Coronavirus Super Thread ( merged )

[JimmyCant]

19 minutes ago, henryheart said:

 

This would be fair enough, but the clinically vulnerable will always be at risk. For example flu contributes to the winter death rate to the clinically vulnerable, but we don't wear masks to protect them from this. I would expect all clinically vulnerable people will have been offered 2 vaccinations by now and we are very close to all adults having been offered two vaccines, so where is she going with this?

I imagine she is going to mid to late September when all adults will have been double jabbed. Then she’ll make it advised but voluntary 

[JudyJudyJudy]

22 minutes ago, henryheart said:

 

This would be fair enough, but the clinically vulnerable will always be at risk. For example flu contributes to the winter death rate to the clinically vulnerable, but we don't wear masks to protect them from this. I would expect all clinically vulnerable people will have been offered 2 vaccinations by now and we are very close to all adults having been offered two vaccines, so where is she going with this?

Exactly . They were always at risk before covid . She cynically used this “ concern” about them to support her mask wearing agenda. When was the last time she mentioned the “ clinically vulnerable “ so explicitly ? 

[JimmyCant]

3 minutes ago, JamesM48 said:

Exactly . They were always at risk before covid . She cynically used this “ concern” about them to support her mask wearing agenda. When was the last time she mentioned the “ clinically vulnerable “ so explicitly ? 

Explain to me exactly what her ‘mask wearing agenda’ is. She wants us to wear masks in certain situations because ……….. why ?

[DETTY29]

1 hour ago, JamesM48 said:

Yeah Like that’s going to work ? Those exempt don’t have to divulge their medical exemption . Ofcourse it’ll bring out the Little Hitlers who attempt to enforce it . Let the mayhem begin 

As much as we don't like little hitlers (or the yellow jackets nowadays) despite whatever their official job title is, their real role is to annoy the hell out of the know it all, selfish, self entitled.

 

For which I have much admiration.

 

 

Edited July 14, 2021 by DETTY29

[JudyJudyJudy]

48 minutes ago, henryheart said:

 

Sturgeon has a record of putting her sidekicks on show to come out with what she suspects as being unpopular decisions to test the reaction. If there is an uproar then the date will be brought forward, Nic will be the hero and Swinney will look stupid, which isn't really that hard. Simple really.

In other words sleakit 

26 minutes ago, Enzo Chiefo said:

A lot of attempted point scoring going on from local politicians like Sturgeon,  Khan and Burnham, on the issue of mandating masks.

Sturgeon, in particular,  was fond of telling us in the past not to "stigmatise" those who didn't wear masks and "be kind" and "understanding to their sensitivities". She now appears to think that mandating wearing a bit of cloth on your face will make the difference for those who previously had to shield. It won't 

Just to be clear, if you want to impose mandatory masks then start imploring supermarkets, bus drivers etc to refuse entry,  ban, remove those who don't comply. 

Claiming mandation without being willing to follow up on enforcement is simply gesture politics which certainly doesn't help those shielding, the ones she won't "abandon".

I know she really tried to pull the heart strings yesterday with her so called “concerns “ and her use of emotive language like “ abandon “ which again indicates that these people are completely helpless and can’t make their own decisions without “ mother “ Sturgeon looking after them .  it didn’t wash with me and certainly many others . 

[JudyJudyJudy]

5 minutes ago, DETTY29 said:

As much as we don't like little hitlers (or the yellow jackets) despite whatever their official job title is, their real role is to annoy the hell out of the selfish, self entitled.

 

For which I have much admiration.

I’m sure you do . I don’t I know just they tend to be little Hitlers with an inflated ego and sense of responsibility 

[kila]

4 minutes ago, JamesM48 said:

In other words sleakit 

I know she really tried to pull the heart strings yesterday with her so called “concerns “ and her use of emotive language like “ abandon “ which again indicates that these people are completely helpless and can’t make their own decisions without “ mother “ Sturgeon looking after them .  it didn’t wash with me and certainly many others . 

 

For someone who goes on about how much they can't stand Sturgeon, you never fail to tune into her TV appearances.

[JudyJudyJudy]

1 minute ago, kila said:

 

For someone who goes on about how much they can't stand Sturgeon, you never fail to tune into her TV appearances.

I didn’t watch it ! I only read the reports about it on social media and most emphasised the “ clinically vulnerable “ issues which ofcourse she hoped she would .  Virtual signalling I believe it’s called.  

 

[DETTY29]

1 hour ago, Jambo-Jimbo said:

This seems to have slipped by without much of a mention.

