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The official mathematically certain Championship winning table

 

  P Pts Avail Max PPG Pts @ PPG
Hearts 24 50 9 59 2.08 56.25
Raith 23 37 12 49 1.61 43.43
Dundee 23 37 12 49 1.61 43.43
ICT 24 34 9 43 1.42 38.25
Dunfermline 23 32 12 44 1.39 37.57
QOTS 23 31 12 43 1.35 36.39
Ayr 24 27 9 36 1.13 30.38
Morton 24 26 9 35 1.08 29.25
Arbroath 24 26 9 35 1.08 29.25
Alloa 24 18 9 27 0.75 20.25

 

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Restonbabe

Finally. 🙏🙏🎉🎉🎉

Now for the clear out 

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Radio Ga Ga

Now Robbie, get into Riccarton pick up your gear and GTF (please)

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Hagar the Horrible

3 games where we dont have tp keep passing the ball sideways lets just go for it

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Under the floodlight

Champions, get it right up ya, those who unfairly demoted us.:flag1:

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naeclue

Seems appropriate that it’s other teams dropping points that confirms us as champions.

 

Great to be able to bounce back up.

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Just now, naeclue said:

Seems appropriate that it’s other teams dropping points that confirms us as champions.

 

Great to be able to bounce back up.


9 out of 10 teams in the league dropped points. Yaaay. Champions
 

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Great results today! Now let's finish strong and aim for 59 points.

 

Anything been said when we are getting the presented with the trophy? 

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kingantti1874
1 minute ago, Mirror said:

Great results today! Now let's finish strong and aim for 59 points.

 

Anything been said when we are getting the presented with the trophy? 


We shouldn’t accept any presentation of any trophy or fly any flag

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2 hours ago, jamboinglasgow said:

 

If say we drew 1 and lost 2 of our 3 remains games (which would be needed for this scenario) and lost each game by a goal (3 of our 4 defeats have been by 1 goal.)

 

Then Raith would need to win every game by more than 4 goals (though as we play them last they would need to win their next 4 games by 4 goals and beat us by 2 goals.) Dundee would need to win every game by 5 goals.

 

Raith have only won 2 games all season by at least 4 goals, Dundee have not won a game by more than 3 goals this season.

Thankfully goal difference wont come into it now!

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TypoonJambo
29 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said:


We shouldn’t accept any presentation of any trophy or fly any flag

Nah, get Dungcaster in on the first day with fans. Make the man feel accepted.

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Seymour M Hersh
58 minutes ago, RobboM said:

Rob Neilson at Riccarton waiting on the congratulation letters to pour in from the fans

Pin on Trending Fandom News

 

 

He's won the same league two years on the bounce. What have you won?  He'll always be able to say I won the championship three times and you'll never be able to say that. Never. 

 

For the avoidance of doubt I want a new manager for next season. 

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davemclaren
21 minutes ago, TypoonJambo said:

Nah, get Dungcaster in on the first day with fans. Make the man feel accepted.

Interesting atmosphere. 

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alwaysthereinspirit
1 hour ago, naeclue said:

Seems appropriate that it’s other teams dropping points that confirms us as champions.

 

Great to be able to bounce back up.

🤦🏻‍♂️
The name Naeclue was chosen with perfection 

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cookieboy
47 minutes ago, south morocco said:

What’s the format for the play offs?

4th v 3rd , winner plays 2nd, winner plays 11th in premiership 

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Hagar the Horrible

Good to keep this going to work out which game was the decider dundee an the pars dropped more points 

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Footballfirst

For anyone still interested in the playoffs

 

  P Pts Avail Max PPG Pts @ PPG
Hearts 24 50 9 59 2.08 56.25
Raith 24 40 9 49 1.67 45.00
Dundee 24 38 9 47 1.58 42.75
ICT 24 34 9 43 1.42 38.25
Dunfermline 24 33 9 42 1.38 37.13
QOTS 24 31 9 40 1.29 34.88
Ayr 24 27 9 36 1.13 30.38
Morton 24 26 9 35 1.08 29.25
Arbroath 24 26 9 35 1.08 29.25
Alloa 24 18 9 27 0.75 20.25
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heartsfc_fan

Dunfermline have chucked it. Had them on for 2nd in the early games of the league. Not now.

Imagine Raith go up 🤣 would be an incredible feat from League 1 last season (despite being promoted unfairly, of course, and their chairman being a ****)

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Restonbabe

Playoff positions are tight. Will be a good run in to see who makes it. Definitely all still to play for. 

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11 hours ago, Hagar the Horrible said:

Good to keep this going to work out which game was the decider dundee an the pars dropped more points 

When we got to 

 

42 points, beat Dundee 2.1 (06 March)

45 points, beat Ayr 2.0 (13 March)

46 points, draw Arbroath (20 March)

47 points, draw Dunfermline (03 April)

50 points, beat Alloa (09 April)

 

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11 hours ago, Restonbabe said:

Playoff positions are tight. Will be a good run in to see who makes it. Definitely all still to play for. 

