upgotheheads Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 Apologies for starting this while we're still digesting last night's 'performance'. But I think we need to talk. I'm hoping for quite a few changes. Hearts really do need to send out a wake-up call to some who think they will be first picks. Berra for Popescu. Berra has his weaknesses but Popescu needs to take stock. Irving for Halliday, because he's a better player. Henderson for Frear, we need to give Henderson a proper chance. Whiting as striker for Boyce, until Boyce starts to realise that this league is not beneath him. Naismith, think he must start without Boyce, because together they get billy big-baws syndrome. Haring to start at all costs, and just keep our fingers crossed. Moore on the bench along with Walker. just so that Walker realises what his true level is. Ginnelly to start, or we need to know if he's not just an expensive liability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madjambo21 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 Gordon Smith Halkett Berra Kingsley Ginnelly Harring Lee Robert's Boyce Wighton I'd be happy with that team. Naismith to come off the bench if needed. Henderson and Moore on bench also. Alloa are a stuffy team to play against and come away with some big wins against the bigger teams in the league (beat United last season) Must win for me as my Bro is a Alloa fan 😬 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WheatfieldWarrior Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 12 minutes ago, upgotheheads said: Apologies for starting this while we're still digesting last night's 'performance'. But I think we need to talk. I'm hoping for quite a few changes. Hearts really do need to send out a wake-up call to some who think they will be first picks. Berra for Popescu. Berra has his weaknesses but Popescu needs to take stock. Irving for Halliday, because he's a better player. Henderson for Frear, we need to give Henderson a proper chance. Whiting as striker for Boyce, until Boyce starts to realise that this league is not beneath him. Naismith, think he must start without Boyce, because together they get billy big-baws syndrome. Haring to start at all costs, and just keep our fingers crossed. Moore on the bench along with Walker. just so that Walker realises what his true level is. Ginnelly to start, or we need to know if he's not just an expensive liability. Irving in for Lee for me - we need his creativity to break down teams. Start wighton up top with Boyce behind. Naismith on the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iainmac Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 17 minutes ago, upgotheheads said: Apologies for starting this while we're still digesting last night's 'performance'. But I think we need to talk. I'm hoping for quite a few changes. Hearts really do need to send out a wake-up call to some who think they will be first picks. Berra for Popescu. Berra has his weaknesses but Popescu needs to take stock. Irving for Halliday, because he's a better player. Henderson for Frear, we need to give Henderson a proper chance. Whiting as striker for Boyce, until Boyce starts to realise that this league is not beneath him. Naismith, think he must start without Boyce, because together they get billy big-baws syndrome. Haring to start at all costs, and just keep our fingers crossed. Moore on the bench along with Walker. just so that Walker realises what his true level is. Ginnelly to start, or we need to know if he's not just an expensive liability. I'm assuming you mean Wighton? How does he get a free pass after his performance last night. What did he do that was worthy of retaining a starting place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upgotheheads Posted November 21, 2020 Author Share Posted November 21, 2020 9 minutes ago, iainmac said: I'm assuming you mean Wighton? How does he get a free pass after his performance last night. What did he do that was worthy of retaining a starting place? Aye, must have come up on autocorrect. It's still early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambo Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 25 minutes ago, iainmac said: What did he do that was worthy of retaining a starting place? That sentence could be for anyone in the team/squad tbf. Smith/Gordon/Kingsley aside. A sorry state of affairs in this league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambo Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 This game will take care of itself. We will learn nothing from what should be an easy 3 points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S Form Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 What’s with all this demand for Berra? He was truly piss poor against East Fife and constantly reverted to the old hoof up the park. He’s not an improvement on Halkett or Popescu and change for change sake is a daft route to go down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighTimes Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 7 minutes ago, S Form said: What’s with all this demand for Berra? He was truly piss poor against East Fife and constantly reverted to the old hoof up the park. He’s not an improvement on Halkett or Popescu and change for change sake is a daft route to go down. Exactly. Can't believe anyone wants to see Berra anywhere near the first team again. The fact he was on the bench yesterday was terrifying enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 Yeah let's not encourage more of this: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indianajones Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 Drop: Lee, Halliday, Naismith (shocking display from a captain last night), Frear. In: Irving, Haring, Ginnely and Roberts. No thanks to Berra and Walker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iainmac Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 1 minute ago, indianajones said: Drop: Lee, Halliday, Naismith (shocking display from a captain last night), Frear. In: Irving, Haring, Ginnely and Roberts. No thanks to Berra and Walker. Roberts is hopeless & heartless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kidd’s Boots Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 Haring for Halliday Ginnelly for Frear and Irving for Naismith would be my only changes. Gives us better 442 433 and 4231 options imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 Just now, Kidd’s Boots said: Haring for Halliday Ginnelly for Frear and Irving for Naismith would be my only changes. Gives us better 442 433 and 4231 options imo Ginnelly still a doubt unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kidd’s Boots Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 1 minute ago, davemclaren said: Ginnelly still a doubt unfortunately. Do you have any good news Dave? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 1 minute ago, Kidd’s Boots said: Do you have any good news Dave? Haring should be available. 