Edinburgh History

[John Findlay]

1 hour ago, **** the SPFL said:

Tivoli 

👍

[Fxxx the SPFL]

5 hours ago, Radio Ga Ga said:

Think this one might have been up before, but good photo showing the huge changes in the area.

Game on at Tynie 

[Fxxx the SPFL]

6 hours ago, EIEIO said:

Thanks I worked in the Forestry Commission from 1986 can't recall it. Mind you I was in The Struan Hotel or Winston's more often than the Corrie though.

Sylvan House 

[Daktari]

Taken from the North Bridge. in the late 1850s.  The buildings on the left edge are the rear of Shakespeare Square which had a front onto Princes Street and these rear walls overlooked what was a developing rail station. These buildings were demolished in 1860 to make way for the new GPO building.

The dominant building with the slight curve, was the Red Lion Hotel and the one with the neat round windows was also a hotel and 'tavern'. The low building is a rail yard shed and would have overlooked Lower Calton, which are the small houses below the rock face.

[Morgan]

On 27/03/2024 at 12:17, Stuart Lyon said:

Pubic Triangle?

Burke and Hare to the left, The Western Bar to the right.

 

 

[Finbar Saunders]

1 hour ago, Morgan said:

Burke and Hare to the left, The Western Bar to the right.

 

 

 

More than 2 to a triangle Morgan, there was another by the Burke and Hare. No idea what its called now but 20 odd years ago it was the Baron Baillie but it was called summit else before that but the name escapes me now. No doubt Mr Lyons knows.

[Stuart Lyon]

No1 Show Bar - Baby Dolls

 

Previous names

 

Kenmore The

Main Point Bar

Baron Bailey The

Hooters

Cuckoo's Nest

Bridies

Lafferty's

Tramps

Lochiel Bar

[Morgan]

13 hours ago, Doctor FinnBarr said:

 

More than 2 to a triangle Morgan, there was another by the Burke and Hare. No idea what its called now but 20 odd years ago it was the Baron Baillie but it was called summit else before that but the name escapes me now. No doubt Mr Lyons knows.

Right enough, Finn.

 

The name I recall the third one being was Bridies.

[periodictabledancer]

17 hours ago, Daktari said:

Taken from the North Bridge. in the late 1850s.  The buildings on the left edge are the rear of Shakespeare Square which had a front onto Princes Street and these rear walls overlooked what was a developing rail station. These buildings were demolished in 1860 to make way for the new GPO building.

The dominant building with the slight curve, was the Red Lion Hotel and the one with the neat round windows was also a hotel and 'tavern'. The low building is a rail yard shed and would have overlooked Lower Calton, which are the small houses below the rock face.

That's an absolute stunner. Never seen it before in such detail. 

[davemclaren]

1 hour ago, Morgan said:

Right enough, Finn.

 

The name I recall the third one being was Bridies.

That's the name I remember as well 

[Morgan]

14 minutes ago, davemclaren said:

That's the name I remember as well 

Mind that day when Lucy took off her.....?

 

 

 

And then hid a bottle of Export.

 

[davemclaren]

4 minutes ago, Morgan said:

Mind that day when Lucy took off her.....?

 

 

 

And then hid a bottle of Export.

 

I was more a mid 70s Tony's Cellar Bar geezer - Miss Cindy. 🥸

[Radio Ga Ga]

Murdoch Terrace (closed 1982)

[Tazio]

3 minutes ago, Radio Ga Ga said:

Murdoch Terrace (closed 1982)

Nice wee Fiat X19. 

[Finbar Saunders]

6 hours ago, Morgan said:

Right enough, Finn.

 

The name I recall the third one being was Bridies.

 

Thats the name, just couldn't remember it.

[JudyJudyJudy]

It was barbaric 1982,

 

[Polonia Gorgie]

Wester Hailes Education Centre was the first school in Scotland to not use corporal punishment 

[Fxxx the SPFL]

8 hours ago, Morgan said:

Right enough, Finn.

 

The name I recall the third one being was Bridies.

Western Saloon Bar or Blue Blazer

[Tazio]

There used to be a tiny go-go bar on Bread Street at the Lothian Road end. I think it might be a tattoo shop now. One of the smallest pubs I’ve ever been in and they had dancers. 

Edited April 2, 2024 by Tazio

[Footballfirst]

34 minutes ago, Tazio said:

There used to be a tiny go-go bar on Bread Street at the Lothian Road end. I think it might be a tattoo shop now. One of the smallest pubs I’ve ever been in and they had dancers. 

The Traveller's Rest , later renamed Tippler's would fit the bill.

[Tazio]

1 minute ago, Footballfirst said:

The Traveller's Rest , later renamed Tippler's would fit the bill.

Tippler’s. That’s the one. Right at the end of the little lane that leads through to Grindlay Street. 

