gashauskis9 Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 Summer football is coming folks. Massive BBQ before the cup final then back for the Wimbledon final and the last round of the Open. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboiain13 Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 The Hobbits will be screaming "CONSPIRACY!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
annushorribilis III Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 1 hour ago, JJ93 said: Legally actionable. Not a chance it would stand up in court. You don't know that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jb66 Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 Dundee United are more deserving to be in the league than us, they are smashing the championship. Only fair thing to do is increase the spl league Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynnlondon Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 On a side note will this impact on the Euros this summer ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
annushorribilis III Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 51 minutes ago, westbow said: Don't suppose there are other sources to confirm this? According to the s&n it's nonsense. I don't know if Twitter is more reliable the the s&n. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tott Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, glynnlondon said: On a side note will this impact on the Euros this summer ? They were talking about postponing it till next summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRY Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 4 minutes ago, glynnlondon said: On a side note will this impact on the Euros this summer ? UEFA are meeting on Tuesday I believe to discuss the matter. The rumours are that they may suspend it for a year, and play in 2021 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
annushorribilis III Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, glynnlondon said: On a side note will this impact on the Euros this summer ? If the season was to be extended would there be time for the Euros (they start in 10 weeks) ? Even if season isn't extended, is it safe to have the Euros ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynnlondon Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, BRY said: UEFA are meeting on Tuesday I believe to discuss the matter. The rumours are that they may suspend it for a year, and play in 2021 That would make sense especially with the set up this time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benny Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Mid Calder Jambo said: By the same token if they stopped the leagues now Dundee Utd would have a major grouse. There is no easy solution here and i an sure that the GFA will find the most stupid solution, the one thats suits the bum cheekd best. But they are not mathematically sure of winning the league. Hard pill to swallow but if you have to cancel this season and start again with the same teams next so be it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IveSeenTheLight Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 1 minute ago, benny said: But they are not mathematically sure of winning the league. Hard pill to swallow but if you have to cancel this season and start again with the same teams next so be it. Wonder how Liverpool fans are feeling today? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R08813 Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 1 minute ago, benny said: But they are not mathematically sure of winning the league. Hard pill to swallow but if you have to cancel this season and start again with the same teams next so be it. The only way to work it is to do what we’ve the fans have been demanding for years and expand the league. All top four in the championship come up, therefore anyone that may have benefitted from the playoffs is promoted, AND the season is more entertaining Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IveSeenTheLight Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 4 minutes ago, R08813 said: The only way to work it is to do what we’ve the fans have been demanding for years and expand the league. All top four in the championship come up, therefore anyone that may have benefitted from the playoffs is promoted, AND the season is more entertaining There's so many reasons why this just wont happen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tasavallan Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, R08813 said: The only way to work it is to do what we’ve the fans have been demanding for years and expand the league. All top four in the championship come up, therefore anyone that may have benefitted from the playoffs is promoted, AND the season is more entertaining Almost agree, cancel relegation, promote UTD but let the play-offs be held at start of next season to determine the 2nd promoted team from Championship. 14 team league. Also play-offs to determine teams to be promoted from non-league into Div 2 to balance numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigsuperslim1874 Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, IveSeenTheLight said: There's so many reasons why this just wont happen Apparently Germany are doing something similar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No longer active Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 48 minutes ago, Last Laff said: You think Budge would take it to court? A decision decided in these circumstances? Not a chance. Think she will be keeping her head low in isolation trying not to catch the bug. She isn’t a spring chicken ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuart500 Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 If a match is abandoned after 80 minutes the game is replayed. It is not awarded to the team winning at that point. Same principle must apply to the whole league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IveSeenTheLight Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, bigsuperslim1874 said: Apparently Germany are doing something similar Were not German though. I'd be very surprised if this happened in Scotland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever Hearts Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 40 minutes ago, Paolo said: You cannot say it is legally wrong for one, but not the other. Just as well I didn't then. I said I have sympathy with the likes of Dundee United. That's all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 7 minutes ago, stuart500 said: If a match is abandoned after 80 minutes the game is replayed. It is not awarded to the team winning at that point. Same principle must apply to the whole league. Good point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMFC 86 Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 1 hour ago, IveSeenTheLight said: Just found this This would suggest that all 38 games need to be played. Will still look to see if there are any caveat's I’m sure you will you codheid tosser. I certainly don’t forget your shitey team escaping relegation due to league reorganisation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IveSeenTheLight Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 