St Mirren player tests positive for Covid - Zlamal signs on loan

[Guest ToqueJambo]

7 hours ago, Boris said:

Maybe by doing St Mirren a favour Hearts are showing the SPFL up for what it is?

 

As I've posted before, I think we should have declined a loan, but as these situations arise and the obvious bias toward the OF becomes increasingly blatant, perhaps other teams eyes are opening to what we've seen for years?

 

In other words, was this a political move by Hearts to gain support for a future battle which, given the current Covid situation, may come sooner rather than later.

 

Compare to Lennon's crass comments regards fans in grounds, it may be we have a better grasp of the current landscape.

 

This is absolutely what has happened. And we've shown up the other clubs for being incredibly petty by not stooping to their level. We've led the way from the start during this crisis - from Budge taking an honest and realistic approach to wages to bringing millions in donations to the game to our reconstruction proposals.

 

Yes, we've been treated like shit throughout but that's not our problem. It's very clearly been the other clubs' problem. A few journalists have written about this but so many of the other clubs acted so badly that they seem to feel there's safety in numbers, so they've done nothing to make amends. Now that "unity" of everyone vs Hearts has broken down and they're all in fighting again. They've acted like complete ***** basically and they all know it, hence the defensiveness of many fans of other clubs notably St Mirren.

 

Folk saying we're soft as a club are off their rocker. We've literally just spent the summer suing our own governing body and taking on almost the whole of Scottish football, never giving in at any stage.

Edited September 15, 2020 by ToqueJambo

[iainmac]

2 hours ago, ToqueJambo said:

 

This is absolutely what has happened. And we've shown up the other clubs for being incredibly petty by not stooping to their level. We've led the way from the start during this crisis - from Budge taking an honest and realistic approach to wages to bringing millions in donations to the game to our reconstruction proposals.

 

Yes, we've been treated like shit throughout but that's not our problem. It's very clearly been the other clubs' problem. A few journalists have written about this but so many of the other clubs acted so badly that they seem to feel there's safety in numbers, so they've done nothing to make amends. Now that "unity" of everyone vs Hearts has broken down and they're all in fighting again. They've acted like complete ***** basically and they all know it, hence the defensiveness of many fans of other clubs notably St Mirren.

 

Folk saying we're soft as a club are off their rocker. We've literally just spent the summer suing our own governing body and taking on almost the whole of Scottish football, never giving in at any stage.

 

This post has been brought to you  by "Shills R Us". 

[Hagar the Horrible]

Now that the anger has disipated and calmed down to just a rage.  Tying to look at if from another angle,  Hearts have shown real class.  Jim Goodwin has also said so, he has also said that they owe us one. probably or at least should feel embarased about the #heartbreakers fiasco.  Goodwin also is out of touch with reality calling just fans banter....naw its total hatred.

 

St Mirren have just felt the full weight of incompetence against them.  Yes they nearly played with an out-fielder in goals,  this will happen again.  Games could be called off right left and centre otherwise.  One would hope St Mirren will use any future voting wisely.

 

Kill them with kindness, well up to a point.

 

We still keep our club afloat, regardless of the circumstancies or the regime in charge. forget being socialy distant, our current regime are moraly distant from the fans.  Yes we could all be in the wrong, and she is right, sometimes we have to suck it up, but sometimes the regime should suck it up and accept the old cliche give them what they want, has worked for 2 thousand years.

 

As far as St Mirren are concerned we showed class that they lacked. we had the keeper stranded and its an open goal, we chose not to take it, but when the opertunity comes to kill off somebody, we better dam well take it.  That could come in a vote when clubs start to run like lemmings over a cliff edge.  At that point we turn and walk away. no help at all.  In fact we stick our size ten boot on top of their heads when they start drowning in the human excrement olympic sized swimming pool they created.

 

We dont forgive nor forget, even if we do throw a scrap of kindness to a club on top of our treat with extreme predudice list of clubs

 

Keep your friends close and your enemies closer

[Nookie Bear]

Just now, Hagar the Horrible said:

Now that the anger has disipated and calmed down to just a rage.  Tying to look at if from another angle,  Hearts have shown real class.  Jim Goodwin has also said so, he has also said that they owe us one. probably or at least should feel embarased about the #heartbreakers fiasco.  Goodwin also is out of touch with reality calling just fans banter....naw its total hatred.

