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5 hours ago, Gordon Ramsay said:

 

The next time Only Hearts appears on Twitter the club will be in for a pounding. 

 

Wasn't it just a ST/let's put the whole court thing behind us campaign slogan and that campaign has pretty much ended now we're focusing on the new season? I don't think it was meant to be a new club tagline 😅

 

I read it as let's focus on Hearts and not on other teams. So if loaning Bobby works for us, that's what we'll do.

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5 hours ago, graygo said:

 

It was the whole question that I wanted answered, who owns the club? 

Here's a clue - it's not you or me.

Indeed people seem to forget that they donate to FOH. They are not buying shares...

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13 hours ago, ToqueJambo said:

 

Wasn't it just a ST/let's put the whole court thing behind us campaign slogan and that campaign has pretty much ended now we're focusing on the new season? I don't think it was meant to be a new club tagline 😅

 

I read it as let's focus on Hearts and not on other teams. So if loaning Bobby works for us, that's what we'll do.


I don’t believe that’s how the majority of Hearts fans read it, however bash on with this narrative as it suits your stance.

 

How loaning a player out for 7 days works for us I will never know unless the loan fee is astronomical. This getting match fit rhetoric you are peddling, for a second string goalkeeper, is ludicrous.
 

Until someone comes out with an explanation then the club will get (rightly) panned on social media. 

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It's ok because we're feeling much better after taking our medicine.

 

Now we can claim the moral high ground. 'Only Hearts' - not really appropriate for a good Christian club like ours. Looking after the wee-er and weaker clubs in our society is our raison de'tre. Happy to turn the other cheek for another slap if need be.

 

Time to move on and forgive and forget as all that other nasty stuff before is ancient history, in the dim and distant past, not impacting us at all now...

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There are too many Hearts supporters who would allow Budge and The Money spinner to walk into their homes, punch their kids in the face, kick a hole in their telly and have a shit in the middle of the carpet then ask them politely if they'd like a cup of tea.

 

 

 

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I don’t believe Ann Budge would have been directly responsible for making the decision to allow Zlamal to join St Mirren on loan.

 

That said, this incident sums up her entire tenure at the club.

 

As said elsewhere, those running the club just don’t get it.

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12 minutes ago, The Roller said:

I don’t believe Ann Budge would have been directly responsible for making the decision to allow Zlamal to join St Mirren on loan.

 

That said, this incident sums up her entire tenure at the club.

 

As said elsewhere, those running the club just don’t get it.

I expect Robbie will have got the call and the new CEO will have approved it. I doubt JJ was involved as he is more of an advisor than true DOF.

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7 minutes ago, Spellczech said:

I expect Robbie will have got the call and the new CEO will have approved it. I doubt JJ was involved as he is more of an advisor than true DOF.

Seems entirely possible. Managers generally have good relations with each other and I don’t think JJ has a day to day role. 

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1 hour ago, Ron Burgundy said:

There are too many Hearts supporters who would allow Budge and The Money spinner to walk into their homes, punch their kids in the face, kick a hole in their telly and have a shit in the middle of the carpet then ask them politely if they'd like a cup of tea.

 

 

 

That's a bit harsh.  I put a stop to it the minute I saw what they were going to do.

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Just watched the highlights.

 

Bobby needs a Jobby, about a 3 stoner will get him down to a decent fitness level. 

See why he was loaned out, it's not for a sell on that's for sure. More like keeping him away from his fridge. 

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1 hour ago, Bull's-eye said:

Just watched the highlights.

 

Bobby needs a Jobby, about a 3 stoner will get him down to a decent fitness level. 

See why he was loaned out, it's not for a sell on that's for sure. More like keeping him away from his fridge. 

Yet people are getting all worked up about us giving them a shite, unfit, out of practice keeper who shipped 3 goals and will probably concede double figures against sellik.

Their alternative was an outfield player or  a 40 year old goalkeeping coach. I'd say our "generosity" actually weakened them

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7 hours ago, Allowayjambo1874 said:


I don’t believe that’s how the majority of Hearts fans read it, however bash on with this narrative as it suits your stance.

