McCrae Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 30 minutes ago, East Lothian Jambo said: You think that's likely? No. However as a fan owned club it is has a chance of happening. Clubs like Raith who have gone beyond just voting should be the priority targets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlasgoJambo Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 Voted no. I’m of the personal opinion that boycotts are to effect change, this doesn’t do that. Better we tool up and trash the place 😎 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debut 4 Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Mollo said: Yes absolutely - but in a system that is SUPPOSED to be fair and democratic, they would be allowed to vote in their own interests. Maybe not liked by all but as I said, it's the system and the method that is the root here - not clubs using a vote in way they are allowed to. I totally get the point of the desire to boycott away games but it would be a double edged sword really - as it has been quite a point of pride as to how many we take and thats support for the lads on the pitch as well. All in all a shambles though isn't it. Agree. While it’d still be “sare tae bear” if a vote went against us in a clear and wholly democratic open manner, you’d accept it more without the level of bitterness that this situation has caused. There’s not enough derogatory terms to describe the organisations that run our game and the chancers at other clubs. Edited April 14, 2020 by Debut 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1953 Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 If we end up going down we will need all the help we can get to get back up again in 1 season so while I can definitely see the point in boycotting I think I'd still go to a few away games to give the players all the support they need to win the games, it was a difficult choice though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James1874f Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 Probably stop going altogether rather than generate revenue for those cretins in SPFL keep putting money into the foundation until its totally under fans control then stop. not bothered with football really tbh anymore the league is corrupt what’s the point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 I'll be an ex paying fan if we don't fight this. Never mind boycotts of anyone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmaroon Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 14 minutes ago, Mr Rabbit said: I voted no. I think the whole boycott thing is extremely sevcoesque and won’t do the damage that people on here think it will. These clubs have been voting for self interest. Does that make it right, no. Does that mean we should not fight being expelled from the league, no. If anything this should be remembered going forward when other clubs need our support and we can do what they’ve done to us. We have a strong fan base which should be an advantage when we go to a lot of away grounds. Boycotting will harm ourselves just as much as them. So much wrong with this! The standard "sevcoesque" or "mhanks" excuse for doing heehaw is a cop out of immense proportions, on a par with the crap those of us who having being crying corruption for decades have faced on here right up to today. It's right to protest if the authorities (change that "if" to "when") and, particularly when the corrupt incompetents ruining our game use corruption to achieve their nefarious ends. Our great support at away games, Easter Road excepted, has achieved heehaw for seasons, so your last point is as bankrupt as your first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr ewing Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 It's a matter of principle. Boycott. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ribble Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 I'll take what I spent on away games to increase my FOH subscriptions and will also look for Lowland league games when Hearts are away, we'll need the lowland teams to fill the gaps when half of the SPFL hopefully goes bust over the next few years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plato Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 If relegated, it is self inflicted, there is a good chance I will stop going to football all together. AB should have taken action a long time ago it was so obvious to me and I am no football expert. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
annushorribilis III Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 35 minutes ago, Mr Rabbit said: I voted no. I think the whole boycott thing is extremely sevcoesque and won’t do the damage that people on here think it will. These clubs have been voting for self interest. Does that make it right, no. Does that mean we should not fight being expelled from the league, no. If anything this should be remembered going forward when other clubs need our support and we can do what they’ve done to us. We have a strong fan base which should be an advantage when we go to a lot of away grounds. Boycotting will harm ourselves just as much as them. Going forward ,these clubs will be desperate for every penny they can get and I won't be supporting them in that or helping them to be more competitive than they'd otherwise be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 3 minutes ago, Plato said: If relegated, it is self inflicted, there is a good chance I will stop going to football all together. AB should have taken action a long time ago it was so obvious to me and I am no football expert. We mostly said Hibs deferrals aren't sustainable. Good for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rods Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 3 minutes ago, Plato said: If relegated, it