 

St Mirren have just felt the full weight of incompetence against them.  Yes they nearly played with an out-fielder in goals,  this will happen again.  Games could be called off right left and centre otherwise.  One would hope St Mirren will use any future voting wisely.

 

Kill them with kindness, well up to a point.

 

We still keep our club afloat, regardless of the circumstancies or the regime in charge. forget being socialy distant, our current regime are moraly distant from the fans.  Yes we could all be in the wrong, and she is right, sometimes we have to suck it up, but sometimes the regime should suck it up and accept the old cliche give them what they want, has worked for 2 thousand years.

 

As far as St Mirren are concerned we showed class that they lacked. we had the keeper stranded and its an open goal, we chose not to take it, but when the opertunity comes to kill off somebody, we better dam well take it.  That could come in a vote when clubs start to run like lemmings over a cliff edge.  At that point we turn and walk away. no help at all.  In fact we stick our size ten boot on top of their heads when they start drowning in the human excrement olympic sized swimming pool they created.

 

We dont forgive nor forget, even if we do throw a scrap of kindness to a club on top of our treat with extreme predudice list of clubs

 

Keep your friends close and your enemies closer

 

You know what would be nice? St Mirren publicly thanking us throught the same twitter account they used to have a laugh at our expense.

 

I know it's not that important, but still...

[Hagar the Horrible]

1 minute ago, Nookie Bear said:

 

You know what would be nice? St Mirren publicly thanking us throught the same twitter account they used to have a laugh at our expense.

 

I know it's not that important, but still...

To be fair JG did that on sportsound, he tried to play the the whole situation down as just friendly rivary banter.  He pretty much went on about just about how much class Hearts and Robbie have,  There were enraged about having to play, and even more so by the fingers in the ears when the statement just get somebody on loan.  Their problem was there was 27 goalkeepers on the list, but as none were tested, by the time the testing would have been done, that keeper could not have played.  St Mirren were lucky that Hearts were not being knobs, but showed up the SPFL once again for what it is.  They were lucky were were back in full training and doing tests, something other clubs tried to stop us doing.   This has exposed that point, if anybody finds themselves in the same predicament.

 

St Mirren have now said they owe us one big time!  They have now realised themselves that they were just puppets of Liewell, and are not part of the inner circle.  The SPFL serve one club and one club only.  They have just woken up smelt the coffee and took a big slug of Red Bull and Buckfast.  But yes they could have posted on twitter just how much class Hearts have!

 

Their rage in nothing compared to what was done to us, and we will have justice!!!!!

 

All that aside, the enemy of my ememy etc. 

[DETTY29]

So why St. Mirren would have went with an outfield player if no Zamal.

 

The size of Langfield.

[Ex member of the SaS]

What we must remember is Goodwin will have little or no say in how THEY react to a future hammering of Hearts. Goodwin might be all  " but boss they help us out " and the board will be saying feck Hearts if it means we gain 50p.

[Saint Jambo]

1 hour ago, iainmac said:

 

This post has been brought to you  by "Shills R Us". 

 

"Yes, we've been treated like shit throughout but that's not our problem."

 

Indeed. Not our problem? I could have sworn that being treated like shit led to us not having a game on Saturday while St Mirren did. It led to us being in the Championship. It led to us needing to try to sue the SPFL for £8m that we will lose this year. But apparently none of that is a problem for us now. Some posters have really jumped the shark trying to defend this one.

[iainmac]

Just now, Ex member of the SaS said:

What we must remember is Goodwin will have little or no say in how THEY react to a future hammering of Hearts. Goodwin might be all  " but boss they help us out " and the board will be saying feck Hearts if it means we gain 50p.

 

There are too many people - including the Board - who refuse to even contemplate this but it's reality. 

[iainmac]

2 minutes ago, Saint Jambo said:

 

"Yes, we've been treated like shit throughout but that's not our problem."

 

Indeed. Not our problem? I could have sworn that being treated like shit led to us not having a game on Saturday while St Mirren did. It led to us being in the Championship. It led to us needing to try to sue the SPFL for £8m that we will lose this year. But apparently none of that is a problem for us now. Some posters have really jumped the shark trying to defend this one.