 

How loaning a player out for 7 days works for us I will never know unless the loan fee is astronomical. This getting match fit rhetoric you are peddling, for a second string goalkeeper, is ludicrous.
 

Until someone comes out with an explanation then the club will get (rightly) panned on social media. 

Robbie already gave the explanation. There’s nothing else the club can say other than apologise for the lack of empathy with supporters views. Doubt that will happen.

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2 minutes ago, Pilmuir said:

Robbie already gave the explanation. There’s nothing else the club can say other than apologise for the lack of empathy with supporters views. Doubt that will happen.

And I doubt it calm the situation much, if at all. 

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26 minutes ago, davemclaren said:

And I doubt it calm the situation much, if at all. 

 

Pretending it didn't happen isn't going to do it either.

 

Quite a quandary for the SM team.

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2 hours ago, iainmac said:

 

Pretending it didn't happen isn't going to do it either.

 

Quite a quandary for the SM team.

Perhaps a statement acknowledging the anger and saying that nothing like this will happen again might be a start.

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27 minutes ago, Deevers said:

Perhaps a statement acknowledging the anger and saying that nothing like this will happen again might be a start.

I agree but It would seem that they are either cowards or don’t care what we think. The silence is deafening. 

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Just now, Toxteth O'Grady said:

I agree but It would seem that they are either cowards or don’t care what we think. The silence is deafening. 

It would seem that they are at a loss to deal with this issue properly. Staying silent and hoping it all just dissipates over the course of time seems to be the strategy of choice. If that is the thinking st the top of the tree, I’m afraid that once again they are totally reading the mood wrong yet again. 

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2 hours ago, iainmac said:

 

Pretending it didn't happen isn't going to do it either.

 

Quite a quandary for the SM team.


Pretending things haven’t happened or aren’t happening is this regime’s MO

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2 minutes ago, Deevers said:

It would seem that they are at a loss to deal with this issue properly. Staying silent and hoping it all just dissipates over the course of time seems to be the strategy of choice. If that is the thinking st the top of the tree, I’m afraid that once again they are totally reading the mood wrong yet again. 

Are they though? 
Robbie signs a couple more players and we start the season well and no-one gives a shit about this. That’s football

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3 minutes ago, Deevers said:

It would seem that they are at a loss to deal with this issue properly. Staying silent and hoping it all just dissipates over the course of time seems to be the strategy of choice. If that is the thinking st the top of the tree, I’m afraid that once again they are totally reading the mood wrong yet again. 

It is staggering how poor they are at relating to the paying customer. 

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2 minutes ago, Jamhammer said:

Are they though? 
Robbie signs a couple more players and we start the season well and no-one gives a shit about this. That’s football

The way we have been treated and by who will burn relentlessly for many no matter what. 

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38 minutes ago, Deevers said:

Perhaps a statement acknowledging the anger and saying that nothing like this will happen again might be a start.


But they can’t promise that. 
 

They have made a statement to explain the move. Whether we like that or not is a different t matter!

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7 minutes ago, Nookie Bear said:


But they can’t promise that. 
 

They have made a statement to explain the move. Whether we like that or not is a different t matter!

I think they’ll be well aware by now that the vast majority are unhappy. I fear that we are on our way to being push overs again and those that are currently running things at the club are more interested in getting back into Doncaster and Lawells good books than doing the right thing.

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Any possibility we've been leaned on by the SPFL to rescue them with the promise of something to our benefit later on?

 

Would definitely need it in writing first from that shower of shady charlatans.

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9 minutes ago, Boof said:

Any possibility we've been leaned on by the SPFL to rescue them with the promise of something to our benefit later on?

 

Would definitely need it in writing first from that shower of shady charlatans.


No, this is us just being feeble again 

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12 minutes ago, Boof said:

Any possibility we've been leaned on by the SPFL to rescue them with the promise of something to our benefit later on?

 

Would definitely need it in writing first from that shower of shady charlatans.


I had wondered that too.

