Naismith - aims for return against Rangers ( updated )

[Bazzas right boot]

2 hours ago, Forever Hearts said:

32 is getting on a bit for a professional athlete in the top league. 

 

 

Explain this ridiculous comment. 

[TheOak88]

1 hour ago, Fort Vallance said:

I don't get the impression he's the type of person who would just hang around for the money. If it comes to that I think he probably would retire and not take the piss out of the club.

Why did he hang around at Norwich then? Could have mutually terminated his contract and joined Hearts permanently a year earlier, but obvi wanted to squeeze all his wages out of Norwich. 

[Debut 4]

1 minute ago, amadjambo said:

Was this not also the case with other players in the past? I personally don’t buy the “bad luck” argument for our injury woes. I suspect there is a fundamental problem behind most of our injuries. Whether that is training, medical staff/physio’s, warm up/warm down routines, etc I don’t know. But there’s hardly a week goes by that we don’t have another injury. Even our last home game, Uche had a tight hamstring and missed out. How many tight hamstrings do we get, and is that really down to luck?

Didn’t notice if Psychedelic got his apology for the post you quote?

 

The know-it-alls rounded on him and very little time later it came out officially about Naismiths delayed return and Souttar’s longer lay off.  

[amadjambo]

1 minute ago, Debut 4 said:

Didn’t notice if Psychedelic got his apology for the post you quote?

 

The know-it-alls rounded on him and very little time later it came out officially about Naismiths delayed return and Souttar’s longer lay off.  

I’ve been taking a break from kickback since the Killie game, so just trying to catch up with the news today. Disappointing, but not exactly surprising to hear Naismith and Souttar may be out longer. No doubt the manager will be able to use this to buy himself more time.

[Lovecraft]

2 hours ago, baron of ness said:

Federer 38, Murray 32, Nadal 33, Djokovic 32, and Naismith 32 aye he's to 

Old to be an athlete. 

 He should be trying to get himself fit to play for us rather than ****ing around playing tennis.

 

We pay his wages FFS.

 

 

Edited October 16, 2019 by Lovecraft

[Forever Hearts]

4 minutes ago, Smith's right boot said:

 

 

Explain this ridiculous comment. 

Ok. 32 is getting on a bit for a professional athlete in the top league. 

[Sherbet]

1 hour ago, Smith's right boot said:

 

 

It's not a top league. 

 

He is a top player in our league, tho. 

 

Boy is the best player outside the of by a distance, he's better than many of the of players to boot as well. 

 

Anyone questioning him signing for us knows **** all about football. 

It's not even a debate. 

 

In your previous guise did you want us to sign Bryson? 

Many posters bleating on here wanted that. 

 

Imagine we never signed Naismith and he signed for Aberdeen or Killie. 

I can imagine the state some of the posters would have got into if that had happened. 

 

 

 

 

 

He is not the best when he cant play

[Bazzas right boot]

Just now, Forever Hearts said:

Ok. 32 is getting on a bit for a professional athlete in the top league. 

 

Why is it getting on a bit for a pro athlete in the top league worthy of a comment? 

Is it an issue, if so explain. 

If not, why did you mention it? 

In regards to Naismith, ofc as he is the subject matter. 

 

Dodging questions like Boris on pmqt. 

😂😂😂😂

 

Can't even explain a comment made by himself.😂😂😂😂😂😂

 

 

 

[Bazzas right boot]

4 minutes ago, Sherbet said:

He is not the best when he cant play

 

Unsure of your point? 

[Forever Hearts]

2 minutes ago, Smith's right boot said:

 

Why is it getting on a bit for a pro athlete in the top league worthy of a comment? 

Is it an issue, if so explain. 

If not, why did you mention it? 

In regards to Naismith, ofc as he is the subject matter. 

 

Dodging questions like Boris on pmqt. 

😂😂😂😂

 

Can't even explain a comment made by himself.😂😂😂😂😂😂

 

 

 

Your failure to grasp even the simplest of comments makes conversing with you pretty much impossible. 

[martoon]

Agree with the international retirement suggestion. Although someone did suggest recently that Naismith is only really chasing cap #50 so perhaps that's coming. 

