doddsyJR9 Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 Just now, Watt-Zeefuik said: Aye, and it said "work makes freedom" over Auschwitz, what's so bad about that? Snp voter aye. Hates 'Make America Great Again', thought so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watt-Zeefuik Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 1 minute ago, doddsyJR9 said: Snp voter aye. Hates 'Make America Great Again', thought so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddsyJR9 Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 Gotcha. Anti British Anti America Anti Trump - Pro Snp, Pro Left, Pro EU Gotcha. Keep twirling yer beads, sorry pearls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watt-Zeefuik Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 Just now, doddsyJR9 said: Gotcha. Anti British Anti America Anti Trump - Pro Snp, Pro Left, Pro EU Gotcha. Keep twirling yer beads, sorry pearls. My dear ass, in order to be an SNP voter, I would have to be a UK citizen. I would call you a troll but you're so bad at it that it feels like kicking a smurf. It might be momentarily satisfying but it's so easy it just feels gratuitous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddsyJR9 Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 Just now, Watt-Zeefuik said: My dear ass, in order to be an SNP voter, I would have to be a UK citizen. I would call you a troll but you're so bad at it that it feels like kicking a smurf. It might be momentarily satisfying but it's so easy it just feels gratuitous. Pull the other one. Its got bells on it. Yeah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddsyJR9 Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 Gotcha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 9 minutes ago, Watt-Zeefuik said: Mate, I made a throwaway comment as a joke in response to Maple Leaf. Did that really bother you that much? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maple Leaf Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 2 hours ago, doddsyJR9 said: Doesn't that say more about you than it does him, and gives voting to the plebs a bad reputation? What if Gary Glitter was the opposite runner? It looks like there is no chance of a sensible discussion from you. The person running against Trump will be a Democrat. Probably Biden, possibly someone else. Whoever it is will be a much better President than Trump. Are you aware that a jury declared that Trump had raped a woman? Are you aware that Trump has admitted to sexually assaulting numerous women? Are you aware that Trump has given Putin the OK to attack any NATO country that doesn't spend 2% of its GDP on military spending, including the UK? The "MAGA" stuff is merely populist hyperbole that no-one should take seriously. Are you aware that he had four years to do it and failed? If you're inclined to respond with another inane Gary Glitter comment, please reread my first sentence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il Duce McTarkin Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 We need more Gary Glitter comments imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFK-1 Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 5 hours ago, doddsyJR9 said: No I can't 'figure it out'. I liked Trump's 'Make America Great Again'. Why is that so hated by haters? While clutching their 'pearls'? Seriously? Well if you insist on being this absurd either wittingly or unwittingly allow me to retort. If you're actually impressed by this total imbecile who gave you a 4 word slogan which is meaningless and is all you can say about him, then you just demonstrated your intellectual depth, or lack of it. Incidentally do you know why they make these short slogans? They try to make something short enough that a parrot could learn and repeat it, or a bird brain. Then you become if anything even dumber by parroting this haters utter shite as if he's hated because he said these 4 words and nothing else, what planet are you on? You're really that dim? You don't know anything about this orange idiot beyond that slogan? He's hated because of 4 words? The stupidity is infantile. Tell you what, just to fill you in, I will copy/paste a post I made earlier in this thread which goes over just some of the deficiencies of agent orange, an orange imbecile. Help you to define what so impresses you about an obvious idiot. And maybe I got you all wrong, maybe you are capable of thinking and speaking a shade deeper than a slogan a parrot could repeat. Maybe you can dissect this critique of Trump while giving us a dazzling display of sheer eloquence and superior knowledge. Incidentally your standard short sentence or two wont do that. You see the post i'm about to paste is well over 4 words long, in fact I just put it into a word counter and it came out at 801 words, 200 times longer than that slogan you're so entranced by. Reading level 16 to 17 years of age, reading time 2 minutes 55 seconds. Speaking time 4 minutes 27 seconds if you're one of those people who have to speak to read, sound their words like. Here it is. It's a comparison of Trump and the presumed Democrat candidate Biden, not Gary Glitter who incidentally would be ineligible to run even if he weren't a jailed paedophile. Anyone trying to draw any equivalence between Biden and agent orange on any level aside from age is immediately suspect as someone of a Trump/Carlson kind. Someone blatantly trying to operate outside any norms of good faith non bias debate by for just one thing ignoring obvious realities. Or even saying an obvious reality doesn't exist, while spouting blatantly obvious lies. They often come up with some trivial shite that means little to nothing in the big picture, to stop you talking about the obvious big picture. While