 

What would have been on our wish list?
 

:interehjrling:

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9 hours ago, The Roller said:

I don’t believe Ann Budge would have been directly responsible for making the decision to allow Zlamal to join St Mirren on loan.

 

That said, this incident sums up her entire tenure at the club.

 

As said elsewhere, those running the club just don’t get it.

Heard that it was Budge. And that we made the first contact, not St Mirren. Could be rubbish mind you.

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31 minutes ago, Boof said:

Any possibility we've been leaned on by the SPFL to rescue them with the promise of something to our benefit later on?

 

Would definitely need it in writing first from that shower of shady charlatans.

 

We've been conned like that before - Reconstruction?

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5 minutes ago, Berra than you said:

Heard that it was Budge. And that we made the first contact, not St Mirren. Could be rubbish mind you.

Zlamal double agent.

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18 minutes ago, leginten said:


I had wondered that too.

 

What would have been on our wish list?
 

:interehjrling:

Did we get our sweetener with the fixtures list?

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14 minutes ago, Geoff Kilpatrick said:

Can you precis? Not clicking the link.

 

I clicked it twice on your behalf ^_^

 

Anyway, basis of story is that the penny is beginning to drop that the SPFL may not be entirely fair.

 

Who'da thunk it !!??

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11 minutes ago, Geoff Kilpatrick said:

Can you precis? Not clicking the link.

 

See you lazy *******s 😀

 

NO DOUBT' 

Celtic vs Rangers would not go ahead without three goalkeepers, says ex-St Mirren chief Gilmour

FORMER St Mirren chief Stewart Gilmour says 'you must believe in the tooth fairy' if you believe Celtic vs Rangers would go ahead with three goalkeepers missing.

 

The Buddies were forced to bring in Bobby Zlamal on an emergency loan after Jak Alnwick, Dean Lyness and Peter Urminsky were ruled out of their game against Hibs.

 

Alnwick and Lyness both tested positive for coronavirus while Urminsky was forced to self-isolate after coming into contact with his fellow goalkeepers.

 

That led to Hearts ace Zlamal being brought in on a temporary basis ahead of the meeting with Hibees which ended 3-0 to the Edinburgh side.

 

And Gilmour insists that there would be no chance of Celtic vs Rangers going ahead if a similar situation arose.

Speaking on BBC Sportsound, he said: "We keep going on about football integrity and that comes from the SPFL chief executive on a regular basis.

 

"And I do not think that having three players in a very specialised position being unavailable is football integrity. I just think that's totally wrong.

"I think we've set a very special precedent here.

"Are you trying to tell me that in the Old Firm game, if that happens, that the game will take place?

"I don't believe that. If you believe that I think you believe in the tooth fairy.

 

"If  one of Rangers or Celtic does not have one of their top three goalkeepers available, you think that game takes place?

"I think there would be no doubt that the game would not have taken place.

"I do think a goalkeeper position is absolutely completely different. I just think the whole decision is totally wrong.

 

"It undermines the integrity of football, in particular in Scottish football."

St Mirren face Celtic in a rearranged match on Wednesday after the initial clash was postponed following Boli Bolingoli's secret trip to Spain.

And Gilmour couldn't help but take a pop at the Belgian for his actions as he defended the Buddies players.

He said: "The most important thing for St Mirren Football Club is the health of the goalkeepers concerned.

 

"Obviously this was transmitted when they were training together as a group. From what I can see I don't think any of the St Mirren players have done anything wrong.

"They've not been outrageous, they've not gone to Spain and come back. They've not done that, they've played within what was asked of them."

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28 minutes ago, neilnunb said:

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/6044392/celtic-rangers-not-go-ahead-st-mirren-gilmour/

 

Boo****inghoo ya prick. Sporting integrity? St Mirren? Pull the other one. 

 

Fold ya horrible *****.

 

🖕🤣

 

I thought it was a bad idea to lend them Bobby, but I approve of Gilmour making these comments. The more people we can get calling out the SPFL the better.

