Edinburgh History

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[Sydney]

[Sydney]

[Sydney]

[Seymour M Hersh]

2 hours ago, Sydney said:

 

Raeburn Place from the flats above Henry"s

[Seymour M Hersh]

2 hours ago, Sydney said:

 

Hamilton Place looking at what is now the outdoor bit of Pizza Xpress and flats.

[Seymour M Hersh]

2 hours ago, Sydney said:

 

Raeburn Place.

[Seymour M Hersh]

On 27/03/2024 at 10:40, EIEIO said:

Don't remember "the store" being next to the Corrie Inn, when did it shut?

 

It turned into a Gym/Martial arts type place. Used to go to a Jackie Brown's class there on a Wednesday evening.

[dannymack]

7 hours ago, Tazio said:

Round the bypass to get there. And only cause the wife was driving, I only went if I was allowed a Mr Whippy and a bag of Daim sweets. 

 

LOL 😆   quite rightly too.

 

The A701 Is one of the main artery roads in and out of Edinburgh and depending on where you are In the City this road would take you via Burdiehouse if you were going to IKEA (straiton) but I suppose the by-pass is there for a reason. 

[dannymack]

7 hours ago, weegranty said:

There was a Chinese takeaway further down on the left and a boozer behind. I went to Burdiehouse primary in the early 80s.

 

Harmony 😉 

 

Can't think of any pub behind it though BUT I do know of The Burdiehouse Inn further up the Dual Carriageway on the right side opposite the Limekilns (Old Burdiehouse). 

[Daktari]

9 hours ago, dannymack said:

 

The bus is on tbe Burdiehouse Road Dual Carriageway with Burdiehouse Terrace in the background. 

Old Burdiehouse Road runs behind the photographers position with the subway just visible at the bottom of the picture 👍

Non-photographic for a change, but I like the history of place names in Edinburgh too.

 

Burdiehouse is widely accepted to be a corruption of Bordeaux House, either from immigrant workers living there, retainers of Mary Queen of Scots or Mary's wine store depending on which you believe to be most accurate. Similarly 'Little France' has the same sorts of connections, going back hundreds of years but still existing. 

 

I was always told that Liberton was derived from 'Leper Town' as there was a leper colony there, but it's also said that it is from old English for 'barley farm on a hill'. 

[Footballfirst]

Burdiehouse School

 

[Footballfirst]

16 minutes ago, Daktari said:

Non-photographic for a change, but I like the history of place names in Edinburgh too.

 

Burdiehouse is widely accepted to be a corruption of Bordeaux House, either from immigrant workers living there, retainers of Mary Queen of Scots or Mary's wine store depending on which you believe to be most accurate. Similarly 'Little France' has the same sorts of connections, going back hundreds of years but still existing. 

 

I was always told that Liberton was derived from 'Leper Town' as there was a leper colony there, but it's also said that it is from old English for 'barley farm on a hill'. 

This link gives some history behind a few streets and areas in Edinburgh, including Burdiehouse.

 

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1210556820185604101.html

Edited April 3 by Footballfirst

[Dirty Deeds]

Cameron Highlanders in 1914 v 1918

From https://x.com/fasc1nate/status/1775358546403893597?s=20

Edited April 3 by Dirty Deeds

[Daktari]

26 minutes ago, Dirty Deeds said:

Cameron Highlanders in 1914 v 1918

From https://x.com/fasc1nate/status/1775358546403893597?s=20

There's a bit of truth and a bit of fabrication in this one. From a fact checking website - 

 

The 1918 photo appears not to be real but to have been constructed from the first image to reflect the real casualties suffered by one of the battalions. 

A copy of the original 1914 photograph appears to have been displayed in Kildonan Museum on the Isle of South Uist in the Outer Hebrides as recently as 2015. 

The caption reads:

“This photograph of 27 officers and 1,000 men of the 1st Battalion 79th Queen’s Own Cameron Highlanders was taken at Edinburgh Castle prior to their departure for France on 12 August 1914. They landed in France on 14 August.

“The 1st Camerons sustained heavy losses in the early months of the war with the result that by Christmas 1914, all but one officer and 27 men were killed or wounded of the 27 officers and 1,000 men whose tartans had swung down the Lawnmarket from Edinburgh Castle on 12 August.”

