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1 minute ago, JimmyCant said:

It’s not really self explanatory and it’s certainly not open, unless you know what thought processes were applied to exclude some applications and progress others. Unless you know who was consulted or involved in the process of elimination. Do we think that only the financial director was consulted or do we think she consulted others. How and when did Stendel emerge as the front runner. There was a suggestion in the program that he was the preferred choice from day 1, although that wasn’t confirmed by AB. Would have given the episode a bit more depth if AB had been shown dealing with this in detail . A pile of CV’s  and the odd comment ‘ Good Guy, Good Guy, Cant ‘ without naming names would have been interesting. Did she do all that herself or did she have help with it is what I’m driving at.

 

The recruitment process for most companies is boring as **** Tbh and as previous stated pretty uniform for every club. 

 

Who cares who was involved or not, Budge is in charge and makes the call? 

Stendel was appointed by her. 

 

Maybe you wanted a more in depth look at it - fair doos but football recruitment is pretty standard and unexciting imo. 

I Hope they don't waste to much time on it Tbh in the future as it's only 3 parts. 

 

I think I'm gonna wait and watch all 3 together, Not a fan of a cliffhanger. 

 

 

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1 minute ago, Smith's right boot said:

 

The recruitment process for most companies is boring as **** Tbh and as previous stated pretty uniform for every club. 

 

Who cares who was involved or not, Budge is in charge and makes the call? 

Stendel was appointed by her. 

 

Maybe you wanted a more in depth look at it - fair doos but football recruitment is pretty standard and unexciting imo. 

I Hope they don't waste to much time on it Tbh in the future as it's only 3 parts. 

 

I think I'm gonna wait and watch all 3 together, Not a fan of a cliffhanger. 

 

 

 

A cliffhanger where we all know the ending.

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My thoughts on the documentary were that the production was a bit amateurish but in fairness, it was BBC Scotland. I wouldn't expect anything more.

Levein did come across as quite emotional about the whole thing then i remembered that when he was sacked he was still hanging around instead of manning up and walking away. I can't imagine Stendel would've been happy about a sacked manager still looking over him or even still at the club. 

McPhee came across just as i expected him to, dull, couldn't work out how to change things (learnt from his head coach in all honesty) so it was no surprise the players didn't know what to do either. No leadership. 

Shame the documentary had a bit of a "meh!" feel about it. Thought it was slightly disappointing. Not enough focus on games Levein was involved in, fan reaction and thoughts and more interested in following Ann Budge around knocking on office doors. I will watch it again. Sometimes you see things you've missed first time around but i am hoping that part 2 is much more substance. 

I am still glad the documentary team chose to do Hearts as opposed to anyone else. Imagine all the arse-licking that would've been going on if it had been Celtic for example? Or how dull and boring it would've been if they chose a Motherwell or Ross County? No managerial changes? No controversy? I believe there would be a lot more that was filmed during Levein's last months than what was or will be shown.

Looking for a step-up in quality and content for parts two & three.

 

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1 minute ago, ToqueJambo said:

 

A cliffhanger where we all know the ending.

 

Aye, but we all know that, it's the road we take that was interesting! 

 

I know I  don't want 3 hours on our HR function! 😂

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11 minutes ago, HamishMcGonagall said:

Just watching it now - When Macphee goes up for a header in training at St. Andrew's and completely misses the ball and lands on his erse.... HAHAHA

 

I feel a bit sorry for McPhee. He didn't deserve the focus on him. The producers clearly decided to fit the pandemic story in they had to start from Stendel's appointment which means more focus on McPhee than Levein in terms of the "fly on the wall" stuff.

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Wonder if the next part will show how Perrera was the best at dodge ball at the club.

 

Still say a half decent keeper and we wouldn't have been bottom 

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I've heard today from a couple of non Hearts football supporters who all thought it was a decent and interesting programme. Our perspective as Hearts supporters is different, it all means so much more and we would all have opinions on last season we want to see endorsed in the programme. A lot of the complaints here would be echoed by season ticket holders at Real Kashmir complaining their documentary spent far too long chatting to the manager's Mrs 😉

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Just now, ToqueJambo said:

 

On a programme like this you can only show so much in the time given. I got the impression part 1 was setting the scene and introducing the main characters plus some background to why Stendel had to be brought in. The next two will be more explosive, following Stendel's attempts to turn our form around and then the pandemic hitting.

 

As for appointing Stendel, Budge had a checklist of things she wanted from a manager - style of football, experience, ability, affordability, willingness to promote young players, character... to many of us Stendel ticked all the boxes, same as Neilson. It's not hard to see how his CV would have stood out immediately. The German and Bundesliga thing wouldn't have hurt given German coaches are all the rage right now.