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7 minutes ago, neilnunb said:

 

See you lazy *******s 😀

 

NO DOUBT' 

Celtic vs Rangers would not go ahead without three goalkeepers, says ex-St Mirren chief Gilmour

FORMER St Mirren chief Stewart Gilmour says 'you must believe in the tooth fairy' if you believe Celtic vs Rangers would go ahead with three goalkeepers missing.

 

The Buddies were forced to bring in Bobby Zlamal on an emergency loan after Jak Alnwick, Dean Lyness and Peter Urminsky were ruled out of their game against Hibs.

 

Alnwick and Lyness both tested positive for coronavirus while Urminsky was forced to self-isolate after coming into contact with his fellow goalkeepers.

 

That led to Hearts ace Zlamal being brought in on a temporary basis ahead of the meeting with Hibees which ended 3-0 to the Edinburgh side.

 

And Gilmour insists that there would be no chance of Celtic vs Rangers going ahead if a similar situation arose.

Speaking on BBC Sportsound, he said: "We keep going on about football integrity and that comes from the SPFL chief executive on a regular basis.

 

"And I do not think that having three players in a very specialised position being unavailable is football integrity. I just think that's totally wrong.

"I think we've set a very special precedent here.

"Are you trying to tell me that in the Old Firm game, if that happens, that the game will take place?

"I don't believe that. If you believe that I think you believe in the tooth fairy.

 

"If  one of Rangers or Celtic does not have one of their top three goalkeepers available, you think that game takes place?

"I think there would be no doubt that the game would not have taken place.

"I do think a goalkeeper position is absolutely completely different. I just think the whole decision is totally wrong.

 

"It undermines the integrity of football, in particular in Scottish football."

St Mirren face Celtic in a rearranged match on Wednesday after the initial clash was postponed following Boli Bolingoli's secret trip to Spain.

And Gilmour couldn't help but take a pop at the Belgian for his actions as he defended the Buddies players.

He said: "The most important thing for St Mirren Football Club is the health of the goalkeepers concerned.

 

"Obviously this was transmitted when they were training together as a group. From what I can see I don't think any of the St Mirren players have done anything wrong.

"They've not been outrageous, they've not gone to Spain and come back. They've not done that, they've played within what was asked of them."

Price of the *****. 

 

What a ****ing brass neck 

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1 minute ago, redjambo said:

 

I thought it was a bad idea to lend them Bobby, but I approve of Gilmour making these comments. The more people we can get calling out the SPFL the better.

 

 

He's right in that it would never have happened to the OF but do I have sympathy? Do I hell. 

 

It's not that long ago he was telling us we should accept relegation and move on, and if we weren't happy with the rules we should go and play elsewhere.

 

 

 

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28 minutes ago, neilnunb said:

 

See you lazy *******s 😀

 

NO DOUBT' 

Celtic vs Rangers would not go ahead without three goalkeepers, says ex-St Mirren chief Gilmour

FORMER St Mirren chief Stewart Gilmour says 'you must believe in the tooth fairy' if you believe Celtic vs Rangers would go ahead with three goalkeepers missing.

 

The Buddies were forced to bring in Bobby Zlamal on an emergency loan after Jak Alnwick, Dean Lyness and Peter Urminsky were ruled out of their game against Hibs.

 

Alnwick and Lyness both tested positive for coronavirus while Urminsky was forced to self-isolate after coming into contact with his fellow goalkeepers.

 

That led to Hearts ace Zlamal being brought in on a temporary basis ahead of the meeting with Hibees which ended 3-0 to the Edinburgh side.

 

And Gilmour insists that there would be no chance of Celtic vs Rangers going ahead if a similar situation arose.

Speaking on BBC Sportsound, he said: "We keep going on about football integrity and that comes from the SPFL chief executive on a regular basis.

 

"And I do not think that having three players in a very specialised position being unavailable is football integrity. I just think that's totally wrong.

"I think we've set a very special precedent here.

"Are you trying to tell me that in the Old Firm game, if that happens, that the game will take place?

"I don't believe that. If you believe that I think you believe in the tooth fairy.