 

I hope, also, that no one turns against him. It's frustrating as...that he's not fit but that's the reality. At least it appears to be just niggley stuff that's bothering him so there's still a chance we'll get the benefit of him in the team soon. 

 

2-3 weeks, I'd say. 

 

 

[GinRummy]

3 minutes ago, Smith's right boot said:

 

Unsure of your point? 

 

That’s just not true is it. It just becomes trolling asking people to explain the simplest of things again and again.

[Bazzas right boot]

Just now, Forever Hearts said:

Your failure to grasp even the simplest of comments makes conversing with you pretty much impossible. 

 

 

You're the one posting statements that make no sense. 

 

When asked, you can't even answer or explain further. 

 

32 is getting on a bit for a pro athlete in the top league.... 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[baron of ness]

11 minutes ago, Lovecraft said:

 He should be trying to get himself fit to play for us rather than ****ing around playing tennis.

 

We pay his wages FFS.

 

 

🤣🤣🤣 lol.

[Des Lynam]

12 minutes ago, Smith's right boot said:

 

Why is it getting on a bit for a pro athlete in the top league worthy of a comment? 

Is it an issue, if so explain. 

If not, why did you mention it? 

In regards to Naismith, ofc as he is the subject matter. 

 

Dodging questions like Boris on pmqt. 

😂😂😂😂

 

Can't even explain a comment made by himself.😂😂😂😂😂😂

 

 

 

Because as you get OLDER it becomes harder to recover from INJURIES. 

[Bazzas right boot]

5 minutes ago, GinRummy said:

 

That’s just not true is it. It just becomes trolling asking people to explain the simplest of things again and again.

 

 

It is true. 

 

Should we play him injured? 

We shouldn't have signed him? 

We shouldn't sign old players? 

Only sign players with no injury history? 

 

I have no idea what his point is tbh. 

 

If his point is that a player can't play when he's injured then I agree, but unsure why someone would say that. 

Pretty obvious that is the case. 

[Morgan]

2 minutes ago, Des Lynam said:

Because as you get OLDER it becomes harder to recover from INJURIES. 

In

 

a

 

nut

 

shell.

[GinRummy]

1 minute ago, Smith's right boot said:

 

 

It is true. 

 

Should we play him injured? 

We shouldn't have signed him? 

We shouldn't sign old players? 

Only sign players with no injury history? 

 

I have no idea what his point is tbh. 

 

If his point is that a player can't play when he's injured then I agree, but unsure why someone would say that. 

Pretty obvious that is the case. 

 

Your last paragraph was his point. Not difficult to comprehend. 

[Sherbet]

16 minutes ago, Smith's right boot said:

 

Unsure of your point? 

He is injured so not playing

[Bazzas right boot]

6 minutes ago, Des Lynam said:

Because as you get OLDER it becomes harder to recover from INJURIES. 

 

 

So we shouldn't sign older players in case they get injured? 

 

What age do you recommend as our limit? 

 

I already explained why a player of Naismiths quality and pedigree was out of our reach when he was younger and why we have him now. 

Could say the same for Whelan, maybe even Berra. 

 

What do you suggest to minimise this risk and more to the point why is it relevant? 

 

We seem to be pointing out lots of obvious things today. 

 

Folk get older, recovery times get longer in general. 

Our best player can't be that if injured. 

 

Nuggets of wisdom flying about today. 

[Forever Hearts]

6 minutes ago, Des Lynam said:

Because as you get OLDER it becomes harder to recover from INJURIES. 

I've given up on him. Good luck. 

[hearts00]

The point is we are all beyond frustrated with literally everything to do with the playing side. 
 

Even the guys who are meant to be the solution are part of the problem as they are constantly injured.  
 

I’m tiring of Naismith quite dramatically to be honest and fear the worst about his contribution for the next four years. 

[Bazzas right boot]

2 minutes ago, Sherbet said:

He is injured so not playing

 

Yip, he is that. 

[Thomaso]

Aw well he’ll maybe be fit for the semi.....

[Jodami]

Just now, Cruickshank for Scotland said:

Aw well he’ll maybe be fit for the semi.....