 

It seems that some EU countries(a dozen or so) are refusing entry to British tourists because they have had an AZ/Oxford vaccine which was made in India, there is nothing wrong with the vaccine, but the EMA hasn't approved the AZ Indian made vaccine and are therefore refusing entry into their country.

 

The batch numbers affected are - 4120Z001, 4120Z002, 4120Z003 and can be found on your vaccine certificate.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/uk-travellers-indian-made-astrazeneca-vaccine-barred-holidays/

 

I wonder how that links back to the Scottish Covid Certificate?

 

My vaccine medicinal product is

 

VAXZEVRIA EU/1/21/1529

 

Wonder if 'EU' confirms approval or just coincidence?

 

 

[Governor Tarkin]

24 minutes ago, JimmyCant said:

She wants us to wear masks in certain situations because ……….. why ?

 

Because she's a ****. 🤷‍♂️

[kila]

3 minutes ago, JamesM48 said:

I didn’t watch it ! I only read the reports about it on social media and most emphasised the “ clinically vulnerable “ issues which ofcourse she hoped she would .  Virtual signalling I believe it’s called.  

 

So you didn't see it, you're just going by what your pals said on social media and you're repeating that on here? And I presume if you have a diverse selection of pals, it'll be the Enzo equivalent on Facebook that you made your assessment on?

 

[DETTY29]

15 minutes ago, JamesM48 said:

I’m sure you do . I don’t I know just they tend to be little Hitlers with an inflated ego and sense of responsibility 

Love watching someone being asked to do something reasonable but because of their self entitled attitude waste so much of their own time arguing back because they are an arse with the rest of the queue and eventually their own family going 'what a ******** *****'

 

I'm for as a stress free life as possible.  It's better for your own mental health than demanding the whole world revolve around you.

Edited July 14, 2021 by DETTY29

[Savage Vince]

49 minutes ago, Enzo Chiefo said:

A lot of attempted point scoring going on from local politicians like Sturgeon,  Khan and Burnham

 

 

😁

[Dazo]

10 minutes ago, Governor Tarkin said:

 

Because she's a ****. 🤷‍♂️

Correct answer. 
 

What I don’t get is this little piece of cloth didn’t stop us hurtling towards the highest case rate in Europe. 
 

She urged caution yesterday at the same time as lowering the latest unicorn levels she has made up. Confused the **** out of me. 

[Dazo]

9 minutes ago, DETTY29 said:

Love watching someone being asked to do something reasonable but because of their self entitled attitude waste so much of their own time arguing back because they are an arse with the rest of the queue and eventually their own family going 'what a ******** *****'

 

I'm for as a stress free life as possible.  It's better for your own mental health than demanding the whole world revolve around you.

I agree I love watching that also. I don’t like wearing them, especially in this heat but do so as and when. 

[Savage Vince]

12 minutes ago, JamesM48 said:

I didn’t watch it ! I only read the reports about it on social media and most emphasised the “ clinically vulnerable “ issues which ofcourse she hoped she would .  Virtual signalling I believe it’s called.  

 

 

You don't half post some chronic rubbish on this thread. 

[Ron Burgundy]

It's either deadly or not.

 

If so then anyone and that means anyone who is unable to wear a face covering( A little bit of shitty cloth) should not be allowed in public spaces until all restrictions are lifted. No fannying about. None of this lanyard bollox.

[The Mighty Thor]

13 minutes ago, DETTY29 said:

Love watching someone being asked to do something reasonable but because of their self entitled attitude waste so much of their own time arguing back because they are an arse with the rest of the queue and eventually their own family going 'what a ******** *****'

 

I'm for as a stress free life as possible.  It's better for your own mental health than demanding the whole world revolve around you.

 

3 minutes ago, Dazo said:

I agree I love watching that also. I don’t like wearing them, especially in this heat but do so as and when. 

This is where most grown ups are. 

 

A lot of people have spent the last year pissing and moaning about the infringements to their civil liberties and trying to find ways to get an exemption to the most basic of requests, to wear a mask, like it's a big victory. 

The review to the English covid rules has got them all worked up and the new buzz word of 'personal responsibility' is hilarious as they've spent 18 months trying to avoid taking any kind of personally responsible actions in the middle of a pandemic. 

Fuds to a man.  

 

 

 

[GBJambo]

If mask wearing is to continue they should make it that only the medical grade face masks are worn. Not this laughable bits of cotton or gaiters. 
Might as well as pull your jacket over your face as would have the same effect 

[JudyJudyJudy]

18 minutes ago, Savage Vince said:

 

You don't half post some chronic rubbish on this thread. 