After watching the match last night I cannot see much to worry about for Hamilton/Killie or Ross County over two legs in the playoffs

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18 hours ago, heartsfc_fan said:

Dunfermline have chucked it. Had them on for 2nd in the early games of the league. Not now.

Imagine Raith go up 🤣 would be an incredible feat from League 1 last season (despite being promoted unfairly, of course, and their chairman being a ****)

Lots of  people had them to be miles in front of us after we lost 2-1 to them. 🙈

 

Fair play to Raith they look like theyll get over 45 points and I didn’t think any other team would manage that. 

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Footballfirst

Today's update with Alloa's relegation confirmed. 🤣

 

  P Pts Avail Max PPG Pts @ PPG
Hearts (Ch) 24 50 9 59 2.08 56.25
Raith 25 43 6 49 1.72 46.44
Dundee 24 38 9 47 1.58 42.75
Dunfermline 25 36 6 42 1.44 38.88
ICT 24 34 9 43 1.42 38.25
QOTS 25 31 6 37 1.24 33.48
Arbroath 25 29 6 35 1.16 31.32
Ayr 25 27 6 33 1.08 29.16
Morton 24 26 9 35 1.08 29.25
Alloa (Rel) 25 18 6 24 0.72 19.44
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davemclaren
On 31/01/2021 at 17:14, Restonbabe said:

I believe I've been doing some bad math. Looking for someone to help me... 

13 games left 

Next 9 as follows         points 32

February 

 5th   A to Ayr              35

12th A to QoS.             38

20th H to morton        41

26th A to ICT.             44

March

 6th home to dundee.  47  

13th home to Ayr          50

20th away to Arbroath 

27th home to QoS

April 

 3rd away to Dunfermline 

 

Providing we win the remainder of these fixtures and the following happens  do we win the league in Dunfermline? 

 

February 

 3rd Raith vs dunfermline (dunf win) 

13th dunfermline v Dundee(Dundee)

20th February. 3 fixtures 

March 

5th raith vs dunfermline (raith) 

 

If these fixtures pan out like that on 6th March at home vs Dundee we can go 14-20 points clear depending on results. 

 

This is where I am getting stuck..... 

 

If the others keep taking points off each other up until 6th march at our home game vs Dundee if we beat them can we win the league next week 13th march at home vs Ayr United on the TV?? 

 

You didn’t get the Results right but you we only one week out. 😀

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davemclaren
2 hours ago, Footballfirst said:

Today's update with Alloa's relegation confirmed. 🤣

 

  P Pts Avail Max PPG Pts @ PPG
Hearts (Ch) 24 50 9 59 2.08 56.25
Raith 25 43 6 49 1.72 46.44
Dundee 24 38 9 47 1.58 42.75
Dunfermline 25 36 6 42 1.44 38.88
ICT 24 34 9 43 1.42 38.25
QOTS 25 31 6 37 1.24 33.48
Arbroath 25 29 6 35 1.16 31.32
Ayr 25 27 6 33 1.08 29.16
Morton 24 26 9 35 1.08 29.25
Alloa (Rel) 25 18 6 24 0.72 19.44

Looks like 45 points might not have been enough after all. 😎

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Longbaws

It's been a rough season with covid and playing in empty stadiums. We should remember that a lot of teams were hit harder than us and blah blah blah

 

GIRFUY Alloa, hope this is the start of them folding

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Saint Jambo
11 minutes ago, davemclaren said:

Looks like 45 points might not have been enough after all. 😎

 

In one sense it definitely wouldn't have been, if we are thinking about when Hearts were on 45 points and some posters were suggesting it might well be enough. That was contingent on us losing all our games, so losing against Raith on the final day of the season. If we do that, Raith will now definitely finish above 45 points.

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Restonbabe
On 17/04/2021 at 16:26, davemclaren said:

You didn’t get the Results right but you we only one week out. 😀

Overall I am happy with that. Bottom line we are up. 

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davemclaren
5 minutes ago, Restonbabe said:

Overall I am happy with that. Bottom line we are up. 

Correct. 

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Kiwidoug

I just hope our players don't bounce up and down in ecstasy when the trophy is presented.

 

Can't believe Celtic do that when they've basically bought the trophies for most of their history.

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davemclaren
3 hours ago, Kiwidoug said:

I just hope our players don't bounce up and down in ecstasy when the trophy is presented.

 

Can't believe Celtic do that when they've basically bought the trophies for most of their history.

They’ve been told not to smile. 🙁

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Footballfirst

As you were!