😎 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackLadd Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 Haring has to start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMJ_1874 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, Kidd’s Boots said: Do you have any good news Dave? Yes, he won a tenner on a scratch card 2 hours ago, indianajones said: Drop: Lee, Halliday, Naismith (shocking display from a captain last night), Frear. In: Irving, Haring, Ginnely and Roberts. No thanks to Berra and Walker. Popescu for ....a lamp post. Just as productive imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kidd’s Boots Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 Only 1 bubble burst, I'll live with that 👍. A.N. Other for Frear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kidd’s Boots Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 1 minute ago, Saughton Jambo said: Yes, he won a tenner on a scratch card Popescu for ....a lamp post. Just as productive imo I've heard that as of Tuesday I can get a massage, tattoo and a pint all in the same day, as long as it's before 8pm. That's the kind of thing I was hoping for.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAlim Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 Would like to see McGill get a shot, think the young lads add a lot of energy which is the missing component in the senior squad. Would honestly rather see Moore over Frear or Roberts as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 Gordon Halkett Haring Kingsley Smith Lee Irving White Ginnelly Wighton Henderson The only team I could pick and drop Popescu, Naisy, Frear, Roberts and Boyce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAlim Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 ___________Gordon Logan__Smith__Berra__Kingsley ___McGill__Haring__Irving _Moore__Wighton__White send a message to underperforming players from last night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gedster Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 23 minutes ago, BigAlim said: Would like to see McGill get a shot, think the young lads add a lot of energy which is the missing component in the senior squad. Would honestly rather see Moore over Frear or Roberts as well. Against East Fife, the game passed him by unfortunately Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EIEIO Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 Must win game! They're bottom of the table ,we are at home there are no excuses for anything other than a Hearts win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Black Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 5 hours ago, iainmac said: I'm assuming you mean Wighton? How does he get a free pass after his performance last night. What did he do that was worthy of retaining a starting place? Well to start with he isn't a winger which is where he is being played. The support know that, Wighton knows that and RN knows that, so why play him there when we also have Moore and Henderson fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William H. Bonney Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 We’ll win 6-0 at home then 2-0 in the cup a few days later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gashauskis9 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 Gordon Smith Halkett Kingsley White Irving Haring Ginelly Lee Walker Wighton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex member of the SaS Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 Whilst I am sure we will win the league ( assuming it's played to an end ) we do need to wake up and stop thinking we will walk it. Teams will be desperate to beat us and we need the players to realise this. This SHOULD be an easy three points but if the mid and forwards don't make forward moves and moves into space, for the likes of Smith to make a pass, we will once again pussy foot around with sideways and back passes. We need players in the box when the ball comes in. Stendle had us pressing the opposition in their own half stopping them from playing, this is how Dunfy played us for long periods and it causes us problems. Stop thinking we are entitled to win and we will. Come you lot show us you have the skill and ability you claim to have and start making a mark on this league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upgotheheads Posted November 21, 2020 Author Share Posted November 21, 2020 12 minutes ago, Ex member of the SaS said: Whilst I am sure we will win the league ( assuming it's played to an end ) we do need to wake up and stop thinking we will walk it. Teams will be desperate to beat us and we need the players to realise this. This SHOULD be an easy three points but if the mid and forwards don't make forward moves and moves into space, for the likes of Smith to make a pass, we will once again pussy foot around with sideways and back passes. We need players in the box when the ball comes in. Stendle had us pressing the opposition in their own half stopping them from playing, this is how Dunfy played us for long periods and it causes us problems. Stop thinking we are entitled to win and we will. Come you lot show us you have the skill and ability you claim to have and start making a mark on this league. I wish I could be so confident about the league, though we should remember that all the other sides at the top will lose games to each other too. Yesterday was poor but it was against one of the best teams in the league away from home. Now, Tuesday is a different matter; if we don't win and win well against the bottom team in the league then that is a very different matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmfc_liam06 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 Response needed here. Heart of Midlothian 5 - 0 Alloa Athletic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumpyespana Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 6 hours ago, HighTimes said: Exactly. Can't believe anyone wants to see Berra anywhere near the first team again. The fact he was on the bench yesterday was terrifying enough. I know he is not the player he was but he is good in the air in his own box and thats what we seem to need just now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambopilms Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 I think it will be another struggle. The style of play seems to be play safe. We can't match up for pace or energy as we have none. You can only really get away with one or two in the team with a lack of pace, we have half a dozen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Buck Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 Think we’ll win fairly comfortably. Haring must start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull's-eye Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 We've no chance obviously, might as well not bother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Marsh Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 1-0 Hearts (Boyce penalty) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambo Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 8 games into season and we don't know the followings best position Halliday Lee Naismith Walker Roberts Wighton White We have Gordon, Smith, Kingsley as most fans certain starters, for Neilson add in Hackett, Boyce as starters. We don't even have a settled formation either. 