 

[Costanza]

1 hour ago, henryheart said:

 

This would be fair enough, but the clinically vulnerable will always be at risk. For example flu contributes to the winter death rate to the clinically vulnerable, but we don't wear masks to protect them from this. I would expect all clinically vulnerable people will have been offered 2 vaccinations by now and we are very close to all adults having been offered two vaccines, so where is she going with this?

It's an interesting question regarding the clinically vulnerable and flu. I don't know the levels of shielding when flu is more prevalent but covid is more infectious and liable to hospitalise and cause serious illness than flu, and we have less immunity from previous infection with covid than flu,  so assume even with rhe vaccine it is considered more of a higher risk than flu, particularly as with Delta,infection rates higher than flu.

That's just an opinion as don't really know enough about shielding from the flu but given the number of articles on the clinically vulnerable and July 19th, would seem to suggest the risk is higher with covid.

[Victorian]

There's a wealth of understanding of the relationships between seasonal flu,  it's strains,  it's vaccination programme and the clinically vulnerable.  Nothing like the same knowledge regarding how coronavirus will compare.  They're not yet comparable. 

[JudyJudyJudy]

3 minutes ago, jonesy said:

A lot of interesting stuff about masks.

 

I went to the optician's earlier this week and, out of consideration for the optician wore my mask throughout the consultation. Halfway through, however, I had to ask her to step out the room because my breathing had gotten really shallow and I thought I was going to pass out. A few minute of mask-free breathing and we got there in the end. Same has happened in a supermarket last year. And yet, I can run about at 5s for an hour and have recently completed the West Highland Way at a fair clip. 

 

So it looks like we've got a mix of folk embracing wearing them (possibly out of social conscience, and perhaps out of holier-than-thou signalling), folk reasonably happy to wear them where they see a logical need, folk unhappy about wearing them but doing so because of peer pressure, folk unwilling to wear one out of concerns for personal freedom, folk with obvious health issues unable to wear them, and folk who can tolerate them for short amounts of time but with an impact on their health.

 

It's far from the 'but ma phreedums' v 'I'm a socially responsible person' debate that this thread (and probably most SM) boils it down to.

You forgot the “ I’ll only wear it if I really have to “ people . I’m in that category . If my not allowed in a shop I really want to go in ill Wear it if need be . If it’s a shop I’m not that fussed about it I’ll just forget it . If it’s a pub / restaurant I don’t mind as the ends justifies the means ( having a good time) If im on the bus and it’s Half to near enough empty and the windows are open Ill  not wear one. I won’t wear it in a nearly open air large venue like the new St James Quarter and haven’t worn it . Just like I wouldn’t have went to the footie last night ( We were offered a ticket ) as it was mandatory to wear one whilst in a massive very open air space . Ludicrous . 

[Taffin]

Is there modelling for what the outcome would be with face coverings vs without?

[Jambo-Jimbo]

1 hour ago, DETTY29 said:

I wonder how that links back to the Scottish Covid Certificate?

 

My vaccine medicinal product is

 

VAXZEVRIA EU/1/21/1529

 

Wonder if 'EU' confirms approval or just coincidence?

 

 

 

Don't know, but mine also has EU at the start (EU/1/20/1529), maybe it was made in the EU, sure we got some from a plant in the Netherlands.

I got my first dose in early March and the second in mid May, both have the same number, I'm assuming they were from the same batch.

 

[DETTY29]

Just now, Jambo-Jimbo said:

 

Don't know, but mine also has EU at the start (EU/1/20/1529), maybe it was made in the EU, sure we got some from a plant in the Netherlands.

I got my first dose in early March and the second in mid May, both have the same number, I'm assuming they were from the same batch.

 

I'm same.  First Friday in March then exactly 8 weeks later.

 

 

[Jambo-Jimbo]

2 minutes ago, DETTY29 said:

I'm same.  First Friday in March then exactly 8 weeks later.

 

 

 

First Tuesday in March then 11 weeks later.

[Governor Tarkin]

I ****ing hate wearing these shitty masks, and I ****ing hate seeing folk cutting about in them.

 

Face covering etiquette is just another layer of bullshit for folk to judge each other and snipe about.

 

When the time comes I'll be burning mine and dancing a merry jig.

 

Social distancing should also be renamed anti-social distancing, or just ****ing distancing, because that's what it ****ing is. Nothing ****ing social about it.

