Tom Hardy’s Dug Posted December 9, 2019 Posted December 9, 2019 What a set of total and utter shop fronts. Quote
Bauld Posted December 9, 2019 Posted December 9, 2019 Fans or club? I've only seen good things from the fans so far unless I have missed something they seem like a decent bunch. Quote
Dallas Green Posted December 9, 2019 Posted December 9, 2019 The owner seems like a prick. Can't imagine Budge would have proceeded if she though we were likely to get successfully sued. Quote
Crete Posted December 9, 2019 Posted December 9, 2019 Good luck to Barnsley for the rest of the season and a merry Christmas to all their fans.🎅🎄 Quote
Hectormasson Posted December 9, 2019 Posted December 9, 2019 1 minute ago, Bauld said: Fans or club? I've only seen good things from the fans so far unless I have missed something they seem like a decent bunch. Met a few in the old mathers at broughton street about 5year ago ,,before they headed down to easter road for a pre season game,seemed ok friendly as ,like..... Quote
Jamhammer Posted December 9, 2019 Posted December 9, 2019 The owners are total German helmets. The supporters are proper football fans. I’ve yet to meet anyone from Yorkshire I didn’t like. No front to them. Quote
jamboinglasgow Posted December 9, 2019 Posted December 9, 2019 Dont blame the club blame the owner. Sounds a nasty piece of work who is using American style legal tactics to get money. Basically legal action is going to cost you and we make it go on and on so why not give us money to make it go away. I am sure that Ann has been given correct legal advice before the announcement that she is very confident it wont go far in court. Quote
Rudy T Posted December 9, 2019 Posted December 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, gnasher75 said: Going to get messy!! Quote
rocketman19 Posted December 9, 2019 Posted December 9, 2019 Mrs Budge will have had sound legal advice before proceeding with the appointment so no concern here Quote
Jambo-Jimbo Posted December 9, 2019 Posted December 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, Dallas Green said: The owner seems like a prick. Can't imagine Budge would have proceeded if she though we were likely to get successfully sued. Exactly, she's a business woman whom would have taken legal advice before signing Stendel. Quote
Hungry hippo Posted December 9, 2019 Posted December 9, 2019 Their owner thinks we're due to pay compensation but we disagree - no big deal. If they think they're right it's fair enough and if they're wrong then they're just wasting their own time and money. Happy from a Hearts perspective that legal advice was sought and we were aware of the situation. Quote
Rudi5kaceldream1ng Posted December 9, 2019 Posted December 9, 2019 Stendel starts his job tomorrow & I believe his contract runs out at Barnsley at the end of the year? It’s hardly going to break the bank. Also they can’t stop stendel finding other employment under echr. Nothing to see here. Welcome stendel-lets get it right up the hibs and west coast media who are seething with this appointment. Quote
Locky Posted December 9, 2019 Posted December 9, 2019 9 minutes ago, jamboinglasgow said: Dont blame the club blame the owner. Sounds a nasty piece of work who is using American style legal tactics to get money. Basically legal action is going to cost you and we make it go on and on so why not give us money to make it go away. I am sure that Ann has been given correct legal advice before the announcement that she is very confident it wont go far in court. This. I don't see why fans are getting it tight over their owners decisions, when most of them don't agree with it anyway. Quote
lsimp77 Posted December 9, 2019 Posted December 9, 2019 Just give them Wighton, Clare and Bozanic for free Quote
neilnunb Posted December 9, 2019 Posted December 9, 2019 Hopefully everything is fine from our end. Let's be honest, the announcement on Saturday was to gloss over yet another pish result! Quote
Irufushi Posted December 9, 2019 Posted December 9, 2019 Ann will run this numpty out of town. Chancer. Quote
The Real Maroonblood Posted December 9, 2019 Posted December 9, 2019 16 minutes ago, Selkirkhmfc1874 said: Mrs Budge will have had sound legal advice before proceeding with the appointment so no concern here Yep. See you in court. Quote