It appears that this was the inspiration for the “1918 photo” which shows 28 men in total, presumably the one officer and 27 men mentioned in the caption at Kildonan Museum.

The reconstruction appears to also be displayed in the museum (you can see the bottom of it at the top of this photo). 

It would be incorrect to suggest that all but 28 men from this battalion died, as not all of those casualties suffered in 1914 may have been fatal. We also don’t know the fate of soldiers in the battalion after Christmas 1914. 

There are some clues which indicate that the “1918” photo is probably not real. For one, the shadows are inconsistent. While the “officer” at the front of the image has a shadow which stretches to the right of the image, none of the other soldiers have such prominent shadows.

Also the trees on the right of the image look remarkably similar. Over a period of four years, you would expect the leaves to have changed between the 1914 photo and the “1918 photo”.

[Stuart Lyon]

10 hours ago, weegranty said:

There was a Chinese takeaway further down on the left and a boozer behind. I went to Burdiehouse primary in the early 80s.

Would that wee boozer have been the

[weegranty]

2 hours ago, dannymack said:

 

Harmony 😉 

 

Can't think of any pub behind it though BUT I do know of The Burdiehouse Inn further up the Dual Carriageway on the right side opposite the Limekilns (Old Burdiehouse). 

The pub was behind the camera shot and was the one you mentioned. 

[dannymack]

10 hours ago, weegranty said:

There was a Chinese takeaway further down on the left and a boozer behind. I went to Burdiehouse primary in the early 80s.

 

2 hours ago, dannymack said:

 

Harmony 😉 

 

Can't think of any pub behind it though BUT I do know of The Burdiehouse Inn further up the Dual Carriageway on the right side opposite the Limekilns (Old Burdiehouse). 

 

22 minutes ago, Stuart Lyon said:

Would that wee boozer have been the

 

That's the Old Burdiehouse Inn, then it changed to The Bird in Hand then finally Old Bordeaux. 

 

Visited that establishment many a time in the passing, further up the road was The Straiton Inn, scene of a many good old Sunday session. 

 

[Radio Ga Ga]

3 hours ago, Footballfirst said:

Burdiehouse School

 

Started my school days there in 1968, grey shorts, white shirt with a red and white striped tie, black blazer and a black cap. I'm getting old 😞 

[I P Knightley]

4 hours ago, Daktari said:

Non-photographic for a change, but I like the history of place names in Edinburgh too.

 

Burdiehouse is widely accepted to be a corruption of Bordeaux House, either from immigrant workers living there, retainers of Mary Queen of Scots or Mary's wine store depending on which you believe to be most accurate. Similarly 'Little France' has the same sorts of connections, going back hundreds of years but still existing. 

 

I was always told that Liberton was derived from 'Leper Town' as there was a leper colony there, but it's also said that it is from old English for 'barley farm on a hill'. 

I'm glad to learn that as my brother moved to Liberton a couple of years ago and I now know to mention it when I see him at the weekend!

[periodictabledancer]

4 hours ago, Footballfirst said:

This link gives some history behind a few streets and areas in Edinburgh, including Burdiehouse.

 

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1210556820185604101.html

I enjoyed reading about the Goldenacre area : when I was a teenager in the 70s my then mate's gran was well into her 90s and although she had whar we now know as dementia , was able to describle the area in some detail as it was back in the 1890s, as it was when she was a child. 

 

When I think about it now it really hits me. 

[dannymack]

1 hour ago, Radio Ga Ga said:

Started my school days there in 1968, grey shorts, white shirt with a red and white striped tie, black blazer and a black cap. I'm getting old 😞 

Just before your time. 

 

 

 

[dannymack]

4 hours ago, Daktari said:

Non-photographic for a change, but I like the history of place names in Edinburgh too.

 

Burdiehouse is widely accepted to be a corruption of Bordeaux House, either from immigrant workers living there, retainers of Mary Queen of Scots or Mary's wine store depending on which you believe to be most accurate. Similarly 'Little France' has the same sorts of connections, going back hundreds of years but still existing. 

