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Just now, Malinga the Swinga said:

Would maybe delete that one if I am honest.

Yip I would too!

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George Cowie
19 minutes ago, TheBigO said:

She can shite on my chest if she wants


Seriously weird ! Do you live out by the airport ?

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2 minutes ago, hughesie27 said:

We are struggling to get 11 teams to vote for recon and you think a way of getting around this would be to get 11 teams to back a vote structure change in order to get league recon through easier? And you failed to spot the major flaw in your thinking?

 

Fair point.

 

It's just for once Celtic and Rangers both want reconstruction so might be desperate enough to change the voting system so they get to play in Europe etc.

 

All other clubs should be up for a permanent change in the voting system.

 

The clubs who are against reconstruction - Hibs, Ross County and possibly Hamilton - are under huge pressure to change their minds. Voting to change the voting system allows them to vote for reconstruction safe in the knowledge it will still go through and they won't be held responsible for a multi million pound compensation claim.

 

OK it's not going to happen but there was a bit of logic to my thinking somewhere in there!

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50 minutes ago, Scunnered One said:

 

That kind of screws the 11-1 vote that's required.

 

I honestly think that we're pissing against the wind. I'm not 100% convinced that we'll even win a court case as ND and his cohorts will have every legal base covered and I fear it will be good money ill-spent.

 

What a mess!!!

 

26 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said:


😂 hibs as ****.. did you miss the part when just one of our benefactors recently donated 3.25million our of the good of his hearts 


🤣😂 Not any effort to hide the hibsness eh! 
 

ND having anything covered? 😂🤣 Do me a favour. The guy is an absolute numpty. Anyone associated with the SPFL - ditto. 
 

It is a mess - I’ll grant you that. A mess the SPFL singlehandedly caused by rushing through their nonsensical initial proposal.

 

Now we will sit back, relax and watch our club either be rightfully reinstated or take the SPFL to court causing other clubs all kinds of problems.
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Just now, George Cowie said:


Seriously weird ! Do you live out by the airport ?

You comim roond like?

 

Save us fi demotion n I'll give you a post code!

 

Sicko.

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1 minute ago, Morgan said:

It’s been quoted about five times!

 

:biggrin:

Saughtons next t-shirt I reckon!!

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Just now, Fluorescent Adolescent said:

 


Accept my apologies 

Makes no odds to me.  :) 

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The Verminator
29 minutes ago, Lfhearts said:

LD is a rangers fan, as for politics no chance, she has a sales/marketing background, was a friend of a friend and was at a Rangers game abroad with him and a few others a good 10 years ago.

I`m sure I read somewhere that she was actually a season ticket holder at Ibrox - anyone else remember that?

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2 hours ago, Selkirkhmfc1874 said:

Only ever posted what been told in this thread buddy and things have been changing on a daily basis over the last few weeks but crunch time coming now 

Yeah, from what I’m hearing the pressure is taking its toll on a few clubs. Interesting few days ahead by the sounds of things.

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4 minutes ago, The Verminator said:

I`m sure I read somewhere that she was actually a season ticket holder at Ibrox - anyone else remember that?

 She was on with Cosgrove and Cowan a while ago. Totally upfront about being a Rangers season ticket inthe past.

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1 minute ago, CF11JamTart said:

 She was on with Cosgrove and Cowan a while ago. Totally upfront about being a Rangers season ticket inthe past.

That`s it - knew I knew it from somewhere!

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maroonsgotop
26 minutes ago, Independence said:

.....she is a Sevco fan. Not likely.

yup, didn't know that. Rangers bound then 😁

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22 minutes ago, gnasher75 said:

 

Fair point.

 

It's just for once Celtic and Rangers both want reconstruction so might be desperate enough to change the voting system so they get to play in Europe etc.

 

All other clubs should be up for a permanent change in the voting system.

 

The clubs who are against reconstruction - Hibs, Ross County and possibly Hamilton - are under huge pressure to change their minds. Voting to change the voting system allows them to vote for reconstruction safe in the knowledge it will still go through and they won't be held responsible for a multi million pound compensation claim.

 

OK it's not going to happen but there was a bit of logic to my thinking somewhere in there!