4-5-1, 3-5-2, 4-2-3-1, 4-4-2, anyones guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Djnoisy Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, Gambo said: 8 games into season and we don't know the followings best position Halliday Lee Naismith - Cleaning boots Walker Roberts Wighton White We have Gordon, Smith, Kingsley as most fans certain starters, for Neilson add in Hackett, Boyce as starters. We don't even have a settled formation either. 4-5-1, 3-5-2, 4-2-3-1, 4-4-2, anyones guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 6 hours ago, HighTimes said: Exactly. Can't believe anyone wants to see Berra anywhere near the first team again. The fact he was on the bench yesterday was terrifying enough. Was he not very good for Dundee in the championship? Are you basing your opinion on him about a year ago the last time he was playing for us in the top league? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 33 minutes ago, Bull's-eye said: We've no chance obviously, might as well not bother. Dunfermline have the league won. Thier all out attacking, pressing, flair football means we're all playing for second, no way back for anyone. They'll actually win 28 games from 27, I think they are that good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunny Munro Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 Gordon Smith Halkett Kingsley Halliday Lee Haring Ginnelly Walker Moore Boyce Bench: Stewart, Popescu, Brandon, Irving, Naismith, White, Wighton. If Ginnelly cant start then White in and Moore in the right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alwaysthereinspirit Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 6 hours ago, indianajones said: Drop: Lee, Halliday, Naismith (shocking display from a captain last night), Frear. In: Irving, Haring, Ginnely and Roberts. No thanks to Berra and Walker. Roberts will never challenge let alone win any 50/50. Same with Wighton. Irving hasn’t done much this season with regards to consistency. Not sure Ginnely is anything special. Any word on why Haring wasn’t in the squad? Frear has absolutely no confidence to beat a full back. Naismith was dire last night. Halliday I’m not sure what he’s supposed to be doing. Not sure he does either. Boyce is not a poacher. Walker lost the ball more than he won it. Halkett thinks he’s Beckenbaur. He couldn’t pass wind. Popescu thinks he’s above our level. We have no player in midfield who you believe something good could be just about to happen when he gets the ball. We’ve pretty much made every opponent this season look good. What has Adams done since the first league game? Teams will press against us from now on in unless we kick on Tuesday and score a bunch. The longer a game goes and we don’t score the more confident opponents will get. It’s time for teams to worry about us more than us worrying about them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hearts00 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 People calling for Berra to come in is just mind blowing. I agree with Wighton up top and Boyce In behind. Will we manage to go just one game without changing formation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydug Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 18 minutes ago, Smith's right boot said: Dunfermline have the league won. Thier all out attacking, pressing, flair football means we're all playing for second, no way back for anyone. They'll actually win 28 games from 27, I think they are that good. Folk are trying to have a serious conversation here. You seem to think it's all a big joke 😒 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 9 minutes ago, alwaysthereinspirit said: Roberts will never challenge let alone win any 50/50. Same with Wighton. Irving hasn’t done much this season with regards to consistency. Not sure Ginnely is anything special. Any word on why Haring wasn’t in the squad? Frear has absolutely no confidence to beat a full back. Naismith was dire last night. Halliday I’m not sure what he’s supposed to be doing. Not sure he does either. Boyce is not a poacher. Walker lost the ball more than he won it. Halkett thinks he’s Beckenbaur. He couldn’t pass wind. Popescu thinks he’s above our level. We have no player in midfield who you believe something good could be just about to happen when he gets the ball. We’ve pretty much made every opponent this season look good. What has Adams done since the first league game? Teams will press against us from now on in unless we kick on Tuesday and score a bunch. The longer a game goes and we don’t score the more confident opponents will get. It’s time for teams to worry about us more than us worrying about them. Haring had a ‘bit of a hamstring issue’. Expected to play on Tuesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighTimes Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 27 minutes ago, Smith's right boot said: Was he not very good for Dundee in the championship? Are you basing your opinion on him about a year ago the last time he was playing for us in the top league? I'm basing it on a year of that and seeing him play against East Fife. Dundee fans thinking he was good for them for half a dozen games last season doesn't really fill me with confidence - they also think Jordan Foster's decent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighTimes Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 1 hour ago, grumpyespana said: I know he is not the player he was but he is good in the air in his own box and thats what we seem to need just now. Any ball that makes him turn, or requires him to touch it with his feet is a recipe for putting us in trouble, imo. Which is a shame, because he's been a great servant for the club, but sadly also true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fila Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 Problem is some people getting carried away ! We signed in the majority a bunch of championship level players who are proving to be just that , combined with quite a few of the championship level dross we had in the squad , that apparently became world beaters , arise Lee , Wighton etc Robbie would have offloaded them unfortunately we had no takers . I do think we will win the league , but the squad needs a major overhaul for next season. Thought Dunfermline were lucky to win the game, on another night we would have won it, two headers of the bar, Boyce heading it softly into the keepers arms, Naismith trying to lay the ball of when clean through on goals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 3 hours ago, gedster said: Against East Fife, the game passed him by unfortunately That might’ve had something do with Christophe” I just got married 😢” Berra the alleged PHM hoofing the ****ing ball over his head all night . . . possibly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gedster Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 5 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: That might’ve had something do with Christophe” I just got married 😢” Berra the alleged PHM hoofing the ****ing ball over his head all night . . . possibly. This is very true.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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