 

I was always told that Liberton was derived from 'Leper Town' as there was a leper colony there, but it's also said that it is from old English for 'barley farm on a hill'. 

 

Bordeaux Place carved into the block

 

Edited April 3 by dannymack

[dannymack]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Footballfirst]

[EIEIO]

2 hours ago, Footballfirst said:

Lothian Road?

[Footballfirst]

19 minutes ago, EIEIO said:

Lothian Road?

Yes. Has to be no later than 1956 because of the trams.  I like the "woodie" Morris Minor Traveller heading north. They only started production in 1952, so it helps date the image.

Edited April 3 by Footballfirst

[Mister T]

3 hours ago, dannymack said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Cracking photos of my neck of the woods. The last one - Liberton Drive has changed a bit!

[Daktari]

3 hours ago, Footballfirst said:

I wonder if the Shakespeare is the only pub in Edinburgh where the 'historic' frontage looks more modern than the present day one?  

[dannymack]

Straiton 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Sydney]

The lampposts were much better back in the 1950s and before.  Modern streetlighting looks boring and shite.

[Carl Fredrickson]

I dont often have images to post but I saw this one on FB today. A new one to me 

[been here before]

10 minutes ago, Carl Fredrickson said:

I dont often have images to post but I saw this one on FB today. A new one to me 

 

 

That was on the Evening News website the other day. Its on the current site of Waverley Station.

[Carl Fredrickson]

5 minutes ago, been here before said:

 

 

That was on the Evening News website the other day. Its on the current site of Waverley Station.

 

Someone must have copied it onto one of the FB sites I follow

[Australis]

10 hours ago, dannymack said:

Straiton 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Brilliant old photos of Straiton.

Thanks for posting.

 

 

 

[Footballfirst]

1 hour ago, Carl Fredrickson said:

I dont often have images to post but I saw this one on FB today. A new one to me 

 

Same buildings from different directions.

 

 

Edited April 4 by Footballfirst

[Australis]

17 hours ago, Mister T said:

Cracking photos of my neck of the woods. The last one - Liberton Drive has changed a bit!

Think one of the roads is now what we call double hedges road.

 

From the Gilmerton Road to the Kirk brae?

Liberton rugby club now at the top right?

 

[Jambo-Jimbo]

 

I seem to recall the above building was painted bright pink or am I thinking of another building alone this road.

[Footballfirst]

11 minutes ago, Jambo-Jimbo said:

 

I seem to recall the above building was painted bright pink or am I thinking of another building alone this road.

I think that's the same building as the Callyr Inn

 

[Footballfirst]

This link gives some good info about what is shown in 3 old photos of Waverley.

 

https://threadinburgh.scot/2022/11/21/the-thread-about-three-old-photographs-of-canal-street-railway-station-and-what-they-can-show-us-of-mid-19th-century-edinburgh/

[N Lincs Jambo]

On 04/01/2023 at 14:35, ¼½¾ said:

I don't remember that, I only moved to Edinburgh about 40 years ago. Found this though.

 

 

Looking through this thread for the first time in around 18 months (I found it too addictive so stopped!). The black car is a Fiat Uno 45s owned and driven by yours truly with Mrs NLJ in the passenger seat. Had to enlarge the pic to confirm. Pic must have been taken some time between 1988 and 1992. The Oak Inn in the background top left.

[Lone Striker]

22 hours ago, Footballfirst said:

Yes. Has to be no later than 1956 because of the trams.  I like the "woodie" Morris Minor Traveller heading north. They only started production in 1952, so it helps date the image.

Thanks for the explanation.   That car  and the tram in the same photo had me  confused, because I (wrongly)  thought it was a 1960s Mini Clubman. 

[Seaside jambo]

On 03/04/2024 at 11:04, Daktari said:

There's a bit of truth and a bit of fabrication in this one. From a fact checking website - 

 

The 1918 photo appears not to be real but to have been constructed from the first image to reflect the real casualties suffered by one of the battalions. 

A copy of the original 1914 photograph appears to have been displayed in Kildonan Museum on the Isle of South Uist in the Outer Hebrides as recently as 2015. 