is self inflicted, there is a good chance I will stop going to football all together. AB should have taken action a long time ago it was so obvious to me and I am no football expert. You can only be relegated after 38 games we are being demoted after a vote driven by cash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Rabbit Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 7 minutes ago, colinmaroon said: So much wrong with this! The standard "sevcoesque" or "mhanks" excuse for doing heehaw is a cop out of immense proportions, on a par with the crap those of us who having being crying corruption for decades have faced on here right up to today. It's right to protest if the authorities (change that "if" to "when") and, particularly when the corrupt incompetents ruining our game use corruption to achieve their nefarious ends. Our great support at away games, Easter Road excepted, has achieved heehaw for seasons, so your last point is as bankrupt as your first. Can I ask what you think will happen if we boycott games? The majority of teams who most people want to ‘hurt’ are ones who survived in a league without us, rangers and hibs. I didn’t say do nothing, in fact I mentioned we should do something but of course that doesn’t suit your narrative. My point about it being ‘sevcoesque’ was exactly what I mentioned above. When they got liquidated they screamed murder that they would remember and boycott away grounds, it didn’t work. Also if a team that has significantly more fans than us struggle to implement it then why do you think it will work for us. I said it ‘should’ be an advantage which is correct. The fact we have been poor and it hasn’t recently doesn't mean much because all footballers will tell you it’s easier to play when you have a sizeable support behind you. I know fans are hurting just now, as am I, but at least read what others have wrote and try to remain reasoned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted April 14, 2020 Author Share Posted April 14, 2020 Still we have low post count fans saying we should boycott hearts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
22games nro Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 48 minutes ago, Mr Rabbit said: I voted no. I think the whole boycott thing is extremely sevcoesque and won’t do the damage that people on here think it will. These clubs have been voting for self interest. Does that make it right, no. Does that mean we should not fight being expelled from the league, no. If anything this should be remembered going forward when other clubs need our support and we can do what they’ve done to us. We have a strong fan base which should be an advantage when we go to a lot of away grounds. Boycotting will harm ourselves just as much as them. That's your choice , I would literally choke with the thought of giving any of these "yes" teams one single brass penny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted April 14, 2020 Author Share Posted April 14, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Mr Rabbit said: Can I ask what you think will happen if we boycott games? The majority of teams who most people want to ‘hurt’ are ones who survived in a league without us, rangers and hibs. I didn’t say do nothing, in fact I mentioned we should do something but of course that doesn’t suit your narrative. My point about it being ‘sevcoesque’ was exactly what I mentioned above. When they got liquidated they screamed murder that they would remember and boycott away grounds, it didn’t work. Also if a team that has significantly more fans than us struggle to implement it then why do you think it will work for us. I said it ‘should’ be an advantage which is correct. The fact we have been poor and it hasn’t recently doesn't mean much because all footballers will tell you it’s easier to play when you have a sizeable support behind you. I know fans are hurting just now, as am I, but at least read what others have wrote and try to remain reasoned. teams like Dunfermline and raith who will absolutely be happy at the prospect of a big hearts support will think again.. most likely it won’t drive them under, but it will nip.. dunfermline for example theyd be expecting 8000 hearts fans across 2 fixtures.. that’s somewhere between £160k and 200k in revenue.. if we only take 500 to each fixture that will be 20 to 25k offset with policing costs.. we should also refuse to work with these team in terms of loans for the foreseeable.. we aren’t not Sevco, they have 20,000 who’d actively go to away games if they could.. we have a hardcore of about 1500.. if they vanish they will not be replaced very easily. Edited April 14, 2020 by kingantti1874 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EIEIO Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 22 minutes ago, Ribble said: I'll take what I spent on away games to increase my FOH subscriptions and will also look for Lowland league games when Hearts are away, we'll need the lowland teams to fill the gaps when half of the SPFL hopefully goes bust over the next few years I like this approach and hope you are right about some of the SPFL clubs going bust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ribble Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, EIEIO said: I like this approach and hope you are right about some of the SPFL clubs going bust. I have no doubt that they will, far too many clubs that have retained league status when they are neither as well supported nor as well run as teams in the highland/lowland leagues, just look at Berwick, dropped out of League Two and now sat 12th in the Lowland League! Edited April 14, 2020 by Ribble Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunny Munro Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 I haven't read the whole thread but this should be organised by