you need all the info before making a judgement. Also in fairness, the number of players signed at the start of budges reign was forced. Likewise, I think that list of players shouldn't include players at the club when she took over, or player that came through the academy as these are not transfers, albeit they are 'players used'.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Robbo-Jambo
1 hour ago, Selkirkhmfc1874 said:

Big changes yet again this summer ! Unbelievable we in this situation yet again after the amount of players we brought in these last few seasons. 

It really is. 

 

To have a half decent season next year is going to be a virtual rebuild with only a handful you would keep from the current squad. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, The Grim Reaper said:

Ann Budge era players:

 

(11 keepers)
Neil Alexander
Scott Gallacher
Jack Hamilton
Lee Hollis
Viktor Noring
Jon McLaughlin
Zdenek Zlamal
Colin Doyle
Joel Pereira
Craig Gordon 
Ross Stewart


(36 defenders)
Alim Ozturk
Danny Wilson
Adam Eckersley
Kevin McHattie
Brad McKay
Blazej Augustyn
John Souttar
Callum Paterson
Liam Smith 
Jordan McGhee
Igor Rossi
Faycal Rherras
Krystian Nowak
Andraz Struna
Lennard Sowah
Aaron Hughes
Tasos Avlonitis
Jamie Brandon
Marcus Godinho
Daniel Baur
Juwon Oshinawa
Christophe Berra
Michael Smith
Connor Randall
Rafal Grzelak
Demetri Mitchell
Ashley Smith-Brown
Ben Garuccio
Clevid Dikamona
Jimmy Dunne
Conor Shaughnessy
Aaron Hickey
Craig Halkett
Aidy White
Mihai Popescu 
Stephen Kingsley


(50 midfielders) 
Morgaro Gomis
Billy King
Miguel Pallardo
El Hassnaoiu
Jason Holt
Kenny Anderson
Scott Robinson
Danny Swanson
Jamie Walker
Arnaud Djoum
Don Cowie
Perry Kitchen 
Sam Nicholson
Prince Bauben
Alexandros Tziolis
Malaury Martin
Choulay
Dario Zanatta
Dylan Bikey
Euan Henderson
Manuel Milinkovic
Ross Callachan
Harry Cochrane
Lewis Moore
Anthony McDonald
Joaquim Adao
Danny Amankwaa
Andy Irving
Alex Petkov
Peter Haring
Olly Lee
Callumn Morrison
Oliver Bozanic
Sean Clare 
Jake Mulraney
Bobby Burns
Ryan Edwards
Loic Damour
Glen Whelan
Ryataro Meshino
Donis Avdijav 
Tony Sibbick 
Marcel Langer
Jordan Roberts
Elliott Frear
Josh Ginnelly
Andy Halliday
Gary Mackay-Steven
Aaron McEneff


(26 forwards)
Juanma
James Keatings
Osman Sow
Genero Zeefuik
Dale Carrick
Gary Oliver
Robbie Buchanan
Gavin Reilly
Bjorn Johnsen
Conor Sammon
Robbie Muirhead
Isma Goncalves
Tony Watt
Rory Currie
Angus Beith
Kyle Lafferty
Steven Naismith
Cole Stockton
Aidan Keena
Steven MacLean
Uche Ikpeazu
Craig Wighton
David Vanecek
Conor Washington
Liam Boyce 
Armand Gnanduillet

 

(List copied from elsewhere)

That is absolutely frightening 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Dusk_Till_Dawn
45 minutes ago, Robbo-Jambo said:

Halliday struggles in this league so God help him in the top league. 

 


Just pleased we only gave him two years. Will be difficult to move in the summer but at least it’s not a four year special

Link to comment
Share on other sites

2 minutes ago, Robbo-Jambo said:

It really is. 

 

To have a half decent season next year is going to be a virtual rebuild with only a handful you would keep from the current squad. 

And getting it right!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Ainsley Harriott

Have we not had about 4 clear outs in the last 5 years? Trouble is the usual self-preservationists will be doubt survive and continue to rot our club like a wage stealing cancer.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.




×
×
  • Create New...