We'll never get a Scottish Cup draw like that last one again... 

[Des Lynam]

3 minutes ago, Smith's right boot said:

 

 

So we shouldn't sign older players in case they get injured? 

 

What age do you recommend as our limit? 

 

I already explained why a player of Naismiths quality and pedigree was out of our reach when he was younger and why we have him now. 

Could say the same for Whelan, maybe even Berra. 

 

What do you suggest to minimise this risk and more to the point why is it relevant? 

 

We seem to be pointing out lots of obvious things today. 

 

Folk get older, recovery times get longer in general. 

Our best player can't be that if injured. 

 

Nuggets of wisdom flying about today. 

Are you in Hamilton today? 

[Morgan]

1 minute ago, Des Lynam said:

Are you in Hamilton today? 

That’s Academical really.

 

 

[Nookie Bear]

8 minutes ago, hearts00 said:

The point is we are all beyond frustrated with literally everything to do with the playing side. 
 

Even the guys who are meant to be the solution are part of the problem as they are constantly injured.  
 

I’m tiring of Naismith quite dramatically to be honest and fear the worst about his contribution for the next four years. 

 

Bit harsh.

 

Perhaps better to say we are tiring of The Naismith Situation.

[Des Lynam]

6 minutes ago, Morgan said:

That’s Academical really.

 

 

 

[Bull's-eye]

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[jambos are go!]

In his book Dave Mackay says he thinks Hearts may have sold him to Spurs because he had a persistent foot problem. It never happened again and he went onto to glory and we slowly went downhill and stayed there.

[jambopilms]

So he has been with the club 18 months or so and at least a year of it he has been out. 4 year deal seems a joke.

Considering he is the only player we have that is capable of making a difference to our form, then we are done.

Levein will be gone before Naismith plays again.

[Bazzas right boot]

16 minutes ago, Des Lynam said:

Are you in Hamilton today? 

 

Are you? 😂

 

Nah, it's just this thread. The comments and remarks are of the scale. 

 

Don't you agree... 😉? 

[GorgieRules22]

If he’s not making this weekend after being touch and go for the last 6 weeks I’m beginning to think we’ve seen the last of him to be honest.....guys never gonae get himself fit again to a level to play a run of games. There might come the point in the future that the club might have to sit down with him and look at the four year deal we gave him.

[Russ1977]

He started off with a tight hamstring and was rested as a precaution and has ended up spending as much time out as someone who’s properly pulled their hamstring. 

[TheOak88]

Has barely kicked a ball for us in the past 6 months. Said before we will be lucky if we get 15 appearances out of him all season. 

[TheOak88]

7 minutes ago, Russ1977 said:

He started off with a tight hamstring and was rested as a precaution and has ended up spending as much time out as someone who’s properly pulled their hamstring. 

It’s almost as if our medical staff are pretty clueless when it comes to injuries. 

 

[StevenNaismith]

Every time he does a sustained period of sprinting at training he goes tight. Not looking good for his future unless they can get him an operation to sort it.

[queensferryjambo]

40 minutes ago, Noah Claypole said:

0131 221 9999

 

 

[skinnybob72]

Maybe Naismith (and Walker...) could be broken up for spare parts to help fix the rest of the squad?

[Jodami]

I am beginning to wonder if the curse of the 4 year deal has replaced the curse of the 3 year deal. As well as Naismith there is the frankly worrying case of Loic Damour. Still not sure what his position is (no specialist defensive midfielder could lose the ball in so many dangerous positions or be so rash in the challenge) and hard to discern what particular talents it is he possess. I hope I am proved 100% wrong but at the moment I can see the bushel but the light is only flickering. 

[Dusk_Till_Dawn]

1 minute ago, Jodami said:

I am beginning to wonder if the curse of the 4 year deal has replaced the curse of the 3 year deal. As well as Naismith there is the frankly worrying case of Loic Damour. Still not sure what his position is (no specialist defensive midfielder could lose the ball in so many dangerous positions or be so rash in the challenge) and hard to discern what particular talents it is he possess. I hope I am proved 100% wrong but at the moment I can see the bushel but the light is only flickering. 