Weeks ago Les Gray was on Sportsound saying with his SPFL hat on, he would want temporary reconstruction but his Hamilton board hat on, permanent.  Doncaster has written to clubs now asking if they are prepared to agree with the board that there should be a new 'permanent' restructure of 14-10-10-10.  I'd be pretty confident Hamilton are in the pro camp as long as it's one up, one down and the play offs as is.

 

Edit - and as we have seen, nothing is permanent.  If 36 or 40 games plus play off is really crap it can be changed.  With a huge amount of difficulty mind.

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5 minutes ago, Goodfella said:

Keith Jackson says his ‘source’ from Hampden has said there will be no executive decision. I’ll leave the link but on my phone so I can’t copy the whole story. 
 

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/hearts-dealt-further-blow-spfl-22191688?2 


let’s hope he never sets foot inside Tynecastle again. Him and his ilk have been all over us like a rash since the start of the pandemic.

 

Forget other clubs the Record and the Sun are our enemies. 

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GorgieRules22
7 minutes ago, Goodfella said:

Keith Jackson says his ‘source’ from Hampden has said there will be no executive decision. I’ll leave the link but on my phone so I can’t copy the whole story. 
 

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/hearts-dealt-further-blow-spfl-22191688?2 

I’m no sure why they employ that *****.

 

Does he actually do any reporting ?

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9 minutes ago, Goodfella said:

Keith Jackson says his ‘source’ from Hampden has said there will be no executive decision. I’ll leave the link but on my phone so I can’t copy the whole story. 
 

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/hearts-dealt-further-blow-spfl-22191688?2 

I`m getting the feeling that executive powers wont be needed!!

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3 minutes ago, Goodfella said:

Keith Jackson says his ‘source’ from Hampden has said there will be no executive decision. I’ll leave the link but on my phone so I can’t copy the whole story. 
 

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/hearts-dealt-further-blow-spfl-22191688?2 

 

Reading that a few things I would observe.

 

First that they say that they wont carry an executive decision to save Hearts. Thats a bit cute, as the executive decision if it was enacted would not be to save Hearts but to save the SPFL from a potentially damaging legal action which could cost clubs a lot of money, put the start of the season at risk and caused damage to whatever reputation the SPFL has left.

 

Secondly, it once more comes from a "source." I think its always telling when it does not have an official name to it. It means if the SPFL made an executive decision they and the Daily Record could if someone was to challenge them on the fact SPFL said no to it in the report that it was only a source, nothing official.

 

Thirdly, if I was the SPFL, I would want this to go through as an official vote rather than an executive decision. Executive decision is the last option on the table and if clubs thought that was going to be what happens if they vote no they will carry on voting no knowing that they can do it as a protest vote as it will be forced through. At the moment you want them to believe that they are the ones who have to make the decision and face up to the consequences.

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7 minutes ago, Goodfella said:

Keith Jackson says his ‘source’ from Hampden has said there will be no executive decision. I’ll leave the link but on my phone so I can’t copy the whole story. 
 

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/hearts-dealt-further-blow-spfl-22191688?2 

Jackson is a tosser. WE have been dealt a further blow? What about Thistle, Stranraer, Brora and Kelty....bloody hate the media using us as the only ones in this. Succulent lamb munching orc. 🤬

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George Cowie
24 minutes ago, TheBigO said:

You comim roond like?

 

Save us fi demotion n I'll give you a post code!

 

Sicko.


It’s alright- I know your address EH12 9GF

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1 hour ago, GorgieRules22 said:

I’m no sure why they employ that *****.

 

Does he actually do any reporting ?


He just seems like a massive bellend. Every time I get hopeful he releases another blast of negativity. 

1 hour ago, The Verminator said:

I`m getting the feeling that executive powers wont be needed!!


I hope so mate. 

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Malinga the Swinga
9 minutes ago, Goodfella said:

Keith Jackson says his ‘source’ from Hampden has said there will be no executive decision. I’ll leave the link but on my phone so I can’t copy the whole story. 
 

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/hearts-dealt-further-blow-spfl-22191688?2 

If Jackson doesn't name his source, then it can safely be assumed the source is just a voice in his head. The man hasn't reported anything but shit for the last 10 years. He isn't a journalist, he is a *****.