 

Not our problem according to Goebbels. 

[Saint Jambo]

9 minutes ago, Hagar the Horrible said:

Their problem was there was 27 goalkeepers on the list, but as none were tested, by the time the testing would have been done, that keeper could not have played.  St Mirren were lucky that Hearts were not being knobs, but showed up the SPFL once again for what it is.  They were lucky were were back in full training and doing tests, something other clubs tried to stop us doing.   This has exposed that point, if anybody finds themselves in the same predicament.

 

Are emergency loans between teams in the same league not allowed? Genuine question. I've seen a number of people post that we were literally the only team in a position to provide them with a goalkeeper for Saturday. But that would suggest that loans between teams in the Premiership weren't allowed, which is news to me.

[iainmac]

1 minute ago, Saint Jambo said:

 

Are emergency loans between teams in the same league not allowed? Genuine question. I've seen a number of people post that we were literally the only team in a position to provide them with a goalkeeper for Saturday. But that would suggest that loans between teams in the Premiership weren't allowed, which is news to me.

 

Greg Docherty / Glen Middleton / Jamie Murphy etc. 

 

Loans between Premiership clubs are not the issue. 

Edited September 15, 2020 by iainmac

[Dazo]

3 minutes ago, Ex member of the SaS said:

What we must remember is Goodwin will have little or no say in how THEY react to a future hammering of Hearts. Goodwin might be all  " but boss they help us out " and the board will be saying feck Hearts if it means we gain 50p.

What we must also remember that this was Robbie’s decision and maybe his relationship with Goodwin is such that the deal got done. Robbie has a job to do and can’t be getting involved in non footballing issues that may hinder that. 

[iainmac]

Just now, Dazo said:

What we must also remember that this was Robbie’s decision and maybe his relationship with Goodwin is such that the deal got done. Robbie has a job to do and can’t be getting involved in non footballing issues that may hinder that. 

 

Fair enough but someone above him should've stepped in and put him straight on the likely consequences. 

[Nookie Bear]

18 minutes ago, Hagar the Horrible said:

To be fair JG did that on sportsound, he tried to play the the whole situation down as just friendly rivary banter.  He pretty much went on about just about how much class Hearts and Robbie have,  There were enraged about having to play, and even more so by the fingers in the ears when the statement just get somebody on loan.  Their problem was there was 27 goalkeepers on the list, but as none were tested, by the time the testing would have been done, that keeper could not have played.  St Mirren were lucky that Hearts were not being knobs, but showed up the SPFL once again for what it is.  They were lucky were were back in full training and doing tests, something other clubs tried to stop us doing.   This has exposed that point, if anybody finds themselves in the same predicament.

 

St Mirren have now said they owe us one big time!  They have now realised themselves that they were just puppets of Liewell, and are not part of the inner circle.  The SPFL serve one club and one club only.  They have just woken up smelt the coffee and took a big slug of Red Bull and Buckfast.  But yes they could have posted on twitter just how much class Hearts have!

 

Their rage in nothing compared to what was done to us, and we will have justice!!!!!

 

All that aside, the enemy of my ememy etc. 

 

Cheers 👍, had forgotten about Goodwin's comments.

[Dazo]

2 minutes ago, iainmac said:

 

Fair enough but someone above him should've stepped in and put him straight on the likely consequences. 

I think we will have far better opportunities to stick the knife in, certainly as supporters we will. 

[Hagar the Horrible]

I think there has been exceptions, but again it was only because were are in full test mode so we can play friendlies again that they were lucky that we had a keeper on the books elligible to play, and one we want off our books.  They could have gone to England though, or got Ryan Stevenson...

 

I would still like to use this as a warning to other clubs, who complained that we were in training giving an unfair advantage, Just as well that we did.

 

JG also stated that Him and St Mirren would have had no problem with Hearts if we turned our backs on them, but it was testament to us that we did'nt

[Dazo]

23 minutes ago, Hagar the Horrible said:

To be fair JG did that on sportsound, he tried to play the the whole situation down as just friendly rivary banter.  He pretty much went on about just about how much class Hearts and Robbie have,  There were enraged about having to play, and even more so by the fingers in the ears when the statement just get somebody on loan.  Their problem was there was 27 goalkeepers on the list, but as none were tested, by the time the testing would have been done, that keeper could not have played.  St Mirren were lucky that Hearts were not being knobs, but showed up the SPFL once again for what it is.  They were lucky were were back in full training and doing tests, something other clubs tried to stop us doing.   This has exposed that point, if anybody finds themselves in the same predicament.