both Trump and Carlson blatantly lie through their teeth every time they speak, profusely lie. Lies so blatantly obvious anyone of average intelligence and looking outside a narrative bubble cannot fail to see it. Alternative facts. And they can bizarrely draw an equivalence between Biden with this lie machine? That's beyond FUBAR. Behaviour that would be a death sentence in terms of credibility just 10 years ago in both politics and civil society. And that's only one angle of it, this truly bizarre ocean of lies. What's the major problem with Biden? He's a doddery old guy? Rather than an obviously vile misogynistic sociopathic narcissistic thin skinned serial rapist with obvious and serious lack of intellect. Something as unintelligent and uniformed as Trump is fine if he's just cycling through bankruptcy's and scamming idiots while losing money all over the place. A failed wannabe business mogul who was always a cartoon character to the real estate industry in New York, a laughing stock and he knew it. Who got a gig on TV pretending to be a real successful business mogul. And that show gave him the most money he ever made, a winning scam. He should have stuck to it, it was making him rich. And we're just getting started on his inadequacies, we haven't reached pussy grabbing serial rapist yet. A weirdo who pretty much said he would like to shag his own daughter if she weren't his daughter, while following his defamation of E. Jean Carroll trail the judge stated that by the definition of the law he raped her. I think he put a finger into her which amounts to penetration which amounts to rape. Think of how violent and frightening that must have been for this woman who was trying to resist, he 'grabbed her by the pussy' While during that trial other women were introduced who also described being raped by him. This is a pervert anybody of average intelligence could equate with Biden? In good faith? An unstable individual who lashes out on a whim, a toddler like mentality known for throwing plates of food at walls. An individual facing 4 criminal trails and a total of 91 felony charges of which he is obviously guilty of. Someone who tried to execute a coup which depended on Mike Pence breaking the law to take part in it, when he didn't then the last throw of the dice was physically prevent the transfer of power. He wanted to go to the barricades himself that day because he wanted to make sure that crowd would become as violent as possible. Which he knew they would if he were there still ranting about Pence being a traitor and a rigged election. He was going to create a gap in those barriers himself, lead the mob through with secrets service creating a path. The secret service prevented him going there because they knew this could end in shooting for just one thing. Insurrectionist and something that's saying outright he will be an authoritarian dictator, who has stated he will close down any media news that calls his lies what they are, like Putin does in Russia. And that can be done believe it or not, by taking control of various government agencies by filling them with trumpets and that's just scraping the surface of it. All that and so much more. if this low IQ mentally unstable toddler were re-elected the strategic global situation would make a greater shift than it did following WW2, it would happen overnight, and it would most definitely be disastrous for Britain, Europe, and the wider world. On the other hand if Biden were re-elected, doddery or not, in these times of international conflict in Europe and the middle east we can be confident rationality through consultation and discussion will be the governing policy. Not the erratic and irrational impulses of a self obsessed self centered idiot who is obviously an unfit human being far less a leader of anything at all. Anything not seeing all of that is either completely ignorant, like Trump himself, or if seeing it and doesn't care, is a Batman joker like character, just wants to see the world burn down. The joker was insane and so are they. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic Username Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 "I appreciate it led his haters into a frenzy" The evidence here, from some top tier posting in the dead of night about *checks notes* Gary Glitter, that if Trump led haters into a frenzy, he's led his supporters to a serious brain injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 End of debate surely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFK-1 Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 1 minute ago, Mikey1874 said: End of debate surely Yeah right Vlad, that deserves a LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFK-1 Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 This is one of the reasons I like Seth Meyers, he shows me elements I hadn't picked up on anywhere else. Like this clip I have set to begin just before it goes into a section about that woman who lost the election last night, and when questioned afterwards was full blown MAGA, witch hunt crazy level and you will see her doing it. Embarrassing cringeworthy level of obsequiousness which becomes more interesting when it moves on to Trumps response to her loss on his troof soshul. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffros Furios Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 The Taylor Green witch along with the other rabble of MAGA clowns need lined up against wall and shot .. horrible thick inbred ***** !