Just now, HMFC 86 said: I’m sure you will you codheid tosser. I certainly don’t forget your shitey team escaping relegation due to league reorganisation LOL, so angry and devoid of the facts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 37 minutes ago, Gashauskis9 said: Summer football is coming folks. Massive BBQ before the cup final then back for the Wimbledon final and the last round of the Open. That's like my idea of porn. Sad eh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, IveSeenTheLight said: LOL, so angry and devoid of the facts. You did finish bottom though eh? Aberdeen have finished bottom of the league on two occasions, 1916–17 and 1999-2000. They were spared relegation in 1917 after having to withdraw from the league because of World War I Edited March 13, 2020 by Sir Gio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMFC 86 Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 Just now, IveSeenTheLight said: LOL, so angry and devoid of the facts. Yep you are, very bitter too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IveSeenTheLight Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 Just now, Sir Gio said: You did finish bottom though eh? We did that yes, of a 10 team league. Which meant we were supposed to be in a three way round robin with Dunfermline and Falkirk to determine which two teams out of the three played in the top tier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 Just now, IveSeenTheLight said: We did that yes, of a 10 team league. Which meant we were supposed to be in a three way round robin with Dunfermline and Falkirk to determine which two teams out of the three played in the top tier. Didn't realise 1917 as well. Corona, WWI, much and such eh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IveSeenTheLight Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 1 minute ago, HMFC 86 said: Yep you are, very bitter too 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigsuperslim1874 Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 11 minutes ago, IveSeenTheLight said: Were not German though. I'd be very surprised if this happened in Scotland At this point - I think the games done. Utd could be in big bother if they don’t get up...others like Dunfermline could be in bother too. I can see clubs going into admin and then it will be a total mess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IveSeenTheLight Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, Sir Gio said: Didn't realise 1917 as well. Corona, WWI, much and such eh What? 1917 was a bit before my time 😆 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMFC 86 Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 1 minute ago, IveSeenTheLight said: 🤣 Not me on an opposing teams fans forum acting the prick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spellczech Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 If Falkirk can be denied promotion due to their stadium then surely an incomplete season is far greater grounds for denying promotion. I suspect what will happen is that whenever football starts again, this season will be finished off. Player contracts could however cause a problem here... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 Just now, IveSeenTheLight said: What? 1917 was a bit before my time 😆 Twice plus the rule change to a play off. Reckon its only fair we get our doggy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanks Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 43 minutes ago, wavydavy said: The thing to remember here is that with one or two exceptions we are all Hearts fans on here and are dreaming up means to try and justify us staying in the SPFL. In reality why should other clubs or the authorities that govern our leagues try and bend rules to keep us in the top flights? We are clutching at straws and making assumptioons about rules that might or might not exist to help us stay in the top flight. We are not at the bottom of the league because of some major conspiracy it is simply because we have not been good enough under three different Coaches throughout the course of the season so far. It is clear that the current squad under these three coaches have shown that they don't have the bottle in the crunch games. Ok the coaches tactics may be partially to blame here but ultimately the players have to take a fair proportion of the blame for our league position. Yes teams at the bottom can make miraculous recoveries and survive but we have shown already that we can't beat the teams around us in the bottom six so that in itself is a marker to show if we deserve to go down and regretfully I hate to say it but we do deserve it. If the league were to stop after this week-ends games then we have shown that we don't deserve to stay in this league when we have only taken 9 points from 14 games against the bottom six clubs. ( I read that we had only taken 9 from 13 games prior to the St MIrren game on Wed) Does that really give us an argument to stay in this league? I would love for something to happen that would keep in in the top league however we really don't deserve it if truth be known. We do deserve to remain in the league because we still have games left and have more than a reasonable chance of staying up. It really is that simple. If we had played one game into the season and celtic were bottom of the league and the league had to be suspended should they be relegated? Where is the line drawn? We still have a large percent of the league to play and a whole bottom 6 "tournament" to take part in, we cannot be relegated under these circumstances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IveSeenTheLight Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 1 minute ago, bigsuperslim1874 said: At this point - I think the games done. Utd could be in big bother if they don’t get up...others like Dunfermline could be in bother too. I can see clubs going into admin and then it will be a total mess. It is certainly a challenge to determine the correct way through. Its naive to think the games will recommence early April as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanks Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 23 minutes ago, Tasavallan said: Almost agree, cancel relegation, promote UTD but let the play-offs be held at start of next season to determine the 2nd promoted team from Championship. 14 team league. Also play-offs to determine teams to be promoted from non-league into Div 2 to balance numbers. Why should Dundee united be promoted and us saved from relegation? Technically Dundee United may not win the league so why should they be promoted? Is it because they are currently in 1st place? If so then Hearts should be relegated going by your argument. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 1 minute ago, Spellczech said: If Falkirk can be denied promotion due to their stadium then surely an incomplete season is far greater grounds for denying promotion. I suspect what will happen is that whenever football starts again, this season will be finished off. Player contracts could however cause a problem here... Some contracts end 31 May, others 30 June. There is potential to run into July, but I reckon everything will be done to meet June 30. When will next season start is another key point, September I reckon, we may need to see emergency leagues for a year to recalibrate, I think I can guarantee there will be a loss of games in 20/21 season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 2 hours ago, Walter Bishop said: There was someone on twitter last night saying there is a rule in place that once 30 games were played they league positions would stand. This weekend completes 30 games played for all teams. (St Johnstone and Rangers on 29) All games cancelled so that won’t happen now, by the skin of our teeth 🥵? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EIEIO Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 20 minutes ago, stuart500 said: If a match is abandoned after 80 minutes the game is replayed. It is not awarded to the team winning at that point. Same principle must apply to the whole league. Sensible post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IveSeenTheLight Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 1 minute ago, HMFC 86 said: Not me on an opposing teams fans forum acting the prick Enlighten me. In what way have I acted the prick? Its a very interesting and debatable discussion. That's all I've participated in. I've not once made any comments against Hearts. Indeed the post you wet your knickers at was me showing potentially a rule which dictates that 38 league games need to be played which arguably is in Hearts interest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 22 minutes ago, stuart500 said: If a match is abandoned after 80 minutes the game is replayed. It is not awarded to the team winning at that point. Same principle must apply to the whole league. Or it restarts at the point it stopped in some countries, starting from scratch would be wonderful, but I'm still not sure this shower of losers would actually cash in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alwaysthereinspirit Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 2 hours ago, Mid Calder Jambo said: By the same token if they stopped the leagues now Dundee Utd would have a major grouse. There is no easy solution here and i an sure that the GFA will find the most stupid solution, the one thats suits the bum cheekd best. Cancelling now means Newco are one season better off for stopping Celtics march to 15 in a row. Newco fans agree to cancelling. Celtic fans not so much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IveSeenTheLight Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 4 minutes ago, Sir Gio said: Twice plus the rule change to a play off. Reckon its only fair we get our doggy. I've not suggested you shouldn't. Interesting in that 1916-17 season the bottom three were not relegated., Dundee were above Hibs and queens Park but were relegated. Do you know why? It also looks like we were not in the top division in 1917-18, so must have been relegated then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milky_26 Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 6 minutes ago, IveSeenTheLight said: I've not suggested you shouldn't. Interesting in that 1916-17 season the bottom three were not relegated., Dundee were above Hibs and queens Park but were relegated. Do you know why? It also looks like we were not in the top division in 1917-18, so must have been relegated then nope not relegated asked to retire for a season along with dundee and raith. all due to difficulties travelling during the war Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 6 minutes ago, IveSeenTheLight said: I've not suggested you shouldn't. Interesting in that 1916-17 season the bottom three were not relegated., Dundee were above Hibs and queens Park but were relegated. Do you know why? It also looks like we were not in the top division in 1917-18, so must have been relegated then No idea to be honest, was news to me. All I know, if they cant get this restarted by May there are major adjustments to be made for 20/21 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavydavy Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 14 minutes ago, Longshanks said: We do deserve to remain in the league because we still have games left and have more than a reasonable chance of staying up. It really is that simple. If we had played one game into the season and celtic were bottom of the league and the league had to be suspended should they be relegated? Where is the line drawn? We still have a large percent of the league to play and a whole bottom 6 "tournament" to take part in, we cannot be relegated under these circumstances. We have played 30 games not one. It changes the argument a bit don't you think? I don't want us relegated but my point was that we deserve to be bottom of the league due to our inabilty to beat the teams around us. Others seem to be inventing reason to keep us up that was my argument. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WheatfieldWarrior Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 10 minutes ago, Sir Gio said: Some contracts end 31 May, others 30 June. There is potential to run into July, but I reckon everything will be done to meet June 30. When will next season start is another key point, September I reckon, we may need to see emergency leagues for a year to recalibrate, I think I can guarantee there will be a loss of games in 20/21 season Yeah, I'd forgotten about contracts. Games would need to be completed before these run out. I think we have 9 players with deals or loans ending - many of them at the end of may. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoda Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 2 hours ago, Walter Bishop said: Promote two teams from each league and bring two into League 2 from pyramid. SPFL next season has 14 teams, Split into two 7s after 2 rounds = 26 games played then play each other twice, a further 12 games. Total games played 38. 👍. That would be a great set-up. Far too sensible for the SPFL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanks Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 1 minute ago, wavydavy said: We have played 30 games not one. It changes the argument a bit don't you think? I don't want us relegated but my point was that we deserve to be bottom of the league due to our inabilty to beat the teams around us. Others seem to be inventing reason to keep us up that was my argument. I think we pretty much agree on the situation. I don't think we should remain in an extended league or be relegated. It surely has to either be season (eventually) finished or just totally cancelled and scrapped. We can't just pick and choose - oh Hearts should stay in the league even though we are bottom and Dundee United should be promoted because they are 1st even though the could still technically lose out, as long as things can still change then nothing can be determined. What should now happen is league is postponed until we can determine the situation, if it can be finished at a later date then great we get it finished, if it can't then it is scrapped and we start again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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