 

St Mirren have now said they owe us one big time!  They have now realised themselves that they were just puppets of Liewell, and are not part of the inner circle.  The SPFL serve one club and one club only.  They have just woken up smelt the coffee and took a big slug of Red Bull and Buckfast.  But yes they could have posted on twitter just how much class Hearts have!

 

Their rage in nothing compared to what was done to us, and we will have justice!!!!!

 

All that aside, the enemy of my ememy etc. 

 

Exactly why the bitterness and revenge should be carried out by us and not the club. Acting with class, dignity and professionalism shouldn’t be used as a stick to hit the club with imo. 

[iainmac]

1 minute ago, Dazo said:

 

Exactly why the bitterness and revenge should be carried out by us and not the club. Acting with class, dignity and professionalism shouldn’t be used as a stick to hit the club with imo. 

 

All they had to say was "no, Craig Gordon is carrying an injury".

 

That's it.

[Dazo]

Just now, iainmac said:

 

All they had to say was "no, Craig Gordon is carrying an injury".

 

That's it.

And when it transpires that wasn’t reason the RN tarnishes his relationship with a follow coach ? Not sure that’s to his or our benefit. We clearly aren’t going to agree so may as well leave it there but I don’t think this was the correct occasion to be petty. 

[The Treasurer]

3 minutes ago, iainmac said:

 

All they had to say was "no, Craig Gordon is carrying an injury".

 

That's it.

We've (rightly) slammed other clubs for blatant lies. Why would you want us to stoop to their level ?

[iainmac]

4 minutes ago, The Treasurer said:

We've (rightly) slammed other clubs for blatant lies. Why would you want us to stoop to their level ?

 

Where is the lie ?

 

CG was carrying an injury - he didn't flay against Sheffield United.

[D4lien]

Gilmour said this about us during the fiasco over the summer... 

 

"If you don’t want to abide by what the league decides and the league rules then go and play somewhere else, go and find another league.”

 

So he can get tae!  They can join the National League North or Rymans league... Or maybe Goal 5 a side at Clydebank is more their level! 

Edited September 15, 2020 by D4lien
Correcting a mistake

[The Treasurer]

1 minute ago, iainmac said:

 

Where is the lie ?

 

CG was carrying an injury - he didn't flay against Sheffield United.

He's played twice since then (Burnley and the internal match)

[Saint Jambo]

7 minutes ago, Dazo said:

And when it transpires that wasn’t reason the RN tarnishes his relationship with a follow coach ? Not sure that’s to his or our benefit. We clearly aren’t going to agree so may as well leave it there but I don’t think this was the correct occasion to be petty. 

 

6 minutes ago, The Treasurer said:

We've (rightly) slammed other clubs for blatant lies. Why would you want us to stoop to their level ?

 

We could have just said 'no, sorry he isn't available'. Same as clubs do all the time when they receive a transfer enquiry from another club. There would have been nothing unprofessional about that. Even giving a brutally honest answer "no he isn't available because it will really anger lots of our supporters to be seen to be doing you a favour after you totally shafted us in the summer and have spent the week taking the piss out of us about in through your club's official communication channels" would have been a perfectly professional response. This idea that we were some moral obligation to loan a player is truly bizarre.

[Pilmuir]

54 minutes ago, Hagar the Horrible said:

To be fair JG did that on sportsound, he tried to play the the whole situation down as just friendly rivary banter.  He pretty much went on about just about how much class Hearts and Robbie have,  There were enraged about having to play, and even more so by the fingers in the ears when the statement just get somebody on loan.  Their problem was there was 27 goalkeepers on the list, but as none were tested, by the time the testing would have been done, that keeper could not have played.  St Mirren were lucky that Hearts were not being knobs, but showed up the SPFL once again for what it is.  They were lucky were were back in full training and doing tests, something other clubs tried to stop us doing.   This has exposed that point, if anybody finds themselves in the same predicament.

