martoon Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 I suspect he'd retire rather than sign for Hearts. Didn't he refuse a Jim Jefferies approach around 2010 when he was young, at Livingston, and such a move made career sense in every way? Pity. JJ would have been good for him and a well managed Griffiths for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 I would rather get relegated and give Levein a 10-yr contract than have that **** playing for Heart of Midlothian Football Club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shooter McGavin Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 (edited) Griffiths the player, yes every day of the week. Griffiths the person, not a chance. There is absolutely no chance this would ever happen. Would rather we had a go at re-signing Lafferty but that ship has sailed. Edited September 30, 2019 by Shooter McGavin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOak88 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 19 minutes ago, martoon said: I suspect he'd retire rather than sign for Hearts. Didn't he refuse a Jim Jefferies approach around 2010 when he was young, at Livingston, and such a move made career sense in every way? Pity. JJ would have been good for him and a well managed Griffiths for us. Yeah we tried to sign him back when he was at Livi but turned us down due to being a Hibs fan and went to Dundee instead. Cant see him ever signing for Hearts and wouldn’t want him to either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martoon Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 16 minutes ago, TheOak88 said: Yeah we tried to sign him back when he was at Livi but turned us down due to being a Hibs fan and went to Dundee instead. Cant see him ever signing for Hearts and wouldn’t want him to either. Nor me, bud. Not now. Way too much baggage and really don't believe it would stand any chance of lasting or being a successful move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamhammer Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 2 hours ago, Forever Hearts said: He's not. Oh my bad. Thought singing, “Rudi Skacel is a ******* refugee”, with all of your mates made you a massive racist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Des Lynam Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 1 minute ago, Jamhammer said: Oh my bad. Thought singing, “Rudi Skacel is a ******* refugee”, with all of your mates made you a massive racist You are using facts mate. Bit unfair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mayfield Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Only 28 too, imagine the goals and earnings left in him if he wasn’t such a peanut. Some folk really have no hope though - I imagine his parents weren’t too bright either along with the resultant upbringing. Almost feel sorry for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever Hearts Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 5 minutes ago, Jamhammer said: Oh my bad. Thought singing, “Rudi Skacel is a ******* refugee”, with all of your mates made you a massive racist It doesn't, it makes him a bit of a ignorant tube, but not a massive racist. Same as the guys who sang the naughty songs at Tynecastle 30 and 40 years ago aren't bigots. It was a song. Nothing more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Burgundy Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 7 minutes ago, Jamhammer said: Oh my bad. Thought singing, “Rudi Skacel is a ******* refugee”, with all of your mates made you a massive racist Nope, nor does telling someone to go back home because their name sounds foreign. if a wee 16 year old acted like he did at Tynecastle the outcry from Budge and some supporters would be deafening. He'd be banned for life and rightly so. He's scum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamhammer Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 1 minute ago, Forever Hearts said: It doesn't, it makes him a bit of a ignorant tube, but not a massive racist. Same as the guys who sang the naughty songs at Tynecastle 30 and 40 years ago aren't bigots. It was a song. Nothing more. Aah okay. So you can sing racist or bigoted songs but not be a racist or bigot? Makes sense. So if I want to racially abuse someone in future I’ll put a wee tune to it and be grand. What’s the weather like in your own little world? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever Hearts Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Just now, Jamhammer said: Aah okay. So you can sing racist or bigoted songs but not be a racist or bigot? Makes sense. So if I want to racially abuse someone in future I’ll put a wee tune to it and be grand. What’s the weather like in your own little world? Amazed that he's managed to play with umpteen players of different ethnicities at Celtic and not been outed as this "massive racist". He sang a daft song in a pub with his mates, get over it. I'm sure Rudi is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 3 hours ago, Saughton Jambo said: How happy would your life be if you were making a really good wage, way beyond your dreams, at your place of employment. As you are rich and successful you are then ‘targeted’ or ‘approached’ by a criminal element in your home town and given hundreds of thousands of pounds in which to gamble/spend/launder as you wont raise suspicion in the casino. Would you tell them to bolt or would you listen