 

"If  one of Rangers or Celtic does not have one of their top three goalkeepers available, you think that game takes place?

"I think there would be no doubt that the game would not have taken place.

"I do think a goalkeeper position is absolutely completely different. I just think the whole decision is totally wrong.

 

"It undermines the integrity of football, in particular in Scottish football."

St Mirren face Celtic in a rearranged match on Wednesday after the initial clash was postponed following Boli Bolingoli's secret trip to Spain.

And Gilmour couldn't help but take a pop at the Belgian for his actions as he defended the Buddies players.

He said: "The most important thing for St Mirren Football Club is the health of the goalkeepers concerned.

 

"Obviously this was transmitted when they were training together as a group. From what I can see I don't think any of the St Mirren players have done anything wrong.

"They've not been outrageous, they've not gone to Spain and come back. They've not done that, they've played within what was asked of them."

He’s right though. 
Just watched the highlights and Collum has had a nightmare, St Liedown should’ve had a penalty at 2-0 and Boyles goal is a handball. Hibs carrying some luck just now. 

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Just now, Pasquale for King said:

He’s right though. 
Just watched the highlights and Collum has had a nightmare, St Liedown should’ve had a penalty at 2-0 and Boyles goal is a handball. Hibs carrying some luck just now. 

 

As I said, it's not long ago Gilmour was ramming it right up us. I have no sympathy for him/St Mirren.

 

That penalty decision was laughable. Did Collum know he wasn't on live tv? 🤣

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Pasquale for King
6 minutes ago, neilnunb said:

 

As I said, it's not long ago Gilmour was ramming it right up us. I have no sympathy for him/St Mirren.

 

That penalty decision was laughable. Did Collum know he wasn't on live tv? 🤣

Yeah me neither but he’s still right, it was a disgraceful decision really. 
He’s missed two absolute clear handballs, did he get the green and white jerseys mixed up perhaps. To be honest if you get a two match ban for diving for a penalty Boyle should get it for punching th ball in the net. Cheating *******s 🙈

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I agree with the Fool , makes me mental but what he says is how it is. We all have reason to be pissy on this but the Facts will always show favoritism by the ruling Nobs  towards the bending over tactics both cheeks aimed directly and only bewteen the legs of the manky duo. Not on the left cheek not on the right cheek but, right in the groove.

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Maybe by doing St Mirren a favour Hearts are showing the SPFL up for what it is?

 

As I've posted before, I think we should have declined a loan, but as these situations arise and the obvious bias toward the OF becomes increasingly blatant, perhaps other teams eyes are opening to what we've seen for years?

 

In other words, was this a political move by Hearts to gain support for a future battle which, given the current Covid situation, may come sooner rather than later.

 

Compare to Lennon's crass comments regards fans in grounds, it may be we have a better grasp of the current landscape.

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1 hour ago, neilnunb said:

 

See you lazy *******s 😀

 

NO DOUBT' 

Celtic vs Rangers would not go ahead without three goalkeepers, says ex-St Mirren chief Gilmour

FORMER St Mirren chief Stewart Gilmour says 'you must believe in the tooth fairy' if you believe Celtic vs Rangers would go ahead with three goalkeepers missing.

 

The Buddies were forced to bring in Bobby Zlamal on an emergency loan after Jak Alnwick, Dean Lyness and Peter Urminsky were ruled out of their game against Hibs.

 

Alnwick and Lyness both tested positive for coronavirus while Urminsky was forced to self-isolate after coming into contact with his fellow goalkeepers.

 

That led to Hearts ace Zlamal being brought in on a temporary basis ahead of the meeting with Hibees which ended 3-0 to the Edinburgh side.

 

And Gilmour insists that there would be no chance of Celtic vs Rangers going ahead if a similar situation arose.

Speaking on BBC Sportsound, he said: "We keep going on about football integrity and that comes from the SPFL chief executive on a regular basis.

 

"And I do not think that having three players in a very specialised position being unavailable is football integrity. I just think that's totally wrong.