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFK-1 Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 17 hours ago, Watt-Zeefuik said: Democratic pessimism has become a ****ing cottage industry in Washington in the last decade or so. "Dems in disarray" became such a common headline that it became a joke meme and now the political rags have to use "increasingly concerned" instead. Some of this is worthwhile, as excessive optimism is in some ways more dangerous. But sometimes it's just in denial of empirical results. I'm again quoting Josh Marshall on this: Full post here: https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/ny3-post-game-its-all-over-but-deciding-why-the-dem-win-doesnt-matter/sharetoken/EtTMbwYZIWpW A 16 point swing and that can't be entirely down to Santos. I'm not suggesting we would see that across the board but I would suggest we will see a lot of it in many places. And that's before the optics around Trump become even worse. I think a large number of republican voters have come to the end of their tether with not just Trump but the whole MAGA mental shit show. You mentioned earlier about how this congress was a farce. The current decrepitude of the entire body politic plus the poisonous effect it has on the entire society. The Republicans aren't even trying to govern, they're simply intentionally creating chaos at the behest of a total maniac. How insane can it get? This is a society having a mental breakdown when something like the aberration Trump is can even be suggested as a fit person to put in the Whitehouse. And something like Jewish space lasers MJT gets elected to anything but head girl in the asylum. It's a mental breakdown deadly enemies of the nation are salivating on and encouraging, we have Carlson in Russia fawning over the dictator while allowing him to freely reinvent history. Quentin Tarantino Inglorious Basterds style alternative history. In Putin's version Poland started WW2, Hitler was forced to attack them because they're bad. Do you as a born American think this insanity they all know will just get worse if Trump were elected, shit he broadcasts how insane it will be, Do you think this country would actually elect that? I don't. But your experience is far greater than mine. I think it's valid at this time to call this country dystopian, they know what the cure is for this mental breakdown/dystopia. You probably know Trump did his usual thing on Monday, waited till the very last minute to file an appeal with the SC within a week, last minute literally. I think it was 1 minute before the 5pm deadline. The SC gave Jack Smith a week to file a response to Trumps appeal, he didn't wait till the very last minute, he filed his response the very next day. I bet he pretty much had it pre-prepared because Trump is so predictable. Think the response was 39 pages in which Smith actually said this is nothing but an attempt to delay the trial, with nothing, it has zero merit and should be immediately dismissed. Went into great detail through his 39 pages detailing how meritless this appeal is, and being brutal regarding Trump simply trying to escape justice. His filing also pretty much stated that they should be quick about this, since there is nothing there to decide. The pundits such as Glenn Kirschner are saying Trump could be in court facing Jack Smith by late March to early April. A place where only facts will have any value, Trump/MAGA fantasy nonsense will have zero value. These trials are going to produce another level of bad optics around Trump and MAGA, it's going to be incredibly damning shit and a lot of surprises for everybody i say again to the naysayers, he's going down. 😉 Why Trump could lose to Jack Smith and face prison risk: Katyal on SCOTUS news Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 2 hours ago, Jeffros Furios said: The Taylor Green witch along with the other rabble of MAGA clowns need lined up against wall and shot .. horrible thick inbred ***** !! Calling Dave out for the chinless wonder he actually is? Many lols. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovecraft Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-us-canada-68289611 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 Trump's lawyers: "This court case is election interference because our client is on the election trail" Judge: "Shut the feck up you dicks, dismissal denied, this trial is moving forwards, jury selection will be in march." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pans Jambo Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 29 minutes ago, Cade said: Trump's lawyers: "This court case is election interference because our client is on the election trail" Judge: "Shut the feck up you dicks, dismissal denied, this trial is moving forwards, jury selection will be in march." I like that judge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il Duce McTarkin Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 3 hours ago, The Mighty Thor said: Calling Dave out for the chinless wonder he actually is? Many lols. What did Dave say that the MAGAs have taken such offence to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 54 minutes ago, il Duce McTarkin said: What did Dave say that the MAGAs have taken such offence to? He was calling out the MAGA types for appeasing Putin over funding for Ukraine. Trailer Queen said he sould concentrate on his own country and can kiss her ass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ked Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 (edited) There is no moral high ground to be held in any way regarding Ukraine. Another murky episode in greed. And people like me pay the price. Lybia,Syria ,Yemen ,Gaza ,a list of African nations that no one gives a shit about. There are no good guys . Just slightly less worse. When I say me I mean normal everyday. I've probably on the whole benefitted from violent Western foreign policy. We all have. Edited February 15 by Ked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ked Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 8 hours ago, Mikey1874 said: End of debate surely Could I just remind everyone that the majority of the world not just Russia view us (the west) quite a bit differently to what we imagine. They hold us responsible for every recent conflict and we're pretty much seen as shitstirring !!