The caption reads:

“This photograph of 27 officers and 1,000 men of the 1st Battalion 79th Queen’s Own Cameron Highlanders was taken at Edinburgh Castle prior to their departure for France on 12 August 1914. They landed in France on 14 August.

“The 1st Camerons sustained heavy losses in the early months of the war with the result that by Christmas 1914, all but one officer and 27 men were killed or wounded of the 27 officers and 1,000 men whose tartans had swung down the Lawnmarket from Edinburgh Castle on 12 August.”

It appears that this was the inspiration for the “1918 photo” which shows 28 men in total, presumably the one officer and 27 men mentioned in the caption at Kildonan Museum.

The reconstruction appears to also be displayed in the museum (you can see the bottom of it at the top of this photo). 

It would be incorrect to suggest that all but 28 men from this battalion died, as not all of those casualties suffered in 1914 may have been fatal. We also don’t know the fate of soldiers in the battalion after Christmas 1914. 

There are some clues which indicate that the “1918” photo is probably not real. For one, the shadows are inconsistent. While the “officer” at the front of the image has a shadow which stretches to the right of the image, none of the other soldiers have such prominent shadows.

Also the trees on the right of the image look remarkably similar. Over a period of four years, you would expect the leaves to have changed between the 1914 photo and the “1918 photo”.

Very interesting 

Cameron Highlanders were my dad’s regiment in ww2 he was in Burma, India, and eventually Japan 

[JWL]

On 03/04/2024 at 11:39, dannymack said:

 

 

 

That's the Old Burdiehouse Inn, then it changed to The Bird in Hand then finally Old Bordeaux. 

 

Visited that establishment many a time in the passing, further up the road was The Straiton Inn, scene of a many good old Sunday session. 

 

 

It's not on your list, but I vaguely remember ending up in a pub called Jolly Farmer after a Xmas piss up in the late eighties. I thought it was in or around the Liberton area.

[dannymack]

1 minute ago, JWL said:

 

It's not on your list, but I vaguely remember ending up in a pub called Jolly Farmer after a Xmas piss up in the late eighties. I thought it was in or around the Liberton area.

 

The Jolly Farmer was down at Little France just off the Old Dalkeith Road and right next to the High Flats at Craigour. 

 

Decent pub but just like with any scheme pub there was the usual element you had to watch out for, I knew a few Hearts lads that drank in there also up on the Gilmerton Rd, The Robins Nest  don't know if the pubs are still there or been renamed. 

[JWL]

9 minutes ago, dannymack said:

 

The Jolly Farmer was down at Little France just off the Old Dalkeith Road and right next to the High Flats at Craigour. 

 

Decent pub but just like with any scheme pub there was the usual element you had to watch out for, I knew a few Hearts lads that drank in there also up on the Gilmerton Rd, The Robins Nest  don't know if the pubs are still there or been renamed. 

 

Kind off makes sense as I just remember it being in the middle of nowhere and I was struggling to get a bus home. Stayed in Leith at the time and still no recollection of getting home. Any pics anyone? Might refresh my addled memory.

Edited April 4 by JWL

[Stuart Lyon]

34 minutes ago, JWL said:

 

Kind off makes sense as I just remember it being in the middle of nowhere and I was struggling to get a bus home. Stayed in Leith at the time and still no recollection of getting home. Any pics anyone? Might refresh my addled memory.

 Royal/Jolly Farmer Closed and converted to other uses 

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This pub is long-term closed.

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Edited April 4 by Stuart Lyon

[Footballfirst]

42 minutes ago, JWL said:

 

Kind off makes sense as I just remember it being in the middle of nowhere and I was struggling to get a bus home. Stayed in Leith at the time and still no recollection of getting home. Any pics anyone? Might refresh my addled memory.

 

Just the one person drinking and driving by the looks of it. Photo from 1976.

 

The comment with the image was:

The Jolly Farmer, in Craigour. I grew up near here. Never been in. I think it's a bookies now. 'Go in for laughs, come out in stitches,' they used to say.

 

Edited April 4 by Footballfirst

[Footballfirst]

Hibs supporters dispersing after their cup winning parade in 1902.

 

[Footballfirst]

 

A bit earlier and along the road

Edited April 4 by Footballfirst