 

St Mirren have now said they owe us one big time!  They have now realised themselves that they were just puppets of Liewell, and are not part of the inner circle.  The SPFL serve one club and one club only.  They have just woken up smelt the coffee and took a big slug of Red Bull and Buckfast.  But yes they could have posted on twitter just how much class Hearts have!

 

Their rage in nothing compared to what was done to us, and we will have justice!!!!!

 

All that aside, the enemy of my ememy etc. 

JG is good at public relations to be fair to him. Don’t believe for a minute that St Mirren would have helped us in the same situation. They certainly didn’t help us with the SPFL relegation debacle and seem to enjoy taunting us about it. Until we see their attitude changing his nice words mean nothing.

[DETTY29]

18 minutes ago, D4lien said:

Gilmour said this about us during the fiasco over the summer... 

 

"If you don’t want to abide by what the league decides and the league rules then go and play somewhere else, go and find another league.”

 

So he can get tae!  They can join the National League North or Rymans league... Or maybe Goal 5 a side at Clydebank is more their level! 

So basically Hearts have shown a level of class well above anyone else in the league.

[AndrewB]

24 minutes ago, The Treasurer said:

He's played twice since then (Burnley and the internal match)

No, I've watched the goals from the Burnley match.  CG was definitely carrying an injury.  Wasn't he?  Please tell me he was!😃

[AndrewB]

59 minutes ago, Ex member of the SaS said:

What we must remember is Goodwin will have little or no say in how THEY react to a future hammering of Hearts. Goodwin might be all  " but boss they help us out " and the board will be saying feck Hearts if it means we gain 50p.

Agree.

If the season closes down in March and we are top while St Mirren are second bottom, they'll say "end the season."  Which makes them good guys.  If we are top and they are bottom and they say "don't end the season" that makes them bad guys.

It will be NOTHING to do with ZZ loans or what Neilson, Jeffries, Andrew McKinlay, Budge, Goodwin, Gilmour, Fitzpatrick or anyone says or does now.

[Gambo]

We should be sitting here pissing ourselves laughing at Gilmours statement, but thanks to Neilson we can hardly break into a grin.

[Pasquale for King]

1 hour ago, DETTY29 said:

So why St. Mirren would have went with an outfield player if no Zamal.

 

The size of Langfield.

Not a good example to set your GKs, especially when you’re still training everyday. 

[Pasquale for King]

35 minutes ago, The Treasurer said:

He's played twice since then (Burnley and the internal match)

He was on the bench for both teams in the internal match, did he come on?

[WDJ87]

36 minutes ago, D4lien said:

Gilmour said this about us during the fiasco over the summer... 

 

"If you don’t want to abide by what the league decides and the league rules then go and play somewhere else, go and find another league.”

 

So he can get tae!  They can join the National League North or Rymans league... Or maybe Goal 5 a side at Clydebank is more their level! 

This. Absolute welt of a man, have to agree with his points about the ugly 2 but still **** him.

[AndrewB]

Message to Gilmour:

Read through many, many posts from here and you'll see the phrase "Karma is a bitch" often.

[The Treasurer]

18 minutes ago, AndrewB said:

No, I've watched the goals from the Burnley match.  CG was definitely carrying an injury.  Wasn't he?  Please tell me he was!😃

I think it's called Joel-itis

[Hagar the Horrible]

33 minutes ago, Pilmuir said:

JG is good at public relations to be fair to him. Don’t believe for a minute that St Mirren would have helped us in the same situation. They certainly didn’t help us with the SPFL relegation debacle and seem to enjoy taunting us about it. Until we see their attitude changing his nice words mean nothing.

They admitted that, they would not give the skid marks off their Y fronts to us.  Which is why they were humbled by our generosity.

 

18 minutes ago, Gambo said:

We should be sitting here pissing ourselves laughing at Gilmours statement, but thanks to Neilson we can hardly break into a grin.

True, but now they know beyond any doubt the SPFL are only intersted in Celtic.  We dont trust them 1 iota but they owe us.   It would have been a laugh, and my rage is only just disipating.  But St Mirren still got a kick in the balls it would have been priceless either playing a fat coach or a defender in goals, while the irony not being lost screaming of integrity.  This will happen again and we will laugh, we dont have to help everybody.

 

  But if it happens to us St Mirren will be obliged to help us out now.