##£. The carnage inflicted pre Trump yet somehow he's cast as the danger? The damage was done as soon as his style struck a chord regardless of the slurs against his voters. Previous administrations laid the path with war based on lies and the destabilising of countries that purposely created chaos. The same posters who would agree when it's Gaza ignore the dozens of other wars/conflicts/destabilising tactics in other arenas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watt-Zeefuik Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 Quote Do you as a born American think this insanity they all know will just get worse if Trump were elected, shit he broadcasts how insane it will be, Do you think this country would actually elect that? I don't. But your experience is far greater than mine. @JFK-1 I didn't think the US would elect him the first time after the Billy Bush "grab them" video emerged. I didn't think his vote total would go *up* in 2020. I don't know WTF the country is going to do, but fortunately it's not my job to make predictions. I know the chance of him being re-elected is real and we have to do everything we can to stop it, and by extension to electorally bury his GOP enablers in Washington. That's what I'm trying to focus on. Yes, of course, I check in on the prognosticators because despair creeps in when you're tired, and fortunately there's plenty of evidence for being hopeful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 DA Fani Willis on the stand just now in the Trump case to recuse her. Sounds like it could be pretty argumentative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il Duce McTarkin Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 3 hours ago, The Mighty Thor said: He was calling out the MAGA types for appeasing Putin over funding for Ukraine. Trailer Queen said he sould concentrate on his own country and can kiss her ass He's not wrong, tbf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 22 hours ago, Ulysses said: I don't mind what kind of picture you paint. I just have a preference for artists who base their sketches on the landscape itself rather than what they would like the landscape to look like. No imagination. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 31 minutes ago, redjambo said: No imagination. True dat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFK-1 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 While Trumps first criminal trial is not the most serious he is facing, not quite on the level of insurrection and illegal retention of classified documents. But this is still serious shit involving dozens of felony charges that can bring jail time.. that can bring jail time. Judge was totally brutal with Trumps shit talking lawyers, an overall humiliating slap down. But this is exactly what it's going to be like in all courts, the net is closing and for the first time in his life he's not getting out of it. Judge to Trump's face: You’re going on trial in March Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watt-Zeefuik Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 I don't put too much stock in this, but someone asked 500+ scholars of US Presidential history to rank Presidential "greatness." I definitely disagree with a few of them (I'd put Reagan or "RR" a lot lower) but it's fine as these things go. No surprise who comes in last. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watt-Zeefuik Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 Oh, and they did an overrated and underrated ranking. By my look Obama is the only one to make both lists. http://www.brandonrottinghaus.com/uploads/1/0/8/7/108798321/presidential_greatness_white_paper_2024.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey J J Jr Shabadoo Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 On 15/02/2024 at 01:56, Cade said: aye but what if it wiz fred west or jimmy savile or harold shipman running fur the democrats likesay eh what then eh? eh? Doddsy has posters of them on his wall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterion Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 14 hours ago, Footballfirst said: DA Fani Willis on the stand just now in the Trump case to recuse her. Sounds like it could be pretty argumentative. I was listening to the early part of proceedings in court. An absolute train wreck with Nathan Wade's divorce lawyer, Fani's former best pal and Wade himself on the stand. The whole show seemed to imply that Willis/Wade had an affair despite Wade's marriage being over as far back as 2015 (due to his wife having an affair), then about trying to catch them out with money/payments. It was a lot of trying to drag people through the mud. The former best pal for example was suggesting a timeframe for when Willis/Wade became romantically involved. Later in testimony that had to admit she had performance issues at work and had been disciplined, later she admitted she was offered the chance to resign instead of being sacked. Wade spent time explaining why he didn't have an affair (ie. Marriage over) and offering reasonable information on financial transactions and how he split bills with Willis for things. It was just messy but i got the impression both sides did their job well (one asking difficult/probing questions, the others replying confidently and with answers that could be legit). There's a second day of proceedings to go and after the first day the Trump lawyers didn't get anything