the club and communicated as soon as possible. The club will not be accepting away tickets for any league game for the foreseeable. The club will open Tynecastle each week and play HeartsTV commentary over the tannoy for those who want to get together for the game. It won't happen, but I'd love to watch the reaction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 12 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said: Still we have low post count fans saying we should boycott hearts If Ann Budge doesn't fight it, then I think there'll be quite a few folk boycotting Hearts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jodami Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 Boycotting teams who have chosen to do this is the only way we can show our displeasure as a fan base. If it is about a day out with your mates go and watch Edinburgh City, go for a day out bevvying in a different town but do not support clubs who have actively hurt Hearts. When teams come to Tynecastle again it should be a more hateful experience. Scott Wilson should routinely announce them as a club who sought to expel Hearts from the Premier League and scum should be chanted at fans if they actually bring anyone. The club has missed a nasty edge for far too long but creating a siege mentality and turning Tynecastle back into a terrible place to come to should now happen. It's not difficult. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
main Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 Would rather a 1970s style course of action where the hearts support would rampage through the towns of the teams who voted yes, looting chippies and bricking windows as we went. Would certainly get the message across 😁. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
annushorribilis III Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, main said: Would rather a 1970s style course of action where the hearts support would rampage through the towns of the teams who voted yes, looting chippies and bricking windows as we went. Would certainly get the message across 😁. We're going up, you're staying down We're gonna wreck your **** ing town. Yes youngsters, that was the chant. I'm not advocating a return to those days, obviously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 21 minutes ago, Mr Rabbit said: Can I ask what you think will happen if we boycott games? The majority of teams who most people want to ‘hurt’ are ones who survived in a league without us, rangers and hibs. I didn’t say do nothing, in fact I mentioned we should do something but of course that doesn’t suit your narrative. My point about it being ‘sevcoesque’ was exactly what I mentioned above. When they got liquidated they screamed murder that they would remember and boycott away grounds, it didn’t work. Also if a team that has significantly more fans than us struggle to implement it then why do you think it will work for us. I said it ‘should’ be an advantage which is correct. The fact we have been poor and it hasn’t recently doesn't mean much because all footballers will tell you it’s easier to play when you have a sizeable support behind you. I know fans are hurting just now, as am I, but at least read what others have wrote and try to remain reasoned. It possibly didn’t work because they have another ten thousand knuckle draggers waiting to buy tickets if there was a boycott. I doubt very much if the majority of our 2k hardcore away support boycott grounds there will be another 2k waiting to pick up the slack. If fans put the money they would’ve spent into Hearts we will far better off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
annushorribilis III Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 5 minutes ago, Jodami said: Boycotting teams who have chosen to do this is the only way we can show our displeasure as a fan base. If it is about a day out with your mates go and watch Edinburgh City, go for a day out bevvying in a different town but do not support clubs who have actively hurt Hearts. When teams come to Tynecastle again it should be a more hateful experience. Scott Wilson should routinely announce them as a club who sought to expel Hearts from the Premier League and scum should be chanted at fans if they actually bring anyone. The club has missed a nasty edge for far too long but creating a siege mentality and turning Tynecastle back into a terrible place to come to should now happen. It's not difficult. <rummages in attic looking for DMs and Sta-Prest> 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 54 minutes ago, GlasgoJambo said: Voted no. I’m of the personal opinion that boycotts are to effect change, this doesn’t do that. Better we tool up and trash the place 😎 5 minutes ago, main said: Would rather a 1970s style course of action where the hearts support would rampage through the towns of the teams who voted yes, looting chippies and bricking windows as we went. Would certainly get the message across 😁. I like the sounds of this but unfortunately those days are gone, we need to do this properly and publicly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted April 14, 2020 Author Share Posted April 14, 2020 9 minutes ago, Cruyff said: If Ann Budge doesn't fight it, then I think there'll be quite a few folk boycotting Hearts. If Ann Budge doesn’t fight it then Ann Budge needs to go immediately.