 

 

[Taffin]

Part of the social distancing and mask wearing guidance/logic is that you should assume you are contagious. If you are assuming you are contagious, then shouldn't you be self isolating? 

 

If you're wearing a mask the logic is that you think you might be contagious but have decided to go out and about anyway.

 

It's a somewhat more philosophical debate but what are people's thoughts on that?

[henryheart]

1 hour ago, JimmyCant said:

Explain to me exactly what her ‘mask wearing agenda’ is. She wants us to wear masks in certain situations because ……….. why ?

 

I would imagine that her agenda is the same as it always has been since the pandemic started; to do things a bit differently from Boris so that she can say that here in Scotland we are so much better than in England. The evidence indicates that this has not quite worked out to be the case, although she would no doubt say differently.  

[Enzo Chiefo]

1 hour ago, JamesM48 said:

In other words sleakit 

I know she really tried to pull the heart strings yesterday with her so called “concerns “ and her use of emotive language like “ abandon “ which again indicates that these people are completely helpless and can’t make their own decisions without “ mother “ Sturgeon looking after them .  it didn’t wash with me and certainly many others . 

Yes, that's her MO, James. Tug the heart strings and sound as if she cares. Faux empathy without a backbone to take the tough decisions needed to enforce the rules is pointless.

Ultimately, without enforcement, there is absolutely no difference between Scotland's and England's policy on masks.

The "we won't abandon you" comment was up there with the nauseous plea from Alyn Smith to the EU. "Leave a light on for Scotland ". 

 

 "Leave some vaccine for Scotland " would have been more apt had we listened to him and his ilk.

[JudyJudyJudy]

2 minutes ago, henryheart said:

 

I would imagine that her agenda is the same as it always has been since the pandemic started; to do things a bit differently from Boris so that she can say that here in Scotland we are so much better than in England. The evidence indicates that this has not quite worked out to be the case, although she would no doubt say differently.  

Yep . The worse rises in infections in the whole of Europe ! Wow . Top of the Europe league 

[Ray Gin]

4 minutes ago, henryheart said:

 

I would imagine that her agenda is the same as it always has been since the pandemic started; to do things a bit differently from Boris so that she can say that here in Scotland we are so much better than in England. The evidence indicates that this has not quite worked out to be the case, although she would no doubt say differently.  

 

Scotland has had a lower case rate throughout. We're getting a higher rate now since we have less people with immunity through prior infection. 

 

 

[henryheart]

16 minutes ago, Jambo-Jimbo said:

 

Don't know, but mine also has EU at the start (EU/1/20/1529), maybe it was made in the EU, sure we got some from a plant in the Netherlands.

I got my first dose in early March and the second in mid May, both have the same number, I'm assuming they were from the same batch.

 

 

Did you get this by applying for the certificate? I checked online and all it reveals for me is that I was vaccinated on 25 March and 6 June, that the manufacturer was AstraZeneca AB and that the medicinal product was Vaxzevria.

[JudyJudyJudy]

13 minutes ago, Governor Tarkin said:

I ****ing hate wearing these shitty masks, and I ****ing hate seeing folk cutting about in them.

 

Face covering etiquette is just another layer of bullshit for folk to judge each other and snipe about.

 

When the time comes I'll be burning mine and dancing a merry jig.

 

Social distancing should also be renamed anti-social distancing, or just ****ing distancing, because that's what it ****ing is. Nothing ****ing social about it.

 

 

👍

5 minutes ago, Enzo Chiefo said:

Yes, that's her MO, James. Tug the heart strings and sound as if she cares. Faux empathy without a backbone to take the tough decisions needed to enforce the rules is pointless.

Ultimately, without enforcement, there is absolutely no difference between Scotland's and England's policy on masks.

The "we won't abandon you" comment was up there with the nauseous plea from Alyn Smith to the EU. "Leave a light on for Scotland ". 

 

 "Leave some vaccine for Scotland " would have been more apt had we listened to him and his ilk.

Yes like I said I didn’t buy it yesterday . Please don’t remind me of that embarrassing “ leave a light on for Scotland 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 “ she’s a master of virtual signalling in almost every area of politics . She needs to remember the old adage “ you can fool some of the people some of the time but you can’t fool all the people all of the time “ ! Yesterday was a new low for her. 

[Jambo-Jimbo]

9 minutes ago, henryheart said:

 

Did you get this by applying for the certificate? I checked online and all it reveals for me is that I was vaccinated on 25 March and 6 June, that the manufacturer was AstraZeneca AB and that the medicinal product was Vaxzevria.

