wavydavy Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 2 hours ago, Disco Ball said: Personally would prefer to watch them flourish and grow in a Hearts Jersey first. We seem to still be accepting that we should move on our talented youngsters ASAP. I am not so sure that it is us as fans or the club that want to move them on but if and when the big clubs come calling then it is very difficult for those young players to ignore them and say they want to stay. They are obviously attracted by the massive money on offer not to mention the higher calibre of football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTT Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 16 minutes ago, wavydavy said: I am not so sure that it is us as fans or the club that want to move them on but if and when the big clubs come calling then it is very difficult for those young players to ignore them and say they want to stay. They are obviously attracted by the massive money on offer not to mention the higher calibre of football. Reserve football isn't a higher calibre. At the end of the day a teenager from the SPFL isn't going to play EPL football till he's 20+. If reserve football was anything to shout about down south lads like Connor Randall, Brandon Barker, Smith-Brown would have ripped this league up. They didn't. Hickey will learn more playing for Hearts getting first team football than playing kiddie on football with 23 year olds still in reserve football with 1 first team appearance between like 5 of them. If Hickey gives us 100 games, he'll get the move he wants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ToqueJambo Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 44 minutes ago, TheBigO said: That's how I see it too. Its funny how everyone's first thought is market value these days. I do it too, but try not to! The excitement is seeing the player in maroon for me. And even then, when they leave, the pride in seeing one of our lads do well. I try not to think of the dosh side of things. It's not why I love football! This is where I am. My expectations are very low when it comes to getting fees for players. 1-3m or so is nice but won't change our fortunes that much. If we could get another Craig Gordon sized fee however, with our current finances and an owner willing to invest in the team, with the right manager and recruitment we could mount a challenge in the league and cups over 2 or 3 years. The problem is we'd have to significantly raise our wages which in the long term would be unsustainable unless we somehow did well in Europe on a. consistent basis. I'd love to ask someone like McPhee or Levein if they were handed 10m transfer fee to put into the playing side how they'd invest it to mount a real challenge while still making us sustainable long term. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Slim Stylee Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 6 hours ago, indianajones said: Kickback is a scary place sometimes. Hickeys had an excellent start. Hopefully he can keep developing as he is and we can keep him during this time! I gave up on using JKB as a reliable barometer of youth player potential when a poster compared the then young Lee Wallace to Paolo Maldini.😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwidoug Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 Having been delighted to learn that Irving is a big Jambo, does anyone have any info on Aaron's back story? Is he an Edinburgh boy? Is he a Jambo? How long has he bern with us? Etc. Etc. All contributions welcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambotony Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 1 hour ago, Kiwidoug said: Having been delighted to learn that Irving is a big Jambo, does anyone have any info on Aaron's back story? Is he an Edinburgh boy? Is he a Jambo? How long has he bern with us? Etc. Etc. All contributions welcome. Think we got him from Celtic a year or two ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnking123 Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 Hickey started with us, moved to Celtic and came back again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarmerTweedy Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 (edited) 18 hours ago, Heartsofgold said: Exactly what was wrong with the statement you replied too. This is exactly what happened. Rangers were liquidated and the GFA/SFL bent over backwards while taking the blue boaby up their respective shitboxes to admit them back into the professional league. They broke all their own rules to allow Rangers back into professional football. That's not what happened! There was no 'allowing Rangers back' into anything, instead they allowed Sevco Scotland into the bottom professional league, and then allowed them to change their name to Rangers and agreed to pretend that they actually were the old Rangers, even though they're clearly a different one, that all the supporters of the old Rangers (including a number of posters on here!) have chosen to support in the absence of their old club. Edit: But that's all off-topic. Back to Hickey... Edited August 20, 2019 by FarmerTweedy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarmerTweedy Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 11 hours ago, TheBigO said: That's how I see it too. Its funny how everyone's first thought is market value these days. I do it too, but try not to! The excitement is seeing the player in maroon for me. And even then, when they leave, the pride in seeing one of our lads do well. I try not to think of the dosh side of things. It's not why I love football! To be fair, when you see fairly ordinary players moving in the EPL for transfer fees in excess of the cost of our new main stand, it's sometimes hard not to think about the money we could potentially get, and what we could do with it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigO Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 1 hour ago, FarmerTweedy said: To be fair, when you see fairly ordinary players moving in the EPL for transfer fees in excess of the cost of our new main stand, it's sometimes hard not to think about the money we could potentially get, and what we could do with it! Oh yeah I know, and it makes more sense that fans of a team like ours in a league like ours would think in this way, I more meant that in general it seems to be the first thing said about every player these days. Oh he'll be worth a fortune, or we need to get him tied down to get max value, all that sort of stuff. All I'm saying is, while appreciating that, and dreaming of what £20 million would do for us, my personal first thought is more along the lines of, let's get him on a long deal cos I want to see him play for us for ages!!!! I'm an old innocent though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big man Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 A bit shocked he never got called up for the u21’s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramrod Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 Anyone know how long his contract has to go ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboveg Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 Just now, ramrod said: Anyone know how long his contract has to go ? I was told last week he's going back ti Celtic at the end of the season. I was shot down in flames for suggesting it. I've asked how long his contract is but nobody knows Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboveg Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 I heard last week he's going back to Celtic end of the season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dallas Green Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 1 minute ago, jamboveg said: I heard last week he's going back to Celtic end of the season I heard you talk shite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haringshairband Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, jamboveg said: I heard last week he's going back to Celtic end of the season Did a Celtic fan tell you this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clerry Jambo Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 4 minutes ago, jamboveg said: I was told last week he's going back ti Celtic at the end of the season. I was shot down in flames for suggesting it. I've asked how long his contract is but nobody knows Fair enough if the scum pay what Hearts want Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramrod Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, jamboveg said: I was told last week he's going back ti Celtic at the end of the season. I was shot down in flames for suggesting it. I've asked how long his contract is but nobody knows I would have thought if this was the case we would have offered him a new contract and that would have been in the public domain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboveg Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, Clerry Jambo said: Fair enough if the scum pay what Hearts want Because of his age it will be a small fee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboveg Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 5 minutes ago, Dallas Green said: I heard you talk shite. Cool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboveg Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 4 minutes ago, Haringshairband said: Did a Celtic fan tell you this? No it was from another Heart of Midlothian supporter. I mentioned on here a few says ago but liked it said it was dismissed. I really hope its not true as Hickey looks like he has tons of potential Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cocobeab Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 Needless to say I’d be hugely disappointed if that transpires. Thought those days might have gone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramrod Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 Sure he signed a deal with other youngsters in 2018 , if that was a 2 year deal , he would be out of contract at the end of the season . We would only get a development fee ? Guessing. Hopefully we are trying to extend his contract and can only hope his parent see his best interest developing at a Hearts . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manny1874 Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 If his next move turns out to be Celtic then he's selling himself well short of his abilities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loveofthegame Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 How longs his contract? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 22 minutes ago, jamboveg said: I heard last week he's going back to Celtic end of the season he’s got a 3 year contract Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cocobeab Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 (edited) CL ’The Tierney money will be fine Mr Lawell, failing that I can give you the number for a cracking left back name of Oshinawa.... Edited August 20, 2019 by cocobeab Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Famous 1874 Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 No chance will we entertain business with Celtic for Hickey. ****ing hope not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramrod Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 4 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said: he’s got a 3 year contract Signed in 2018? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobNox Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 On 19/08/2019 at 21:54, FarmerTweedy said: It's not just about, or even mainly about in fact, the money these guys could make us, it's primarily about the potentially transformative effect these guys could have on our team. If (and it's a bloody huge if!) in about two or three years from now, we had about four or five of these guys in our first team together, and all reaching the sort of levels that they've so far shown potential for, we might see a very different overall standard of performances from anything we've seen in many, many years. Like I say, huge if though! In an ideal world, we would get 2-3 good seasons out of a player who was better than Scottish Premiership standard, then get a good transfer fee and sell on clause when they eventually move on to better things. If we can get a conveyor belt of talent coming through then there's no reason why we couldn't have 4 or 5 exceptional youngster in the team at any one time. The problem is being able to hold onto the players long enough while also getting a decent fee when they move on. If they don't sign contract extensions, we run the risk of them walking for nothing other than a development fee, like Paterson and Walker. There's also a danger that if we develop a reputation for developing top class youngsters, that bigger clubs are going to be sniffing about trying to poach our players before they even make it to being first team regulars. Whatever happened to the lad Marc Leonard who was being touted as a real prospect before jumping ship to Brighton as soon as he turned 16? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, ramrod said: Signed in 2018? So when is it up? June 2021? We won’t deal nicely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboveg Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 8 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said: he’s got a 3 year contract Thats good news then! I've searched but couldn't find anything on it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUTOL Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 5 minutes ago, cocobeab said: CL ’The Tierney money will be fine Mr Lawell, failing that I can give you the number for a cracking left back name of Oshinawa.... They were interested in him before we signed him... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboveg Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 Just now, kingantti1874 said: So when is it up? June 2021? We won’t deal nicely. I hope not. I would even try and get him tied down to a 4/5 year deal asap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, jamboveg said: I hope not. I would even try and get him tied down to a 4/5 year deal asap agreed.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Turn Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 £60million or GTF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 23 hours ago, OTT said: Reserve football isn't a higher calibre. At the end of the day a teenager from the SPFL isn't going to play EPL football till he's 20+. If reserve football was anything to shout about down south lads like Connor Randall, Brandon Barker, Smith-Brown would have ripped this league up. They didn't. Hickey will learn more playing for Hearts getting first team football than playing kiddie on football with 23 year olds still in reserve football with 1 first team appearance between like 5 of them. If Hickey gives us 100 games, he'll get the move he wants. Definitely, it’s why they wanted to loan him back to us and why we are getting their new Japanese signing for a year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwidoug Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 I know this will annoy some on here but I heard he's longing to play for Hibs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwidoug Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 If Whyte proves to be outstanding I wonder if levein will consider playing both by having one in the midfield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hungry hippo Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 10 minutes ago, Kiwidoug said: If Whyte proves to be outstanding I wonder if levein will consider playing both by having one in the midfield. White is a winger turned full back so could definitely play further forward if required. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livi Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 14 minutes ago, Kiwidoug said: If Whyte proves to be outstanding I wonder if levein will consider playing both by having one in the midfield. He did that on Friday at Motherwell when Whyte came on. He nearly scored near the end too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr ewing Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 58 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said: So when is it up? June 2021? We won’t deal nicely. Are you sure? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
...a bit disco Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 1 hour ago, Haringshairband said: Did a Celtic fan tell you this? That dug pumping Hibby dick Coonster is broadcasting this shite on Twitter. So aye, a Celtic Reserves fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwidoug Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 That's good to know about Whyte because there must be a good chance that he will really prove himself as a player once he gets a few more hours on the park under his belt. Fingers crossed that this is a very strong squad. Certainly looking that way although as everyone says, would be great if a Ford/Robbo was in there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimosavi Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 7 hours ago, ...a bit disco said: That dug pumping Hibby dick Coonster is broadcasting this shite on Twitter. So aye, a Celtic Reserves fan. The Groomster as i like to call him Absolutey obsessed with the Big Team 24 hours of everyday of his life 19th May 2012 destroyed this guy. I've seen a few Hibs fans take 2012 badly.....but this guy. Wow this guy took it the worst out of the lot of them. He's about 50 too, grown up children the lot. Its the same 14 pals who retweet his pish day in day out. No doubt his kids have left home and his Mrs is off having an affair with a Hearts fan somewhere The epiphany of a middle aged man going through a mid life crisis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 8 hours ago, livi said: He did that on Friday at Motherwell when Whyte came on. He nearly scored near the end too. Looked every bit a left back when he had his chance in their box to score after dribbling it around! Maybe just rust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livi Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 31 minutes ago, kila said: Looked every bit a left back when he had his chance in their box to score after dribbling it around! Maybe just rust. Yeh a good run into the box but looked lost when he got there and the ball seemed to get stuck under his feet. The amount of rain that fell it could have been rust. 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
...a bit disco Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 2 hours ago, kimosavi said: The Groomster as i like to call him Absolutey obsessed with the Big Team 24 hours of everyday of his life 19th May 2012 destroyed this guy. I've seen a few Hibs fans take 2012 badly.....but this guy. Wow this guy took it the worst out of the lot of them. He's about 50 too, grown up children the lot. Its the same 14 pals who retweet his pish day in day out. No doubt his kids have left home and his Mrs is off having an affair with a Hearts fan somewhere The epiphany of a middle aged man going through a mid life crisis Nailed it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XXX Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 11 minutes ago, Rave MacPherson said: https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/latest-hearts-news/scotland-under-19-call-up-for-hearts-defender-aaron-hickey-1-4988166 A nice wee booster for his confidence, not that he seems to need it He should be in the main squad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 On 19/08/2019 at 23:28, OTT said: Reserve football isn't a higher calibre. At the end of the day a teenager from the SPFL isn't going to play EPL football till he's 20+. If reserve football was anything to shout about down south lads like Connor Randall, Brandon Barker, Smith-Brown would have ripped this league up. They didn't. Hickey will learn more playing for Hearts getting first team football than playing kiddie on football with 23 year olds still in reserve football with 1 first team appearance between like 5 of them. If Hickey gives us 100 games, he'll get the move he wants. Spot on. Hickey could read 100 games before he even turns 20, so he has plenty of time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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