manaliveits105 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 Hopefully Sturgeon will resign early next year - absolutely no policies or political nuance except to stamp her feet and scream and scream independence NO happening Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankblack Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 1 minute ago, manaliveits105 said: Hopefully Sturgeon will resign early next year - absolutely no policies or political nuance except to stamp her feet and scream and scream independence NO happening It wil be interesting to see what happens if the SNP get well below 50% of the vote share, as that will show them how pointless holding another referendum would be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 9 hours ago, frankblack said: It wil be interesting to see what happens if the SNP get well below 50% of the vote share, as that will show them how pointless holding another referendum would be. Eh? Don't talk shite. So if the Conservative and Unionist Party receive less than 50% , it's independence on Friday. What would be the point of carrying on with Union? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pans Jambo Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 That woman walks on water. Give her a sainthood when she finally goes. Wonderful how she pisses the "Ian Paisley" types on here clean off. Must be a threat to their "God save the Empire" club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 My neighbours sisters neighbour used to wear a kilt and listen to the Corries but doesn't trust the FM and is voting Tory who knew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankblack Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 2 hours ago, ri Alban said: Eh? Don't talk shite. So if the Conservative and Unionist Party receive less than 50% , it's independence on Friday. What would be the point of carrying on with Union? Basic maths, pal. You wouldn't have the numbers to make a referendum viable and Westminster can tell you that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Der Kaiser Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Nicola should just have a TV campaign that has her holding hands with Judith Ralston. "Vote SNP on Thursday and we'll kiss." 50% vote share guaranteed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spitonastranger Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 2 hours ago, manaliveits105 said: My neighbours sisters neighbour used to wear a kilt and listen to the Corries but doesn't trust the FM and is voting Tory who knew Bet they also like rugger, who knew. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 4 hours ago, frankblack said: Basic maths, pal. You wouldn't have the numbers to make a referendum viable and Westminster can tell you that. Nonsense, so if the SNP win 45+ seats with 44% of the vote, there's no referendum? But if the Tories win a majority with 44% they can no deal Brexit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 5 hours ago, manaliveits105 said: My neighbours sisters neighbour used to wear a kilt and listen to the Corries but doesn't trust the FM and is voting Tory who knew How would you react if Nicola Sturgeon ran away from an interviewer on live TV and hid in a closet instead of doing the interview she promised? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 17 hours ago, manaliveits105 said: Hopefully Sturgeon will resign early next year - absolutely no policies or political nuance except to stamp her feet and scream and scream independence NO happening 17 hours ago, frankblack said: It wil be interesting to see what happens if the SNP get well below 50% of the vote share, as that will show them how pointless holding another referendum would be. So why so scared of holding one then? There is an elected majority in favour of one at Holyrood right now, so if they have no chance of winning, why not hold it? Show it up for what it is? Beat them! Anyone voting Tory to spite the SNP or not voting tactically to eradicate the Tories because it means the SNP win a seat are pathetic IMO. The Tories are a much worse clear and present danger to this country (Scotland and the UK) than anything else. You should be comfortable that if another indy ref soon, no would win again (IMO). Five years of Johnson and the swing to indy may become irreversible. So, ironically, hatred of the SNP will ultimately hand them their prize. All IMO, of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ribble Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 On 08/12/2019 at 10:15, Sarah O said: I love a JKB political themed thread. Despite the majority of JKB supporting Scottish Independence and the majority supporting the SNP in the upcoming election, it's the same old blow hards gnashing their teeth and howling at the moon time and time again about SNPBAD!!11!!1 Must be exhausting to be so full of negative thinking. *Majority of JKB members that can be arsed to vote on jkb political polls Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 We held one - We said naw We will say Naw to having another one nobody wants a further 10 years of even worse austerity because the nats have no policies for independence and our deficit will bar us from joining EU Tory landslide and indyref2 denied Glorious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 1 minute ago, manaliveits105 said: We held one - We said naw We will say Naw to having another one nobody wants a further 10 years of even worse austerity because the nats have no policies for independence and our deficit will bar us from joining EU Tory landslide and indyref2 denied Glorious Apparently many do want at least another 5 as the polls have the Tories in front. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxy Hearts Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 39 minutes ago, manaliveits105 said: We held one - We said naw We will say Naw to having another one nobody wants a further 10 years of even worse austerity because the nats have no policies for independence and our deficit will bar us from joining EU Tory landslide and indyref2 denied Glorious There would be a Scottish general election after the Indy vote. Parties then put policies forward to vote on. That's the point! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 On 05/12/2019 at 15:26, manaliveits105 said: . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pans Jambo Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Zlatanable said: I cannot stand her, her face, her voice, her party, her behaviour, her politics. Thats because your a vile, horrible tory unionist. We Nicola supporters cant stand you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxy Hearts Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 3 minutes ago, manaliveits105 said: . Ruth FN Davidson? Loony twat of a woman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pans Jambo Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Just now, Zlatanable said: Exactly. Im not a tory, I'm not vile and I think Scottish Indy is practically insane. Nicola Sturgeon, and SNP have failed on many occasions. But like #brexit, #indyref trumps rational day to day life. Spoken like a true Conservative. Just come out the closet. Boris is yer man. Admit it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pans Jambo Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 1 minute ago, Zlatanable said: Modern Civic Scotland. Well done Nicola Sturgeon. She’s brilliant eh 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pans Jambo Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Just now, Zlatanable said: No, Nicola Sturgeon and the SNP, and you and Scottish Nationalism are horrendous. No weer no Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 7 hours ago, Zlatanable said: No, Nicola Sturgeon and the SNP, and you and Scottish Nationalism are horrendous. Big Scotsman pumped ma bird, type post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 9 hours ago, Pans Jambo said: Thats because your a vile, horrible tory unionist. We Nicola supporters cant stand you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ron Burgundy Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 2 hours ago, ri Alban said: Big Scotsman pumped ma bird, type post. Would that have been a consensual pumping or was the big Scotsman Alex Salmond? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ainsley Harriott Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 19 hours ago, ri Alban said: Nonsense, so if the SNP win 45+ seats with 44% of the vote, there's no referendum? But if the Tories win a majority with 44% they can no deal Brexit? If the SNP win around 44% ii shows not much has changed since 2014 and therefore there's no new appetite for independence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimKongUno Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 20 hours ago, Ray Gin said: How would you react if Nicola Sturgeon ran away from an interviewer on live TV and hid in a closet instead of doing the interview she promised? It would be great if she hid in cupboards at interview time , then we wouldnt have to listen to her ranting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Z Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 We can always count on you for an absolutely worthless take, so thanks for your contribution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 55 minutes ago, Ainsley Harriott said: If the SNP win around 44% ii shows not much has changed since 2014 and therefore there's no new appetite for independence. By that logic if SNP win 51% it shows that there's no need for a referendum and independence should just be pushed straight through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ainsley Harriott Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, Ray Gin said: By that logic if SNP win 51% it shows that there's no need for a referendum and independence should just be pushed straight through. My point was that is would remove the myth there has been a big swing towards Independence like they have tried to paint thorough the media. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 24 minutes ago, JimKongUno said: It would be great if she hid in cupboards at interview time , then we wouldnt have to listen to her ranting You don't have to listen to her. Unless you are strapped to a chair Clockwork Orange style and being forced... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 11 minutes ago, Ray Gin said: By that logic if SNP win 51% it shows that there's no need for a referendum and independence should just be pushed straight through. 8 minutes ago, Ainsley Harriott said: My point was that is would remove the myth there has been a big swing towards Independence like they have tried to paint thorough the media. Received a message from my former lab-manager, an English woman married to Welshman with two Scottish kids. She is voting SNP this time around. She is undecided on independence though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zico Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 2 hours ago, Ron Burgundy said: Would that have been a consensual pumping or was the big Scotsman Alex Salmond? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankblack Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 6 hours ago, Icon of Symmetry said: Received a message from my former lab-manager, an English woman married to Welshman with two Scottish kids. She is voting SNP this time around. She is undecided on independence though. That is a major point being missed by many that think Independence is in the bag. Many will want the same rights as those over the border, not least the right to move there for work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah O Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 20 hours ago, Zlatanable said: I cannot stand her, her face, her voice, her party, her behaviour, her politics. sucks to be you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, frankblack said: That is a major point being missed by many that think Independence is in the bag. Many will want the same rights as those over the border, not least the right to move there for work. I don’t think it’s in the bag, my friend. Far from it actually. If Scotland did finally regain its independence, then there would be the EU membership question too. That’s a lot of different pros and cons for people and they are personal and often separate from one person to the next. Basically there’s so many different narratives involved, it makes the polls virtually worthless for gauging outcomes in the future. Some people will vote on day to day policies that affect them, others in independence, and others still on EU membership. Then there’s the tactical voting to keep certain parties at bay. Edited December 12, 2019 by Icon of Symmetry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 Loved the tweet Sturgeon put up of Jackass Carlaw’s tweets. One two weeks ago saying he was sending his postal vote and a tweet from today saying he’d cast his vote in clarkston. 😂 Lying hound ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucky Thompson Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 10 hours ago, Ron Burgundy said: Would that have been a consensual pumping or was the big Scotsman Alex Salmond? Brilliant Ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 14 hours ago, Ainsley Harriott said: My point was that is would remove the myth there has been a big swing towards Independence like they have tried to paint thorough the media. 37% in 2017 , predicted 45%+, is that not a big swing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 2 hours ago, ri Alban said: 37% in 2017 , predicted 45%+, is that not a big swing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 48 minutes ago, The Real Maroonblood said: No doubt, The SNP be held to different standards, or rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 19 hours ago, Ainsley Harriott said: If the SNP win around 44% ii shows not much has changed since 2014 and therefore there's no new appetite for independence. Spot on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, manaliveits105 said: Spot on Yawn! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ainsley Harriott Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 23 minutes ago, Zlatanable said: Brexit and indy have stayed about the same. I dread #indyref2, cos it will be deeply unpleasant. I can't see Boris caving and allowing it he has no reason to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Potter Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 Looked a bit leeds united on the tv, . talking about a 2nd indy, shock there likes, not., Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 2 hours ago, Ainsley Harriott said: I can't see Boris caving and allowing it he has no reason to. Plays right into the SNP’s hands. Im not sure how they handle it tbh but flat out refusing is gold to the SNP imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ainsley Harriott Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 14 minutes ago, jack D and coke said: Plays right into the SNP’s hands. Im not sure how they handle it tbh but flat out refusing is gold to the SNP imo. I think he will go down the let's get brexit done first so you can all get a taste of proper independence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, Ainsley Harriott said: I think he will go down the let's get brexit done first so you can all get a taste of proper independence What he is offering isn’t brexit. Not by a long stretch. It sounds good to the people who have no idea what they voted for in the first place though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pans Jambo Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 5 minutes ago, Ainsley Harriott said: I think he will go down the let's get brexit done first so you can all get a taste of proper independence The "leave" part will be done quickly I agree but the future relationship and the trade rules and the movement of people and the border arrangements and the negotiations and wrangling will take YEARS and YEARS and YEARS. Get Brexit done my arse! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 4 hours ago, ri Alban said: No doubt, The SNP be held to different standards, or rules. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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