 

I downloaded the certificate in the brief window that they were available online, and I only downloaded it so as to show Mrs JJ it, as we'd had a conversation the day before that England were getting a card whilst Scotland wasn't, then I seen a post on this thread saying you can get them online.  A few days later NHS Scotland withdrew them online.

[Brighton Jambo]

14 minutes ago, Ray Gin said:

 

Scotland has had a lower case rate throughout. We're getting a higher rate now since we have less people with immunity through prior infection. 

 

 

So those longer harder lockdowns that we endured and which she said would see subsequently see restrictions removed more comprehensively and sooner for us have actually resulted in more restrictions for longer then the rest of the UK, again.  
 

You just couldn’t make this scale of clusterf@@k up if you tried.  

 

 

 

 

[JudyJudyJudy]

9 minutes ago, Brighton Jambo said:

So those longer harder lockdowns that we endured and which she said would see subsequently see restrictions removed more comprehensively and sooner for us have actually resulted in more restrictions for longer then the rest of the UK, again.  
 

You just couldn’t make this scale of clusterf@@k up if you tried.  

 

 

 

 

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[Ray Gin]

14 minutes ago, Brighton Jambo said:

So those longer harder lockdowns that we endured and which she said would see subsequently see restrictions removed more comprehensively and sooner for us have actually resulted in more restrictions for longer then the rest of the UK, again.  
 

You just couldn’t make this scale of clusterf@@k up if you tried.  

 

 

 

 

 

We had one less full nation lockdown to endure. We've also saved thousands of lives.

 

Not that I'd expect you to care about the latter.

 

Edited July 14, 2021 by Ray Gin

[Brighton Jambo]

1 minute ago, Ray Gin said:

 

We had one less full nation lockdown to endure. We've also saved thousands of lives.

 

Not that I'd expect you to care about the latter.

 

😂😂😂 I don’t think even you believe what you type most the time but goodness me if you do seek some help.  

[Ray Gin]

Just now, Brighton Jambo said:

😂😂😂 I don’t think even you believe what you type most the time but goodness me if you do seek some help.  

 

I don't have to believe it. It's there in the numbers. 

 

If Scotland had a similar death rate to England it would mean well over 3000 additional deaths.

 

 

 

[Konrad von Carstein]

20 hours ago, manaliveits105 said:

Does Sturgeon realise I can come home now next month 

Can you no just stay where you are?

 

 

[JudyJudyJudy]

25 minutes ago, Ray Gin said:

 

We had one less full nation lockdown to endure. We've also saved thousands of lives.

 

Not that I'd expect you to care about the latter.

 

We basically had a lockdown from October 2020 to May 2021 

[redjambo]

Scottish numbers: 14 July 2021

Summary

• 2,636 new cases of COVID-19 reported [+107; down from 3,799 a week ago]
• 35,849 new tests for COVID-19 that reported results [+12,045]
  • 8.1% of these were positive [-3.4%]
• 11 new reported death(s) of people who have tested positive [+7]
• 46 people were in intensive care yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19 [+5]
• 515 people were in hospital yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19 [+9]
• 3,948,446 people have received the first dose of the Covid vaccination and 2,914,904 have received their second dose [+6,875; +11,347]

[henryheart]

47 minutes ago, Jambo-Jimbo said:

 

I downloaded the certificate in the brief window that they were available online, and I only downloaded it so as to show Mrs JJ it, as we'd had a conversation the day before that England were getting a card whilst Scotland wasn't, then I seen a post on this thread saying you can get them online.  A few days later NHS Scotland withdrew them online.

 

Thanks for this. I've since read that Spain is not one of the countries blocking entry to those with the Indian batch, so that is one less hurdle to cross if I'm to get to the Canaries in November. Time will tell if I get there, but fingers crossed. 

[scott herbertson]

7 minutes ago, redjambo said:

Scottish numbers: 14 July 2021

Summary

• 2,636 new cases of COVID-19 reported [+107; down from 3,799 a week ago]
• 35,849 new tests for COVID-19 that reported results [+12,045]
  • 8.1% of these were positive [-3.4%]
• 11 new reported death(s) of people who have tested positive [+7]
• 46 people were in intensive care yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19 [+5]
• 515 people were in hospital yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19 [+9]
• 3,948,446 people have received the first dose of the Covid vaccination and 2,914,904 have received their second dose [+6,875; +11,347]

 

 

Does seem to be a prolonged plateauing then gradual decline of cases in prospect. Hospitilisations and deaths sadly still rising but that would be to be expected. Might see those turn down again soon.