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6 hours ago, GorgieRules22 said:

The way the club has been treated since March by fellow clubs, ex professionals, the media and Neil Doncaster and co is absolutely disgusting. 
 

The time to fight back is now.

 

If the club come calling for support in legal fees to fight this we have to stand up and be counted again.

 

 

What will be will be, but no Hearts fan should ever forget this, ever.

 

Only Hearts in future.

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Heartsmad1874
2 minutes ago, Ethan Hunt said:

What will be will be, but no Hearts fan should ever forget this, ever.

 

Only Hearts in future.


League reconstruction or not those that voted to damage us i’ll never give another penny and that includes Scottish cup matches.

 

All money that i used to spend on away matches will be donated to FOH.

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4 hours ago, Footballfirst said:

Hearts won't be suing the clubs. They will be suing the Limited company commonly known as the SPFL.

 

That company generates its income mainly through sponsorship and TV deals.  That would be the source of any financial award granted in Hearts favour.

 

Each club only holds a single share in the SPFL with a nominal value of £1. That is the extent of their individual liability should the SPFL be unable to meet its liabilities. If that was the case, then the SPFL itself would become insolvent and, in all probability, a new football league would be formed to which the clubs would join. The new league would also have to seek recognition by the SFA and UEFA.  

 

That should provide the appropriate amount of fiber to the SPFL in the morning!

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15 minutes ago, GorgieRules22 said:

I’m no sure why they employ that *****.

 

Does he actually do any reporting ?

 

It's hard to believe but this prick has won the best sports writer award in Scotland more than once. So it shows just how good sporting journalism is in Scotland if this is the best. Mind you there may well be a bit of cheating goes on in their world as well as the SPFL world

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26 minutes ago, Goodfella said:

Keith Jackson says his ‘source’ from Hampden has said there will be no executive decision. I’ll leave the link but on my phone so I can’t copy the whole story. 
 

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/hearts-dealt-further-blow-spfl-22191688?2 

 

Oh well. If the very existence of member clubs being under threat and the financial health of the game as a whole aren't a big enough emergency, let the SPFL choose a different path and see how things go for them. 

 

I hope after this we refuse to deal with any 'journalists' who have just kept having a go without looking at what's actually happening. And that includes lifetime bans from Tynecastle. 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Saughton Jambo said:

I told you my predictions about reconstruction happening and I believe it will. There’s been a decent shift in our favour and the indicative vote is expected to be nearer 30 member clubs voting for reconstruction. I won’t post anything further other than.....
 

......the next big story to emerge will be the fallout at Hibs between Leanne Dempster and Ron the Con. One favours reconstruction, the other doesn’t and it’s causing a major rift between the two. 

 

A journalist is about to do a piece on this very soon. The tide is again turning again in our favour.

 

Keep that champagne on ice. It’s going to taste even better now. 
🍾🍾🍾🍾

 

I had a hunch that was afoot, after afew posters mentioning about it.  I didn't want to detract from anything else by claiming it might happen.

Anyway here's hoping.

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3 hours ago, tightrope said:

When it comes down to it, we can hold our heads up high. Regardless of the outcome, we will never be h* bs, we will always be able to hold our heads high knowing that we have the moral, ethical and footballing high ground. FFS they are scum. Tossers to a man. To all the Hearts men and women, regardless of race colour or creed, I love you all. We are Hearts. FTH Gorgie rules. ****ing mutants the lot of them. I love you all. 😘

 

@tightrope  You should post more often.  I love your work.  :thumb:

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38 minutes ago, jamboinglasgow said:

 

Reading that a few things I would observe.

 

First that they say that they wont carry an executive decision to save Hearts. Thats a bit cute, as the executive decision if it was enacted would not be to save Hearts but to save the SPFL from a potentially damaging legal action which could cost clubs a lot of money, put the start of the season at risk and caused damage to whatever reputation the SPFL has left.

 

Secondly, it once more comes from a "source." I think its always telling when it does not have an official name to it. It means if the SPFL made an executive decision they and the Daily Record could if someone was to challenge them on the fact SPFL said no to it in the report that it was only a source, nothing official.