  P Pts Avail Max PPG Pts @ PPG
Hearts (Ch) 25 51 6 57 2.04 55.08
Raith 25 43 6 49 1.72 46.44
Dundee 25 39 6 45 1.56 42.12
Dunfermline 25 36 6 42 1.44 38.88
ICT 25 35 6 41 1.40 37.80
QOTS 25 31 6 37 1.24 33.48
Arbroath 25 29 6 35 1.16 31.32
Ayr 25 27 6 33 1.08 29.16
Morton 25 27 6 33 1.08 29.16
Alloa (Rel) 25 18 6 24 0.72 19.44
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Jambo 4 Ever
On 31/01/2021 at 17:41, Locky said:

Wishful thinking Restonbabe. I predict we'll not mathematically win the title until we play Morton away.

Almost right 

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August Landmesser
2 hours ago, maroonsgotop said:

guaranteed to win the league by at least 2 points 

Which is pitiful. What a fiasco of a season this has been.

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davemclaren
12 hours ago, Footballfirst said:

As you were!

  P Pts Avail Max PPG Pts @ PPG
Hearts (Ch) 25 51 6 57 2.04 55.08
Raith 25 43 6 49 1.72 46.44
Dundee 25 39 6 45 1.56 42.12
Dunfermline 25 36 6 42 1.44 38.88
ICT 25 35 6 41 1.40 37.80
QOTS 25 31 6 37 1.24 33.48
Arbroath 25 29 6 35 1.16 31.32
Ayr 25 27 6 33 1.08 29.16
Morton 25 27 6 33 1.08 29.16
Alloa (Rel) 25 18 6 24 0.72 19.44

How is our PPG comparing now to previous championship winners. I think you had a comparison previously. 

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Footballfirst
38 minutes ago, davemclaren said:

How is our PPG comparing now to previous championship winners. I think you had a comparison previously. 

I didn't produce a comparison previously but here is one anyway.

 

Season Champion P Pts PPG
2011/12 Ross Co. 36 79 2.19
2012/13 Partick 36 78 2.17
2013/14 Dundee 36 69 1.92
2014/15 Hearts  36 91 2.53
2015/16 Rangers 36 81 2.25
2016/17 Hibernian 36 71 1.97
2017/18 St Mirren 36 74 2.06
2018/19 Ross Co. 36 71 1.97
2019/20 Dundee Utd 28 59 2.11
2020/21 Hearts  25 51 2.04
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3 minutes ago, Footballfirst said:

I didn't produce a comparison previously but here is one anyway.

 

Season Champion P Pts PPG
2011/12 Ross Co. 36 79 2.19
2012/13 Partick 36 78 2.17
2013/14 Dundee 36 69 1.92
2014/15 Hearts  36 91 2.53
2015/16 Rangers 36 81 2.25
2016/17 Hibernian 36 71 1.97
2017/18 St Mirren 36 74 2.06
2018/19 Ross Co. 36 71 1.97
2019/20 Dundee Utd 28 59 2.11
2020/21 Hearts  25 51 2.04

Thanks. I wasn’t sure it was you but knew you wouldn’t be able to resist a spreadsheet challenge. 😂
 

Need to win our next two games to keep it respectable. 

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indianajones
11 minutes ago, Footballfirst said:

I didn't produce a comparison previously but here is one anyway.

 

Season Champion P Pts PPG
2011/12 Ross Co. 36 79 2.19
2012/13 Partick 36 78 2.17
2013/14 Dundee 36 69 1.92
2014/15 Hearts  36 91 2.53
2015/16 Rangers 36 81 2.25
2016/17 Hibernian 36 71 1.97
2017/18 St Mirren 36 74 2.06
2018/19 Ross Co. 36 71 1.97
2019/20 Dundee Utd 28 59 2.11
2020/21 Hearts  25 51 2.04

 

How do we have a better PPG average than Hibs in 16/17?

 

Its very hard to believe considering how utter pish we have been. 

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davemclaren
26 minutes ago, indianajones said:

 

How do we have a better PPG average than Hibs in 16/17?

 

Its very hard to believe considering how utter pish we have been. 

Pish is a relative concept. 

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indianajones
54 minutes ago, davemclaren said:

Pish is a relative concept. 

 

It really is when dealing with Hibs i guess! 

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BarneyBattles
1 hour ago, indianajones said:

 

How do we have a better PPG average than Hibs in 16/17?

 

Its very hard to believe considering how utter pish we have been. 

 

We also have a much better goals per game average too (2.24 to their 1.64). Hibs won 19 games and scored 59 goals in 36 games. We've won 15 games and scored 56 goals in 25 games. 

 

We've been generally woeful but hopefully you can use these stats if any hibbies are on the wind up :) 

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davemclaren
2 hours ago, BarneyBattles said:

 

We also have a much better goals per game average too (2.24 to their 1.64). Hibs won 19 games and scored 59 goals in 36 games. We've won 15 games and scored 56 goals in 25 games. 

 

We've been generally woeful but hopefully you can use these stats if any hibbies are on the wind up :) 

Some good news...at last. 

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BarneyBattles
9 minutes ago, davemclaren said:

Some good news...at last. 

 

Indeed. Might celebrate with a Chinese take-away tonight. Hope Robbie Neilson doesn't pass my window when I'm eating it.

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