Niemi’s gloves Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 Quote 40 minutes ago, Nookie Bear said: Get the benefactor to make up the shortfall then. Why make us punters pay for the clubs’ failings? Or perhaps shake the magic money tree? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 If people are happy to pay it then the pricing is correct; the attendance will say whether it was right or wrong I guess. As I mentioned before, the price for what's on offer in Scottish football is far too high. No competition in the league, dreadful standards and facilities doesn't represent value for money. Some of the league prices we charge are eye watering when compared to other countries with a much better product. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldwigforjack Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, ...a bit disco said: Good one. Nothing wrong with local amateur football. Amateur? There's NOTHING amateur about Leith Athletic or Edinburgh United. I think you'll find they're both in a SENIOR league. Edited February 19, 2020 by Baldwigforjack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick witter Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 23 minutes ago, Bull's-eye said: Easy to spot if their crawling, cheers for heads up rick. 👍🏻 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboPete Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 2 Tickets bought. Big game against Rangers at home in the Scottish Cup Quarter Finals. No chance I’m missing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Independence Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Fort Vallance said: I didn't see anyone saying it wasn't affordable. More that it wasnt realistic given other ties and TV etc. Unbelievable !! Your post smacks of arrogance. Aye okay! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollie2004 Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 On 16/02/2020 at 11:33, Balernojambo said: I think it should be part of season ticket. It was in 1998 when we beat the Hun in the final. Daughter and I went to every home game on our season tickets only paid for semi and final tickets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
...a bit disco Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Baldwigforjack said: Amateur? There's NOTHING amateur about Leith Athletic or Edinburgh United. I think you'll find they're both in a SENIOR league. Apologies! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandylejambo Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 I went to Man City V Shakter, it never cost £30, that was champions league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewiseone Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 Some on here still trotting out the, better players cost more money so if we want "success" we have to pay more- blind leading the blind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydug Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 23 minutes ago, thewiseone said: Some on here still trotting out the, better players cost more money so if we want "success" we have to pay more- blind leading the blind. Then there is others who have no idea how much it costs to run a football club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EIEIO Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 1 hour ago, sandylejambo said: I went to Man City V Shakter, it never cost £30, that was champions league. Our turnover is £15 million per year. Every team in the EPL gets 10 times that from TV revenue alone never mind Champions League cash. We can only compare ourselves with other Scottish teams who like us except for the Old Firm are funded by match day income. £25 would have been better but im sure i paid £35 against the vermin in the cup when Berra scored late on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 2 hours ago, thewiseone said: Some on here still trotting out the, better players cost more money so if we want "success" we have to pay more- blind leading the blind. More money doesn’t guarantee success but it tends to help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 4 hours ago, Taffin said: If people are happy to pay it then the pricing is correct; the attendance will say whether it was right or wrong I guess. As I mentioned before, the price for what's on offer in Scottish football is far too high. No competition in the league, dreadful standards and facilities doesn't represent value for money. Some of the league prices we charge are eye watering when compared to other countries with a much better product. Germany for instance have a much better product and relatively cheap tickets. Interesting to see the RB Leipzig fans with a banner about pricing tonight against Spurs, and throwing loo rolls on to bring the attention of the cameras. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 I’m going round for tickets tomorrow, get the feeling there will be plenty of Huns in our end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Potter Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 On 16/02/2020 at 11:27, Newton51 said: 25 would have been fair. Cup wise 30 is more like a semi final onwards price This, wont be there, its on TV. Got my Motherwell ticket though, even on league games i go for bottom tier seats as the price gap is huge from upper, very strange as we are poor just now. Take the upper tier seats down 3 pounds and get extra fans, never happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 6 hours ago, Pasquale for King said: Germany for instance have a much better product and relatively cheap tickets. Interesting to see the RB Leipzig fans with a banner about pricing tonight against Spurs, and throwing loo rolls on to bring the attention of the cameras. They do but how much money do Bundesliga teams get from TV compared to tickets? The 50+1 rule also helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewiseone Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 8 hours ago, davemclaren said: More money doesn’t guarantee success but it tends to help. Maybes aye, maybes naw. Not something Hearts fans or club needs to be driving. Look at what's presently happening! The only thing it will achieve is further alienation of a section of support , we can I'll afford to lose and a potentially half empty stadium which should be like a bear Pitt on the day but will be more like a library probably. Look at successful smaller, similar sized clubs who have had success- Leicester, Aberdeen a few years ago now, Dundee United, Nottingham Forrest, Burnley etc . Their relative successes didn't result from buying the best , or paying the most to my knowledge. What is it that all these clubs harnessed to achieve their successes? 