 

I said at the time of Stendel's appointment that it would take him 18 months to turn the club around.  Stendel was exactly the appointment that she herself said she was looking for. Someone who wants to work hard with young players, he did, improve some of the players already at the club, he did, a more attacking style of play, again he did. I watched the Barnsley video on YouTube at the time and what was said and what Ann Budge wanted was almost identical. Stendel was the right appointment but it came too late. He was given a poor hand to start with. Too many players in their Levein bubble or comfort zone. He got rid of a few non-triers but was never going to be able to lose too many at the one time. It was going to have to be one or two here and there as often as he could until he was rid of the ones he was unhappy about. I still believe he would've given us a real attractive team to watch and be proud of. He was never given long enough to prove himself because of Covid which is why i would never slate the guy on a 3/4 month stretch.

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Why are people expecting match highlights and more about our on field woes at the time? The title of the program surely must give it away......INSIDE Tynecastle.

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9 minutes ago, Madjambo21 said:

Wonder if the next part will show how Perrera was the best at dodge ball at the club.

 

Still say a half decent keeper and we wouldn't have been bottom 

 

Whilst it's obviously hard to prove it, I am more than happy to say, FACT, if we had Craig Gordon in goals last season we would 100% not have been relegated.

 

I reckon even I could have saved us a few points if I was in goals and my experience is from five a sides and high school football 😂

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48 minutes ago, Ex member of the SaS said:

Was dreading what it would show and was pleasantly surprised. However the two things I took from that is; Levein knew he was shite and didn't do the right thing, even after Ann said he would be the first to say it, and being a PHM ( as some suggest ) he should have walked. I have said many times Levein and money are his only interest.

And two: IF we had such big names allegedly asking for an interview, why didn't we see them and why did it take so long to pick one? Ok some would have wanted huge wages, BUT, surely if you want an interview you would look into the circumstances of the club and know we were never going to push the boat out.

The players at the time have a lot to answer and they should never be bigger than the club. Stendel I feel would have done better had he been appointed a couple of weeks earlier ( but we had the sacking/leaving issue to sort out ) and McPhee couldn't get the players to respect the manager, so when Stendel came in he had already lost the battle.

For all the good Ann has done I get the feeling a lot of money has been wasted or mishandled and too many lies or misinformation ( mostly about the pitch ) means she brought upon herself a lot more stick than she should have.

Are you really saying managers who applied for the job should have been named on camera, interviewed and then made to face the camera just to please you ?

Your naivety in regards to managers applying for the post is just laughable...agents work for managers and fire off CV's at a moments notice..they don't stop to think about the club and it's needs financially or otherwise and a manger does not know initially the salary on offer...much of it is done to keep them in the public eye

 

So much nonsense and again another chance to put the boot onto Levein/Budge which lets face it is the reason for your post

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1 hour ago, Saughton Jambo said:

He used the old onion trick before he was interviewed to gain sympathy.
 

The oldest trick in the book and one I’ve used many a time when going out for a beer on a Saturday after the game,  and then coming home disheveled on a Tuesday morning. 😢

Why am I not surprised at that 😂😂

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Low budget effort from BBC Scotland or not I thought is was good.  Obviously the outcome perhaps sways a few folk but seeing Hearts fans, real people, parts of the city, the ground, the players, seeing behind the scenes as well as all the staff at the club and the chat, yep all good for me.  It made me feel even more connected to the club.  

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26 minutes ago, jambonian said:

 

I said at the time of Stendel's appointment that it would take him 18 months to turn the club around.  Stendel was exactly the appointment that she herself said she was looking for. Someone who wants to work hard with young players, he did, improve some of the players already at the club, he did, a more attacking style of play, again he did. I watched the Barnsley video on YouTube at the time and what was said and what Ann Budge wanted was almost identical. Stendel was the right appointment but it came too late. He was given a poor hand to start with. Too many players in their Levein bubble or comfort zone. He got rid of a few non-triers but was never going to be able to lose too many at the one time. It was going to have to be one or two here and there as often as he could until he was rid of the ones he was unhappy about. I still believe he would've given us a real attractive team to watch and be proud of. He was never given long enough to prove himself because of Covid which is why i would never slate the guy on a 3/4 month stretch.

Pretty much where I'm at. Felt really sorry for Stendel and the way he was treated with regards to Robbie coming in (however, I'm a big fan of RN and not complaining he's running things.) 

I just wish Stendel had been given this season to get his ethos across and own players bedded in - would have been interesting.

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Just watched it over my lunch break.

Thought it was fine, not too much controversy and quite nice to see Gary Locke buzzing about the place.

 

Quite incredible to think that was all a year ago. Seems a lot longer.

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5 minutes ago, heartsfc_fan said:

Just watched it over my lunch break.

Thought it was fine, not too much controversy and quite nice to see Gary Locke buzzing about the place.