Mikey1874 Posted December 9, 2019 Posted December 9, 2019 https://distinctathlete.com/2019/12/09/barnsley-pursue-legal-action-to-get-compensation-from-hearts-for-ex-boss-daniel-stendel/ Quote
i8hibsh Posted December 9, 2019 Posted December 9, 2019 10 minutes ago, lsimp77 said: Just give them Wighton, Clare and Bozanic for free Barnsley Owner "Hearts you owe us 500K" Hearts "Have Wighton, Clare and Bozanic " Barnsley Owner "OK, you now owe us £1 million" Quote
Marvin Posted December 9, 2019 Posted December 9, 2019 22 minutes ago, Selkirkhmfc1874 said: Mrs Budge will have had sound legal advice before proceeding with the appointment so no concern here That's what I'm thinking. Tinpot owners v astute Edinburgh business woman. My money is on the Edinburgh business woman. Quote
Hectormasson Posted December 9, 2019 Posted December 9, 2019 14 minutes ago, lsimp77 said: Just give them Wighton, Clare and Bozanic for free And white ? Quote
Captain Canada Posted December 9, 2019 Posted December 9, 2019 I had a feeling this might happen. This can rumble on in the background while we climb the table! Quote
Perth to Paisley Posted December 9, 2019 Posted December 9, 2019 I remember when a previous Chairman took legal advice and UEFA ended up doubling the fine! Just as well we have the top guys at the SFA to back us up. Quote
Heartsofgold Posted December 9, 2019 Posted December 9, 2019 13 minutes ago, Rudi5kaceldream1ng said: Stendel starts his job tomorrow & I believe his contract runs out at Barnsley at the end of the year? It’s hardly going to break the bank. Also they can’t stop stendel finding other employment under echr. Nothing to see here. Welcome stendel-lets get it right up the hibs and west coast media who are seething with this appointment. The idiotic yank in charge at Barnsley has no idea or conception of the principles behind constructive dismissal legislation in this country as they have no comparible laws in the US. An employer can hire and fire at will in the US (as long as their are grounds). They can also hold employees on restrictive contracts, basically indentured servitude. They cannot do the here under ECHR employment Laws. Dr Budge will have had both Scottish and English UK lawyers go over his contract and situation with a fine tooth comb. Quote
rocketman19 Posted December 9, 2019 Posted December 9, 2019 8 minutes ago, Captain Canada said: I had a feeling this might happen. This can rumble on in the background while we climb the table! Would imagine they'll stop paying stendel now aswell which could see him open proceedings against them Quote
Adam_the_legend Posted December 9, 2019 Posted December 9, 2019 9 minutes ago, Selkirkhmfc1874 said: Would imagine they'll stop paying stendel now aswell which could see him open proceedings against them Tbf that’s probably not an issue. Common thing to do when someone you’re paying secured new employment. Quote
graygo Posted December 9, 2019 Posted December 9, 2019 So they want payment for any of the other coaches who might join us? This could be fun. Quote
Hømme Posted December 9, 2019 Posted December 9, 2019 54 minutes ago, Jambo-Jimbo said: Exactly, she's a business woman whom would have taken legal advice before signing Stendel. Or got impulsive after yet another defeat at the weekend. Anyway it'll be for the clubs to decide. DS can get on with his job and that's the main thing. Quote
tian447 Posted December 9, 2019 Posted December 9, 2019 (edited) 34 minutes ago, i8hibsh said: Barnsley Owner "Hearts you owe us 500K" Hearts "Have Wighton, Clare and Bozanic " Barnsley Owner "OK, you now owe us £1 million" First entertaining post you've made in quite a while Edited December 9, 2019 by tian447 Quote
AGoodLaugh Posted December 9, 2019 Posted December 9, 2019 First thing I've been confident we'll win this season 😅 Quote
TheOak88 Posted December 9, 2019 Posted December 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Selkirkhmfc1874 said: Mrs Budge will have had sound legal advice before proceeding with the appointment so no concern here Her brother a lawyer as well aye? Quote