to what they have to say? This plan involves a risk as it was assumed he would place calculated risks with winning bets and not stupid risks in which he blows all the gangsters money. So instead of doubling up, laundering their cash and taking a large chunk in commission for being a good boy, he ends up on their hit list for being a daft wee silly boy. The commission being he keeps all the winnings and only pays back what he was given to launder. LG is vulnerable but he surely knows what’s right from wrong. A bit like playing Russian roulette with a full chamber of you ask me. So let me ask you DTD.....would you have done the same had you been approached or told them to sling their hook? And do you still feel sympathetic to his mental health issues caused by his reckless and foolish actions? He’s lucky he still has his kneecaps intact but the gangsters realise if they maim him then he can never pay it back with future earnings unlike the Brad Welsh scenario I don’t sympathise with his mistakes. I just don’t think he’a got a very happy life. That’s all. The amount of money he’s made from football is irrelevant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyNic Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 6 minutes ago, Forever Hearts said: It doesn't, it makes him a bit of a ignorant tube, but not a massive racist. Same as the guys who sang the naughty songs at Tynecastle 30 and 40 years ago aren't bigots. It was a song. Nothing more. Are you forgetting he also told an Asian guy on Twitter to "**** off back to his own country". But yeh, he's definitely not a thick, racist scumbag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever Hearts Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 1 minute ago, AndyNic said: Are you forgetting he also told an Asian guy on Twitter to "**** off back to his own country". But yeh, he's definitely not a thick, racist scumbag. Did he get done for that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 8 minutes ago, mayfield said: Only 28 too, imagine the goals and earnings left in him if he wasn’t such a peanut. Some folk really have no hope though - I imagine his parents weren’t too bright either along with the resultant upbringing. Almost feel sorry for him. I’m here a bit tbh. Griffiths like a few before him should’ve went south and stayed there to keep him away from the utter tubes he’s surrounded himself with. 28 years old and looking almost washed up and looking at going down the way now. What an absolute clown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meadows Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 The best thing and most likely scenario for The Thumb would be a loan move as far from Edinburgh/ Glasgow as possible . However, who ever signs him still has to deal with his excess baggage . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyNic Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, Forever Hearts said: Did he get done for that? Yes. Arrested and charged. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-21328997 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dallas Green Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 3 minutes ago, Forever Hearts said: Did he get done for that? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-21328997 He got charged for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandyk Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 (edited) On another (slightly related) note, I notice that Keisuke Honda is looking for a club in Europe https://sportstar.thehindu.com/football/keisuke-honda-football-offer-plea-manchester-united-twitter/article29541573.ece Be great to have him help Meshino become the next big thing out of Japan Edited September 30, 2019 by sandyk grammar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Des Lynam Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 11 minutes ago, Forever Hearts said: Did he get done for that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamhammer Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Forever Hearts said: Amazed that he's managed to play with umpteen players of different ethnicities at Celtic and not been outed as this "massive racist". He sang a daft song in a pub with his mates, get over it. I'm sure Rudi is. Strangely enough the great man himself said it WAS racist. Dont bother coming back you are obviously either Leigh Griffiths or one of his many children Edited September 30, 2019 by Jamhammer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4marsbars Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 19 minutes ago, Dusk_Till_Dawn said: I don’t sympathise with his mistakes. I just don’t think he’a got a very happy life. That’s all. The amount of money he’s made from football is irrelevant. That's where I am too. Nobody should take pleasure from seeing another human being struggle, but many do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever Hearts Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 1 minute ago, Jamhammer said: Strangely enough the great man himself said it WAS racist. Dont bother coming back you are obviously either Leigh Griffins or one of his many children So that song makes him a massive racist? I hope you've never attended any sportsmans dinners where certain ex Hearts players have been the speakers. Your wee head would've exploded at some of the chat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flaps_98 