 

Thirdly, if I was the SPFL, I would want this to go through as an official vote rather than an executive decision. Executive decision is the last option on the table and if clubs thought that was going to be what happens if they vote no they will carry on voting no knowing that they can do it as a protest vote as it will be forced through. At the moment you want them to believe that they are the ones who have to make the decision and face up to the consequences.

Absolutely. If clubs don't want to save themselves from

 

i) not getting their Sky money in August

 

ii) a probable delay to the start of the season with full salaries but no income, and

 

iii) being on the end of a punitive damages claim which if lost might put them out of business

 

then all they need to do is vote no. 

 

The executive are not going to bail you out. 

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47 minutes ago, Goodfella said:

Keith Jackson says his ‘source’ from Hampden has said there will be no executive decision. I’ll leave the link but on my phone so I can’t copy the whole story. 
 

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/hearts-dealt-further-blow-spfl-22191688?2 

Keith Jackson starts every Hearts headline with “Hearts dealt further blow”.  Getting bored of the orange ****.  

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2 hours ago, gashauskis9 said:

Vote would fail, but Doncaster would push that through.  Too much at stake in terms of his own head to allow 2 clubs to dictate the future for the other 40.

 

Especially when the two clubs in question are run by people with malignant personalities.

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Let’s hope today (Monday) sees some positive news for Hearts fans everywhere especially Ann Budge!

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2 hours ago, Soapy Soutar said:

If recon does happen one way or another lets not take our eye of the ball and forget all the feelings of injustice,hate and betrayal.

 

If this goes through its not because clubs suddenly feel for us and realise it was unfair,it will be because budge and our legal time have backed them into a corner.

 

I still will want blood,teams to burn,and tynecastle to have a poisonous atmosphere every game we play.

 

What so many have tried to do to us and said about us should never be forgotten.

 

It's tough to argue with any of that, especially when the vermin and Ross County come for a visit.

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6 hours ago, Jammy T said:


But of course Ann has already confirmed we are going to court having consulted with our lawyers so we have not been told we have no chance.

 

Anyway my point was more aimed at MacGregor mouthing off that we had zero prospects of success So his QC told him. This is patently incorrect.

 

Partick and now us have advice that we have a case. That being the case opposition lawyers might say we will not definitely lose but that there is clear risk to the SPFL of losing.

From the quote in The Sun article I’m not convinced he has sought his own QC advice. It reads more to me like he has saw the original QC advice that was given to the SPFL. I can’t see why he would instruct his QC advice, for what purpose? He’s full of shite alright, but it’s shite that’s been fed to him from the SPFL.

 

"I would go with the QC advice I have seen which shows me that, unfair as it is, it was the only practical solution when you couldn't finish the leagues”.

 

"You never know with legal action but I've seen the evidence that gives me more than a degree of certainty.

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17 minutes ago, Selkirkhmfc1874 said:

Well we got another week of this infront of us then 


Was reading your old posts and you did call it that ND would not use his executive powers earlier on. Legal action then tomorrow? Hope so. Let’s get this show on the road. 

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6 hours ago, Francis Albert said:

Mmmm. Your opinion (and experience?) of the law and lawyers differs from mine.

And given your outlook I’m sure all your opinions and experience will have been positive ones.

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2 hours ago, Randy Marsh said:

Indeed.  You just have to look at their posting history.  Joined KB on 26th Dec last year obviously to gloat after Hibs won the derby.  Then their first post is on the St.Mirren match day thread just before the league ended trying to rip the piss.  What a weirdo!😂


Seems really obvious and easy, doesn’t it? Reckon it should be just about the easiest role on the planet being a football forum moderator. 

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1 hour ago, DETTY29 said:

Fawlty Towers taken off TV but still plenty vermin on our screens tonight.

 

The rat traps have snagged a couple.

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Pasquale for King
2 hours ago, soonbe110 said:

She will jump ship soon and end up in another part of Scotland’s capital city. 

The Water of Leith?

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I see the latest SPFL leak (as usual via Keith Jackson) a bit differently from posters who've commented on it so far.

 

Looks to me like it's putting the ball firmly in the court of the Premiership teams. Stating that the board will not save the day by using the powers takes away the comfort blanket from the likes of Ross County. The responsibility is with the clubs.

 

The message being that if this ends up in court it is the no voters that have put everyone there.

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