[dannymack]

On 04/07/2018 at 22:49, Maroon Sailor said:

Straiton Road

 

 

 

The bus is on tbe Burdiehouse Road Dual Carriageway with Burdiehouse Terrace in the background. 

Old Burdiehouse Road runs behind the photographers position with the subway just visible at the bottom of the picture 👍

[Tazio]

1 minute ago, dannymack said:

 

The bus is on tbe Burdiehouse Road Dual Carriageway with Burdiehouse Terrace in the background. 

Old Burdiehouse Road runs behind the photographers position with the subway just visible at the bottom of the picture 👍

One of the interesting things about this thread is seeing bits of Edinburgh I know nothing about. I don’t think I’ve even driven through Burdiehouse and certainly couldn’t even take someone there as I’m not sure where it is apart from its south. However I could go anywhere in north Edinburgh and Leith no problem. 

[dannymack]

7 minutes ago, Tazio said:

One of the interesting things about this thread is seeing bits of Edinburgh I know nothing about. I don’t think I’ve even driven through Burdiehouse and certainly couldn’t even take someone there as I’m not sure where it is apart from its south. However I could go anywhere in north Edinburgh and Leith no problem. 

 

Not been to IKEA ?

[Tazio]

Just now, dannymack said:

 

Not been to IKEA ?

Round the bypass to get there. And only cause the wife was driving, I only went if I was allowed a Mr Whippy and a bag of Daim sweets. 

[weegranty]

35 minutes ago, dannymack said:

 

The bus is on tbe Burdiehouse Road Dual Carriageway with Burdiehouse Terrace in the background. 

Old Burdiehouse Road runs behind the photographers position with the subway just visible at the bottom of the picture 👍

There was a Chinese takeaway further down on the left and a boozer behind. I went to Burdiehouse primary in the early 80s.

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[Seymour M Hersh]

2 hours ago, Sydney said:

 

Raeburn Place from the flats above Henry"s

[Seymour M Hersh]

2 hours ago, Sydney said:

 

Hamilton Place looking at what is now the outdoor bit of Pizza Xpress and flats.

[Seymour M Hersh]

2 hours ago, Sydney said:

 

Raeburn Place.

[Seymour M Hersh]

On 27/03/2024 at 10:40, EIEIO said:

Don't remember "the store" being next to the Corrie Inn, when did it shut?

 

It turned into a Gym/Martial arts type place. Used to go to a Jackie Brown's class there on a Wednesday evening.

[dannymack]

7 hours ago, Tazio said:

Round the bypass to get there. And only cause the wife was driving, I only went if I was allowed a Mr Whippy and a bag of Daim sweets. 

 

LOL 😆   quite rightly too.

 

The A701 Is one of the main artery roads in and out of Edinburgh and depending on where you are In the City this road would take you via Burdiehouse if you were going to IKEA (straiton) but I suppose the by-pass is there for a reason. 

[dannymack]

7 hours ago, weegranty said:

There was a Chinese takeaway further down on the left and a boozer behind. I went to Burdiehouse primary in the early 80s.

 

Harmony 😉 

 

Can't think of any pub behind it though BUT I do know of The Burdiehouse Inn further up the Dual Carriageway on the right side opposite the Limekilns (Old Burdiehouse). 

[Daktari]

9 hours ago, dannymack said:

 

The bus is on tbe Burdiehouse Road Dual Carriageway with Burdiehouse Terrace in the background. 

Old Burdiehouse Road runs behind the photographers position with the subway just visible at the bottom of the picture 👍

Non-photographic for a change, but I like the history of place names in Edinburgh too.

 

Burdiehouse is widely accepted to be a corruption of Bordeaux House, either from immigrant workers living there, retainers of Mary Queen of Scots or Mary's wine store depending on which you believe to be most accurate. Similarly 'Little France' has the same sorts of connections, going back hundreds of years but still existing. 

 

I was always told that Liberton was derived from 'Leper Town' as there was a leper colony there, but it's also said that it is from old English for 'barley farm on a hill'. 

[Footballfirst]

Burdiehouse School

 

[Footballfirst]

16 minutes ago, Daktari said:

Non-photographic for a change, but I like the history of place names in Edinburgh too.

 

Burdiehouse is widely accepted to be a corruption of Bordeaux House, either from immigrant workers living there, retainers of Mary Queen of Scots or Mary's wine store depending on which you believe to be most accurate. Similarly 'Little France' has the same sorts of connections, going back hundreds of years but still existing. 

 

I was always told that Liberton was derived from 'Leper Town' as there was a leper colony there, but it's also said that it is from old English for 'barley farm on a hill'. 

This link gives some history behind a few streets and areas in Edinburgh, including Burdiehouse.