"I think we've set a very special precedent here.

"Are you trying to tell me that in the Old Firm game, if that happens, that the game will take place?

"I don't believe that. If you believe that I think you believe in the tooth fairy.

 

"If  one of Rangers or Celtic does not have one of their top three goalkeepers available, you think that game takes place?

"I think there would be no doubt that the game would not have taken place.

"I do think a goalkeeper position is absolutely completely different. I just think the whole decision is totally wrong.

 

"It undermines the integrity of football, in particular in Scottish football."

St Mirren face Celtic in a rearranged match on Wednesday after the initial clash was postponed following Boli Bolingoli's secret trip to Spain.

And Gilmour couldn't help but take a pop at the Belgian for his actions as he defended the Buddies players.

He said: "The most important thing for St Mirren Football Club is the health of the goalkeepers concerned.

 

"Obviously this was transmitted when they were training together as a group. From what I can see I don't think any of the St Mirren players have done anything wrong.

"They've not been outrageous, they've not gone to Spain and come back. They've not done that, they've played within what was asked of them."

Who knew?

 

GIRUY Gilmour and your shitstain of a club.

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Whilst we are on the topic of sportsound.

Kenny McIntyre was hosting, asking listeners to get in touch. Before moving on from the St Midden talk, he read out two emails/texts regarding the topic they had all been discussing for the previous forty minutes.

The first was from "Dave" ... " It's nonsense that Hearts deserve any credit for the loan of their player, they did it because it suited them".

 

Cheers "Dave".

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20 minutes ago, Felix Lighter said:

Whilst we are on the topic of sportsound.

Kenny McIntyre was hosting, asking listeners to get in touch. Before moving on from the St Midden talk, he read out two emails/texts regarding the topic they had all been discussing for the previous forty minutes.

The first was from "Dave" ... " It's nonsense that Hearts deserve any credit for the loan of their player, they did it because it suited them".

 

Cheers "Dave".

 

And in a nutshell we have the result of "we need to build bridges and can't have everyone hating us all the time". Before you know it history will have been re-written to give us no credit. Same as Budge's role in the Anderson investment in Scottish football was quickly forgotten or was dismissed as Anderson would have invested regardless and it was nothing to do with Hearts. Shouldn't be a surprise I guess, we already have Hearts fans claiming we did this only because it benefited us as much as it did St Mirren, ignoring that even Goodwin has acknowledged we did them a massive favour.

 

I also see that one of their keepers is available for the Celtic game. Will be interesting to see who they play. If Zlamal is on the bench it would really show up the "but Bobby is getting competitive games" and "its putting Zlamal in the shop window" for the rubbish that most us knew it was.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/54156066

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35 minutes ago, Saint Jambo said:

 

And in a nutshell we have the result of "we need to build bridges and can't have everyone hating us all the time". Before you know it history will have been re-written to give us no credit. Same as Budge's role in the Anderson investment in Scottish football was quickly forgotten or was dismissed as Anderson would have invested regardless and it was nothing to do with Hearts. Shouldn't be a surprise I guess, we already have Hearts fans claiming we did this only because it benefited us as much as it did St Mirren, ignoring that even Goodwin has acknowledged we did them a massive favour.

 

I also see that one of their keepers is available for the Celtic game. Will be interesting to see who they play. If Zlamal is on the bench it would really show up the "but Bobby is getting competitive games" and "its putting Zlamal in the shop window" for the rubbish that most us knew it was.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/54156066

 

I was more kinda alluding to the text that was read out as being pretty much irrelevant in the context of what was being discussed on the program.

For me it was another cheap shot at Hearts by the bbc and "Dave" was likely a figment of McIntyres imagination.

It's not difficult to imagine the reaction from them had Hearts told St Midden to ram it. 

I agree with much of your post, I was seething on Saturday when I found out but have calmed down now and I wonder if there are reasons, which the club would rather not go into, for agreeing. They may have viewed it as too small a victory to be worth bothering about. Remember what AB said about losing battles but winning the war. To win a war sometimes you have to concede ground.  

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