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 7 minutes ago, Forever Hearts said: So that song makes him a massive racist? I hope you've never attended any sportsmans dinners where certain ex Hearts players have been the speakers. Your wee head would've exploded at some of the chat. Or ever watched Disa Pointon's 98 cup video - the Robbo and Jose bit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamhammer Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 6 minutes ago, Forever Hearts said: So that song makes him a massive racist? I hope you've never attended any sportsmans dinners where certain ex Hearts players have been the speakers. Your wee head would've exploded at some of the chat. Go and define what you consider racist chief? Makes no odds who did what years ago or if you can work with people from different ethnic backgrounds. If you sing something rather than shout it. My “wee” head has been around for near 60 years and hasn’t exploded yet despite hearing numerous ignorant racist bellends spouting nonsense at West Ham and Hearts games. I’m really interested in what you consider to be racist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever Hearts Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 14 minutes ago, Jamhammer said: Go and define what you consider racist chief? Makes no odds who did what years ago or if you can work with people from different ethnic backgrounds. If you sing something rather than shout it. My “wee” head has been around for near 60 years and hasn’t exploded yet despite hearing numerous ignorant racist bellends spouting nonsense at West Ham and Hearts games. I’m really interested in what you consider to be racist If Griffiths was a "massive racist" he wouldn't even share a dressing room with black players. Think about what you're saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N Lincs Jambo Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 So a wee story appears overnight about Griffiths, yet again effing up at Celtic. I have no idea whatsoever about whether this is true or not but as others have said the chances of a new player at Celtic calling another player a "feni@n b'strd" are extremely slim. If it did happen you have to think that the said new player will not be there long and will almost certainly be hounded out by the green brigade. Griffiths as a player is an extremely talented footballer and if he had no baggage I would love him at Hearts. Only two problems here: one, if he had no baggage he would be first name on the team sheet each week at Celtic; and two, we couldn't afford him. Problem is he has massive baggage which is why he's on the fringes at Celtic. Reading the HMSA Dinner thread and the Q&A with Levein and MacPhee, they make it clear that the character of a player is very important. They mentioned that some clubs in England even hire Private Detectives to follow a prospective player around to see what they are like in their free time. The inference there being that whilst Hearts don't go to those lengths they understand why some clubs do and that a player's character off the field is very important. For that alone there is no chance Griffiths will ever be coming to Tynecastle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterion Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 49 minutes ago, sandyk said: On another (slightly related) note, I notice that Keisuke Honda is looking for a club in Europe https://sportstar.thehindu.com/football/keisuke-honda-football-offer-plea-manchester-united-twitter/article29541573.ece Be great to have him help Meshino become the next big thing out of Japan Saw him a couple of times last season - looked decent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamhammer Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 9 minutes ago, Forever Hearts said: If Griffiths was a "massive racist" he wouldn't even share a dressing room with black players. Think about what you're saying. Why? You can’t work with people of a different ethnic background and get paid. Shitload of money for doing it if you ARE a racist? What do you consider racist? Answer the question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
been here before Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 10 minutes ago, Mysterion said: Saw him a couple of times last season - looked decent. Decent engine? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever Hearts Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 5 minutes ago, Jamhammer said: Why? You can’t work with people of a different ethnic background and get paid. Shitload of money for doing it if you ARE a racist? What do you consider racist? Answer the question. I don't consider Leigh Griffiths to be a "massive racist" because he sang a daft song in a pub with his mates. Ok? You do, I don't. Get over it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dallas Green Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 4 minutes ago, Forever Hearts said: I don't consider Leigh Griffiths to be a "massive racist" because he sang a daft song in a pub with his mates. Ok? You do, I don't. Get over it. Do you think he is racist after telling someone to go home because of their name/skin colour? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterion Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 1 minute ago, been here before said: Decent engine? From what i remember he was trying to get on the ball a lot and drive forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bking9 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 2 hours ago, A_A wehatethehibs said: Pigs would fly before we’d ever see Leigh Griffiths in a maroon shirt Exactly. Why is this even a discussion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Burgundy Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 12 minutes ago, been here before said: Decent engine? A triumph of a post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WageThief Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 1 minute ago, Dallas Green said: Do you think he is racist after telling someone to go home because of their name/skin colour? That is certainly racist. The Skacel song he sung was xenophobic and bizarre (Czech Republic isn't Bosnia) but I think a few people have short memories if they think they haven't sung anything worse. I have and I'm not even old enough to remember the Shed. The worst thing I have sung wasn't even sectarian or racist and was to the same tune as the Skacel one that Griffiths was caught singing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever Hearts Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 16 minutes ago, Dallas Green said: Do you think he is racist after telling someone to go home because of their name/skin colour? Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tasavallan Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 23 hours ago, Section Q said: Hard to believe anyone in the Celtic camp calling a player a fenian. All this stuff should have been settled about 300 years ago.....? If it is ex-Killie Taylor then maybe true. All my Killie friends are well sectarian in their views, as is most of Ayrshire TBH. Kilbirnie, Kilwinning, etc., there is a lot of Orange Lodges splattered around North Ayrshire. As Taylor has just joined Celtic, I suspect he has not had time to wash his mouth out properly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tasavallan Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 15 minutes ago, Bking9 said: Exactly. Why is this even a discussion Because this is a discussion forum, threads do not need a triage (although maybe they do) to determine of they can be posted. Would be quite happy if threads like this, and the Lafferty one, were confined to the rumour mill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dayman Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Jamhammer said: Go and define what you consider racist chief? Makes no odds who did what years ago or if you can work with people from different ethnic backgrounds. If you sing something rather than shout it. My “wee” head has been around for near 60 years and hasn’t exploded yet despite hearing numerous ignorant racist bellends spouting nonsense at West Ham and Hearts games. I’m really interested in what you consider to be racist Bit racist of you to suggest all refugees are the same race... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 6 hours ago, Forever Hearts said: I never said it was. 👍 No, you said Leigh Griffiths to Hearts was a non starter because he scores goals 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 6 hours ago, Forever Hearts said: I never said it was. 👍 No, you said Leigh Griffiths to Hearts was a non starter because he scores goals 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 6 hours ago, Forever Hearts said: I never said it was. 👍 No, you said Leigh Griffiths to Hearts was a non starter because he scores goals 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAndy Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 3 hours ago, Forever Hearts said: Yeah, he can keep his goals because he didn't grow up on Gorgie Road supporting Hearts. Think you missed my point. It's not us rejecting him it would likely be the other way round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, TexasAndy said: Think you missed my point. It's not us rejecting him it would likely be the other way round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMJ_1874 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 2 hours ago, Dusk_Till_Dawn said: I don’t sympathise with his mistakes. I just don’t think he’a got a very happy life. That’s all. The amount of money he’s made from football is irrelevant. No problem my pal. He’s wasting his chances and we shouldn’t feel sorry for him. There’s thousands like him out there that make mistakes and are well aware of what they’re getting into. File under GOC for wasting their careers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Section Q Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Tasavallan said: If it is ex-Killie Taylor then maybe true. All my Killie friends are well sectarian in their views, as is most of Ayrshire TBH. Kilbirnie, Kilwinning, etc., there is a lot of Orange Lodges splattered around North Ayrshire. As Taylor has just joined Celtic, I suspect he has not had time to wash his mouth out properly. Ring fence them, and let them live like the Amish....!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzyonthefence Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 2 hours ago, Forever Hearts said: Did he get done for that? Did Donald Trump? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Just now, Fozzyonthefence said: Did Donald Trump? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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