Fozzyonthefence Posted December 9, 2019 Posted December 9, 2019 33 minutes ago, Heartsofgold said: The idiotic yank in charge at Barnsley has no idea or conception of the principles behind constructive dismissal legislation in this country as they have no comparible laws in the US. An employer can hire and fire at will in the US (as long as their are grounds). They can also hold employees on restrictive contracts, basically indentured servitude. They cannot do the here under ECHR employment Laws. Dr Budge will have had both Scottish and English UK lawyers go over his contract and situation with a fine tooth comb. You may be right but I’m sure Barnsley will have taken legal advice on this too. As usual, the winners will be the lawyers. Has anyone actually reported on what they after compensation for yet? It doesn’t make any sense unless they are just trying to exploit a legal loophole. Surely the only one losing out here will be Stendel, losing his wages until the end of his contract? I don’t think this reflects well on Barnsley and other teams may be wary of doing business with them after this. Quote
Thomaso Posted December 9, 2019 Posted December 9, 2019 14 minutes ago, graygo said: So they want payment for any of the other coaches who might join us? This could be fun. Barnsley offered not pursue compensation for the back room staff on the premise Hearts paid compensation for Stendel. I can only think Ann’s lawyers have checked this out and told her Barnsley do not have a leg to stand on for their claim for any compensation whatsoever. Would think this could get taken to the Court of Sport Arbitration. Quote
FGJambo51 Posted December 9, 2019 Posted December 9, 2019 Barnsley accusing Stendel of talking to other club without Barnsley’s permission😬 Quote
Gershwin Posted December 9, 2019 Posted December 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Jamhammer said: The owners are total German helmets. The supporters are proper football fans. I’ve yet to meet anyone from Yorkshire I didn’t like. No front to them. I think you're confusing Barnsley with Bradford. Quote
Dr. Bapswent Posted December 9, 2019 Posted December 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Selkirkhmfc1874 said: Mrs Budge will have had sound legal advice before proceeding with the appointment so no concern here Why would we assume that the Barnsley owners would also not have this? Quote
Mikey1874 Posted December 9, 2019 Posted December 9, 2019 At least Barnsley are finally giving a bit more information to their fans. Subject to it all being lies of course. Quote
rocketman19 Posted December 9, 2019 Posted December 9, 2019 5 minutes ago, Dr. Bapswent said: Why would we assume that the Barnsley owners would also not have this? Personally I just trust Mrs Budge on this one Quote
gnasher75 Posted December 9, 2019 Posted December 9, 2019 11 minutes ago, FGJambo51 said: Barnsley accusing Stendel of talking to other club without Barnsley’s permission😬 Is this statement sponsored by Sky Bet? Quote
Dr. Bapswent Posted December 9, 2019 Posted December 9, 2019 4 minutes ago, Selkirkhmfc1874 said: Personally I just trust Mrs Budge on this one Let's hope you're right. Quote
Zico Posted December 9, 2019 Posted December 9, 2019 Barnsley fans on here were all sound. Owner seems like a Poundland Vlad. Quote
hueyview Posted December 9, 2019 Posted December 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Rudy T said: Going to get messy!! Pity its not Messi..... Quote
Auldreekie1874 Posted December 9, 2019 Posted December 9, 2019 Interesting last paragraph of Barnsley’s statement considering the Een are telling us Stendel will only be bringing one member of staff with him. Quote
Ribble Posted December 9, 2019 Posted December 9, 2019 Mrs Budge doesn't really have far to go for Legal advice seeing as Donald Cumming is on our board! Quote
Hearts1975 Posted December 9, 2019 Posted December 9, 2019 Just now, Auldreekie1874 said: Interesting last paragraph of Barnsley’s statement considering the Een are telling us Stendel will only be bringing one member of staff with him. Just what I was thinking 🤔 Quote
The Maroon Jacket Posted December 9, 2019 Posted December 9, 2019 Could be a job for Petrocelli Quote
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