 

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1210556820185604101.html

Edited April 3, 2024 by Footballfirst

[Dirty Deeds]

Cameron Highlanders in 1914 v 1918

From https://x.com/fasc1nate/status/1775358546403893597?s=20

Edited April 3, 2024 by Dirty Deeds

[Daktari]

26 minutes ago, Dirty Deeds said:

Cameron Highlanders in 1914 v 1918

From https://x.com/fasc1nate/status/1775358546403893597?s=20

There's a bit of truth and a bit of fabrication in this one. From a fact checking website - 

 

The 1918 photo appears not to be real but to have been constructed from the first image to reflect the real casualties suffered by one of the battalions. 

A copy of the original 1914 photograph appears to have been displayed in Kildonan Museum on the Isle of South Uist in the Outer Hebrides as recently as 2015. 

The caption reads:

“This photograph of 27 officers and 1,000 men of the 1st Battalion 79th Queen’s Own Cameron Highlanders was taken at Edinburgh Castle prior to their departure for France on 12 August 1914. They landed in France on 14 August.

“The 1st Camerons sustained heavy losses in the early months of the war with the result that by Christmas 1914, all but one officer and 27 men were killed or wounded of the 27 officers and 1,000 men whose tartans had swung down the Lawnmarket from Edinburgh Castle on 12 August.”

It appears that this was the inspiration for the “1918 photo” which shows 28 men in total, presumably the one officer and 27 men mentioned in the caption at Kildonan Museum.

The reconstruction appears to also be displayed in the museum (you can see the bottom of it at the top of this photo). 

It would be incorrect to suggest that all but 28 men from this battalion died, as not all of those casualties suffered in 1914 may have been fatal. We also don’t know the fate of soldiers in the battalion after Christmas 1914. 

There are some clues which indicate that the “1918” photo is probably not real. For one, the shadows are inconsistent. While the “officer” at the front of the image has a shadow which stretches to the right of the image, none of the other soldiers have such prominent shadows.

Also the trees on the right of the image look remarkably similar. Over a period of four years, you would expect the leaves to have changed between the 1914 photo and the “1918 photo”.

[Stuart Lyon]

10 hours ago, weegranty said:

There was a Chinese takeaway further down on the left and a boozer behind. I went to Burdiehouse primary in the early 80s.

Would that wee boozer have been the

[weegranty]

2 hours ago, dannymack said:

 

Harmony 😉 

 

Can't think of any pub behind it though BUT I do know of The Burdiehouse Inn further up the Dual Carriageway on the right side opposite the Limekilns (Old Burdiehouse). 

The pub was behind the camera shot and was the one you mentioned. 

[dannymack]

10 hours ago, weegranty said:

There was a Chinese takeaway further down on the left and a boozer behind. I went to Burdiehouse primary in the early 80s.

 

2 hours ago, dannymack said:

 

Harmony 😉 

 

Can't think of any pub behind it though BUT I do know of The Burdiehouse Inn further up the Dual Carriageway on the right side opposite the Limekilns (Old Burdiehouse). 

 

22 minutes ago, Stuart Lyon said:

Would that wee boozer have been the

 

That's the Old Burdiehouse Inn, then it changed to The Bird in Hand then finally Old Bordeaux. 

 

Visited that establishment many a time in the passing, further up the road was The Straiton Inn, scene of a many good old Sunday session. 

 

[Radio Ga Ga]

3 hours ago, Footballfirst said:

Burdiehouse School

 

Started my school days there in 1968, grey shorts, white shirt with a red and white striped tie, black blazer and a black cap. I'm getting old 😞 

[I P Knightley]

4 hours ago, Daktari said:

Non-photographic for a change, but I like the history of place names in Edinburgh too.

 

Burdiehouse is widely accepted to be a corruption of Bordeaux House, either from immigrant workers living there, retainers of Mary Queen of Scots or Mary's wine store depending on which you believe to be most accurate. Similarly 'Little France' has the same sorts of connections, going back hundreds of years but still existing. 

 

I was always told that Liberton was derived from 'Leper Town' as there was a leper colony there, but it's also said that it is from old English for 'barley farm on a hill'. 

I'm glad to learn that as my brother moved to Liberton a couple of years ago and I now know to mention it when I see him at the weekend!

[periodictabledancer]

4 hours ago, Footballfirst said:

This link gives some history behind a few streets and areas in Edinburgh, including Burdiehouse.

 

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1210556820185604101.html

I enjoyed reading about the Goldenacre area : when I was a teenager in the 70s my then mate's gran was well into her 90s and although she had whar we now know as dementia , was able to describle the area in some detail as it was back in the 1890s, as it was when she was a child. 

 

When I think about it now it really hits me. 

[dannymack]

1 hour ago, Radio Ga Ga said:

Started my school days there in 1968, grey shorts, white shirt with a red and white striped tie, black blazer and a black cap. I'm getting old 😞 

Just before your time.