 

He’ll be hopeless on the basis that our recruitment department found him. 

[Ricardo Shillyshally]

Just now, Jodami said:

I am beginning to wonder if the curse of the 4 year deal has replaced the curse of the 3 year deal. As well as Naismith there is the frankly worrying case of Loic Damour. Still not sure what his position is (no specialist defensive midfielder could lose the ball in so many dangerous positions or be so rash in the challenge) and hard to discern what particular talents it is he possess. I hope I am proved 100% wrong but at the moment I can see the bushel but the light is only flickering. 

Good post.

 

As for Naismith, even if be does ever make it back onto the park, his fitness levels will be well off required. He's not getting any younger and I fear we've seen the best of him

[Dusk_Till_Dawn]

1 minute ago, Ricardo Shillyshally said:

Good post.

 

As for Naismith, even if be does ever make it back onto the park, his fitness levels will be well off required. He's not getting any younger and I fear we've seen the best of him

 

Assuming that his medical was clear, I’ve no problem with us signing him. But anyone who says a four year deal made sense is either thick or, again, an apologist for a very poor decision

[tolcross lad]

8 minutes ago, Jodami said:

I am beginning to wonder if the curse of the 4 year deal has replaced the curse of the 3 year deal. As well as Naismith there is the frankly worrying case of Loic Damour. Still not sure what his position is (no specialist defensive midfielder could lose the ball in so many dangerous positions or be so rash in the challenge) and hard to discern what particular talents it is he possess. I hope I am proved 100% wrong but at the moment I can see the bushel but the light is only flickering. 

 

Errors of judgement everywhere in recruitment and recruitment strategy.I find it all very worrying.

[Dusk_Till_Dawn]

2 minutes ago, tolcross lad said:

 

Errors of judgement everywhere in recruitment and recruitment strategy.I find it all very worrying.

 

Don’t worry mate, nothing to see here.

[Bazzas right boot]

7 minutes ago, Dusk_Till_Dawn said:

 

Assuming that his medical was clear, I’ve no problem with us signing him. But anyone who says a four year deal made sense is either thick or, again, an apologist for a very poor decision

 

 

I could imagine your reaction if we didn't sign Naismith because the length of the deal could not be agreed. 

 

You'd need to be peeled of the ceiling. 

 

You'd have been on here ripping everything apart and questioning the clubs ambition. 

 

Must be great being you. 

 

Club  signs quality player - ends up Injured, gets to call folk thick that defend decision and rip Into the club. 

 

Club does not sign said player - gets to call folk thick that would defend decision , rips into the club.

 

 

 

 

[Newton51]

I can understand the 4 year deal for naisy and will prob include coaching in the future. Similar to hibs 6 year deals for gray and macgregor. 
 

damour tho 🤔

[Robbo-Jambo]

I am totally astonished the guy is not embarrassed by his serial lying about these injuries, especially the Souttar injury/operation fiasco. 

 

I can also tell you about the "players are behind him " nonsense. 

 

To the press they are, but most of them are as sick of him as the fans are. 

 

This is from the horses mouth of one of the most respected members of the first team. 

 

And its not Naismith who manipulated a 4 year deal out of our clown of a manager. 

 

I  really like Naismith and have no hard feelings about the way he got his deal even after failing to play under 90 mins of football IIRC in the year 2019 which is coming to an end very soon. 

 

 

[Robbo-Jambo]

5 minutes ago, Smith's right boot said:

 

 

I could imagine your reaction if we didn't sign Naismith because the length of the deal could not be agreed. 

 

You'd need to be peeled of the ceiling. 

 

You'd have been on here ripping everything apart and questioning the clubs ambition. 

 

Must be great being you. 

 

Club  signs quality player - ends up Injured, gets to call folk thick that defend decision and rip Into the club. 

 

Club does not sign said player - gets to call folk thick that would defend decision , rips into the club.

 

 

 

 

He should never have got a 4 year deal mate. 

 

Look how much football he has played this year. 

 

The first year of that 4 year deal!!. 

 

It's only going to get worse as he gets older as well. 😕