Bindy Badgy Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 The fact that people will vote for anyone with a rod rosette is in itself worrying. Trump got the second highest number of votes of any presidential candidate. That people will blindly vote for anyone of a certain party, irrespective of how bad that person is, highlights massive issues with the education system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovecraft Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, Stokesy said: The fact that people will vote for anyone with a rod rosette is in itself worrying. Trump got the second highest number of votes of any presidential candidate. That people will blindly vote for anyone of a certain party, irrespective of how bad that person is, highlights massive issues with the education system. And Party politics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 14 minutes ago, Lovecraft said: And Party politics. Effectively just a two party system at that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Striker Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 13 minutes ago, Jambo-Jimbo said: Indeed, I think this 72 million is a red-herring, simply because by far the vast majority of people would have I believe, voted Republican before they voted for Donald Trump, Donald Duck could have stood for the Republicans against Joe Biden and would have still got many many millions of votes. Like you say the real number of Trump roasters are relatively small in number compared to the Republican voter base, and once Trump is no longer relevant they'll slither off back to their flat earth society conventions, until that is, another nutjob loser comes along to fly the conspiracy fruitloaf's banner. Let's hope so. It's even possible that some of the Trump militia don't actually bother to vote at all - they're just looking for some "action", similar to the dangerous jackboot thugs who used to turn up at BNP marches. It's an unfortunate consequence of democracy that a charismatic leader with oddball/dangerous views seems to attract folk who would otherwise show little or no interest in the democratic process. Farage is an example too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobboM Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 44 minutes ago, Jambo-Jimbo said: Indeed, I think this 72 million is a red-herring, simply because by far the vast majority of people would have I believe, voted Republican before they voted for Donald Trump, Donald Duck could have stood for the Republicans against Joe Biden and would have still got many many millions of votes. Like you say the real number of Trump roasters are relatively small in number compared to the Republican voter base, and once Trump is no longer relevant they'll slither off back to their flat earth society conventions, until that is, another nutjob loser comes along to fly the conspiracy fruitloaf's banner. I'm not convinced. The 73m is nearly 12m MORE than he got last time. Many of those who voted for him last time will have switched, not voted or expired meaning in terms of brand new Trump supporters the numbers will be even greater. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpie Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 28 minutes ago, Lone Striker said: Let's hope so. It's even possible that some of the Trump militia don't actually bother to vote at all - they're just looking for some "action", similar to the dangerous jackboot thugs who used to turn up at BNP marches. It's an unfortunate consequence of democracy that a charismatic leader with oddball/dangerous views seems to attract folk who would otherwise show little or no interest in the democratic process. Farage is an example too. I watched the first part of a new series on TV last night. Rise of the Nazis, its interesting how the descriptions of the character and the descriptions in your post are so similar to those of the same in the series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 10 minutes ago, RobboM said: I'm not convinced. The 73m is nearly 12m MORE than he got last time. Many of those who voted for him last time will have switched, not voted or expired meaning in terms of brand new Trump supporters the numbers will be even greater. Well let's hope you are massively wrong, because the last thing anybody needs is millions more Trump supporting trumpets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 3 hours ago, RobboM said: I don't think this one has been on here before. It's a funny and revealing twitter from Kenyan journalist Patrick Gathara reporting on US election like Americans report on other elections https://boingboing.net/2020/11/08/kenyan-journalist-reports-on-us-election-like-americans-report-on-other-elections.html and a wee taster from a recent tweet Superb stuff. Thanks for posting that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 He just can't help himself. Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump Another Vaccine just announced. This time by Moderna, 95% effective. For those great “historians”, please remember that these great discoveries, which will end the China Plague, all took place on my watch! And over 250,000 deaths from the 'China Plague' have also taken place on your watch, something which the "historians" and everyone else will also remember. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterion Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 19 minutes ago, weehammy said: The fact that he’s backed by the likes of Ted Cruz, whose father he mocked during the 2016 campaign, tells you all you need to know about GOP cynicism and opportunism. Missed out "cowardice" Cruz just seems to be absolutely spineless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpie Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 1 hour ago, weehammy said: The fact that he’s backed by the likes of Ted Cruz, whose father he mocked during the 2016 campaign, tells you all you need to know about GOP cynicism and opportunism. I am sure Pence, Cruz and other prospective Republican possible candidates for a 2024 run and totally enamored with the fact that they will have to enter preliminaries with Trump. All they have to do is what he done with Biden, age, age, age, he will be Bidens age as of now by 2024. Their Democrat opponent will be the now four year apprentice a woman of color, experience in the White House, and a vitriolic tongue when needed in debate. The old saying be careful what you wish for appropriate here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maple Leaf Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 Another batch of spurious Republican lawsuits withdrawn today in several states. Combined with the 9 that were withdrawn or kicked out of court on Friday, their legal strategy for a coup is not going so well. How long before il Duce tries to get the SCOTUS involved? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 24 minutes ago, Maple Leaf said: Another batch of spurious Republican lawsuits withdrawn today in several states. Combined with the 9 that were withdrawn or kicked out of court on Friday, their legal strategy for a coup is not going so well. How long before il Duce tries to get the SCOTUS involved? But can he get them involved, when every case thus far is being flung out at the first hurdle and in multiple courts & in multiple states? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maple Leaf Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 4 minutes ago, Jambo-Jimbo said: But can he get them involved, when every case thus far is being flung out at the first hurdle and in multiple courts & in multiple states? Yes, good question. Apparently, one can't just "take" a case to the SCOTUS, but I don't know any more than that. Nevertheless, Trump has astonished us repeatedly in the last four years with stuff he's done or attempted to do. He's got a couple of months left to astonish us again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 1 minute ago, Maple Leaf said: Yes, good question. Apparently, one can't just "take" a case to the SCOTUS, but I don't know any more than that. Nevertheless, Trump has astonished us repeatedly in the last four years with stuff he's done or attempted to do. He's got a couple of months left to astonish us again. Just keep these nuclear codes away from the clown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 18 minutes ago, Maple Leaf said: Yes, good question. Apparently, one can't just "take" a case to the SCOTUS, but I don't know any more than that. Nevertheless, Trump has astonished us repeatedly in the last four years with stuff he's done or attempted to do. He's got a couple of months left to astonish us again. Indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 65 days until the Inauguration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 16 minutes ago, The Real Maroonblood said: Just keep these nuclear codes away from the clown. The adults in the room changed the codes months ago, the new codes are MAGA, BIDEN & OBAMA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Jambo-Jimbo said: The adults in the room changed the codes months ago, the new codes are MAGA, BIDEN & OBAMA. They added a new failsafe question - "Did you lose the presidential election in a fair and just way?". There's no way he's going to choose Yes, even if he wants to destroy us all. Edited November 16, 2020 by redjambo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, Jambo-Jimbo said: The adults in the room changed the codes months ago, the new codes are MAGA, BIDEN & OBAMA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpie Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Maple Leaf said: Another batch of spurious Republican lawsuits withdrawn today in several states. Combined with the 9 that were withdrawn or kicked out of court on Friday, their legal strategy for a coup is not going so well. How long before il Duce tries to get the SCOTUS involved? It could be a while I think he would have to get another Court to come to a decision he doesn't like and then he can apply to the Supreme Court. They then make the decision whether they want to hear his appeal. It may work out for him with his selected Supreme Court, but I doubt any of them would risk their legacy by opting to listen to a worthless case. To put it mildly he is Supremely screwed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Striker Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 He must be the most shameless and brazen lying leader the world has seen (so far) this century. He's gone from "It's a hoax" to "One day it will just disappear" to "All we're getting from the fake media is Covid, Covid, Covid" ....... and now "Vaccines happening on my watch". An unfolding tragedy for honesty and democracy, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 44 minutes ago, redjambo said: They added a new failsafe question - "Did you lose the presidential election in a fair and just way?". There's no way he's going to choose Yes, even if he wants to destroy us all. So we're safe afterall then. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Lone Striker said: He must be the most shameless and brazen lying leader the world has seen (so far) this century. He's gone from "It's a hoax" to "One day it will just disappear" to "All we're getting from the fake media is Covid, Covid, Covid" ....... and now "Vaccines happening on my watch". An unfolding tragedy for honesty and democracy, I never thought it possible to enjoy a news channel but CNN is quality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maple Leaf Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 12 minutes ago, The Real Maroonblood said: I never thought it possible to enjoy a news channel but CNN is quality. As long as you don't mind the incessant advertisements for medicinal cures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 6 minutes ago, Maple Leaf said: As long as you don't mind the incessant advertisements for medicinal cures. The adverts are certainly different from what I’m used to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovecraft Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 28 minutes ago, The Real Maroonblood said: The adverts are certainly different from what I’m used to. "If you take X medicine for skin problems, please be aware that it may cause skin problems. And rectal hemorrhaging." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Lovecraft said: "If you take X medicine for skin problems, please be aware that it may cause skin problems. And rectal hemorrhaging." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovecraft Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 1 hour ago, The Real Maroonblood said: Possibly rectal skin problems. 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pagey Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 4 hours ago, Maple Leaf said: As long as you don't mind the incessant advertisements for medicinal cures. Don’t take this drug if you are allergic to this drug... profound Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpie Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 Georgias Republican Secretary of State is reported to have stated that Lindsey Graham asked him to destroy legal votes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Boy Named Crow Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 10 minutes ago, Sharpie said: Georgias Republican Secretary of State is reported to have stated that Lindsey Graham asked him to destroy legal votes. Did he say whether or not he obliged? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpie Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, A Boy Named Crow said: Did he say whether or not he obliged? I believe he said he didn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maple Leaf Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 19 minutes ago, Sharpie said: Georgias Republican Secretary of State is reported to have stated that Lindsey Graham asked him to destroy legal votes. Lindsey Graham, senator for South Carolina, getting involved in Georgia politics. He's already donated one million dollars to the senate run-off in Georgia, and now he's trying to influence the vote count in Georgia. He's a sleazy little rat. The man in charge of the Georgia recount is a die-hard Republican, who has openly declared that he is disappointed with the Democratic victory, but has stated that he will follow the legal process. If only the elected Republicans had the same morality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Boy Named Crow Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 24 minutes ago, Sharpie said: I believe he said he didn't. Oh, I'd love it to be demonstrably true. Could help with the run off campaigning. In fact, if it is true, can LG get hooked from the Senate? That'd be nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Z Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 This is where the US is now. South Dakota ER nurse recalls how dying coronavirus patients spend last minutes insisting virus isn't real "Their last dying words are, 'This can't be happening. It's not real,'" Doering recalled. In some cases, patients even insist they have the flu or lung cancer to avoid acknowledging the coronavirus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Boy Named Crow Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 41 minutes ago, Justin Z said: This is where the US is now. South Dakota ER nurse recalls how dying coronavirus patients spend last minutes insisting virus isn't real "Their last dying words are, 'This can't be happening. It's not real,'" Doering recalled. In some cases, patients even insist they have the flu or lung cancer to avoid acknowledging the coronavirus. It's terrifying to watch. There's a huge cohort of utterly brainwashed fanatics, many of whom are armed to the teeth, hanging on every utterance of a narcissistic man-child. How does this not end in utter carnage? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 1 hour ago, A Boy Named Crow said: It's terrifying to watch. There's a huge cohort of utterly brainwashed fanatics, many of whom are armed to the teeth, hanging on every utterance of a narcissistic man-child. How does this not end in utter carnage? The brainwashed fanatics also don't trust the MSM, so rely on their news from alternative news sources such as facebook, twitter, word of mouth, conspiracy websites and of course Trump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 6 hours ago, Maple Leaf said: Lindsey Graham, senator for South Carolina, getting involved in Georgia politics. He's already donated one million dollars to the senate run-off in Georgia, and now he's trying to influence the vote count in Georgia. He's a sleazy little rat. The man in charge of the Georgia recount is a die-hard Republican, who has openly declared that he is disappointed with the Democratic victory, but has stated that he will follow the legal process. If only the elected Republicans had the same morality. https://edition.cnn.com/2020/11/16/politics/georgia-secretary-of-state-lindsey-graham-ballots-cnntv/index.html Graham must be wanting the cell next to his bum chum Trump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 Trump's been asking if he can bomb Iran. No, seriously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 Trump wanted to bomb Iranian nuclear sites last week. https://news.sky.com/story/donald-trump-mulled-an-attack-on-iran-nuclear-site-last-week-but-ended-up-holding-off-official-says-12134403 Wouldn't put it past him to do something like this just for spite, start a war with Iran and let the next administration try and clear up the mess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobboM Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 2 hours ago, Jambo-Jimbo said: The brainwashed fanatics also don't trust the MSM, so rely on their news from alternative news sources such as facebook, twitter, word of mouth, conspiracy websites and of course Trump. Loving this Kenyan perspective on US's madness Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 1 hour ago, RobboM said: Loving this Kenyan perspective on US's madness The irony will probably be completely lost on the trumpet hordes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I P Knightley Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 4 hours ago, RobboM said: Loving this Kenyan perspective on US's madness On 16/11/2020 at 11:11, RobboM said: I don't think this one has been on here before. It's a funny and revealing twitter from Kenyan journalist Patrick Gathara reporting on US election like Americans report on other elections https://boingboing.net/2020/11/08/kenyan-journalist-reports-on-us-election-like-americans-report-on-other-elections.html and a wee taster from a recent tweet President Obama's homeland properly taking the piss on this one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Des Lynam Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 2 hours ago, Barack said: Giuliani has filed to.appear in Court in PA, today. Last time he was in a Federal Court, was 1992. This'll be Borat 3-type shit. Stream? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Des Lynam Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 9 hours ago, Jambo-Jimbo said: https://edition.cnn.com/2020/11/16/politics/georgia-secretary-of-state-lindsey-graham-ballots-cnntv/index.html Graham must be wanting the cell next to his bum chum Trump. Don’t mind those Donald, those just my little ladybugs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Gordons Gloves Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 Trump knows he has lost, the Republicans know he has lost but with the Georgia senate run off coming up, they all need to do as much as possible to drive the republican vote there so they can maintain the senate. Additionally, Trump needs this time to do as much damage as he can so that when Biden eventually takes over, the country is so screwed from Covid that the economy finally collapses and Biden has no chance of containing Covid. Incidentally, Covid cases in MN are up to nearly 8000 a day from 3400 a day last week, a state with the same pop as Scotland and a governor who has been trying to contain it but is being pushed back on by the republicans on everything. We're surrounded by 4 of the worst states in the US for cases right now - Wisconsin, Iowa and the 2 Dakotas, meanwhile in SD, Kristi Noem, who is a massive Trumper, refuses to put any restrictions in place putting it on individuals to make the choices. Biden is going to inherit an absolute shit show - worse than it ever worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I P Knightley Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Des Lynam said: Stream? You're getting mixed up between Giuliani with the 'teenage' reporter and Trump in the Moscow hotel room. At best, I'd imagine Giuliani could manage a dribble over his knuckles while Trump's companions, allegedly, had a stream. Edited November 17, 2020 by I P Knightley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankblack Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 Watching Channel 4 news just now. They said that Trump was actively trying to order a strike on key targets in Iran but had to be persuaded against it by his advisers. This man has access to the red button until 20th January. God help us all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 Giuliani is asking for $20,000 a day for representing Trump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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