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 8 minutes ago, Jodami said: Boycotting teams who have chosen to do this is the only way we can show our displeasure as a fan base. If it is about a day out with your mates go and watch Edinburgh City, go for a day out bevvying in a different town but do not support clubs who have actively hurt Hearts. When teams come to Tynecastle again it should be a more hateful experience. Scott Wilson should routinely announce them as a club who sought to expel Hearts from the Premier League and scum should be chanted at fans if they actually bring anyone. The club has missed a nasty edge for far too long but creating a siege mentality and turning Tynecastle back into a terrible place to come to should now happen. It's not difficult. Definitely, I’m going to head to somewhere that didn’t vote to expel us and spend some cash there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Rabbit Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 13 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said: teams like Dunfermline and raith who will absolutely be happy at the prospect of a big hearts support will think again.. most likely it won’t drive them under, but it will nip.. dunfermline for example theyd be expecting 8000 hearts fans across 2 fixtures.. that’s somewhere between £160k and 200k in revenue.. if we only take 500 to each fixture that will be 20 to 25k offset with policing costs.. we should also refuse to work with these team in terms of loans for the foreseeable.. we aren’t not Sevco, they have 20,000 who’d actively go to away games if they could.. we have a hardcore of about 1500.. if they vanish they will not be replaced very easily. I’m sure it will nip but I’ve just never seen a boycott in football working. I agree about loaning or selling to these clubs although it can be a dangerous game. I know it’s rare but every now and then they will have a player who we might want so if we go down that route we need to be prepared for it on both sides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stotty Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 I went to loads of away games the last time we were in the championship, I won't this time and sure most fans will feel the same. If these championship clubs think Hearts will be taking the same sort of away supports if we are expelled from the Premiership, I think they've got another thing coming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Rabbit Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 12 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: It possibly didn’t work because they have another ten thousand knuckle draggers waiting to buy tickets if there was a boycott. I doubt very much if the majority of our 2k hardcore away support boycott grounds there will be another 2k waiting to pick up the slack. If fans put the money they would’ve spent into Hearts we will far better off. That is a good point however it’s also worth mentioning that a lot of our hardcore away support actively hate kickback and are unlikely to be swayed by any ideas on this forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 1 minute ago, Mr Rabbit said: That is a good point however it’s also worth mentioning that a lot of our hardcore away support actively hate kickback and are unlikely to be swayed by any ideas on this forum. I’m sure they will come to their own conclusions about a boycott bring a good idea. I might even go on their pages and suggest it as they’re quite easily manipulated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTS1874 Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 I've voted NO, if we are relegated the club will need the fans to roar us back to the Premier League. The best way to work it up Dundee is to hammer them 4 times next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 7 minutes ago, Mr Rabbit said: I’m sure it will nip but I’ve just never seen a boycott in football working. I agree about loaning or selling to these clubs although it can be a dangerous game. I know it’s rare but every now and then they will have a player who we might want so if we go down that route we need to be prepared for it on both sides. You missed the Dave King led boycott of Rangers home games. Very successful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Class of 75 Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 I would also cut the allocation severely for visiting fans of Hibs and Celtic when we play them next. Scottish football is rotten to the core Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 7 minutes ago, Mr Rabbit said: I’m sure it will nip but I’ve just never seen a boycott in football working. I agree about loaning or selling to these clubs although it can be a dangerous game. I know it’s rare but every now and then they will have a player who we might want so if we go down that route we need to be prepared for it on both sides. I would just show the disdain they have for us, take their best players when they’re out of contract when the transfer window opens. Make a big deal of signing players that have experience down there to help us get back up. We really need to be as punitive as possible to these clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Class of 75 Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 29 minutes ago, Jodami said: Boycotting teams who have chosen to do this is the only way we can show our displeasure as a fan base. If it is about a day out with your mates go and watch Edinburgh City, go for a day out bevvying in a different town but do not support clubs who have actively hurt Hearts. When teams come to Tynecastle again it should be a more hateful experience. Scott Wilson should routinely announce them as a club who sought to expel Hearts from the Premier League and scum should be chanted at fans if they actually bring anyone. The club has missed a nasty edge for far too long but creating a siege mentality and turning Tynecastle back into a terrible place to come to should now happen. It's not difficult. Good shout. Totally agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboCampbell Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 Absolutely yes! how do we get this viral??