 

Quite incredible to think that was all a year ago. Seems a lot longer.

The whole episode confirmed one thing for me.....Gary Locke is definitely orange.

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Absolutely infuriating to watch, what a fecking clown levein was. 

Gary Locke is class though. 

The show has made me feel so bloody glad we are where we are now. Not the league we want but things seem to be getting done correctly now. HHGH.

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I enjoyed it, thought it was interesting to see a few areas not normally in the public view.

 

I am a bit surprised to see so many people (especially earlier in the thread) who are apparently disappointed that the programme didn't rip into us more and air our dirty laundry in public. Not sure how that could benefit us as a club. 

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15 minutes ago, HoGwash said:

I enjoyed it, thought it was interesting to see a few areas not normally in the public view.

 

I am a bit surprised to see so many people (especially earlier in the thread) who are apparently disappointed that the programme didn't rip into us more and air our dirty laundry in public. Not sure how that could benefit us as a club. 

It wouldn’t. 

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Really enjoyed the programme,I have been struggling of late with my mental health and it was nice to be reminded of some sort of normality and of why I love this club.

 

Was nice to see some familiar faces.

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7 hours ago, SectionDJambo said:

My goodness.

They really are ruined, aren't they. Brainwashed nitwits who still think their club is some shining light of honesty, flair and innovation.

Didn't they hear Ann Budge explain her loan to Hearts, or see and hear the FOH board meeting? £125,000 each month from fans who want to, and are able to, help their club.

 They were annoyed that the cameras didn't show Ann emptying the poppy fund collection tins.

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1 minute ago, Tommy Brown said:

 They were annoyed that the cameras didn't show Ann emptying the poppy fund collection tins.

Now that would have been a hoot to set up for a supreme trolling of those nitwits. 

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2 hours ago, jambonian said:

 

I said at the time of Stendel's appointment that it would take him 18 months to turn the club around.  Stendel was exactly the appointment that she herself said she was looking for. Someone who wants to work hard with young players, he did, improve some of the players already at the club, he did, a more attacking style of play, again he did. I watched the Barnsley video on YouTube at the time and what was said and what Ann Budge wanted was almost identical. Stendel was the right appointment but it came too late. He was given a poor hand to start with. Too many players in their Levein bubble or comfort zone. He got rid of a few non-triers but was never going to be able to lose too many at the one time. It was going to have to be one or two here and there as often as he could until he was rid of the ones he was unhappy about. I still believe he would've given us a real attractive team to watch and be proud of. He was never given long enough to prove himself because of Covid which is why i would never slate the guy on a 3/4 month stretch.

 

Stendel did a mostly terrible job given his goal was to keep us up and he would not have been the right man to bring us back from the Championship. I do think he could have turned it around with us in the Premiership if he'd kept us up though, although he was running out of time to do that when the pandemic hit. I also think we'd have had a decent chance of winning the cup with him. We can only judge him on his time with us though and he took far too long to acknowledge the dire predicament we were in. Very possibly right manager wrong time, but then we can also say things might have been very different if injuries hadn't hit Levein's side in 18/19.

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2 minutes ago, SectionDJambo said:

Now that would have been a hoot to set up for a supreme trolling of those nitwits. 

Great image of Ann with the tin upside down with a knife in the coin slot.

 

Aw the .net clowns, "ah Kent it"

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Just now, Tommy Brown said:

Great image of Ann with the tin upside down with a knife in the coin slot.

 

Aw the .net clowns, "ah Kent it"

 

What I wanted to see was Craig Levein appearing in the background in various guises - cleaner, chef, doorman, office worker...

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Given some of the complaints re the programme and the running of the club I think the assistant groundsman summed it up nicely in one clip.

Shout all you like from the stand but when offered the fork to actually do the hard work, most folks shy away.

 

As some have said it was lightweight but it wasn't made for Hearts fans, who know a good deal of the story already, and it fits nicely into a dreech Monday evening winter slot and gives enough information and entertainment for any neutrals watching. 

 

Like all these types of shows they are looking for a character/emotional leader like Gary Locke who will bleed for the organisation even if asked to clean the loos. A wee bit of serious emotional stuff like the McCraes and general behind the scenes nonsense, shadowing those who have to do some of the more mundane things that lets us all enjoy our club and games days in particular.

 

I suspect it might warm up as it heads towards the end of the season and the shenannigans regards Covid etc. However not sure how much access the BBC would have had during lockdown. 

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54 minutes ago, Leveins Battalion said:

Really enjoyed the programme,I have been struggling of late with my mental health and it was nice to be reminded of some sort of normality and of why I love this club.

 

Was nice to see some familiar faces.

 

Hope you're doing ok LB. My DM's always open if you need an ear 👍

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2 hours ago, i8hibsh said:

Why are people expecting match highlights and more about our on field woes at the time? The title of the program surely must give it away......INSIDE Tynecastle.