 

And when there is an excrement and fan collision with clubs having a cash flow situation they will all collapse quicker than a Nigerian Pyramid Scheme.  The laugh then will be never ending

[Hagar the Horrible]

Uefa state games can be played as long as clubs have 13 players. Is this adopted by the SPFL?

Yes, but clubs can apply for games to be postponed if they feel they are being unfairly disadvantaged. These cases would be decided on a case-by-case basis by SPFL after consultation with the Joint Response Group and the Scottish Government.

 

Lets now see the seethe St Mirren have if the hamilton game is off

[AndrewB]

5 minutes ago, Hagar the Horrible said:

Uefa state games can be played as long as clubs have 13 players. Is this adopted by the SPFL?

Yes, but clubs can apply for games to be postponed if they feel they are being unfairly disadvantaged. These cases would be decided on a case-by-case basis by SPFL after consultation with the Joint Response Group and the Scottish Government.

 

Lets now see the seethe St Mirren have if the hamilton game is off

Interesting.  Why did Linfield get a walkover in the early round of the Champions League?  Their opponents had two positive tests, so UEFA awarded Linfield the tie.  Seems UEFA, SPFL and everyone makes it up as they go along.

 

[leginten]

7 minutes ago, Hagar the Horrible said:

 

True, but now they know beyond any doubt the SPFL are only intersted in Celtic.  We dont trust them 1 iota but they owe us.  

I think St Mirren have long been aware of this. Any club which lets Celtic run a shop from its own stand is more or less part of the apparatus. As for Gilmour complaining about it now...

 

All this stuff about St Mirren “owing us”. How long will Goodwin be in post? Neilson? Budge? It’s all very tenuous. 

[DETTY29]

10 minutes ago, Hagar the Horrible said:

Uefa state games can be played as long as clubs have 13 players. Is this adopted by the SPFL?

Yes, but clubs can apply for games to be postponed if they feel they are being unfairly disadvantaged. These cases would be decided on a case-by-case basis by SPFL after consultation with the Joint Response Group and the Scottish Government.

 

Lets now see the seethe St Mirren have if the hamilton game is off

Don't see why it is so difficult, especially when no meat in fixture list.

 

Can't put a team up, opposition awarded game.  Both can't play, 0.0 but no points.

 

Only issue would be if a local or national lock down meaning govt. stops games.

 

If SG , JRG say clubs must test twice weekly and you can't afford, opposition get awarded points on same basis.

[Hagar the Horrible]

 So there has been more grumblings today about fans being allowed to return to venues, The Brighton, Aberdeen and County games proved a good test, however the exercise cost more money than it earned.  Playing BCD is the cheaper option for most clubs, and indeed sports

 

Senior sport officials will meet the UK government this week to discuss the return of fans to venues.

Last week, the government restricted pilot events to 1,000 spectators after a rise in coronavirus cases, and said plans for grounds to be up to a third full from 1 October would be reviewed.

Digital, Culture, Media and Sport (DCMS) Secretary of State Oliver Dowden will now meet with stakeholders.  As such no more test events have been confirmed.

 

The Premier League says around £100m per month will be lost by clubs across the leagues while matches continue behind closed doors and it is one of a number of sports bodies to have voiced concerns at the financial impact of an extended period with empty venues.

 

Oh what a shame, Chelsea has just spent £200m on just a few players to go for the league.  So far the EPL has lost over £700m and despite that only 5 clubs pay the living wage to non playing staff.  Perhaps for a time the League could split all TV money evenly across all 4 divisions, That would keep all clubs afloat, and the top 20 could perhaps pay players a living wage, rather than a living like  Banana republic general wage.  Football cannot look to the tax payer for any assistance when they have it their power to help themselves, and that includes our league!

 

'We wouldn't last the season'

Gloucester chief executive Lance Bradley told BBC Radio 4 that level of restriction would be "a disaster" if put in place for the remainder of the season.

"We simply have to get fans back in reasonable numbers as soon as possible to ensure the game survives," said Bradley. "We can't keep going losing money with 1,000 or 2,000 fans.

"We wouldn't be able to make it through the season if we were only allowed crowds of 2,500."  So mothball for a year then.  Rugby is at the same level as our league, so a good comparison.

