Tennant's 6's Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 So Cove, most likely, get awarded 3.0 win, maybe a small fine. Go out & win the remaining games, sharpen up upfront to get the goals for high, at the very least finish as one if the better 2nd placed teams. Bloody shambles, but should still be looking to get out the group for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E3OBE Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, milky_26 said: i only see either the game being awarded as 3-0 to cove or us being expelled from the cup. i actually see us being expelled with a fine of £2k or £3k Is 3-0 to Cove not an advantage to them so actually the only fair way to deal with it, is expelling us so nobody takes any points? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JME Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 Just now, Gambo said: Albion Rovers may have something to say about that. Was the Albion game a knockout game or in the group stage? I have no clue how the challenge cup works but I imagine that would be the deciding factor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romulus Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 13 minutes ago, John Findlay said: Won't be the first or last time this happens to us or another club. Take the punishment and move on. Wow. I’m sorry but I just take it quite as easily as this. There have been several administrative errors under this regime now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 9 minutes ago, Brighton Jambo said: One mitigating argument might be that we were two up, made the change and they scored. So no material advantage. That would involve common sense though. That and the SFA will be salivating at the thought of punishing us hard Doesn't matter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJGJ Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 Just now, JME said: Was the Albion game a knockout game or in the group stage? I have no clue how the challenge cup works but I imagine that would be the deciding factor. Knock out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionDJambo Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 1 minute ago, chester copperpot said: We would've been kicked out if it had been a knock out round. It wasn't so Cove will be awarded the tie and we will get a fine. ****ing embarrassing though I agree. The Albion Rovers example is different as it was a knock out round, not a league format. It’s a bit more than an embarrassment, when you think of the fans who went up there last night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 Just now, JME said: Was the Albion game a knockout game or in the group stage? I have no clue how the challenge cup works but I imagine that would be the deciding factor. would be knockout as the Challenge cup has no group stage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted July 19, 2018 Author Share Posted July 19, 2018 We won't get chucked out. It'll feck up the group stage for everyone else in our group, we just lose 3-0. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzzbomb1958 Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 Goodness gracious me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 Complete nightmare, just shouldn't ever be happening. Also why is the meeting not until Monday? Should be immediately so that the fans know what is happening before the game on Saturday, then ticket sales for the two games next week, plus folk have to make travel arrangements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonbe110 Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 8 minutes ago, Juanjo15 said: They won’t kick us out. We mean a lot of revenue for the other clubs we visit and I think we are on telly against Snecky. And against Raith this weekend. Surprised the hearing isnt tomorrow. Could be a meaningless game on Saturday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romulus Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 OH And for the record, we are an absolute certainty to be booted out the cup. What an absolute disgrace that this can happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlasgowHMFC23 Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 Shambles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Jambo Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 13 minutes ago, Brighton Jambo said: I agree let’s not lose our heads but we only get two realistic shots at silverware a season and someone’s inability to do their job could deprive us of one before we even get out of July. I think we have the right to be angry Yes, I agree. Probably should’ve “until we know the outcome” or something. but fully understand your point about silverware. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring Back Paulo Sergio Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, Gambo said: Albion Rovers may have something to say about that. You struggle to read Gambo? It said they were given a 3-0 defeat, not thrown out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirky Jambo Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36265268 seems a replay was considered but just not practical. They had 2 ineligible although one didn’t play Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosanostra Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 If we're thrown out of the cup or the game is awarded to Cove, whoever is responsible for this needs to be dismissed. Absolutely pathetic and inexcusable way to run a football club. Shameful tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambo85 Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 What a shambles and an embarrassment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king.Robbo Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 This is where we find out what the spl or whoever it is thinks of hearts... Do we get fined ? or Lose the 3 points? bet if it was the weegie lot it would be just a fine and swept under the carpet but got bad feeling we are gonna get shafted !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvery_Moon Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 Amateurish. Embarrassing and disgraceful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughesie27 Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 (edited) Who is Andy Irving Edited July 19, 2018 by hughesie27 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanthejambo Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 We are currently in a group situation not yet reached knockout. Likely we will see a 3-0 win for Cove and a fine for us. 3 games left to try and qualify Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamhammer Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 15 minutes ago, Zen Jambo said: Silly mistake. We take out punishment, someone gets reprimanded, we learn, we move on. Lets not lose our heads over it. Are you new here ? Folk have been waiting for an excuse to get weighed in to the club. Here it is. FWIW I’m in total agreement with you. It happens. West Ham did similar with Manny Omoyimni IIRC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JME Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 1 minute ago, CJGJ said: Knock out 1 minute ago, jamboinglasgow said: would be knockout as the Challenge cup has no group stage. Then I would think we would be judged differently as a points deduction/addition isn't really viable in the Challenge Cup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 1 minute ago, E3OBE said: Is 3-0 to Cove not an advantage to them so actually the only fair way to deal with it, is expelling us so nobody takes any points? But its complicated by the system of best 4 2nd place finishers in the 8 groups. No points = teams in our group disadvantaged Points given to other teams = possibly disadvantages teams in other groups Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Turn Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 Might spur us on to hammer the rest of the sides in our group now. Every cloud has a silver lining. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJGJ Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 It's not just a minor thing as this could cost the club £200,000 plus I find it hard to believe that no one checked just who was registered prior to the match...just slack procedures and working practices by those involved Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankblack Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 Someone has to be sacked for this as it is gross incompetence. I think we need to know the result before Saturday as there is no point our fans travelling on Saturday if we are going to be expelled or effectively put out by any punishment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romulus Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 4 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: It is a different perhaps unprecedented situation in being a group game Perhaps 3-0 victories awarded to every team. Surely the fairest outcome. And then the punishment of having to refund tickets for the home games. Hearing is Monday after Raith game but before Cowdenbeath and Inverness games. Why should Cove be awarded points but not the others? Maybe get/ need a friendly to make up the money / games. So yet again the supporters can dig deep to make up for their error? Can’t see many folk signing up to that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hungry hippo Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 4 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: It is a different perhaps unprecedented situation in being a group game Perhaps 3-0 victories awarded to every team. Surely the fairest outcome. And then the punishment of having to refund tickets for the home games. Hearing is Monday after Raith game but before Cowdenbeath and Inverness games. Why should Cove be awarded points but not the others? Maybe get/ need a friendly to make up the money / games. Cove were the only team have played against an ineligible player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 First game of the season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, GlasgowHMFC23 said: Shambles A real one. It had to happen one day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonbe110 Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 8 minutes ago, Gambo said: So out the cup we go? Don’t think so because that was a knockout competition. League cup is currently group stage so I’d expect a 3-0 Cove victory and a fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyJenkins Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 Let’s try n keep it in perspective tho. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaps Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 Whoever ****ed this up should be getting the sack imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey2690 Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 I think we might get kicked out, Albion Rovers were kicked out the Challenge Cup last year for similar IIRC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUTOL Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 List of possible sanctions. J16 Upon determining that a breach of or failure to fulfil the Rules or Regulations has been established, the Board or, as the case may be, a Commission may:- J16.1 give a warning as to future conduct; J16.2 give a reprimand; J16.3 impose a fine; J16.4 annul the result of an Official Match; J16.5 order that an Official Match be replayed; J16.6 impose a deduction of points; J16.7 award an Official Match (with such deemed score as it thinks appropriate) to a Club; J16.8 order the playing of an Official Match or Matches behind closed doors; J16.9 order the closure of all or part of a Stadium for such period and for such purposes as it thinks appropriate; J16.10 order the playing of an Official Match or Matches at such Stadium as it thinks appropriate; Plus others which don't seem applicable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonexile Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 What a ******* joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 Just now, Mort said: OH And for the record, we are an absolute certainty to be booted out the cup. What an absolute disgrace that this can happen. Think if it was knockout stage you'd be correct.. as it's in essence a "mini league" they Will treat it the same as a league fixture and award a 3-0 to Cove. Despite SFA being anti hearts.. they won't want the 3rd biggest club in the country out because of an admin error. Question is.. can we still get through The responsible party should be sacked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KyleLafferty Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 Hopefully cause there is time to replay the game, that we get fined and we replay it. However more likely it will be 3-0 to Cove. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lou Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 If the SFA player registration system is anything like the SYFA's then I'm not surprised they seen to make these things as complex as possible, a certain gentleman who works there loves to make things difficult Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizmo Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 3 point to Cove and a fine I would expect, disrupting the group further would be a nightmare for the organisers. Someone should get their jotters for this, it's a simple administrative task which is hard to excuse. Everyone who made the trip should be compensated in some manner as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambo Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 6 minutes ago, Bring Back Paulo Sergio said: You struggle to read Gambo? It said they were given a 3-0 defeat, not thrown out. It also says "Albion Rovers were thrown out", so yes thank you I can read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milky_26 Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 with the hearing not being until after our game v raith, that might help us as the spfl might not want to been seen to allow a game to go ahead when expulsion can happen after it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auldreekie1874 Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 1 minute ago, hughesie27 said: Who is Andy Irvine? Played rugby for Scotland about 40 years ago. I was up at Cove and don't even remember him coming on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D4nny_ Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 Not good at all, but mistakes happen. Pretty sure this won’t happen again. Still in the league cup for now! My guess is 3 points deducted and given to Cove, and a suspended fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 And to think the loyalty point cull was upsetting...... Hearts what have you done to us. Lol. Someone should defo be sacked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juanjo15 Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 4 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: It is a different perhaps unprecedented situation in being a group game Perhaps 3-0 victories awarded to every team. Surely the fairest outcome. And then the punishment of having to refund tickets for the home games. Hearing is Monday after Raith game but before Cowdenbeath and Inverness games. Why should Cove be awarded points but not the others? Maybe get/ need a friendly to make up the money / games. We will make the other clubs money and our group game has been chosen for tv with tickets all sold from different grounds I don’t believe there’s a chance we will get kicked out. The clubs it isn’t fair on would probably want our travelling support and or tv money instead of 3 points. Raith and Inverness are both on tv which they clubs will make money from too. We have sold out Raith already though and hearing is on Monday so that won’t matter but we will forfeit the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Der Kaiser Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 Feckin VAR again...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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