Fair point plus having been at all the home games and few away I’m not sure I or the viewer want to see a rerun of any of them towards the end of CL era were utter gash. 

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17 minutes ago, hmfc_liam06 said:

Really enjoyed the programme,I have been struggling of late with my mental health and it was nice to be reminded of some sort of normality and of why I love this club.

 

Was nice to see some familiar faces.

I also really enjoyed it. Hopefully we will be all back together soon.

Keep you head up Liam. Take care.

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7 minutes ago, Rizla said:

I also really enjoyed it. Hopefully we will be all back together soon.

Keep you head up Liam. Take care.

 

Weird, it's quoted me but it was Levein's Battalion with the original quote.

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42 minutes ago, Cruickie's Moustache said:

Given some of the complaints re the programme and the running of the club I think the assistant groundsman summed it up nicely in one clip.

Shout all you like from the stand but when offered the fork to actually do the hard work, most folks shy away.

 

As some have said it was lightweight but it wasn't made for Hearts fans, who know a good deal of the story already, and it fits nicely into a dreech Monday evening winter slot and gives enough information and entertainment for any neutrals watching. 

 

Like all these types of shows they are looking for a character/emotional leader like Gary Locke who will bleed for the organisation even if asked to clean the loos. A wee bit of serious emotional stuff like the McCraes and general behind the scenes nonsense, shadowing those who have to do some of the more mundane things that lets us all enjoy our club and games days in particular.

 

I suspect it might warm up as it heads towards the end of the season and the shenannigans regards Covid etc. However not sure how much access the BBC would have had during lockdown. 


Again though, the pitch at Tynecastle has been a joke. Nobody explains that or is pushed to explain it. It’s just ‘you have a go if you think you can do better’.

 

I mean, I’m assuming the groundsman isn’t doing the job for free.

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3 hours ago, i8hibsh said:

Why are people expecting match highlights and more about our on field woes at the time? The title of the program surely must give it away......INSIDE Tynecastle.

 

Where is the field if it's not inside Tynecastle? :whistling:

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Stendel is history .... he was always the wrong person regardless of timing! Why? Far too inexperienced and no management experience at all at a club as big as Hearts. Time will tell but I think managing Hearts was the peak of his careeer!

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4 hours ago, i8hibsh said:

Why are people expecting match highlights and more about our on field woes at the time? The title of the program surely must give it away......INSIDE Tynecastle.

I expect you had hoped for more focus on face painting 

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Felt really sorry for Craig Levein. i know he wasn't successful but he dearly loves Hearts and cares. Not so for the useless McPhee - he looked a complete waste of time. Gary Locke came across well - and I really liked the groundsman

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57 minutes ago, Heres Rixxy said:

 

Where is the field if it's not inside Tynecastle? :whistling:

 

 

The field is outside.

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8 minutes ago, robroy1874 said:

Felt really sorry for Craig Levein. i know he wasn't successful but he dearly loves Hearts and cares. Not so for the useless McPhee - he looked a complete waste of time. Gary Locke came across well - and I really liked the groundsman


Embarrassing the way people on here tried to defend McPhee (mainly by pretending he had mythical talents which we hadn’t quite tapped into). Was shown up as an imposter straight away by the Huns

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7 minutes ago, i8hibsh said:

 

 

The field is outside.

 

Where do you imagine someone is if they told you they are standing outside Tynecastle? The centre circle?

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23 minutes ago, Heres Rixxy said:

 

Where do you imagine someone is if they told you they are standing outside Tynecastle? The centre circle?

 

 

I undetstand this. But when someone talks about going inside a football club it would mean to me the running of the club.

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26 minutes ago, i8hibsh said:

 

 

I undetstand this. But when someone talks about going inside a football club it would mean to me the running of the club.

 

I know, I am just being facetious :locke:

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I'm just catching up now, it was quite emotional seeing big Craig talk. I've always been a fan of the guy, it broke my heart that things worked out the way they did. I know it went on too long, I know we needed change, but I just never had it in me to turn on him.

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Just finished watching it and it is a pretty superficial view of the works of a football club. It’s not geared up to be a deep journalistic investigation and I’m not expecting much, if any, revelations in the next two episodes. It’s a bit like the Ladybird Book of Football Clubs. 
 

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7 hours ago, Madjambo21 said:

Wonder if the next part will show how Perrera was the best at dodge ball at the club.

 

Still say a half decent keeper and we wouldn't have been bottom 

100% this. As bad as we were, If Zlamal was kept in goal we would have been sitting in 11th when the season was cut short. 

 

Perreira cost us 4 points from 2 games in a row (st Johnstone away then a home game if i remember correct) plus several other points he cost us aling the way.

 

 

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