8 hours ago, davemclaren said: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fxxx the SPFL Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 8 hours ago, Pasquale for King said: Germany for instance have a much better product and relatively cheap tickets. Interesting to see the RB Leipzig fans with a banner about pricing tonight against Spurs, and throwing loo rolls on to bring the attention of the cameras. I believe Germany have the highest average attendances in Europe so 50 thousand paying £15 is raking in more than 18 thousand paying £30. I feel sorry for those who can't afford it, earlier rounds were relatively cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Lithuania Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, Ray has bus pass hooray said: I believe Germany have the highest average attendances in Europe so 50 thousand paying £15 is raking in more than 18 thousand paying £30. I feel sorry for those who can't afford it, earlier rounds were relatively cheap. That’s the thing. Most of us actually can’t really afford it but we go anyway. No wonder people are raging. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAndy Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 It's hard to get any enthusiasm up for the Cup with the position we are in. £30 certainly doesn't help either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 25 minutes ago, thewiseone said: Maybes aye, maybes naw. Not something Hearts fans or club needs to be driving. Look at what's presently happening! The only thing it will achieve is further alienation of a section of support , we can I'll afford to lose and a potentially half empty stadium which should be like a bear Pitt on the day but will be more like a library probably. Look at successful smaller, similar sized clubs who have had success- Leicester, Aberdeen a few years ago now, Dundee United, Nottingham Forrest, Burnley etc . Their relative successes didn't result from buying the best , or paying the most to my knowledge. What is it that all these clubs harnessed to achieve their successes? They got lucky in getting an exceptional manager which allowed them to compete, albeit for a short period and in different times. However, the bigger and richer a club is generally equates with being the more consistent and more successful over the long term. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
been here before Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 26 minutes ago, davemclaren said: They got lucky in getting an exceptional manager which allowed them to compete, albeit for a short period and in different times. However, the bigger and richer a club is generally equates with being the more consistent and more successful over the long term. Timing also plays a part for some. Leicester, Aberdeen, Utd all enjoying their success when the traditional 'big guns' were having poor seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ribble Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 On 15/02/2020 at 23:55, Hearts_fan said: £30 a head on top of season tickets, time, fuel and other expenses is too much. I have sympathy with the OP. Others arguing that £30 is reasonable because it's cheaper than a league ticket completely dismisses the fact that the league ticket is a TOTAL rip-off itself. We are charged stupid money for ball-breakingly bad football in Scotland. Folks doing 200 mile round trips should be rewarded with cheaper cup tickets. Just a thought! Imagine if Man U done that, old trafford would be free to attend for 95% of their 'fans' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 3 hours ago, davemclaren said: They do but how much money do Bundesliga teams get from TV compared to tickets? The 50+1 rule also helps. Probably less than EPL teams do, I think the protests in English were aimed at Spurs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Ray has bus pass hooray said: I believe Germany have the highest average attendances in Europe so 50 thousand paying £15 is raking in more than 18 thousand paying £30. I feel sorry for those who can't afford it, earlier rounds were relatively cheap. Chicken and the Egg, would we get more fans in if it was cheaper, most definitely I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 21 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: Chicken and the Egg, would we get more fans in if it was cheaper, most definitely I think. We might be sold out every week if we let everyone in for a fiver. There is an optimum point for every match where you maximise income from the attending crowd. Finding that point is tricky though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, davemclaren said: We might be sold out every week if we let everyone in for a fiver. There is an optimum point for every match where you maximise income from the attending crowd. Finding that point is tricky though. The cheap kids season ticket has worked wonders, lots of youngsters all over the ground. The maximum income will not be made from this live on TV game, although I realise the new team wanted high prices. One of mates is a Palace fan and had his sons up here for Xmas, it was going to cost nearly £80 I think for them to go to the Aberdeen game. We probably lost a couple of young future fans due to that, and the £80 plus food and scarves etc. Edited February 20, 2020 by Pasquale for King Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 33 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: The cheap kids season ticket has worked wonders, lots of youngsters all over the ground. The maximum income will not be made from this live on TV game, although I realise the new team wanted high prices. One of mates is a Palace fan and had his sons up here for Xmas, it was going to cost nearly £80 I think for them to go to the Aberdeen game. We probably lost a couple of young future fans due to that, and the £80 plus food and scarves etc. There’s always going to be some that can't afford whatever the price. It is a balance that has to be found. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 30 minutes ago, davemclaren said: There’s always going to be some that can't afford whatever the price. It is a balance that has to be found. **** them then eh? What a bizarre thing to say. All Hearts fans should be encouraged to contribute however little. I’m sure we used to have concessions for the unemployed, in today’s world that would be good. I’m lucky to be able to contribute as much as I want, it doesn’t mean I look down on others who can’t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fxxx the SPFL Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 (edited) 37 minutes ago, davemclaren said: There’s always going to be some that can't afford whatever the price. It is a balance that has to be found. I have three grandkids ages three, two and new born last week (all boys not that it matters) i'm looking forward to taking them to Hearts games hopefully costs will be kept lowish for kids. I had the eldest there for the Auchinleck game last year probably a bit too young he fidgeted a lot and he also watched me (grandson three months old) playing on the hallowed turf representing kickback against the Hearts All Stars last game before the old stand was ripped down close game we only got beat 10-0 Edited February 20, 2020 by Ray has bus pass hooray Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCR Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 Club wouldn’t want to introduce more concessions as people would take the piss, costing a fortune. Raith Rovers issued a statement a few years back saying they were losing thousands a year from people claiming to be disabled when they weren’t, Hearts would lose tens of thousands. The big clubs in Germany do have cheap standing tickets, but they still have seats costing hundreds at the same time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 20 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: **** them then eh? What a bizarre thing to say. All Hearts fans should be encouraged to contribute however little. I’m sure we used to have concessions for the unemployed, in today’s world that would be good. I’m lucky to be able to contribute as much as I want, it doesn’t mean I look down on others who can’t. Not bizarre mo. Unless we let folk in for nothing there will always be someone that can’t afford it. There are a range of prices and seats across the stadium and some games are cheaper than others. I think we last had concessions for the unemployed in the 80s where folk had to bring their ub40 ( do they still exist? ). I don’t have a problem with concessions ( looking forward to finally being one in a couple of years time ) but, as I’ll say again, there is a balance to be had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 25 minutes ago, Ray has bus pass hooray said: I have three grandkids ages three, two and new born last week (all boys not that it matters) i'm looking forward to taking them to Hearts games hopefully costs will be kept lowish for kids. I had the eldest there for the Auchinleck game last year probably a bit too young he fidgeted a lot and he also watched me (grandson three months old) playing on the hallowed turf representing kickback against the Hearts All Stars last game before the old stand was ripped down close game we only got beat 10-0 Took both my daughters when they were kids from about 6 onwards. They enjoyed the sweets I bought them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 Two ways of looking at it. £30 is ok if you look at your price for that seat for a sevco league game. However, if you think the prices for the above game are high then it’s not really good at all. As Dave says, everyone won’t be happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hectormasson Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 49 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: **** them then eh? What a bizarre thing to say. All Hearts fans should be encouraged to contribute however little. I’m sure we used to have concessions for the unemployed, in today’s world that would be good. I’m lucky to be able to contribute as much as I want, it doesn’t mean I look down on others who can’t. Well said m8 that's true 👏👏👏🇶🇦🇶🇦🇶🇦 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dallas Green Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 Adults foaming at the mouth about Budge and a ticket price that has to he agreed between both clubs. Be annoyed at the price all you want. The issue here isnt Budge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 Just now, Dallas Green said: Adults foaming at the mouth about Budge and a ticket price that has to he agreed between both clubs. Be annoyed at the price all you want. The issue here isnt Budge. For Cup games, you’re spot on. Generally, I’m at a loss as to why we have 4 Cat A games at prices which are too high imo. For walk ups at Cat B games, there are cheaper tickets to be had but we charge some of the highest prices in the top flight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stendelnator Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 Plenty to criticise Budge for but this isn’t one of them, you can blame rangers for these prices. Hearts wanted £20. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoncurMacdonaldMercer Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, Stendelnator said: Plenty to criticise Budge for but this isn’t one of them, you can blame rangers for these prices. Hearts wanted £20. did queen Ann just roll over to our big cousins then if its ended up at £30 some foamer above is saying its nothing to do with queen budge and then contradicting themselves by saying the clubs needed to agree if we agreed why did we agree? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stendelnator Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 5 minutes ago, MoncurMacdonaldMercer said: did queen Ann just roll over to our big cousins then if its ended up at £30 some foamer above is saying its nothing to do with queen budge and then contradicting themselves by saying the clubs needed to agree if we agreed why did we agree? Because Rangers wanted £35 and wouldn’t go below £30, and in that case it goes to the SFA to decide the price. What do you think they’d have done? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tokyowalnut Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 1 hour ago, JCR said: Club wouldn’t want to introduce more concessions as people would take the piss, costing a fortune. Raith Rovers issued a statement a few years back saying they were losing thousands a year from people claiming to be disabled when they weren’t, Hearts would lose tens of thousands. The big clubs in Germany do have cheap standing tickets, but they still have seats costing hundreds at the same time. Interesting point. There was a guy behind me in the catering queue on Saturday bragging to his mate that he had bought a kids ticket online. Said Hearts were better off with his little contribution than no contribution. Not quite sure what people were expecting, the earlier rounds have been cheap. This was always going to be a £28-£35 game. It's not like this is a new price point. I have a season ticket, averages out at £27ish a game, an extra £3 for a big cup game against Rangers is hardly a surprise. If we pump them like we did a few weeks ago it will be worth every penny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XB52 Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 36 minutes ago, MoncurMacdonaldMercer said: did queen Ann just roll over to our big cousins then if its ended up at £30 some foamer above is saying its nothing to do with queen budge and then contradicting themselves by saying the clubs needed to agree if we agreed why did we agree? If we hadn't forced sevco down to £30 we would have been paying category A prices Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoncurMacdonaldMercer Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 2 hours ago, XB52 said: If we hadn't forced sevco down to £30 we would have been paying category A prices why didn't queen Ann not say £15 or something and take it to the dispute process and make a stand for the hearts fans - sounds like she's happy enough to accept the £30 similarly the impending roseburn sash bash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonlegions Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 Just bought my usual season ticket seat for the cup game. Glad i got my own seat. Saturday evening kick off, nae work the next day, bring it oan.. FTH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 14 minutes ago, MoncurMacdonaldMercer said: why didn't queen Ann not say £15 or something and take it to the dispute process and make a stand for the hearts fans - sounds like she's happy enough to accept the £30 similarly the impending roseburn sash bash Rangers had to be given the whole end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 4 hours ago, davemclaren said: Not bizarre mo. Unless we let folk in for nothing there will always be someone that can’t afford it. There are a range of prices and seats across the stadium and some games are cheaper than others. I think we last had concessions for the unemployed in the 80s where folk had to bring their ub40 ( do they still exist? ). I don’t have a problem with concessions ( looking forward to finally being one in a couple of years time ) but, as I’ll say again, there is a balance to be had. Yes I used to use it for my season ticket, alongside my 500 club vouchers bizarrely enough. I think it should be reintroduced, at midweek and big games you see so many different faces at games. I think we could lower some prices to encourage a full house, consequently sell less tickets to the uglies etc. A balance yes, more thought for our less fortunate fans wouldn’t go amiss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Potter Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 3 hours ago, Dallas Green said: Adults foaming at the mouth about Budge and a ticket price that has to he agreed between both clubs. Be annoyed at the price all you want. The issue here isnt Budge. Do you think its overpriced ?, i certainly do and ftr have not mentioned Anne. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XB52 Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 24 minutes ago, MoncurMacdonaldMercer said: why didn't queen Ann not say £15 or something and take it to the dispute process and make a stand for the hearts fans - sounds like she's happy enough to accept the £30 similarly the impending roseburn sash bash You obviously don't know the rules or are just ignoring them in your rush to have yet another boring go at our owner. If the clubs can't agree then the usual league prices apply Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XB52 Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 12 minutes ago, davemclaren said: Rangers had to be given the whole end. No no no, it's all Budge’s fault. Get with it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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