 

 

 

 

[redjambo]

Today's trend stats. A solid decrease in the overall case rate (we had 3,799 cases last Wednesday compared to today's 2,636), spread reasonably evenly over the local authorities (the two large Lanarkshire areas noticeably resilient). The largest daily reported figure for deaths today in a while (11) pushing the death rate up. Hospitalisations and ICU patients moving inexorably upwards, but the 7-day positivity rate decreasing by almost half a point.

 

			7-day per-100,000 cases
Council Area	Tier	WHO	Today	Yesterday			12 Jul	11 Jul	10 Jul	9 Jul	8 Jul	...	1 May
Scotland			321	343	-22		340	344	356	373	384	...	22
Midlothian	2	4	624	660	-36		647	653	708	715	677	...	10
Dundee City	2	4	527	584	-57		589	614	668	721	757	...	13
Angus	1	4	445	473	-28		448	458	453	497	489	...	7
Inverclyde	1	4	443	446	-3		451	442	479	487	487	...	15
East Lothian	1	4	429	474	-45		463	486	512	523	516	...	5
Edinburgh City	2	4	428	465	-37		451	468	487	507	519	...	27
East Renfrewshire	2	4	395	412	-17		425	423	425	426	438	...	24
Glasgow City	2	4	376	397	-21		405	415	424	438	452	...	33
North Lanarkshire	2	4	369	370	-1		356	351	350	363	363	...	40
Renfrewshire	2	4	355	355	0		347	353	382	410	428	...	20
West Dunbartonshire	1	4	351	387	-36		380	382	401	442	467	...	28
Fife	1	4	336	366	-30		372	375	381	406	426	...	32
West Lothian	1	4	335	366	-31		368	356	368	383	363	...	26
Perth & Kinross	1	4	328	360	-32		359	367	384	439	482	...	22
Falkirk	1	4	323	344	-21		344	334	341	339	319	...	23
Aberdeen City	1	4	314	350	-36		348	362	376	391	420	...	13
East Dunbartonshire	2	4	282	328	-46		337	354	369	399	424	...	51
South Lanarkshire	2	4	251	253	-2		250	256	266	279	290	...	18
Scottish Borders	1	4	229	230	-1		237	246	268	292	293	...	6
Stirling	2	4	226	242	-16		248	230	238	240	240	...	11
North Ayrshire	2	4	211	251	-40		251	256	263	272	289	...	17
Aberdeenshire	1	4	201	212	-11		202	206	199	211	227	...	8
East Ayrshire	2	4	199	219	-20		211	222	248	279	325	...	45
Highland	1 / 0	4	199	209	-10		218	219	234	234	247	...	9
South Ayrshire	2	4	186	206	-20		201	202	224	237	222	...	25
Clackmannanshire	2	4	167	192	-25		196	192	210	210	202	...	14
Argyll & Bute	1 / 0	4	151	172	-21		169	158	168	184	208	...	7
Moray	1	3	148	125	+23		106	96	83	86	83	...	65
Shetland Islands	0	3	144	109	+35		74	65	52	44	44	...	0
Orkney Islands	0	3	117	126	-9		126	112	112	108	103	...	0
Dumfries & Galloway	1	3	111	124	-13		117	112	104	109	124	...	19
Na h-Eileanan Siar	0	2	45	64	-19		64	52	41	49	52	...	0
7-day averages			Today	Yesterday			12 Jul	11 Jul	10 Jul	9 Jul	8 Jul	...	1 May
Tests			18812	29577	-10765		29766	29608	30380	31438	31775	...	18484
Cases			2508	2674	-166		2650	2684	2781	2912	2999	...	171
Positivity rate %			9.5	9.9	-0.4		9.7	9.9	9.9	10.0	10.1	...	1.1
Deaths			4.6	3.7	+0.9		4.0	4.0	4.0	3.4	3.1	...	1.3
All Vaccinations			23467	24942	-1475		26331	26571	26787	26573	26825	...	45346
1st Dose			8324	8873	-549		9312	10118	10825	11346	12088	...	6677
2nd Dose			15143	16069	-926		17019	16453	15962	15227	14737	...	38669
Daily data
All in hospital			515	506	+9		469	444	435	427	401	...	65
Non-ICU			469	465	+4		429	404	393	388	363	...	54
ICU			46	41	+5		40	40	42	39	38	...	11

[JudyJudyJudy]

13 minutes ago, jonesy said:

Less of the 'we', please  

Thought we were all in this together ! 