 

Neil Lennon was also harping on about fans returning when it was OK for American Football to have 1 game with 20k fans at it. Yeah but they think that buying guns will protect them from Covid! That moron just does not get, just because *celtic are at the forefront  showing world sport on how to do things properly behind the scenes, god bless and hail hail the almighty above redemption Celtic.  They can’t do anymore they stated, well they could have kept all the players passports for a start!  What they just don’t get, is they don’t have control in any capacity of their scummy fans.  Who in their catchment area of Greater Glasgow, the infection rate is out of control.

 

It would be folly to push for more test games until the next review 2 weeks on Thursday,  But with the season for most starting on 3 weeks on Saturday, there is not a Covid chance in Kansas of games having fans until the rate drops back down below 1 again.   So will having to start the season BCD will hurt most clubs and panic a lot more.  Playing only a few test games proved for Brighton and the RFU a very costly exercise.   BDC might prove more cost effective for a lot of clubs. 

 

The rule of 6 extended for 3 further weeks will see who blinks.  That would ensure test events will be very low priority and ensure the season start with no fans.  Hamilton must now have woken up the SPFL?

 

The SFA and the SPFL are still in the belief that this will just all go away, There will be NO fans at their precious OF game, and none in the Semi, and what’s the point of having a 1000 fans each at a final, where is the fairness of that?  They have no contingency nor ensured commitment.  Leadership is required and there is just none.  Fate has not thrown up anything yet, we have a winter coming with every bug, lurgie  Flu or sniffle causing players and clubs to panic.

 

A bond should be paid into an escrow account of £100k, £50k and £25k respectively for each of the 3 lower leagues per clubs to ensure that they can start and finish the season, failure to do so, that bond gets split between those who can finish!  There is just over 3 weeks to go, and nobody has blinked first, but Furlough is ending. So unless you club can survive on just 300 fans per week, which there is a few, then in order of cost effectiveness its Mothballing, BCD and finally limited fans.

 

Lets see how the SPFL treat Hamilton compared to St Mirren and Compared to us and will our league just be mothballed?

 

A vaccine is P1  at least getting the R number back to below 0.5 might help.  For me an Uzi 9mm each and we can just blast the shit out of it, God bless America!

 

[Hagar the Horrible]

The Elite Ice Hockey League has announced the indefinite suspension of the 2020-21 season.  this is the UK league

 

They cant affoard to play with anything less than 75% capacity.  But they know fans wont be allowed until next year, So they have mothballed

[Dazo]

Top flight football playing in front of a few hundred supporters is utterly pointless and genuinely I’ve no idea what they think those sort of test crowds will achieve. 

[iainmac]

2 minutes ago, Dazo said:

Top flight football playing in front of a few hundred supporters is utterly pointless and genuinely I’ve no idea what they think those sort of test crowds will achieve. 

 

It's just not viable. 

[Dazo]

1 minute ago, iainmac said:

 

It's just not viable. 

Yep bordering on stupidity testing such a small crowd in big stadiums. 

[iainmac]

2 minutes ago, Dazo said:

Yep bordering on stupidity testing such a small crowd in big stadiums. 

 

That'll be the reason given when Championship (and below) Chairmen start lobbying Doncaster to mothball the lower leagues. 

[davemclaren]

14 minutes ago, Dazo said:

Yep bordering on stupidity testing such a small crowd in big stadiums. 

It’s a first step to test And learn how things work, or don’t. Stadiums won’t open to ‘real’ crowds until a much higher number are allowed. 

[true-jambo]

17 minutes ago, iainmac said:

 

That'll be the reason given when Championship (and below) Chairmen start lobbying Doncaster to mothball the lower leagues. 

I am sure this has probably been posted, but how many championship clubs are back training?

[Dazo]

7 minutes ago, davemclaren said:

It’s a first step to test And learn how things work, or don’t. Stadiums won’t open to ‘real’ crowds until a much higher number are allowed. 

I get that but what do 20k stadiums learn letting 300 people in ? I’d suggest **** all. 

Edited September 15, 2020 by Dazo

[davemclaren]

4 minutes ago, Dazo said:

I get that but what do 20k stadiums learn letting 300 people in ? I’d suggest **** all. 

They did similar at Murray field two weeks earlier. Starting off small to test processes etc.. seems sensible to me then build up numbers. All moot now given the covid numbers are higher.