significant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 1 hour ago, Mysterion said: There's a second day of proceedings to go and after the first day the Trump lawyers didn't get anything significant. Given how Fani Willis attacked Ashleigh Merchant's pleadings as being full of lies, right at the start of her giving evidence, I'd expect that Anna Cross will enable Willis to refute the claims later today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watt-Zeefuik Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 2 hours ago, Mysterion said: I was listening to the early part of proceedings in court. An absolute train wreck with Nathan Wade's divorce lawyer, Fani's former best pal and Wade himself on the stand. The whole show seemed to imply that Willis/Wade had an affair despite Wade's marriage being over as far back as 2015 (due to his wife having an affair), then about trying to catch them out with money/payments. It was a lot of trying to drag people through the mud. The former best pal for example was suggesting a timeframe for when Willis/Wade became romantically involved. Later in testimony that had to admit she had performance issues at work and had been disciplined, later she admitted she was offered the chance to resign instead of being sacked. Wade spent time explaining why he didn't have an affair (ie. Marriage over) and offering reasonable information on financial transactions and how he split bills with Willis for things. It was just messy but i got the impression both sides did their job well (one asking difficult/probing questions, the others replying confidently and with answers that could be legit). There's a second day of proceedings to go and after the first day the Trump lawyers didn't get anything significant. Merchant (who isn't a lawyer for Trump directly but is a lawyer for one of his accused co-conspirators, so might as well be) isn't even trying to get Willis to recuse here. They're just sliming Willis so that when he loses in Georgia he can scream, "WITCH HUNT!!!" on Truth Social. 7 minutes ago, Jim_Duncan said: I’d have Calvin Coolidge far higher Out of curiosity, why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maple Leaf Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 41 minutes ago, Jim_Duncan said: I’d have Calvin Coolidge far higher It's good to see Herbert Hoover so low, even lower that Nixon. If Archie Bunker liked him, he must have been really baaad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 Today's live proceedings from Fulton Court. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watt-Zeefuik Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 (edited) 1 hour ago, Jim_Duncan said: I randomly picked up a book about him in the uni library when I was writing about/researching FDR and the New Deal. I find him a fascinating president and person. A quick overview here: https://www.voanews.com/amp/new-appreciation-for-americas-forgotten-president--102078063/162142.html Interesting. I guess you can distinguish him from Harding certainly in that Harding was bombastic and incompetent whereas Coolidge was quiet and competent. But to me his anti-immigration and low tax policies helped push the economy into the unbalanced and warped state that made it susceptible to the great crash of 29. And his Native policies were on one level more humanitarian than many of his predecessors but were also paternalistic and ultimately unhelpful to Natives themselves. (https://www.zocalopublicsquare.org/2017/11/30/calvin-coolidge-didnt-understand-native-americans/ideas/essay/) So yeah, I guess I'd agree he doesn't deserve to be down with GWB and Nixon but I'd only move him up to the next group of the McKinleys, Fords, and Clevelands. The other thing looking at that chart reminds me is just how many terrible Presidents the US has had and how bad Trump had to be to claw his way to the bottom of them. Edited February 16 by Watt-Zeefuik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watt-Zeefuik Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 2 hours ago, Jim_Duncan said: I think he’s always tarred with the same brush as Hoover because HH followed him. However, Hoover was a chancer, IMO. I don’t think many US presidents come out of their dealings with the native peoples looking too good, TBF. He, of course, was of his time. I don’t agree with all his policies, but I do agree with his fiscal prudence and distrust of government interference. If you’re into US presidential history, have you ever listened to the ‘Wicked Game’ podcast? I'm a bit over the "of his time" thing as an excuse for people. He had legislation on his desk to protect native land rights and he vetoed it, contributing to the loss of 90 million acres of their land. There were certainly Presidents before him who were significantly better. It's also notable because he imagined he had Native ancestry (it's possible but likely he didn't), was formally adopted into the tribe by the Lakota (nominally quite a big deal but I get the sense it's a bit like an honorary degree), and made all natives citizens, so that was good, but the "Indian Education Movement" reached its zenith under him, the horrors of which are now finally getting their full recognition. As for his economic policies, to me they're yet another data point in the growing list of times that "low taxes, laissez-faire economics" has led to an economic crash. I think understanding the limits of government intervention is certainly vital, but at some point I wish we'd collectively learn that lesson. I haven't heard the podcast. Not a big presidential history buff myself, other than in the service of wishing we'd scale back the oversized powers that the Presidency has ended up with at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovecraft Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 (edited) $354 Million. Oooooft. Nothing to a guy that has many, many, millions... great millions. The best millions. Much bigliest millions. Edited February 16 by Lovecraft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 (edited) The Court hereby enjoins Donald Trump, Allen Weisselberg, and Jeffrey McConney from serving as an officer or director of any New York corporation or other legal entity in New York for a period of three years. The Court hereby enjoins Donald Trump and the Trump Organization and its affiliates from applying for loans from any financial institution chartered by or registered with the New York State Department of Financial Services for a period of three years. ORDERED that defendants Donald Trump, the Donald J. Trump Revocable Trust, the Trump Organization, Inc., Trump Organization LLC, DJT Holdings LLC, DJT Holdings Managing Member, Trump Endeavor 12 LLC, 401 North Wabash Venture LLC, Trump Old Post Office LLC, 40 Wall Street LLC, are jointly and severally liable to plaintiff in the amount of $168,040,168, with pre-judgment interest from March 4, 2019; and it is further ORDERED that defendants Donald Trump, the Donald J. Trump Revocable Trust, the Trump Organization, Inc., and Trump Organization LLC, and the Trump Old Post Office LLC are jointly and severally liable to plaintiff in the amount of $126,828,600, with pre-judgment interest from May 11, 2022; and it is further ORDERED that defendants Donald Trump, the Donald J. Trump Revocable Trust, the Trump Organization, Inc., and Trump Organization LLC are jointly and severally liable to plaintiff in the amount of $60,000,000, with pre-judgment interest from June 26, 2023; and it is further ORDERED that defendant Eric Trump is liable to plaintiff in the amount of $4,013,024, with pre-judgment interest from May 11, 2022; and it is further ORDERED that defendant Donald Trump, Jr. is liable to plaintiff in the amount of $4,013,024, with pre-judgment interest from May 11, 2022; and it is further ORDERED that defendant Allen Weisselberg is liable to plaintiff in the amount of $1,000,000, with pre-judgment interest from January 9, 2023 Edited February 16 by Cade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JFK-1 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 13 minutes ago, Lovecraft said: $354 Million. Oooooft. Nothing to a guy that has many, many, millions... great millions. The best millions. Much bigliest millions. This was the most politically motivated accusation in the history of life on Earth, the most witch huntiest and everybody knows it. But I have millions and billions and whatever is bigger than billions, and i'm counting it out right now in $1 bills. So, 1,2,3,4, wait where was I? 1,2,3. where was I? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic Username Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 Is that the default Trump response now, that everything is a politically motivated witch hunt? Found guilty of sexual assault? Politically motivated. Guilty of cooking the books for decades? Politically motivated. Being held to account for January 6th? Politically motivated. Shouted at by his wife for not flushing the toilet? Politically motivated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maple Leaf Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 6 minutes ago, Generic Username said: Is that the default Trump response now, that everything is a politically motivated witch hunt? Found guilty of sexual assault? Politically motivated. Guilty of cooking the books for decades? Politically motivated. Being held to account for January 6th? Politically motivated. Shouted at by his wife for not flushing the toilet? Politically motivated. Throw in a shout or two of "witch hunt" and you have it covered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 Just as well he gets all those donations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFK-1 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 17 minutes ago, Generic Username said: Is that the default Trump response now, that everything is a politically motivated witch hunt? Found guilty of sexual assault? Politically motivated. Guilty of cooking the books for decades? Politically motivated. Being held to account for January 6th? Politically motivated. Shouted at by his wife for not flushing the toilet? Politically motivated. Overfilled his diaper, shite running down his legs, the Biden crime clan slipped a diaper size too small into his stash. Witch hunt. No wonder he's always bitching about toilets not flushing, imagine trying to flush away a filled diaper big enough to cover that gigantic orange arse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 4 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: Just as well he gets all those donations. $354m 😂 That's a lot mug punters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maple Leaf Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 Now that the "Real Estate genius" has been exposed as a fraud, we can that to his list of failed businesses. And let's not forget that he's a rapist, and an admitted molester of women. And the Republicans want this embarrassment to be their Presidential candidate. His failed businesses are: 1. Trump Steaks 2. GoTrump 3. Trump Airlines 4. Trump Vodka 5. Trump Mortgage 6. Trump: The Game 7. Trump Magazine 8. Trump University 9. Trump Ice 10. The New Jersey Generals 11. Tour de Trump 12. Trump Network 13. Trumped! Trump companies that sought bankruptcy protection: 1. Trump Taj Mahal 2. Trump’s Castle 3. Trump Plaza Casinos 4. Trump Plaza Hotel 5. Trump Hotels and Casinos Resorts 6. Trump Entertainment Resorts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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