[DETTY29]

Just now, redjambo said:

Today's trend stats. A solid decrease in the overall case rate (we had 3,799 cases last Wednesday compared to today's 2,636), spread reasonably evenly over the local authorities (the two large Lanarkshire areas noticeably resilient). The largest daily reported figure for deaths today in a while (11) pushing the death rate up. Hospitalisations and ICU patients moving inexorably upwards, but the 7-day positivity rate decreasing by almost half a point.

 

			7-day per-100,000 cases
Council Area	Tier	WHO	Today	Yesterday			12 Jul	11 Jul	10 Jul	9 Jul	8 Jul	...	1 May
Scotland			321	343	-22		340	344	356	373	384	...	22
Midlothian	2	4	624	660	-36		647	653	708	715	677	...	10
Dundee City	2	4	527	584	-57		589	614	668	721	757	...	13
Angus	1	4	445	473	-28		448	458	453	497	489	...	7
Inverclyde	1	4	443	446	-3		451	442	479	487	487	...	15
East Lothian	1	4	429	474	-45		463	486	512	523	516	...	5
Edinburgh City	2	4	428	465	-37		451	468	487	507	519	...	27
East Renfrewshire	2	4	395	412	-17		425	423	425	426	438	...	24
Glasgow City	2	4	376	397	-21		405	415	424	438	452	...	33
North Lanarkshire	2	4	369	370	-1		356	351	350	363	363	...	40
Renfrewshire	2	4	355	355	0		347	353	382	410	428	...	20
West Dunbartonshire	1	4	351	387	-36		380	382	401	442	467	...	28
Fife	1	4	336	366	-30		372	375	381	406	426	...	32
West Lothian	1	4	335	366	-31		368	356	368	383	363	...	26
Perth & Kinross	1	4	328	360	-32		359	367	384	439	482	...	22
Falkirk	1	4	323	344	-21		344	334	341	339	319	...	23
Aberdeen City	1	4	314	350	-36		348	362	376	391	420	...	13
East Dunbartonshire	2	4	282	328	-46		337	354	369	399	424	...	51
South Lanarkshire	2	4	251	253	-2		250	256	266	279	290	...	18
Scottish Borders	1	4	229	230	-1		237	246	268	292	293	...	6
Stirling	2	4	226	242	-16		248	230	238	240	240	...	11
North Ayrshire	2	4	211	251	-40		251	256	263	272	289	...	17
Aberdeenshire	1	4	201	212	-11		202	206	199	211	227	...	8
East Ayrshire	2	4	199	219	-20		211	222	248	279	325	...	45
Highland	1 / 0	4	199	209	-10		218	219	234	234	247	...	9
South Ayrshire	2	4	186	206	-20		201	202	224	237	222	...	25
Clackmannanshire	2	4	167	192	-25		196	192	210	210	202	...	14
Argyll & Bute	1 / 0	4	151	172	-21		169	158	168	184	208	...	7
Moray	1	3	148	125	+23		106	96	83	86	83	...	65
Shetland Islands	0	3	144	109	+35		74	65	52	44	44	...	0
Orkney Islands	0	3	117	126	-9		126	112	112	108	103	...	0
Dumfries & Galloway	1	3	111	124	-13		117	112	104	109	124	...	19
Na h-Eileanan Siar	0	2	45	64	-19		64	52	41	49	52	...	0
7-day averages			Today	Yesterday			12 Jul	11 Jul	10 Jul	9 Jul	8 Jul	...	1 May
Tests			18812	29577	-10765		29766	29608	30380	31438	31775	...	18484
Cases			2508	2674	-166		2650	2684	2781	2912	2999	...	171
Positivity rate %			9.5	9.9	-0.4		9.7	9.9	9.9	10.0	10.1	...	1.1
Deaths			4.6	3.7	+0.9		4.0	4.0	4.0	3.4	3.1	...	1.3
All Vaccinations			23467	24942	-1475		26331	26571	26787	26573	26825	...	45346
1st Dose			8324	8873	-549		9312	10118	10825	11346	12088	...	6677
2nd Dose			15143	16069	-926		17019	16453	15962	15227	14737	...	38669
Daily data
All in hospital			515	506	+9		469	444	435	427	401	...	65
Non-ICU			469	465	+4		429	404	393	388	363	...	54
ICU			46	41	+5		40	40	42	39	38	...	11

'Hoping' with ICU and hospitalisations these are in line with modelling expectations and nearing a peak with the lag.