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Italian Lambretta Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 6 minutes ago, MTS1874 said: I've voted NO, if we are relegated the club will need the fans to roar us back to the Premier League. The best way to work it up Dundee is to hammer them 4 times next season. We could still do that without giving them a penny of ticket money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Lighter Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 Absolutely.It should be from the top down. Accept zero tickets from these clubs and send a bare minimum of players /coaching staff to away games.No board members etc. Also a minimum allocation for games at Tynecastle and if we are obliged to provide seats to opposing board members then seat them in the Roseburn, the likes of Lawell, Doncaster et al should be aware in no uncertain terms they are not welcome, and if they wish to attend then they can sit in with their scum fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Lothian Jambo Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 1 hour ago, Rods said: You can only be relegated after 38 games we are being demoted after a vote driven by cash. Of course. But we are being impacted incredibly unfairly after 4 years of shite and 18 months of incredibly poor governance I don't think anyone can reasonably accept relegation after 30 games of a scheduled 38 game season. 4 wins in 36 and continual failure to win important games against sides around us have brought us to this point This scenario hasn't been created by anyone through choice. I absolutely understand why people might wish to boycott if we are relegated How we've found ourselves to be in this position shouldn't be overlooked no matter the noise and distraction Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZanderMIM Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 Championship teams will be rubbing their hands together at the thought of a full stand of hearts fans to fill their pockets.. the only team that will be getting a full stand will be Inverness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
queensferryjambo Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 I know lots of people are talking from the anger of the moment and may change their minds. I for one am happy to not give one single penny ever again to any of the teams who have bladed us for self interests. The only away games I will ever attend again are teams who voted NO and Semi Finals / Finals at Hampden. Remember kids if you boycott an away cup match half the cash of the home fans goes to Hearts anyway and you will be taking money directly out their pockets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted April 14, 2020 Author Share Posted April 14, 2020 Quite a small sample and as usual those who want to boycott will be drawn to this. but 94% willing to boycott shows there is enormous strength of feeling here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunks Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 3 hours ago, McCrae said: Pressure should be placed on the club by FOH not to request or support any away ticket allocation. No it shouldn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defender Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 I'm sorry....was the ballot paper asking them to vote on Hearts being relegated? No. It absolutely sucks if it ends in relegation but most clubs are thinking about money. Money they need to survive this mental situation. Even if those who say they'll boycott do, others will still go and the away attendances probably won't drop much, it at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpikeDudley Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 4 hours ago, jamboman9 said: Just Dundee if they u turn. Clubs that have already voted "yes" are just as culpible - maybe even more so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunks Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 9 minutes ago, Defender said: I'm sorry....was the ballot paper asking them to vote on Hearts being relegated? No. It absolutely sucks if it ends in relegation but most clubs are thinking about money. Money they need to survive this mental situation. Even if those who say they'll boycott do, others will still go and the away attendances probably won't drop much, it at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted April 14, 2020 Author Share Posted April 14, 2020 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Defender said: I'm sorry....was the ballot paper asking them to vote on Hearts being relegated? No. It absolutely sucks if it ends in relegation but most clubs are thinking about money. Money they need to survive this mental situation. Even if those who say they'll boycott do, others will still go and the away attendances probably won't drop much, it at all. So what you are saying is that collectively Scottish football Clubs could have taken the time to make sure no club was penalised unfairly. But they didn’t they rushed and acted in their own self interest pandering to a corrupt league having their strings pulled by Celtic. Now it’s time to act in our self interest. By making sure hearts fans funds support hearts.. you said they are thinking about money - well not my ****ing money we have a reasonably small hardcore away support, we are not rangers - fans boycotting will not be easily replaced.. if we can reduce the number of away supported at EEP for instance from 4K to 400 then damn sure it will hurt them -.. and I hope it does. Their actions cannot be vindicated and I won’t be shedding a tear for any team who dies as a result of Covid 19.. clearly they don’t give a **** about us so **** them.. no more loan players either Edited April 14, 2020 by kingantti1874 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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