 

I'd imagine that 1 covid hospitalisation is quite a bit more resource heavy than 1 in normal times.

[Fxxx the SPFL]

12 minutes ago, redjambo said:

Today's trend stats. A solid decrease in the overall case rate (we had 3,799 cases last Wednesday compared to today's 2,636), spread reasonably evenly over the local authorities (the two large Lanarkshire areas noticeably resilient). The largest daily reported figure for deaths today in a while (11) pushing the death rate up. Hospitalisations and ICU patients moving inexorably upwards, but the 7-day positivity rate decreasing by almost half a point.

 

			7-day per-100,000 cases
Council Area	Tier	WHO	Today	Yesterday			12 Jul	11 Jul	10 Jul	9 Jul	8 Jul	...	1 May
Scotland			321	343	-22		340	344	356	373	384	...	22
Midlothian	2	4	624	660	-36		647	653	708	715	677	...	10
Dundee City	2	4	527	584	-57		589	614	668	721	757	...	13
Angus	1	4	445	473	-28		448	458	453	497	489	...	7
Inverclyde	1	4	443	446	-3		451	442	479	487	487	...	15
East Lothian	1	4	429	474	-45		463	486	512	523	516	...	5
Edinburgh City	2	4	428	465	-37		451	468	487	507	519	...	27
East Renfrewshire	2	4	395	412	-17		425	423	425	426	438	...	24
Glasgow City	2	4	376	397	-21		405	415	424	438	452	...	33
North Lanarkshire	2	4	369	370	-1		356	351	350	363	363	...	40
Renfrewshire	2	4	355	355	0		347	353	382	410	428	...	20
West Dunbartonshire	1	4	351	387	-36		380	382	401	442	467	...	28
Fife	1	4	336	366	-30		372	375	381	406	426	...	32
West Lothian	1	4	335	366	-31		368	356	368	383	363	...	26
Perth & Kinross	1	4	328	360	-32		359	367	384	439	482	...	22
Falkirk	1	4	323	344	-21		344	334	341	339	319	...	23
Aberdeen City	1	4	314	350	-36		348	362	376	391	420	...	13
East Dunbartonshire	2	4	282	328	-46		337	354	369	399	424	...	51
South Lanarkshire	2	4	251	253	-2		250	256	266	279	290	...	18
Scottish Borders	1	4	229	230	-1		237	246	268	292	293	...	6
Stirling	2	4	226	242	-16		248	230	238	240	240	...	11
North Ayrshire	2	4	211	251	-40		251	256	263	272	289	...	17
Aberdeenshire	1	4	201	212	-11		202	206	199	211	227	...	8
East Ayrshire	2	4	199	219	-20		211	222	248	279	325	...	45
Highland	1 / 0	4	199	209	-10		218	219	234	234	247	...	9
South Ayrshire	2	4	186	206	-20		201	202	224	237	222	...	25
Clackmannanshire	2	4	167	192	-25		196	192	210	210	202	...	14
Argyll & Bute	1 / 0	4	151	172	-21		169	158	168	184	208	...	7
Moray	1	3	148	125	+23		106	96	83	86	83	...	65
Shetland Islands	0	3	144	109	+35		74	65	52	44	44	...	0
Orkney Islands	0	3	117	126	-9		126	112	112	108	103	...	0
Dumfries & Galloway	1	3	111	124	-13		117	112	104	109	124	...	19
Na h-Eileanan Siar	0	2	45	64	-19		64	52	41	49	52	...	0
7-day averages			Today	Yesterday			12 Jul	11 Jul	10 Jul	9 Jul	8 Jul	...	1 May
Tests			18812	29577	-10765		29766	29608	30380	31438	31775	...	18484
Cases			2508	2674	-166		2650	2684	2781	2912	2999	...	171
Positivity rate %			9.5	9.9	-0.4		9.7	9.9	9.9	10.0	10.1	...	1.1
Deaths			4.6	3.7	+0.9		4.0	4.0	4.0	3.4	3.1	...	1.3
All Vaccinations			23467	24942	-1475		26331	26571	26787	26573	26825	...	45346
1st Dose			8324	8873	-549		9312	10118	10825	11346	12088	...	6677
2nd Dose			15143	16069	-926		17019	16453	15962	15227	14737	...	38669
Daily data
All in hospital			515	506	+9		469	444	435	427	401	...	65
Non-ICU			469	465	+4		429	404	393	388	363	...	54
ICU			46	41	+5		40	40	42	39	38	...	11

we're coming down, we're coming down Scotland's coming down cheers Red.